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2012-08-02 03:18:51 PM
let's see if this gets any traction. the media won't report it, so he'll have to rely on the web and tv commercials.
 
2012-08-02 03:37:44 PM
Anyone hollering for more tax cuts for the wealthy needs to be beaten, tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.
 
2012-08-02 03:41:28 PM

Romney team decided to run a substance-free campaign w/ NO policy discussions by candidate. now they whine press wont focus on substance?

- Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) August 2, 2012
 
2012-08-02 03:54:01 PM
Rich Democrats: "Let's cut taxes on the poor and middle-class."

Rich Republicans: "Let's cut taxes for us."
 
2012-08-02 04:13:52 PM
img40.imageshack.us

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.
 
2012-08-02 04:22:22 PM

Blues_X: Rich Democrats: "Let's cut taxes on everyone."

Rich Republicans: "Let's cut taxes more for us."


fixed it
 
2012-08-02 04:22:35 PM
Wow, link crashes my crappy browser at work. Maybe someone will be kind enough to post a synopsis?
 
2012-08-02 04:28:48 PM

Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.


Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks
 
2012-08-02 04:32:59 PM

Elandriel: Wow, link crashes my crappy browser at work. Maybe someone will be kind enough to post a synopsis?


==

At the outset of his campaign, Romney tried to avoid committing himself, but by February, with GOP rivals outflanking him and facing steady pressure from Republican elites, he declared himself in favor of a 20 percent tax cut, a move greeted with joy from anti-tax activists. But he still attempted to hide the ball. Romney promised that his rate cut would be matched by closing tax deductions and some unspecified allowance for economic growth, and thus would not decrease the level (or the share) of taxes paid by the rich. Romney's boast that his plan could not be scored revealed the essential calculation. But the campaign miscalculated. Yesterday's study by the Brookings Institution and the Tax Policy Center showed that, even allowing for the faster growth predicted by Romney's own economist, there aren't enough tax deductions to account for the cost of the lower rates for the rich - raising taxes for the middle class would be the only way to make Romney's promises add up. Romney didn't hide the ball well enough.
 
2012-08-02 04:39:30 PM
pixel.nymag.com

Now there's a picture that captures a man's soul.
 
2012-08-02 04:40:17 PM
Thanks. Rich guy r dum
 
2012-08-02 04:45:44 PM
It helps when your quarry obligingly steps into the trap

/and ol' Mittens has certainly stuck his foot in it
 
2012-08-02 04:56:27 PM
This seems a little too wonky to sway most Americans. They'll just fall back on their emotional reactions and beliefs about taxes.

The real killer could be if he releases his taxes all the way back to 2000. If Harry Reid's irresponsible speculation turns out to be true, that's it. It's all over. Americans might not understand the tax code. But they understand that a guy making zillions and paying 0% or less is clearly a villain.
 
2012-08-02 05:06:39 PM

Fark It: Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks


Michele Bachmann = Jar Jar Binks
 
2012-08-02 05:09:19 PM

Lorelle: Fark It: Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks

Michele Bachmann = Jar Jar Binks minock


FTFY

/I'm pretty sure she's been chewing on the power cables
 
2012-08-02 05:19:33 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Michele Bachmann = Jar Jar Binks minock sy snootles



FTFY

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-08-02 05:25:37 PM

Lorelle: Fark It: Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks

Michele Bachmann = Jar Jar Binks


Do those four-panel "[picture]=[picture]" meme things have a name? I remember some stunningly funny ones during the '08 campaign season but I don't know what they're called.
 
2012-08-02 05:25:50 PM
Low information voters will listen to what the big box with pictures on it says and won't bother to read stuff like this article.
 
2012-08-02 05:28:14 PM

dahmers love zombie: Lorelle: Fark It: Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks

Michele Bachmann = Jar Jar Binks

Do those four-panel "[picture]=[picture]" meme things have a name? I remember some stunningly funny ones during the '08 campaign season but I don't know what they're called.


They don't really have a name, but here's the template.

img534.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-02 05:39:52 PM
The first is that the Brookings study cannot be trusted because its authors are biased. (Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom called the study a "joke.") The Weekly Standard pushes this line,

Really? The Brookings Institution?

Add it to The List
 
2012-08-02 05:47:14 PM

vernonFL: The first is that the Brookings study cannot be trusted because its authors are biased. (Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom called the study a "joke.") The Weekly Standard pushes this line,

Really? The Brookings Institution?

Add it to The List


You got it!

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
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2012-08-02 05:48:15 PM

vernonFL: The first is that the Brookings study cannot be trusted because its authors are biased. (Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom called the study a "joke.") The Weekly Standard pushes this line,

Really? The Brookings Institution?

Add it to The List


notice how they didn't refute it.
 
2012-08-02 05:49:25 PM

Mentat: And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.


The emperor was a murderous thug who ultimately had good intentions but who failed to put down a pack of relentlessly incompetent opponents who he should have smoked in about a week and ended up making the situation far worse.

Immediate, a pretty good metaphor for the Democrats all around, actually.
 
2012-08-02 05:51:14 PM

Ned Stark: Mentat: And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

The emperor was a murderous thug who ultimately had good intentions but who failed to put down a pack of relentlessly incompetent opponents who he should have smoked in about a week and ended up making the situation far worse.

Immediate, a pretty good metaphor for the Democrats all around, actually.


The guys who blew up both Death Stars are relentlessly incompetent?
 
2012-08-02 05:51:19 PM

Fark It: Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks


Now that's not fair. The Ewoks actually accomplished something.
 
2012-08-02 05:56:06 PM
How do you reconcile "ZOMG THE DEFICIT!!!" with "ZOMG NO TAX INCREASES!!!"?
 
2012-08-02 05:57:21 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Fark It: Mentat: [img40.imageshack.us image 500x342]

And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

Mitt Rmoney and the GOP establishment = Imperial Forces
Barack Obama and the Democrats = Rebel Alliance
2012 General = Return of the Jedi
GOP Convention = Endor
Paulistinians = Ewoks

Now that's not fair. The Ewoks actually accomplished something.


I agree, the Paulistinians = Sand People
 
2012-08-02 05:57:44 PM

fusillade762: How do you reconcile "ZOMG THE DEFICIT!!!" with "ZOMG NO TAX INCREASES!!!"?


By making the federal government into an old-age and health insurance company with its own military. Duh.

In all seriousness, Paul Ryan's budget literally would destroy the entire federal government outside of DOD, Social Security, and Medicare/Medicaid/whatever other health care programs there are.
 
2012-08-02 05:58:37 PM
I love the ad. Especially the part where Romney steps off a plane with another plane marked Trump in the background.

FishyFred: This seems a little too wonky to sway most Americans. They'll just fall back on their emotional reactions and beliefs about taxes.

The real killer could be if he releases his taxes all the way back to 2000. If Harry Reid's irresponsible speculation turns out to be true, that's it. It's all over. Americans might not understand the tax code. But they understand that a guy making zillions and paying 0% or less is clearly a villain.


It's fairly obvious that Romney has determined that releasing his tax info is more damaging than not releasing it.

I'm guessing that Romney did whatever he could to pay as little tax as possible. Perhaps it was zero, perhaps it was below or slightly above zero.

It's not going to sell well with the middle class that he wants to raise taxes on.
 
2012-08-02 05:59:27 PM

qorkfiend: Ned Stark: Mentat: And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

The emperor was a murderous thug who ultimately had good intentions but who failed to put down a pack of relentlessly incompetent opponents who he should have smoked in about a week and ended up making the situation far worse.

Immediate, a pretty good metaphor for the Democrats all around, actually.

The guys who blew up both Death Stars are relentlessly incompetent?


Both cases thanks to their talented pilots and even deeper incompetence on the part of imperial leadership. Certainly not attributable to any particular talent amongst the command structure.
 
2012-08-02 05:59:39 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-08-02 06:00:07 PM
As much as I am all for having Obama reelected, he didn't spring any trap on anyone. The republicans are doing this to themselves.

If they want to make it really easy for Obama, well... hats off to them.
 
2012-08-02 06:01:10 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Now that's not fair. The Ewoks actually accomplished something.


Worshipped C3PO?
 
2012-08-02 06:01:43 PM

Mentat: And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.


So they found the hand and built a robot around it?
 
2012-08-02 06:02:00 PM

Serious Black:
You got it!

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):


I love the List!

Do you happen to have The List hotlinked to all the associated articles someplace? That would be beyond awesome...
 
2012-08-02 06:04:51 PM

fusillade762: How do you reconcile "ZOMG THE DEFICIT!!!" with "ZOMG NO TAX INCREASES!!!"?


Drrrrrr...get rid of Planned Parenthood and the endowment for the Arts...

how else would you go about shaving trillions and trillions from the debt.
 
2012-08-02 06:05:00 PM

LordOfThePings: Philip Francis Queeg: Now that's not fair. The Ewoks actually accomplished something.

Worshipped C3PO?


who they thought was some sort of golden god.........waaaaaaaaaaaaait a second, this is starting to make waaaay too much sense
 
2012-08-02 06:05:46 PM
obama's tax trap?
really?
you think this is what has happened lately?
you think the Democrats have ever won on taxes?
obama and pelosi agree that the tax hikes for 99% of the population are verboten.
pelosi won't think about them for anyone making less than one million a year.
you can't even run your great society programs with present funding, never mind meeting future increased liabilities.
you can't run programs created in 1969 with present revenues.
and since democrats are unwilling to raise taxes on 99% of the population, they're raison d'etre (increased government spending for a better society) is essentially impossible to even attempt to implement. at it's heart that is why obamacare is such a piece of shiat. he was terrified of increasing the taxes necessary to run a well thought out program of reform and coverage. the middle class doesn't taxes if they have the generic house and the 2.1 kids. you will never fund any great government project that gets your panties wet again.
grover norquist's made the democrat party his biatch. don't ever forget it when you bemoan the lack of inspiring anything coming out of government.
 
2012-08-02 06:06:18 PM

rtaylor92: who they thought was some sort of golden god.........waaaaaaaaaaaaait a second, this is starting to make waaaay too much sense


Exactly.
 
2012-08-02 06:06:19 PM
And we haven't even gotten to religion yet. I wonder how Romney will handle the ritual prayer for Baby Jesus at the convention?
 
2012-08-02 06:07:14 PM

Surool: As much as I am all for having Obama reelected, he didn't spring any trap on anyone. The republicans are doing this to themselves.

If they want to make it really easy for Obama, well... hats off to them.


Yeah, that's the thing, people keep talking (and by "people keep talking" I mean, in most cases, "Republicans keep sniveling") about all of these horrible traps the Dems in general and Fartfarta in particular keep leaving. The problem is, they're not traps. It's just flat, level ground that the Repubs need to just walk across like normal farking people without shiatting themselves or tripping over their own feet or dropping their pants and masturbating furiously in the middle of the street.

Of course, if they could do that, they wouldn't be Republicans.
 
2012-08-02 06:07:33 PM

relcec: obama and pelosi agree that the tax hikes for 99% of the population are verboten.


I thought Republicans were against tax hikes, now you are complaining that democrats won't raise enough taxes?

Holy shiat can you guys be consistent for more than 5 seconds?
 
2012-08-02 06:07:41 PM

ThatGuyGreg: [pixel.nymag.com image 560x375]

Now there's a picture that captures a man's soul.


I've always liked this one:

solelytheopinion.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-02 06:08:35 PM

relcec: at it's heart that is why obamacare is such a piece of shiat. he was terrified of increasing the taxes necessary to run a well thought out program of reform and coverage.


At least keep your talking points straight. Is that too much to ask for?
 
2012-08-02 06:09:45 PM

Ned Stark: qorkfiend: Ned Stark: Mentat: And yes, I know the Emperor lost. But if Mitt Romney is Luke Skywalker, he's already insulted the culture of the Ewoks and cut his own hand off with his lightsaber.

The emperor was a murderous thug who ultimately had good intentions but who failed to put down a pack of relentlessly incompetent opponents who he should have smoked in about a week and ended up making the situation far worse.

Immediate, a pretty good metaphor for the Democrats all around, actually.

The guys who blew up both Death Stars are relentlessly incompetent?

Both cases thanks to their talented pilots and even deeper incompetence on the part of imperial leadership. Certainly not attributable to any particular talent amongst the command structure.


groomsadvice.com

Doubly obligatory
 
2012-08-02 06:11:32 PM

relcec: obama's tax trap?
really?
you think this is what has happened lately?
you think the Democrats have ever won on taxes?
obama and pelosi agree that the tax hikes for 99% of the population are verboten.
pelosi won't think about them for anyone making less than one million a year.
you can't even run your great society programs with present funding, never mind meeting future increased liabilities.
you can't run programs created in 1969 with present revenues.
and since democrats are unwilling to raise taxes on 99% of the population, they're raison d'etre (increased government spending for a better society) is essentially impossible to even attempt to implement. at it's heart that is why obamacare is such a piece of shiat. he was terrified of increasing the taxes necessary to run a well thought out program of reform and coverage. the middle class doesn't taxes if they have the generic house and the 2.1 kids. you will never fund any great government project that gets your panties wet again.
grover norquist's made the democrat party his biatch. don't ever forget it when you bemoan the lack of inspiring anything coming out of government.


images.sodahead.com

/keep twirling
 
2012-08-02 06:11:56 PM

leviosaurus: Serious Black:
You got it!

List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):


I love the List!

Do you happen to have The List hotlinked to all the associated articles someplace? That would be beyond awesome...


I wish. That list has been built by tons of other people for the last two or three years, and I have no idea why some of them are on it personally.
 
2012-08-02 06:13:04 PM
Vacation Bible School:
i.chzbgr.com

OK, tax plan coming out.
 
2012-08-02 06:14:13 PM
You can tell how scared the Republican apologists are that Mitt is circling the drain -

1) They don't even ever try to defend Mitt
2) They are still using the same bullshiat attack on Obama that haven't been working for the last 3 years.
 
2012-08-02 06:14:27 PM

Corvus: relcec: obama and pelosi agree that the tax hikes for 99% of the population are verboten.

I thought Republicans were against tax hikes, now you are complaining that democrats won't raise enough taxes?

Holy shiat can you guys be consistent for more than 5 seconds?


I'm for tax hikes and ending subsidies for anyone but the poor across the board and have been since have been posting here. how is that for consistent?
 
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