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2012-08-02 01:21:42 PM
Must be a slow news day in Sacramento.

Good for her, but she's not a pioneer. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of anti-bully groups on facebook already.
 
2012-08-02 01:24:30 PM
I'm sick of bullies, too, sweetie. No get back to the kitchen with your mom and learn to make a proper sammich.
 
2012-08-02 01:36:18 PM
This should be different.
 
2012-08-02 01:37:53 PM
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~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black woman ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don't need no bullies~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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2012-08-02 01:41:28 PM

Shostie:
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~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black woman ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don't need no bullies~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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Is that really going around?! Has anyone pointed out that the double negative actually means you do need bullies?
 
2012-08-02 01:42:12 PM

scottydoesntknow: Shostie:
╔═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╗
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black woman ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don't need no bullies~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
╚═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╝

Is that really going around?! Has anyone pointed out that the double negative actually means you do need bullies?


You should find the person who originally wrote that and let them know about the double negative.
 
2012-08-02 02:40:38 PM

scottydoesntknow: Shostie:
╔═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╗
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black woman ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don't need no bullies~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
╚═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╝

Is that really going around?! Has anyone pointed out that the double negative actually means you do need bullies?


Just because I do not need no bullies does not imply that I am currently in need of bullies.
 
2012-08-02 02:54:01 PM
I do not wish to start a troll or flame fest, so I shall be as diplomatic as I can be.

I really do not think it is possible to end bullying. Bullying moves beyond human nature as it is seen in many many animals. It is something that is deeply intertwined in our genes. We may be able to alleviate it a little bit, but halting it is IMO impossible.
 
2012-08-02 03:50:38 PM

cman: I do not wish to start a troll or flame fest, so I shall be as diplomatic as I can be.


www.zoklet.net

*gives cman an atomic wedgie and shoves him in locker*
 
2012-08-02 04:16:47 PM

cman: I do not wish to start a troll or flame fest, so I shall be as diplomatic as I can be.

I really do not think it is possible to end bullying. Bullying moves beyond human nature as it is seen in many many animals. It is something that is deeply intertwined in our genes. We may be able to alleviate it a little bit, but halting it is IMO impossible.


Most likely you're probably right. Certainly not sure if any of these campaigns are going to change enough peoples (kids) opinions and urges to bully.
 
2012-08-02 04:33:26 PM
I was tormented by a bully in middle school every day in gym class. Pushing, shoving, hitting, talking shiat, every day. The gym teacher saw it and didn't do anything about it. Probably thought it was funny. Finally, when the kid was farking with me, I turned around and decked him. Layed him right out. The gym teacher turns to me and said, "Why do you have to be so mean?" and I got suspended. That's when I learned how the world works. But I never got bullied again.

csb
 
2012-08-02 04:48:18 PM
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2012-08-02 04:49:00 PM
who wants to bully me? i'm fat, stupid, and gay (not really, i'm actually kinda depressed)
 
2012-08-02 04:50:46 PM

cman: I really do not think it is possible to end bullying


That's not entirely true. A nice quick poke to the bully's eye would probably end it pretty well.
 
2012-08-02 04:53:32 PM

scottydoesntknow: Good for her, but she's not a pioneer.


At what point did you get the impression anyone thought of her as a pioneer?
 
2012-08-02 04:53:54 PM

Grapple


cman: I really do not think it is possible to end bullying

That's not entirely true. A nice quick poke to the bully's eye would probably end it pretty well.


Yes, it would stop that particular person 1 to person 2 bullying, but it still requires person 1 to be an asswaffle at least once.

Eradicating the asswaffle urge is going to be bloody impossible.


Even for Bruce McCulloch, and he's the Eradicator.
 
2012-08-02 04:58:03 PM

cman: I do not wish to start a troll or flame fest, so I shall be as diplomatic as I can be.

I really do not think it is possible to end bullying. Bullying moves beyond human nature as it is seen in many many animals. It is something that is deeply intertwined in our genes. We may be able to alleviate it a little bit, but halting it is IMO impossible.


This is true but things can certainly be done to alleviate the problems that have come up with every kid on facebook now, talking shiat about their classmates where everyone can see.

I see another potential problem with the anti-bullying movement, though. A lot of the groups that support victims of 'bullying' appear to carry at least a tacit vilification of the bully. This seems counterproductive in the same way as sending criminals to prison for a few years and expecting them to come out and not re-commit. The problem isn't that the bully or criminal is malign or nefarious, but that they are caught in a destructive pattern of behavior that they learned much earlier on. The only reasonable way to combat this is to educate and help recondition the person such that they can be less of an asshole. Strictly enforcing punishment rather than rehabilitation leads only to further disenfranchisement.
 
2012-08-02 04:58:59 PM

scottydoesntknow: Must be a slow news day in Sacramento.


i like how under the new news they have
www.trbimg.com
 
2012-08-02 04:59:38 PM
Wait until 4chan hears about it.
 
2012-08-02 05:00:44 PM

Shostie: scottydoesntknow: Shostie:
╔═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╗
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black woman ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don't need no bullies~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
╚═════════════════ ೋღ☃ღೋ ════════════════╝

Is that really going around?! Has anyone pointed out that the double negative actually means you do need bullies?

You should find the person who originally wrote that and let them know about the double negative.


something tells me it's the same girl who took her myspace photo in the bathroom with a giant turd in the toilet.

I'm just sayin'
 
2012-08-02 05:00:47 PM

cman: I do not wish to start a troll or flame fest, so I shall be as diplomatic as I can be.

I really do not think it is possible to end bullying. Bullying moves beyond human nature as it is seen in many many animals. It is something that is deeply intertwined in our genes. We may be able to alleviate it a little bit, but halting it is IMO impossible.


I'll go you one better and say trying to squash it in schools may be one of the greatest disservices we've ever done to our kids. Learning to deal with bullies is kind of an important life skill, since someday your darling snowflake will grow up and enter the real world, where bullies can't be stopped. I had my awful six months in middle school (stomach aches, fear of PE, etc.) and I lived through it and learned to cope with mean biatches that way.

Bullying can't be stopped, and maybe it shouldn't be.
 
2012-08-02 05:01:30 PM
Hero tag? Creating a facebook profile does take a lot of effort.
 
2012-08-02 05:01:59 PM

Mugato: I was tormented by a bully in middle school every day in gym class. Pushing, shoving, hitting, talking shiat, every day. The gym teacher saw it and didn't do anything about it. Probably thought it was funny. Finally, when the kid was farking with me, I turned around and decked him. Layed him right out. The gym teacher turns to me and said, "Why do you have to be so mean?" and I got suspended. That's when I learned how the world works.


Pretty much, although I'd stop short of saying it's "how the world works". What I learned is that I was completely powerless in school. Which is a good thing, because it motivated me to avoid ever being in that situation again. My adult life is almost completely drama-free as a result.
 
2012-08-02 05:03:58 PM

tortilla burger: cman: I really do not think it is possible to end bullying.

Actually, this is one of the few instances in life where violence is the answer. This whole movement of trying to stop bullying through peaceful outside intervention is well-meaning but ultimately ineffective. A well-placed fist to the kisser is the only fix for bullying.


Until the bully gets 3 of his friends together to unleash some whoop-ass on you.
 
2012-08-02 05:05:00 PM
The only solution to bullying is to learn to stand up for yourself. If you don't, you will be bullied your whole life.

//I was once the scrawny new kid.
 
2012-08-02 05:05:11 PM
Writing an article about it and putting it online will in no way attract legions of douche bag internet trolls....
 
2012-08-02 05:06:08 PM

tortilla burger: Actually, this is one of the few instances in life where violence is the answer. This whole movement of trying to stop bullying through peaceful outside intervention is well-meaning but ultimately ineffective. A well-placed fist to the kisser is the only fix for bullying.


That, and bullying often spirals out of control because there is institutional support for bullying. In fact, the very rules marketed to parents as "anti-bullying" are used to persecute the victims who retaliate.

I don't know if Mugato's post was serious, but it's not an exaggeration. If anything, it's an understatement. The bully wreaks havoc on the student body because the only way to stop it is with violent retaliation, which is then swiftly punished using "anti-bullying" rules to suspend or expel the victim. The more these rules are put in place, the more power bullies have to torment others. I sometimes wonder if administrators do it on purpose; after all, every administrator I've ever met seemed to openly despise children.
 
2012-08-02 05:06:11 PM
My son is enrolled in a horseback riding summer camp this week. On Monday he learned how the horses have stratified into a very specific order with oldest and most dominant horses as leaders and youngest and meekest as the outcasts.

cman is right on in his observation that bullying is ingrained in our genetic makeup. It's not something that is taught or learned. It is inborn and some kids are born to be bullies and others are born to be bullied. Regardless of intelligence, social stratification is based on assertiveness and violence (and threat of violence).

As has been stated already, it's not likely that we can eliminate this type of behavior. It may be possible to blunt its effects, but to get rid of bullying altogether is impossible. If you've been bullied, you may not realize that you yourself may have bullied someone else lower than you on the social ladder. It is by bullying that one takes his place in society. Those that choose not to bully are the lowest of the low and will forever be stepped on.

It's just the way animals socialize.
 
2012-08-02 05:06:52 PM

Gyrfalcon: cman: I do not wish to start a troll or flame fest, so I shall be as diplomatic as I can be.

I really do not think it is possible to end bullying. Bullying moves beyond human nature as it is seen in many many animals. It is something that is deeply intertwined in our genes. We may be able to alleviate it a little bit, but halting it is IMO impossible.

I'll go you one better and say trying to squash it in schools may be one of the greatest disservices we've ever done to our kids. Learning to deal with bullies is kind of an important life skill, since someday your darling snowflake will grow up and enter the real world, where bullies can't be stopped. I had my awful six months in middle school (stomach aches, fear of PE, etc.) and I lived through it and learned to cope with mean biatches that way.

Bullying can't be stopped, and maybe it shouldn't be.


The way I see bullying is the same way I see germs. You don't want your kid to be inundated by it so they are always sick or always picked on, but it is good to help build an immunity. A child brought up in the sterile environment grows up to be naive, and helpless. It also depends on the age bullying is occurring how it should be handled. The major problem with bullying now are all of the deab-beat parents that don't care, and people that shouldn't be having kids anyways. You get a parent that cares about their kid and their behavior and you can have a parent-to-parent talk. Kids should fear and respect their parents enough to be scared of the repercussions of pissing off their parents.
 
2012-08-02 05:10:08 PM
The inability for people to rationally talk about this issue is a huge problem. Everyone reacts so strongly and gets flustered very easily. There is no one way of solving bullying. It take the schools, parents, and other students to try to rid itself of a culture in which bullies can thrive.

Is punching a bully the only solution? No. Does it work sometimes for some people? Yes. Questioning the people this worked for usually results in them feeling attacked and lashing out.

These threads rarely solve anything outside of becoming a place for people to share stories.

Wait....*looks around* Am I on Fark again? GOD DAMN IT!

/still bullied.
 
2012-08-02 05:12:07 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: My son is enrolled in a horseback riding summer camp this week. On Monday he learned how the horses have stratified into a very specific order with oldest and most dominant horses as leaders and youngest and meekest as the outcasts.

cman is right on in his observation that bullying is ingrained in our genetic makeup. It's not something that is taught or learned. It is inborn and some kids are born to be bullies and others are born to be bullied. Regardless of intelligence, social stratification is based on assertiveness and violence (and threat of violence).

As has been stated already, it's not likely that we can eliminate this type of behavior. It may be possible to blunt its effects, but to get rid of bullying altogether is impossible. If you've been bullied, you may not realize that you yourself may have bullied someone else lower than you on the social ladder. It is by bullying that one takes his place in society. Those that choose not to bully are the lowest of the low and will forever be stepped on.

It's just the way animals socialize.



And like animals, bullies who don't "get it" and violate societal norms (don't be an asshole, don't bully those smaller and weaker) , often respond very well to an acute lesson involving very negative reinforcement.
 
Skr
2012-08-02 05:13:20 PM
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Bullying is equal opportunity.
 
2012-08-02 05:13:33 PM

Gunny Highway: These threads rarely solve anything outside of becoming a place for people to share stories.


Yea, that's like 90% of FARK threads, at least.
 
2012-08-02 05:14:47 PM

Skr: [img2.imagesbn.com image 300x340]
Bullying is equal opportunity.


I wouldn't pick on Bobby simply because he's gonna develop magical powers and unleash his rage on the muggles.
 
2012-08-02 05:15:08 PM

Timmy the Tumor: AverageAmericanGuy: My son is enrolled in a horseback riding summer camp this week. On Monday he learned how the horses have stratified into a very specific order with oldest and most dominant horses as leaders and youngest and meekest as the outcasts.

cman is right on in his observation that bullying is ingrained in our genetic makeup. It's not something that is taught or learned. It is inborn and some kids are born to be bullies and others are born to be bullied. Regardless of intelligence, social stratification is based on assertiveness and violence (and threat of violence).

As has been stated already, it's not likely that we can eliminate this type of behavior. It may be possible to blunt its effects, but to get rid of bullying altogether is impossible. If you've been bullied, you may not realize that you yourself may have bullied someone else lower than you on the social ladder. It is by bullying that one takes his place in society. Those that choose not to bully are the lowest of the low and will forever be stepped on.

It's just the way animals socialize.


And like animals, bullies who don't "get it" and violate societal norms (don't be an asshole, don't bully those smaller and weaker) , often respond very well to an acute lesson involving very negative reinforcement.


Is that common in the animal world? Or are the alphas mostly fighting other alphas for power?

Are there examples of weaklings ganging up on the alpha as a reaction to constant abuse? Does this happen outside the homosapien species?
 
2012-08-02 05:15:20 PM
I was bullied when I was a kid. My sister did it until I kicked her so hard, she fell over. My cousin did it until I slapped him hard across the face. A kid in school did it until I knocked her out of her chair. Some guy did it on the subway... once...he regretted it.

As an adult, I have a lot more options about who I get to keep company with. You want my attention? Don't insult me. As for online bullies, I don't care. Life's too short and you can get a filtering add-on/plugin/app for just about anything.
 
2012-08-02 05:15:33 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: My son is enrolled in a horseback riding summer camp this week. On Monday he learned how the horses have stratified into a very specific order with oldest and most dominant horses as leaders and youngest and meekest as the outcasts.

cman is right on in his observation that bullying is ingrained in our genetic makeup. It's not something that is taught or learned. It is inborn and some kids are born to be bullies and others are born to be bullied. Regardless of intelligence, social stratification is based on assertiveness and violence (and threat of violence).

As has been stated already, it's not likely that we can eliminate this type of behavior. It may be possible to blunt its effects, but to get rid of bullying altogether is impossible. If you've been bullied, you may not realize that you yourself may have bullied someone else lower than you on the social ladder. It is by bullying that one takes his place in society. Those that choose not to bully are the lowest of the low and will forever be stepped on.

It's just the way animals socialize.


I see that someone is trying to justify the guilt they have from once having been a bully, but are also now so low on the social ladder they feel they must pat their self on the back for past actions to remind about once but now lost feelings of self-validation.
 
2012-08-02 05:15:36 PM

scottydoesntknow: Gunny Highway: These threads rarely solve anything outside of becoming a place for people to share stories.

Yea, that's like 90% of FARK threads, at least.


The other 10% are great bikini threads.
 
2012-08-02 05:15:56 PM
Wait a damn minute... girls get bullied too? I didn't know this..... if I had, I would have offered a coc.. err... . shoulder to cry on.
 
2012-08-02 05:16:42 PM
This is why society fails and young people vote for Democrats.

Try standing up for yourselves, damn pussies.
 
2012-08-02 05:17:11 PM

scottydoesntknow: Shostie:
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~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Repost this if ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ you are a beautiful strong black woman ~ ~ ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who don't need no bullies~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
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Is that really going around?! Has anyone pointed out that the double negative actually means you do need bullies?


Has anyone pointed out that no it doesn't?

Language =/= math.
 
2012-08-02 05:17:15 PM

thecpt: scottydoesntknow: Gunny Highway: These threads rarely solve anything outside of becoming a place for people to share stories.

Yea, that's like 90% of FARK threads, at least.

The other 10% are great bikini threads.


Hear, hear!
 
2012-08-02 05:18:22 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: Timmy the Tumor: AverageAmericanGuy: My son is enrolled in a horseback riding summer camp this week. On Monday he learned how the horses have stratified into a very specific order with oldest and most dominant horses as leaders and youngest and meekest as the outcasts.

cman is right on in his observation that bullying is ingrained in our genetic makeup. It's not something that is taught or learned. It is inborn and some kids are born to be bullies and others are born to be bullied. Regardless of intelligence, social stratification is based on assertiveness and violence (and threat of violence).

As has been stated already, it's not likely that we can eliminate this type of behavior. It may be possible to blunt its effects, but to get rid of bullying altogether is impossible. If you've been bullied, you may not realize that you yourself may have bullied someone else lower than you on the social ladder. It is by bullying that one takes his place in society. Those that choose not to bully are the lowest of the low and will forever be stepped on.

It's just the way animals socialize.


And like animals, bullies who don't "get it" and violate societal norms (don't be an asshole, don't bully those smaller and weaker) , often respond very well to an acute lesson involving very negative reinforcement.

Is that common in the animal world? Or are the alphas mostly fighting other alphas for power?

Are there examples of weaklings ganging up on the alpha as a reaction to constant abuse? Does this happen outside the homosapien species?



google says it happens with goats, some types of fish, mongooses (mongeese?) and dogs.

Oh, and the Stop Being A Dick bird in New Zealand
 
2012-08-02 05:18:30 PM

Contents Under Pressure: I was bullied when I was a kid. My sister did it until I kicked her so hard, she fell over. My cousin did it until I slapped him hard across the face. A kid in school did it until I knocked her out of her chair. Some guy did it on the subway... once...he regretted it.

As an adult, I have a lot more options about who I get to keep company with. You want my attention? Don't insult me. As for online bullies, I don't care. Life's too short and you can get a filtering add-on/plugin/app for just about anything.


I sure hope you're female because all your anecdote seems to be is a pattern of violence. Just hope it isn't also an indicator of other problems.
 
2012-08-02 05:19:28 PM

dragonchild: I don't know if Mugato's post was serious, but it's not an exaggeration


No, I'm serious. I'm no tough guy. I'm a skinny geek, always have been. But i stood up for myself once, got disciplined for it because that wasn't something a guy like me was "supposed" to do but it never happened again. I'm not saying it's right but it's sort of how it is, at least ot was when I was growing up. I doubt things have changed all that drastically.
 
2012-08-02 05:22:03 PM

Mugato: dragonchild: I don't know if Mugato's post was serious, but it's not an exaggeration

No, I'm serious. I'm no tough guy. I'm a skinny geek, always have been. But i stood up for myself once, got disciplined for it because that wasn't something a guy like me was "supposed" to do but it never happened again. I'm not saying it's right but it's sort of how it is, at least ot was when I was growing up. I doubt things have changed all that drastically.


Last year my little brother snapped back at a kid and made him look stupid. My brother then received detention for "horse play." A shiat ton has changed since you were a kid most likely.
 
2012-08-02 05:23:13 PM
If you are the type of person that tries to solve yoru problems by making facebook groups then you are gonna have big problems the rest of your life. And probably be a liberal
 
2012-08-02 05:27:17 PM
We should tease bullying until it kills itself.
 
2012-08-02 05:27:21 PM
Hmm, a lot of people are "bullied" one way or another in their lives, especially when they are younger. There are the people who move on with their lives (a majority of the people) and people who want to forever be the victim and never grow up and move on with their lives.......which sorry isn't a hero tag, it deserves a pathetic tag.
 
2012-08-02 05:27:41 PM

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