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(Fairbanks Daily Newsminer)   Not News: Man Gets DUI. News: Blood Alcohol Is Four Times The Legal Limit. FARK: Gets DUI While Rafting On A River   (newsminer.com) divider line 120
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2012-08-02 01:35:11 PM  
Was he floating recklessly?
 
2012-08-02 01:35:34 PM  
That's farking retarded.
 
2012-08-02 01:35:53 PM  
Police state USA USA USA!!!
 
2012-08-02 01:36:44 PM  
RWI(Rafting While Intoxicated). That's a new one.
 
2012-08-02 01:37:46 PM  
Press RETURN to size up the situation
 
2012-08-02 01:38:13 PM  
holy crap, at .3 he probably wasn't jumping into the river any more to pee.

JC
 
2012-08-02 01:38:38 PM  
Unfarking believable.
 
2012-08-02 01:39:57 PM  
He's a danger to himself! Get 'em boys! Yeehaw!
 
2012-08-02 01:40:43 PM  
this shiat is why jury nullification exists
 
2012-08-02 01:40:46 PM  
I think anyone stupid enough to get into a boat after drinking deserves a slap upside the head, but this DUI really does seem like a stretch.

The purpose of DUI is to protect others from being injured by a reckless driver. This guy wasn't a threat to anyone, unless you extend it to say that maybe if he'd fallen out of the boat and a rescue worker had to go in after him, he might be endangering them. But in that case, "Boating While Stupid" should be a crime because God knows there are plenty of tales of perfectly sober people falling out of boats and needing rescue.

The article makes it sound like the guy wasn't actually "navigating" the water craft. He was just floating along with the current. Again, painfully stupid, but not the same as an intoxicated boat driver recklessly swerving around swimmers and the like. If laying in a boat and drifting along is a DUI, so is dozing off while a passenger in a bus.
 
2012-08-02 01:40:47 PM  

Fano: Press RETURN to size up the situation


Not deer for dinner again.
 
2012-08-02 01:41:24 PM  
Twisting the intent of the law to put the screws to a citizen that wasn't toeing the line. That they would try to equate an inflatable raft to a watercraft like a boat (the law's presumed intent) is asinine. Unlike a drunk operating a car or a motorized boat, this guy wasn't a danger to anyone.

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks it may just be to increase municipal revenue. Falling short of quota, so hit him with a trumped up charge that has a larger fine.
 
2012-08-02 01:41:26 PM  
I could see the law applying to any motorized vessel, but I'm assuming this wasn't motorized.
 
2012-08-02 01:42:13 PM  
Under Alaska's DUI law, operating a water craft means to "navigate a vessel used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water for recreational or commercial purposes on all waters, fresh or salt, inland or coastal, inside the territorial limits or under the jurisdiction of the state.

It's not like the cops are twisting the law - it obviously applies.
 
2012-08-02 01:42:25 PM  
I was hoping this was atleast, he was a rafting guide he had people under his care, they paid his company and he was rafting drunk, etc. This is ree drunk u lus.
 
2012-08-02 01:42:57 PM  
I'll bet he gets sentenced to probation and a breathalyzer is installed in his raft so it wouldn't inflate unless he can pass the breath test.
 
2012-08-02 01:43:12 PM  
Well, I'll never float the lazy river at the hotel again.
 
2012-08-02 01:43:57 PM  
For farks sake.

they really need class limits for DUI.

I get how riding a bicycle drunk is dangerous, but it isn't inthe same league as driving a car drunk, and floating down a river drunk is nowehere in the same league as either of them.
 
2012-08-02 01:44:59 PM  
This is news? There are DUI arrests of boaters and tubers on the American River around Sacramento all the time. Also on the San Joaquin Delta.
 
2012-08-02 01:45:15 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Twisting the intent of the law to put the screws to a citizen that wasn't toeing the line. That they would try to equate an inflatable raft to a watercraft like a boat (the law's presumed intent) is asinine.


Intent? The law is pretty specific. You're the one presuming otherwise.

A raft is a vessel, used as a means of transportation on water. He was drunk off his ass while navigating said "vessel."

You could argue the law is stupid, but you can't pretend that the law doesn't apply.
 
2012-08-02 01:45:20 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Under Alaska's DUI law, operating a water craft means to "navigate a vessel used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water for recreational or commercial purposes on all waters, fresh or salt, inland or coastal, inside the territorial limits or under the jurisdiction of the state.

It's not like the cops are twisting the law - it obviously applies.


I don't know. You can't really navigate a raft. You more or less go where the current takes you, and again, it is bastardizing the intent of the law.
 
2012-08-02 01:47:16 PM  
WTF, srsly? Ok, what if he was just in a life vest and floating downstream? No foul?
 
2012-08-02 01:47:40 PM  
DUI laws are getting ridiculous. Floating? Legalization of goddamn anything will never happen if people are always being pigeon-holed into a philosophy of anything is bad when they just want to relax.

I've rafted with thousands and got hammered on Salt River, Havasu in early days in AZ. Cross the border to Rocky Point. Get out of hand? You got your ass kicked. No need for an arrest record. Problem solved. Want to quit drinking? Get your ass beat by your closest friends a few times, not shiat that ends up in your credit score for 10 years.
 
2012-08-02 01:48:34 PM  

bibli0phile: The article makes it sound like the guy wasn't actually "navigating" the water craft. He was just floating along with the current. Again, painfully stupid, but not the same as an intoxicated boat driver recklessly swerving around swimmers and the like. If laying in a boat and drifting along is a DUI, so is dozing off while a passenger in a bus


I have done some drunk tubing where people wait down river. Don't know enough about this area but it might not have been stupid at all.
 
2012-08-02 01:49:19 PM  

liam76: For farks sake.

they really need class limits for DUI.

I get how riding a bicycle drunk is dangerous, but it isn't inthe same league as driving a car drunk, and floating down a river drunk is nowehere in the same league as either of them.


Most places already have statutes for Public Intoxication on the books. It should be simple - if you are over the limit while under the control of a moving motorized vehicle, the charge can be DUI. If you are over the limit while in control of a moving non-motorized vehicle (raft, bike, skateboard, unicycle, whatever) the charge can be Public Intoxication, which maybe a moving violation of careless driving if you are creating a traffic hazard on a public road. If you are in a non-moving vehicle of any type while intoxicated, and you aren't illegally parked, there shouldn't be any charge.
 
2012-08-02 01:49:25 PM  
romhustler.net

Coke cans or Budweiser, you be the judge
 
2012-08-02 01:49:33 PM  
Maybe he was rafting because a 0.313 BAC would make it hard to walk, don't Juneau.
 
2012-08-02 01:50:13 PM  

H31N0US: Police state USA USA USA!!!


Alaska is not part of the US, and I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missourah...
 
2012-08-02 01:51:32 PM  
THIS is why we need to redo that whole police thing.
Hopefully there is still a sane judge in charge.

Fark It, people are still more important than nanny rules.

/but that is a changin'
 
2012-08-02 01:51:42 PM  
Here in Wisconsin, no motor - no crime. That's for boats under 17 feet.
 
2012-08-02 01:52:29 PM  
Whoever charged this man with DUI is commie scum.
 
2012-08-02 01:52:51 PM  

bibli0phile: anyone stupid enough to get into a boat after drinking


Wait, you can have multi-day rafting trips without booze and drugs? Huh, wonders never cease.

Fano: [romhustler.net image 384x512]

Coke cans or Budweiser, you be the judge


Daaaamn, I have not thought about that game in a long time. It was difficult, IIRC.
 
2012-08-02 01:53:49 PM  
Pigs love easy prey. It would be amazing if they actually worked for living.
 
2012-08-02 01:55:16 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: this shiat is why jury nullification exists


Yep. That's a dumb law.
 
2012-08-02 01:55:29 PM  

asscorethethird: Here in Wisconsin, no motor - no crime. That's for boats under 17 feet.


Plus, in WI, your first 10 DUI charges are only a $50 fine that you can pay right there.
 
2012-08-02 01:55:30 PM  
What a dinghy.
 
2012-08-02 01:56:47 PM  
So, in College, we got tanked right before entering Disneyland for the sole purpose of riding Space Mountain (with sunglasses). Fun times.

So, would I have been a candidate for a DUI on the Autopia?

/good times
 
2012-08-02 01:57:38 PM  
GF named my left testicle thundercles


this shiat is why jury nullification exists

While I agree with you, it would never happen. Americans want government gunmen watching them every moment of their lives.
 
2012-08-02 01:58:04 PM  
My head keeps on spinning
Proud Mary keeps on drinking
I'll be barfing....barfing....barfing...barfing...
barfing down the river
 
2012-08-02 02:00:19 PM  

Fano: [romhustler.net image 384x512]

Coke cans or Budweiser, you be the judge


+1 internetz good sir / ma'am
 
2012-08-02 02:01:54 PM  
They had to enforce this in Ontario due to the "water-skiing-while-wearing-beer-helmet" pyramids and jet-ski pile-ups. We kinda brought this on ourselves.
 
2012-08-02 02:02:34 PM  

asscorethethird: Here in Wisconsin, no motor - no crime. That's for boats under 17 feet.


Here in AK if it is moving, and carrying you along with it, it's a vehicle. At least, that is the definition the Coast Guard gave me.

/Gotta drop anchor to get your booze on
 
2012-08-02 02:05:30 PM  
www4.obamiconme.pastemagazine.com
 
2012-08-02 02:05:51 PM  
I don't kayak sober.. I don't canoe sober. The only thing I do sober is drive my 21' mastercraft.. If it has no engine I should be drunk while in it.
 
2012-08-02 02:06:34 PM  
You can see how they might have stopped the raft and forced him to find a ride home but a DUI? Sucks about that bail money even if he gets off the hook... $2,500? Holy fark.
 
2012-08-02 02:06:39 PM  
Summer "toobing" is the National Sport of Texas. On the Comal and Guadalupe Rivers, the damn cops will actually stand in the shallows and ask for ID if the person drinking looks underage. There are so many arrests during holiday weekends, they even set up farking tents to book people.
 
2012-08-02 02:08:35 PM  

fanbladesaresharp:

I've rafted with thousands and got hammered on Salt River, Havasu


What proof is the Salt River?
 
2012-08-02 02:09:23 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: You can't really navigate a raft. You more or less go where the current takes you,


Says someone who has never been rafting.
 
2012-08-02 02:09:48 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Under Alaska's DUI law, operating a water craft means to "navigate a vessel used or capable of being used as a means of transportation on water for recreational or commercial purposes on all waters, fresh or salt, inland or coastal, inside the territorial limits or under the jurisdiction of the state.

It's not like the cops are twisting the law - it obviously applies.


I would argue that a raft is not a navigable vessel, depending on it's size and whether or not it had paddles.
 
2012-08-02 02:10:07 PM  

xynix: If it has no engine I should be drunk while in it.


Your girlfriend might like to have sex with you sober, every once-in-a-while
 
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