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2012-08-03 10:10:20 AM  

Thunderpipes: Derp derp derp


i950.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-03 10:10:32 AM  

Thunderpipes: The city of Boston, I believe said they would deny Chick-Fil-A permits because of the CEO's statement. That is illegal, and simply bad. That goes beyond griping and is real discrimination. You can't do that. Liberals want anyone they disagree with silenced and punished. That goes against every free speech principle there is.


As usual, you are wrong. Companies don't enjoy the rights bestowed on the individual by the Bill of Rights. Is the Mayor of Boston trying to prevent Dan Cathy from making anti-gay statements? No? Didn't think so.
 
2012-08-03 10:10:47 AM  

Tatterdemalian: VulpesVulpes: Hey, can you point out the "Typical Liberals" in this thread who think there shouldn't be consequences? thx.

Oh, and include "think they should be able to set arbitrary restrictions, like insisting that quotes from yesterday's thread shouldn't count because this is a completely different thread, while everyone else's words should be saved in perpetuity and quote-mined forever" on that list of hypocritical things liberals do.


Still waiting for that list!
 
2012-08-03 10:11:23 AM  
Matching hate with hate just makes more hate for everyone.

Douchebag executive, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Smug bag of shiat.
 
2012-08-03 10:11:39 AM  

The Homer Tax: senseofmea: Why is it if someone disagrees with gay marriage it's automatically considered hate? Too many people are too narrow minded.

When you think that someone you don't like deserves fewer rights than you, I would say you hate them. What would you call it?

"Look, all I'm saying is thy homosexuals are second-class citizens whose unions shouldn't have equal protection under the law to that of heterosexual unions...but it's not like I *hate* them or anythIng."


I'd like to hear your views on smokers' rights. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?
 
2012-08-03 10:12:02 AM  

TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.


Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.
 
2012-08-03 10:12:33 AM  
What a douchecanoe. This term can be applied to this guy AND Dan Cathy. However, people who are genuinely surprised that a company well-known for being founded by a fundie is--gasp!--anti-gay are stupid. I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A a lot but every once in a while I'll get a sandwich. I've always known the corporate stance but the sandwiches are tasty, the stores are immaculate and the staff is friendly and helpful. I'm sorry that their CEO is an out-of-touch asshat but I'm sure many are well aware of that.

Dammit, now I want Chick-Fil-A. This twinges my slightly left-leaning conscience, but ... tasty fried chicken sandwich, I would like one, please.
 
2012-08-03 10:12:50 AM  
He's an executive. To him, berating underlings IS solving the problem.
 
2012-08-03 10:13:10 AM  

birchman: senseofmea: Why is it if someone disagrees with gay marriage it's automatically considered hate? Too many people are too narrow minded.

Can you please explain to this narrow-minded person why you think it's OK to discriminate against them? Difficulty: without imposing your religious beliefs on other people, remember they have freedom of religion too.


He's not arguing about whether it's OK. He's arguing that opposition to gay marriage is not necessarily motivated by hate.
 
2012-08-03 10:13:17 AM  

NightOwl2255: Thunderpipes: The city of Boston, I believe said they would deny Chick-Fil-A permits because of the CEO's statement. That is illegal, and simply bad. That goes beyond griping and is real discrimination. You can't do that. Liberals want anyone they disagree with silenced and punished. That goes against every free speech principle there is.

As usual, you are wrong. Companies don't enjoy the rights bestowed on the individual by the Bill of Rights. Is the Mayor of Boston trying to prevent Dan Cathy from making anti-gay statements? No? Didn't think so.


Wanna bet? Companies are entitled to equal treatment under the law. The ACLU stepped in and basically told Boston they were up the creek without a paddle if they went through with that. Boston backed down. Would you be happy if an assless chaps store was not allowed to open in Provincetown?
 
2012-08-03 10:13:24 AM  
Thunderpipes: People here, of course, all miss the real argument.

The city of Boston, I believe said they would deny Chick-Fil-A permits because of the CEO's statement. That is illegal, and simply bad. That goes beyond griping and is real discrimination. You can't do that. Liberals want anyone they disagree with silenced and punished. That goes against every free speech principle there is.
.


It is illegal and a violation of federal civil rights laws for the Gauleiter of Boston to deny a legal and legitimate business to operate on basis of the owners constitutionally protected free speech and/or religious beliefs. He can't legally do it any more than the mayor of Murfreesboro could legally block the mosque
 
2012-08-03 10:14:53 AM  

Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.

Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.


So you DO feel that homosexuals should abstain from their immoral conduct.
 
2012-08-03 10:15:16 AM  

TOSViolation: I'd like to hear your views on smokers' rights. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?


Please provide a reasonable argument that (1) homosexual marriages affect heterosexual marriages in any way and (2) sexual orientation is a choice and your analogy might be something other than terrible.

/you's trollin
 
2012-08-03 10:15:20 AM  

TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right?


Is this how the last few Chick-fil-A threads made it to hundred's of posts?

www.cncgames.com
 
2012-08-03 10:16:18 AM  
saying you are not gay just sounds so gay
 
2012-08-03 10:17:09 AM  

Oldiron_79: Thunderpipes: People here, of course, all miss the real argument.

The city of Boston, I believe said they would deny Chick-Fil-A permits because of the CEO's statement. That is illegal, and simply bad. That goes beyond griping and is real discrimination. You can't do that. Liberals want anyone they disagree with silenced and punished. That goes against every free speech principle there is.
.

It is illegal and a violation of federal civil rights laws for the Gauleiter of Boston to deny a legal and legitimate business to operate on basis of the owners constitutionally protected free speech and/or religious beliefs. He can't legally do it any more than the mayor of Murfreesboro could legally block the mosque


Exactly. This is what really started all this, Boston said they would deny based upon CEO statements. Liberals are okay with this. That is wrong.
 
2012-08-03 10:17:13 AM  

Marisyana: What a douchecanoe. This term can be applied to this guy AND Dan Cathy.


Well, I'd agree that this guy is a douchecanoe. Cathy, however is more of a douchefrigate

Marisyana: Dammit, now I want Chick-Fil-A. This twinges my slightly left-leaning conscience, but ... tasty fried chicken sandwich, I would like one, please.


So just make your own: How to make a Chik-Fil-A sandwich at home
 
2012-08-03 10:17:22 AM  

TOSViolation: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.

Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.

So you DO feel that homosexuals should abstain from their immoral conduct.


Some religions find homosexuality immoral, some don't, some people interpret their religions a certain way and some people are atheists are agnostics. The bottom line is that homosexuality is not illegal as long as the 2+ people are consenting adults.
 
2012-08-03 10:17:40 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: A corporation with multiple subsidiaries might have a CFO for each of them. But I've never heard of a CFO for Marketing, Accounting, or any other functional line.


Most of the companies I have worked with will have one CFO and divisions will have a comptroller or treasurer. I've seen wholly owned subsidiary's have a CFO.
 
2012-08-03 10:18:49 AM  

NightOwl2255: As usual, you are wrong. Companies don't enjoy the rights bestowed on the individual by the Bill of Rights. Is the Mayor of Boston trying to prevent Dan Cathy from making anti-gay statements? No? Didn't think so.


This is a specious argument. If I were in a position as a government representative to damage your company economically for that post, that doesn't constitute an infringement? You asked "Is the Mayor of Boston trying to prevent Dan Cathy from making anti-gay statements?" The answer, of course, is yes. He is saying that Dan Cathy will pay economically for airing a point of view that the mayor doesn't agree with. The intent is to apply a prior restraint upon further statements.

I won't go along with government officials abusing the constitutional rights of citizens, just because I agree with the mayor on gay marriage.
 
2012-08-03 10:20:12 AM  

Bob16: Chik fil a has CLAIMED that the boycot against them is a big failure.

It's just a coincidence they have refused to release sales figures to prove the boycot was a failure.


They are not obligated to do so and it is good business not to. You don't want numbers floating out there that could cause any sort of problems with federal and state tax authorities. If you doubt there has not been a net positive effect, just drive by one. I did at 2 in the afternoon and the lot was full.

There is an interesting observation that can be made by observing CFA and Target...regardless of your stand on sexuality, if you give good service people will support you because you do business correctly. I am not coming to you for moral guidance. i am coming to you for waffle fries.
 
2012-08-03 10:20:54 AM  

Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.

Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.

So you DO feel that homosexuals should abstain from their immoral conduct.

Some religions find homosexuality immoral, some don't, some people interpret their religions a certain way and some people are atheists are agnostics. The bottom line is that homosexuality is not illegal as long as the 2+ people are consenting adults.


I don't think I'd bother attempting debate with someone who just got done equivocating homosexuality with pedophilia in the first place.
 
2012-08-03 10:21:53 AM  

ArkAngel: Lionel Mandrake: I cannot f*cking STAND people who biatch at cashiers, tellers, waiters, etc because of a policy decided by someone else., a thousand miles away, and a million miles up the pay scale.

I would have fired his ass, too.

This. Add to it that 85-90% of all Chick-fil-A restaurants are franchises (compared to McDonald's 65-70%). All franchisees can do is distance themselves as best they can from the CEO and send angry missives up the pipeline.

I hope this man enjoys the consequences of his free speech.


To add to that, the chick fil a in Chicago donates to gay causes. Doesn't mean I will eat there (I don't like their food), but at least they give $$ to good causes.
 
2012-08-03 10:23:07 AM  

SkunkWerks: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.

Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.

So you DO feel that homosexuals should abstain from their immoral conduct.

Some religions find homosexuality immoral, some don't, some people interpret their religions a certain way and some people are atheists are agnostics. The bottom line is that homosexuality is not illegal as long as the 2+ people are consenting adults.

I don't think I'd bother attempting debate with someone who just got done equivocating homosexuality with pedophilia in the first place.


I'm not debating for his sake. :)
 
2012-08-03 10:23:25 AM  

TOSViolation: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.

Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.

So you DO feel that homosexuals should abstain from their immoral conduct.


so what about the many heteros who abuse children of opposite genders? Is heterosexuality the cause of fathers raping their daughters or women teachers taking advantage of male students?
 
2012-08-03 10:24:27 AM  
***Instant Karma***

/What a stupid tool.
 
2012-08-03 10:24:48 AM  
I just...

I just cannot care about what he did.

He yelled a zoidberg like rant at a drive through worker. He didn't throw a cup of water at the employee, he didn't assault him. He didn't swear.

He told the worker he should be ashamed of working for a corporation that promotes assholery.

And then he drove away.

/Sticks and stones may break bones
//names never hurt.
 
2012-08-03 10:25:25 AM  

TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.


I've seen teething babies with a diaper full of crap crave less attention.

priyamahida.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-03 10:25:31 AM  

you have pee hands: TOSViolation: I'd like to hear your views on smokers' rights. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?

Please provide a reasonable argument that (1) homosexual marriages affect heterosexual marriages in any way and (2) sexual orientation is a choice and your analogy might be something other than terrible.

/you's trollin


The ban on gay marriage is more about protecting homosexuals from committing themselves to their own sinfulness than it is about protecting other marriages. Additionally, while sexual orientation may not be a choice, acting upon one's orientation is. We don't say about alcoholics that it's cruel to keep them from drinking because they're just wired that way.
 
2012-08-03 10:25:37 AM  

TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys


You do know that "being gay" and "being attracted to young boys" are two completely different things, don't you?

I'm going to go ahead and assume that you didn't, and this monumentally dumb thing you wrote was out of ignorance of that simple fact. Because the other explanation - that you knew, but went ahead and typed it anyway - that would indicate that you are a lying douchebag of colossal proportions, or simply a sad little troll.

but since I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, I'll just assume you were ignorant.
 
2012-08-03 10:25:52 AM  
only thing that decides where and if I eat fast food is if there is a coupon
 
2012-08-03 10:26:31 AM  

fn129: To add to that, the chick fil a in Chicago donates to gay causes. Doesn't mean I will eat there (I don't like their food), but at least they give $$ to good causes.


No, the franchisee donates some piddling amount and the franchise donates millions to "gay hunting lodges" where queermos are greased up and sent into the woods naked so that rich Christians can try and chase down and catch them.
 
2012-08-03 10:27:57 AM  

Lumpmoose: SkunkWerks: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: Lumpmoose: TOSViolation: You know Sandusky is gay, right? The gay community should be supporting him. He can't help that he's sexually attracted to young boys. He was just born that way. He shouldn't be held accountable for the CHOICES he made to ACT ON his urges.

Sandusky may have been born that way but his acts were still illegal because his victims couldn't consent. It was his responsibility to abstain, get help, chemically castrate himself, or do whatever else was necessary to keep his urges in check.

So you DO feel that homosexuals should abstain from their immoral conduct.

Some religions find homosexuality immoral, some don't, some people interpret their religions a certain way and some people are atheists are agnostics. The bottom line is that homosexuality is not illegal as long as the 2+ people are consenting adults.

I don't think I'd bother attempting debate with someone who just got done equivocating homosexuality with pedophilia in the first place.

I'm not debating for his sake. :)


I might debate him for his sake (sake is delightfully relaxing, I hears). I wouldn't bother arguing fine details with someone who just got the big picture hilariously wrong from the get-go. Seems kinda like polishing a turd here, no?

But hey, it's your dime, I won't stop ya. As for me, he just joined the Pink People.
 
2012-08-03 10:28:07 AM  
Just want to point out a few things:

1. Dan Cathy is not the CEO of Chick-Fil-A. His dad is chairman and CEO. Dan is the company's president and COO, which means he runs things, but can be overruled by Truett.

2. Chick-Fil-A's charitable foundation, the Winshare Foundation, gives token amounts to anti-gay "hate" groups ($1,000 each in 2010 to the pray-the-gay-away Exodus International and the generally hateful Family Research Council). They give hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to pro-hetero-marriage charities that spend the money on marriage counseling and couples retreats, and spend most of their budget on their own camps and foster homes. Chick-Fil-A also spends a lot of money on college scholarships for its young employees.

3. Chick-Fil-A is headquartered in Georgia, where MANY companies are run by homophobic douchebags, and they are way more progressive than most (f'rinstance, they have a policy of not discriminating against gays in hiring, which is not requred by state law in Georgia).

So, while Dan Cathy is a brainless douche, Chick-Fil-A on balance is not such a bad actor, considering.

/When you're a liberal in the South, you pick your enemies carefully, or you wind up hating just about everybody.
//That asshole deserved to be fired. Not so much for yelling at a fast-food employee for no good reason, but for being proud of it and posting it on Youtube.
 
2012-08-03 10:28:26 AM  
"And I'm totally heterosexual. Not a gay in me."

Methinks thou dost protest too much.
 
2012-08-03 10:28:54 AM  

indylaw: you have pee hands: TOSViolation: I'd like to hear your views on smokers' rights. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?

Please provide a reasonable argument that (1) homosexual marriages affect heterosexual marriages in any way and (2) sexual orientation is a choice and your analogy might be something other than terrible.

/you's trollin

The ban on gay marriage is more about protecting homosexuals from committing themselves to their own sinfulness than it is about protecting other marriages. Additionally, while sexual orientation may not be a choice, acting upon one's orientation is. We don't say about alcoholics that it's cruel to keep them from drinking because they're just wired that way.


This is the best response to "stop acting gay".

Bottom line:

When you tell a gay person to "resist" being gay, what you are really telling them - what you really mean - is for them to be celibate.

What you are truly and actually saying is that you want them to condemn themselves to a life devoid of the kind of enduring, romantic, partner-to-partner love that all people, Christians included, understand as just about the best part of being alive.

Be alone, you're demanding. Live alone. Don't hold anyone's hand. Don't snuggle on your couch with anyone. Don't cuddle up with anyone at night before you fall asleep. Don't have anyone to chat with over coffee in the morning.

Do not bind your life to that of another. Live your whole life without knowing that joy, that sharing, that peace.

Just say "no" to love.

Be alone. Live alone. Die alone.

The "sinful temptation" that Christians are forever urging LGBT people to resist is love.

Being, of course, the one thing Jesus was most clear about wanting his followers to extend to others.
 
2012-08-03 10:29:21 AM  

SlothB77: no one else find that his name is Adam Smith amusing?


No more wealth in his nation?

biatch-slapped by the Invisible Hand?

Nah, it just isn't working.
 
2012-08-03 10:30:05 AM  

indylaw: protecting homosexuals from committing themselves to their own sinfulness


Only mortal sins cannot be forgiven. Homosexuality is a venal sin at best, considering that it's not in the 10 commandments or anything. Unless you count "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors ass" which was really talking about a donkey and coveting things you don't have.

Also, you should protect the children of your pedophile churches first, who are raping children. Then you worry about the homosexual community.
 
2012-08-03 10:30:12 AM  

NightOwl2255: Thunderpipes: The city of Boston, I believe said they would deny Chick-Fil-A permits because of the CEO's statement. That is illegal, and simply bad. That goes beyond griping and is real discrimination. You can't do that. Liberals want anyone they disagree with silenced and punished. That goes against every free speech principle there is.

As usual, you are wrong. Companies don't enjoy the rights bestowed on the individual by the Bill of Rights. Is the Mayor of Boston trying to prevent Dan Cathy from making anti-gay statements? No? Didn't think so.


The Supreme Court disagrees with you. In its view, corporations are simply groups of persons, and enjoy many of the rights accorded to individual persons.

There's another way to look at it. Boston's mayor and Chicago's alderman don't really want to punish Chick-Fil-A for its opinion; as an artificial legal construct, a corporation lacks the sentience required to form an opinion. They want to punish Dan Cathy for his opinion.
 
2012-08-03 10:30:45 AM  

bbcard1: If you doubt there has not been a net positive effect, just drive by one. I did at 2 in the afternoon and the lot was full.


The test is not whether they say a one or two day bump because right-wingers got behind a "Chick-fil-A Appreciation" day to piss off liberals. The test is how their business does over the next year versus sales a year ago. I would not be surprised to see a modest fall in sales figures, because while they got a temporary bump from teavangelicals (many of whom loved Chick-fil-A to begin with), they've definitely lost some customer loyalty among moderates and liberals.

Their brand figures don't lie, and they show that the overall perception of the brand has been badly damaged. The smug, sneering patronage by right-wingers isn't going to help Chick-fil-A among non-evangelicals; it can only hurt, as it increasingly aligns the brand with one party or political movement.
 
2012-08-03 10:31:46 AM  

fluffy2097: indylaw: protecting homosexuals from committing themselves to their own sinfulness

Only mortal sins cannot be forgiven. Homosexuality is a venal sin at best, considering that it's not in the 10 commandments or anything. Unless you count "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors ass" which was really talking about a donkey and coveting things you don't have.

Also, you should protect the children of your pedophile churches first, who are raping children. Then you worry about the homosexual community.


I'm not a Catholic.
 
2012-08-03 10:33:18 AM  

mbillips: Just want to point out a few things:

1. Dan Cathy is not the CEO of Chick-Fil-A. His dad is chairman and CEO. Dan is the company's president and COO, which means he runs things, but can be overruled by Truett.

2. Chick-Fil-A's charitable foundation, the Winshare Foundation, gives token amounts to anti-gay "hate" groups ($1,000 each in 2010 to the pray-the-gay-away Exodus International and the generally hateful Family Research Council). They give hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to pro-hetero-marriage charities that spend the money on marriage counseling and couples retreats, and spend most of their budget on their own camps and foster homes. Chick-Fil-A also spends a lot of money on college scholarships for its young employees.

3. Chick-Fil-A is headquartered in Georgia, where MANY companies are run by homophobic douchebags, and they are way more progressive than most (f'rinstance, they have a policy of not discriminating against gays in hiring, which is not requred by state law in Georgia).

So, while Dan Cathy is a brainless douche, Chick-Fil-A on balance is not such a bad actor, considering.

/When you're a liberal in the South, you pick your enemies carefully, or you wind up hating just about everybody.
//That asshole deserved to be fired. Not so much for yelling at a fast-food employee for no good reason, but for being proud of it and posting it on Youtube.


Before you start an argument, make sure your only and primary source isn't an opinion blog worthy of LiveJournal.

/You cannot cite opinion pieces (BLOGS) as evidence. Present me with a financial breakdown of who they donated to if you want me to believe you shiat.
 
2012-08-03 10:34:57 AM  

indylaw: I'm not a Catholic.


I don't doubt that. You sound like a damn fool instead. No humility.
 
2012-08-03 10:36:14 AM  

indylaw: The ban on gay marriage is more about protecting homosexuals from committing themselves to their own sinfulness than it is about protecting other marriages.


That's both hilariously condescending and a violation of separation of church and state. It's also not the most commonly used argument, which is some malarkey about "sanctity of marriage" and "protecting the traditional family".

Additionally, while sexual orientation may not be a choice, acting upon one's orientation is. We don't say about alcoholics that it's cruel to keep them from drinking because they're just wired that way.

Ideologically, this is still an attempt to legislate old testament christian morality. From a practical standpoint, it's somewhat akin to teaching abstinence except for a person's entire life rather than just up until marriage.
 
2012-08-03 10:36:47 AM  

you have pee hands: TOSViolation: I'd like to hear your views on smokers' rights. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?

Please provide a reasonable argument that (1) homosexual marriages affect heterosexual marriages in any way and (2) sexual orientation is a choice and your analogy might be something other than terrible.

/you's trollin


Whenever you've lost a debate and realize you've failed, the only thing left is to call the winner a troll.
 
2012-08-03 10:37:35 AM  

mbillips: 2. Chick-Fil-A's charitable foundation, the Winshare Foundation, gives token amounts to anti-gay "hate" groups ($1,000 each in 2010 to the pray-the-gay-away Exodus International and the generally hateful Family Research Council). They give hundreds of thousands of dollars each year to pro-hetero-marriage charities that spend the money on marriage counseling and couples retreats, and spend most of their budget on their own camps and foster homes. Chick-Fil-A also spends a lot of money on college scholarships for its young employees.


I'm not sure how this helps the case any (assuming it's true)

If the offending amounts are so small, then they're a small matter to stop payment on, right? I mean, when you have a small speck of dirt on an otherwise polished window, you clean the speck off. Unless of course that speck has sentimental value to you for some reason.

I utterly fail to understand arguments about things like this that basically boil down to "well, it's not such a big deal". That's a blade that cuts both ways.

Yet another sane way to handle this from a perspective of "scale" would be to, oh, I dunno, not make a big deal out of it yourself. Underlining it in an interview? Not so much consistent with the "not a big deal" point of view.

I don't feel sorry for Chick-Fil-A.
I don't feel sorry for Dan Cathy
I don't feel sorry for this douche at their drive-thru.
I do have some sympathy for the poor girl that got caught in the middle. Pretty sure she deals with enough entitled, self-righteous douchenozzles daily without adding this one to her score.
 
2012-08-03 10:37:35 AM  
senseofmea: Why is it if someone disagrees with gay marriage it's automatically considered hate? Too many people are too narrow minded.

Can you please explain to this narrow-minded person why you think it's OK to discriminate against them? Difficulty: without imposing your religious beliefs on other people, remember they have freedom of religion too.

Nobody said anything about discriminating. I just asked why it's considered hate if you disagree. If you think that disgreeing is the same as hate then you're just not too smart.
 
2012-08-03 10:37:50 AM  

SkunkWerks: Thunderpipes: People here, of course, all miss the real argument.

Boxers or Briefs.


Ginger or MaryAnne.
 
2012-08-03 10:38:10 AM  

Lumpmoose: When you tell a gay person to "resist" being gay, what you are really telling them - what you really mean - is for them to be celibate.

What you are truly and actually saying is that you want them to condemn themselves to a life devoid of the kind of enduring, romantic, partner-to-partner love that all people, Christians included, understand as just about the best part of being alive.

Be alone, you're demanding. Live alone. Don't hold anyone's hand. Don't snuggle on your couch with anyone. Don't cuddle up with anyone at night before you fall asleep. Don't have anyone to chat with over coffee in the morning.

Do not bind your life to that of another. Live your whole life without knowing that joy, that sharing, that peace.

Just say "no" to love.

Be alone. Live alone. Die alone.

The "sinful temptation" that Christians are forever urging LGBT people to resist is love.

Being, of course, the one thing Jesus was most clear about wanting his followers to extend to others.


Playing "devil's" advocate:

You're equating love with sex. At least under the Christian scheme, love is not about sex, nor is sex considered necessary for the full enjoyment of life in Christ. Paul endorses marriage only as a last resort, for couples that can't help themselves from having sex, so they can at least have some semblance of order and respectability around it.

Not having sex doesn't mean being alone. Ask monks or nuns, or the millions of secular people who just don't feel any sexual attraction at all (asexuals). You make it sound as if having someone else handle your genitals is the sum total of human experience.
 
2012-08-03 10:39:41 AM  

Lumpmoose: indylaw: you have pee hands: TOSViolation: I'd like to hear your views on smokers' rights. Do you have a blog I can subscribe to?

Please provide a reasonable argument that (1) homosexual marriages affect heterosexual marriages in any way and (2) sexual orientation is a choice and your analogy might be something other than terrible.

/you's trollin

The ban on gay marriage is more about protecting homosexuals from committing themselves to their own sinfulness than it is about protecting other marriages. Additionally, while sexual orientation may not be a choice, acting upon one's orientation is. We don't say about alcoholics that it's cruel to keep them from drinking because they're just wired that way.

This is the best response to "stop acting gay".

Bottom line:

When you tell a gay person to "resist" being gay, what you are really telling them - what you really mean - is for them to be celibate.

What you are truly and actually saying is that you want them to condemn themselves to a life devoid of the kind of enduring, romantic, partner-to-partner love that all people, Christians included, understand as just about the best part of being alive.

Be alone, you're demanding. Live alone. Don't hold anyone's hand. Don't snuggle on your couch with anyone. Don't cuddle up with anyone at night before you fall asleep. Don't have anyone to chat with over coffee in the morning.

Do not bind your life to that of another. Live your whole life without knowing that joy, that sharing, that peace.

Just say "no" to love.

Be alone. Live alone. Die alone.

The "sinful temptation" that Christians are forever urging LGBT people to resist is love.

Being, of course, the one thing Jesus was most clear about wanting his followers to extend to others.


You should give that speech at a NAMBLA meeting. You'd get a standing ovation.
 
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