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(News.com.au)   The waiting is the hardest part... especially if you die after waiting four hours in an ambulance outside the hospital   (news.com.au) divider line 103
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2012-08-02 09:02:56 PM  
THANKS, FARTB0NG0CARE!
 
2012-08-02 10:11:23 PM  
Then you're doing something wrong
 
2012-08-02 10:12:12 PM  
[reads article]

Oh yeah, someone is doing something very wrong.
 
2012-08-02 10:18:54 PM  

gimmegimme: THANKS, FARTB0NG0CARE!


They have Farbongocare in Australia?... hunh.

/I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.
 
2012-08-02 10:25:56 PM  

sno man: gimmegimme: THANKS, FARTB0NG0CARE!

They have Farbongocare in Australia?... hunh.

/I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.


WHAT>? tHAT is the whole point; this article shows they have FartB0NGocare in Europe and now they want it here and we're going to have to wait for 4 hrs outside the gov't hospital.
 
2012-08-02 10:34:17 PM  
Both it is then.
You seem interested enough and smart enough to actually understand the difference between the various models of socialized medicine throughout the rest of the first world, and a good chunk of the second, to what you have in America. And yet here we are.
 
2012-08-02 10:39:03 PM  
What the hell is going on in Australia that they have ambulances double-parked outside?!?! They didn't have that much trouble at King/Drew Medical Center during the LA Riots!
 
2012-08-02 10:40:22 PM  
Healthcare isn't fast food. Stop your biatching.
 
2012-08-02 10:40:35 PM  
Socialists!
 
2012-08-02 10:41:55 PM  
That should be an interesting lawsuit.
 
2012-08-02 10:44:07 PM  
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-08-02 10:45:03 PM  
The article says they are going to stop sending ambulances elsewhere when a hospital is overtaxed. How is this going to help? How could making everybody wait be better than triaging patients, accepting the critical, and sending those who can wait elsewhere when your hospital is full?

If my plane crashes when approaching Kingsford Smith airport, I don't want to wait six hours to be seen when all the other hospitals in Sydney are well below capacity!
 
2012-08-02 10:45:37 PM  

gimmegimme: sno man: gimmegimme: THANKS, FARTB0NG0CARE!

They have Farbongocare in Australia?... hunh.

/I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.

WHAT>? tHAT is the whole point; this article shows they have FartB0NGocare in Europe and now they want it here and we're going to have to wait for 4 hrs outside the gov't hospital.


You must be product of Ma0bama-scare. IT'S IN EUROPE YOU DOLT
 
2012-08-02 10:46:31 PM  
Obamacare, socialism, and so on
 
2012-08-02 10:46:56 PM  

sno man: /I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.


Sometimes, "Your sarcasm detector is broken" is just not strongly worded enough.
 
2012-08-02 10:48:42 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: gimmegimme:
WHAT>? tHAT is the whole point; this article shows they have FartB0NGocare in Europe and now they want it here and we're going to have to wait for 4 hrs outside the gov't hospital.

You must be product of Ma0bama-scare. IT'S IN EUROPE YOU DOLT


Oh wait, sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you were thinking of Australia.
 
2012-08-02 10:49:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: What the hell is going on in Australia that they have ambulances double-parked outside?!?! They didn't have that much trouble at King/Drew Medical Center during the LA Riots!


This seems similar to last week's (?) thread in Canada (IIRC) about the ambulance diverted when one hospital was full.

I actually learned a lot in that thread about emergency health care once the pro/con Obama politics tab trolls left the thread.
 
2012-08-02 10:49:59 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco: gimmegimme:
WHAT>? tHAT is the whole point; this article shows they have FartB0NGocare in Europe and now they want it here and we're going to have to wait for 4 hrs outside the gov't hospital.

You must be product of Ma0bama-scare. IT'S IN EUROPE YOU DOLT

Oh wait, sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you were thinking of Australia.


Fluorescent Testicle: sno man: /I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.

Sometimes, "Your sarcasm detector is broken" is just not strongly worded enough.


I was just surprised that sno man thought I was serious. Poe's Law all over the place.
 
2012-08-02 10:53:20 PM  

SquiggelyGrounders: Obamacare, socialism, and so on




legacy-cdn.smosh.com
 
2012-08-02 10:53:29 PM  
Just putting in a comment as there are many retards who will use this one event and extend it to be the picture of all that is healthcare-wise in Australia.

This is not that common an event and depends on the number of nearby hospitals. The Hospitals are generally very quick to respond and make sure urgent cases are actioned and if at capacity, the less urgent ones sent to other hospitals.

the Ambulance crew are usually savvy enough to know which hospital would be the best one to take a patient to. Recently when in an ambulance taking my mother to a hospital, the driver told me he was taking her to a particular hospital because they would be able to respond faster which turned out to be true.

Health care in Australia is very good and while it is easy to point fingers in such instances as this case, the majority of cases are dealt with very efficiently.
 
2012-08-02 10:54:38 PM  
Health Minister Lawrence Springborg

Awesome name, Springborg.
 
2012-08-02 10:56:33 PM  
How the fark does someone die in the back of an ambulance, while at a hospital for four hours?

How does that even happen?

For that matter, who the fark sets in the back of an ambulance for FOUR farkING HOURS outside an ER?

/deep breath, BronyMedic. Deep Breath.
 
2012-08-02 10:57:36 PM  

whatshisname: Health Minister Lawrence Springborg

Awesome name, Springborg.


That was Romney's old name, back when he was a bed shaking machine. Now he's been rebuilt.
 
2012-08-02 11:00:04 PM  
That reminds me.

Public policy produces many unintended consequences, and one celebrated example in the UK National Health Service is the policy that patients arriving at accident and emergency centres must be treated within a define period after entry. During busy periods this has led to patients being made to wait outside in the ambulances in which they arrived, leaving the long wait time problem unsolved but removing the ambulances from service.
 
2012-08-02 11:02:05 PM  

gimmegimme: God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco: gimmegimme:
WHAT>? tHAT is the whole point; this article shows they have FartB0NGocare in Europe and now they want it here and we're going to have to wait for 4 hrs outside the gov't hospital.

You must be product of Ma0bama-scare. IT'S IN EUROPE YOU DOLT

Oh wait, sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you were thinking of Australia.

Fluorescent Testicle: sno man: /I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.

Sometimes, "Your sarcasm detector is broken" is just not strongly worded enough.

I was just surprised that sno man thought I was serious. Poe's Law all over the place.


gimmegimme: God-is-a-Taco: God-is-a-Taco: gimmegimme:
WHAT>? tHAT is the whole point; this article shows they have FartB0NGocare in Europe and now they want it here and we're going to have to wait for 4 hrs outside the gov't hospital.

You must be product of Ma0bama-scare. IT'S IN EUROPE YOU DOLT

Oh wait, sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you were thinking of Australia.

Fluorescent Testicle: sno man: /I can't decide if idiot or asshole is a more appropriate label.

Sometimes, "Your sarcasm detector is broken" is just not strongly worded enough.

I was just surprised that sno man thought I was serious. Poe's Law all over the place.


FT was right, my sarcasm detector is off lately, and I'm just tired enough to start getting snippy...
so I'm out... I'll catch up in the morning.
 
2012-08-02 11:03:17 PM  
2nd World Problems!
 
2012-08-02 11:06:55 PM  
claudek: the Ambulance crew are usually savvy enough to know which hospital would be the best one to take a patient to. Recently when in an ambulance taking my mother to a hospital, the driver told me he was taking her to a particular hospital because they would be able to respond faster which turned out to be true.

The quickest off-load hospital is not the best, is the problem. There are eleven local hospitals in our area, but only three which provide comprehensive Cardiac, Neurological, and Surgical care, One which provides Level I Trauma Care, and one which provides Comprehensive Pediatric Care. The other six will get you into a room faster, but you will lose precious time getting to definitive care because they have to assess and treat you there first.
 
2012-08-02 11:08:35 PM  
It's Australia, the hospital was likely overflowing with people that had been savaged, envenomated, or raped by the local fauna.
 
2012-08-02 11:14:38 PM  

sno man: FT was right, my sarcasm detector is off lately, and I'm just tired enough to start getting snippy... so I'm out... I'll catch up in the morning.


No worries, it happens to us all. :) Honestly, it says more about the political climate than it says about you. :P

Anyway, back on topic: Nambour? Wow, I live less than an hour from there, and I've been to that hospital. That's embarrassing.
 
2012-08-02 11:17:27 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: It's Australia, the hospital was likely overflowing with people that had been savaged, envenomated, or raped by the local fauna.


I was going to hotlink to a rather graphic image warning about drop bears, but it's sorta graphic

Here's a G-rated version

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2012-08-02 11:17:48 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.google.com

Growing hair is the hardest part.
 
2012-08-02 11:19:25 PM  
It wasn't ramping. Ramping is diverting to a a less busy hospital yet Nambour is a regional hospital with no alternatives to redirect them to.

It was just neglect by leaving them at the door.

Ramping works pretty well in Brisbane itself though where there are alternate hospitals. Been a customer a few times myself.

\And I am not broke
\\It's great to be Australian

BTW, Nambour is a shiathole so it is real hard to retain good staff.
 
2012-08-02 11:20:47 PM  
Good job Australia, or should I say "ausgezeichnet"?
 
2012-08-02 11:22:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: What the hell is going on in Australia that they have ambulances double-parked outside?!?! They didn't have that much trouble at King/Drew Medical Center during the LA Riots!


Sometimes you pick up a few nicks and scratches trying to seperate the girls from glassing each other....
 
2012-08-02 11:23:21 PM  

Mensan: The article says they are going to stop sending ambulances elsewhere when a hospital is overtaxed. How is this going to help? How could making everybody wait be better than triaging patients, accepting the critical, and sending those who can wait elsewhere when your hospital is full?

If my plane crashes when approaching Kingsford Smith airport, I don't want to wait six hours to be seen when all the other hospitals in Sydney are well below capacity!


"Patient dies in hospital" isn't news. "Patient dies in ambulance after waiting 4 hours" is news.

Never mind that putting them in the hospital doesn't make treatment magically appear.

claudek: Just putting in a comment as there are many retards who will use this one event and extend it to be the picture of all that is healthcare-wise in Australia.

This is not that common an event and depends on the number of nearby hospitals. The Hospitals are generally very quick to respond and make sure urgent cases are actioned and if at capacity, the less urgent ones sent to other hospitals.


If it's common enough to have gotten a name ("ramping") it's way too common.
 
2012-08-02 11:23:36 PM  
On a lihter note,is ramping related to planking?
 
2012-08-02 11:25:22 PM  

zzrhardy: It wasn't ramping. Ramping is diverting to a a less busy hospital yet Nambour is a regional hospital with no alternatives to redirect them to.

It was just neglect by leaving them at the door.

Ramping works pretty well in Brisbane itself though where there are alternate hospitals. Been a customer a few times myself.


The question does have to be asked. In any place in the world, if there is only one hospital which is pretty much packed full of emergency cases, how would this type of thing be prevented from happening.

Only thought I had was having triage-type nurses to help make sure the priorities were correct for patient response. (In war-type scenarios, isn't this what happens?)
 
2012-08-02 11:30:09 PM  

claudek: Only thought I had was having triage-type nurses to help make sure the priorities were correct for patient response. (In war-type scenarios, isn't this what happens?)


Not sure if they are nurses or doctors but yes that happens. I thought it happened in all emergency wards?

I remember when I had my appendix ticking away they spent a day and a half reprepping me whilst the fresh donorcyclists and glassings were sent to the theatre first. I was monitored the whole time though, and as soon as things got bad they put me in ahead of the rest coming in.

Best outcome for everyone alround. These guys (usually) know their jobs really well.
 
2012-08-02 11:31:54 PM  

RaisingKane: That reminds me.

Public policy produces many unintended consequences, and one celebrated example in the UK National Health Service is the policy that patients arriving at accident and emergency centres must be treated within a define period after entry. During busy periods this has led to patients being made to wait outside in the ambulances in which they arrived, leaving the long wait time problem unsolved but removing the ambulances from service.


That reminds me. How much waiting time is involved at local hospitals, and how much ramping, too, is involved whenever there is a mass shooting in the US? I'm genuinely curious, since it seems to happen on a regular basis. Are all local hospitals in the US ready, or do they farm it out?. I mean, farming it out out would make more sense, logistically, although I can see why the American hospital would want to keep the business at home. I mean, think of the cash for a gunshot wound! And for mass gunshots? Well, I can't even express my greedy joy, I'm so giddy.
 
2012-08-02 11:33:53 PM  
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2012-08-02 11:36:18 PM  
onomatopoeon: That reminds me. How much waiting time is involved at local hospitals, and how much ramping, too, is involved whenever there is a mass shooting in the US? I'm genuinely curious, since it seems to happen on a regular basis. Are all local hospitals in the US ready, or do they farm it out?. I mean, farming it out out would make more sense, logistically, although I can see why the American hospital would want to keep the business at home. I mean, think of the cash for a gunshot wound! And for mass gunshots? Well, I can't even express my greedy joy, I'm so giddy.

"Ramping" is not a common practice in the United States. Technically, it violates the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, which requries the arriving patient be assessed by hosptial staff in a timely manner. In the event the ER is overcrowded, it's common practice to park the emergency crews in the entrance hallway while they wait with the patient, or to send the non-emergent patients to the waiting room from the triage desk.

Mass Shootings are not "regular" in the United States. You're describing a disaster/mass casualty situation where standard practices go out the window. In these cases, casualty collection and triage will occur at designated areas in the hospital, or in the parking lot. They will actually call in off-duty people, and non-emergency room staff will surge into the ER to support them and inflate their patient care capabilities.
 
2012-08-02 11:40:47 PM  

Knew it a long time ago...

www.ticketstoseats.com
 
2012-08-02 11:42:07 PM  
So did they charge him for the ride?
 
2012-08-02 11:43:17 PM  

Vigorous_Apathy: So did they charge him for the ride?


That's a good point. Maybe the guy was just waiting for the HMO to approve his treatment.
 
2012-08-02 11:43:39 PM  

whatshisname: Health Minister Lawrence Springborg

Awesome name, Springborg.


Resistance is *BOING!*
 
2012-08-02 11:50:07 PM  
"Mass Shootings are not "regular" in the United States."

LOL
 
2012-08-02 11:51:13 PM  

gimmegimme: Vigorous_Apathy: So did they charge him for the ride?

That's a good point. Maybe the guy was just waiting for the HMO to approve his treatment.


QLD - no charge to individual for ambulance trip.
There would be no charge to individual for the hospitalisation either.

It's why we pay taxes.

A lot of us have added private health insurance which gives us services on top of the public like choice of doctors, private rooms and cover for dental and glasses.
 
2012-08-02 11:53:24 PM  
onomatopoeon: "Mass Shootings are not "regular" in the United States."

LOL


Look, do you have anything useful to add, or are you just looking to demonstrate your complete and utter ignorance of what everyone else is talking about? I mean, it's cool either way, I'm perfectly ok with the "point and laugh at him", just as I am on debating the point that mass casuality incidents from mass shootings are not everyday operating practices.

Or, on the off chance you might not be trolling, since this is FARK, do you honestly believe 12+ killscores are common in the Wild West that is America?
 
2012-08-02 11:53:48 PM  
I cant see how President Obama is to blame for the state of healthcare in Australia. I do see to major problems in TFA:

1. When an emergency department is at capacity, they should have a "diversion policy" which would Round-Robin ambulances to other hospitals for a max of 2 hrs.

2. Train the public to STOP CALLING THE AMBULANCE FOR TRIVIAL SHIAT! My last call before retirement was to respond to "someone needing an ambulance". No other information was given. I got there (3:30 A.M.) to find the man had called because his feet were itching.

Yep... Itchy feet.

The general public needs to be taught what constitutes an emergency. Itchy feet, by the way, is not such an emergency.

/Feet were fine after he washed the nasty things.
 
2012-08-02 11:54:10 PM  
zzrhardy: gimmegimme: Vigorous_Apathy: So did they charge him for the ride?

That's a good point. Maybe the guy was just waiting for the HMO to approve his treatment.

QLD - no charge to individual for ambulance trip.
There would be no charge to individual for the hospitalisation either.

It's why we pay taxes.

A lot of us have added private health insurance which gives us services on top of the public like choice of doctors, private rooms and cover for dental and glasses.


To be fair, you people also nationalized the Ambulance Services in Austrailia, so they are actually provinchial and government employees.
 
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