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(Rolling Stone)   Bob Dylan talks about his "dark" new album, which hopefully takes us back to the sound he perfected on Empire Burlesque   (rollingstone.com) divider line 43
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2012-08-02 11:54:27 AM
God, I hope it's as dark as Christmas in the Heart.
 
2012-08-02 11:56:42 AM
i1.ytimg.com
 
2012-08-02 11:59:35 AM
"People are going to say, 'Well, it's not very truthful,'" says Dylan. "But a songwriter doesn't care about what's truthful. What he cares about is what should've happened, what could've happened. That's its own kind of truth. It's like people who read Shakespeare plays, but they never see a Shakespeare play. I think they just use his name."

Good to see he doesn't let things like "facts" or "coherency" get in the way of his derivative songwriting.
 
2012-08-02 12:07:01 PM
Bob Dylan talks - and it sounds like this:

ERMAHGERD! ERM BMERB DERLARN BMERTCH!

Finally! The meme is relevant to the thread!
 
2012-08-02 12:07:32 PM
Come on man, are you really going to troll a Dylan thread? He is one of the last good things left in America. When he goes, the last vestige of the American Soul goes with him.
 
2012-08-02 12:08:47 PM

SkylineRecords: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]


i.ytimg.com

Mailboxes drip like lampposts in the twisted birth canal of the coliseum
Rim job fairy teapots mask the temper tantrum
O' say can you see 'em
Stuffed cabbage is the darling of the Laundromat
'N the sorority mascot sat with the lumberjack
Pressing passing stinging half synthetic fabrication of his-- Time
The mouse with the overbite explained how the rabbits were ensnared
'N the skinny scanty sylph trashed the apothecary diplomat
Inside the three-eyed monkey within inches of his toaster oven life


In my mind
I'm half blind
My inner ref
Is mostly deaf
I'm smell impaired
If you cared
My sense of taste is wasted on the phosphorescent orange peels of San Francisco axe-encrusted frenzy


So let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Where the Ro-yal Jelly gets made


Coleratura singers bringing weeds and social clingers
Hangers-on and fancy flingers
To the dress ball
Mushrooms and bowling pins
Stove pipe hats and other things I can't recall
From Juvenile hall
We're so unlucky and stuff
Woodrow Wilson never had it so tough
Dairy Queen and Vaseline and Maybelline
Paul Bunyan and James Dean


Allegory agencies of pre-Raphaelite paganry
And Shenandoah tapestries
Compared with good mahogany
Collapsing the undying postcard romance
With feline perspicacity
By the university
That night I held a paucity
Which you deemed common courtesy
I wasn't what you thought I'd be
I shouldn't have invited you to dance


In my tree
I'm halfway free
And in my chair
One quarter there
In my dream
One-sixteenth cream
In the coffee of the Courtier
Of the sycophant assistant to the king


So let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Where the Ro----yal Jelly gets made
 
2012-08-02 12:17:41 PM
Bob Dylan talks about his "dark" new album

Was Tom Petty there to translate?
 
2012-08-02 12:17:57 PM
I look at Dylan the same way I do Stevie Wonder. Any criticism of his recent work is invalid because of Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61 Revisted and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and Blood on the Tracks.

/with Stevie it's Where I'm Coming From, Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Songs in the Key of Life
 
2012-08-02 12:18:12 PM

karmaceutical: Come on man, are you really going to troll a Dylan thread? He is one of the last good things left in America. When he goes, the last vestige of the American Soul goes with him.


One of the last good things left in America? I'm a huge fan of Mr Zimmerman, but Fats Domino and Chuck Berry would like to have a word with you.
 
2012-08-02 12:22:05 PM

holdenoversoul: I'm a huge fan of Mr Zimmerman


img402.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-02 12:23:28 PM
I'm in the minority of those who think Dylan's lyrics, songwriting and voice were at their peak in the 70's.

"Blood on the Tracks", "Desire" and "Street Legal" are fantastic albums. He had a lot of fire and grit then. The live versions of "Isis" and "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" from the Rolling Thunder tour are practically hard rock. Awesome stuff.
 
2012-08-02 12:27:07 PM

amindtat: Lyrics to Royal Jelly


That song is deep, but I was more partial to his protest songs about the plight of the midget.
 
2012-08-02 12:29:13 PM

amindtat: SkylineRecords: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]



Mailboxes drip like lampposts in the twisted birth canal of the coliseum
Rim job fairy teapots mask the temper tantrum
O' say can you see 'em
Stuffed cabbage is the darling of the Laundromat
'N the sorority mascot sat with the lumberjack
Pressing passing stinging half synthetic fabrication of his-- Time
The mouse with the overbite explained how the rabbits were ensnared
'N the skinny scanty sylph trashed the apothecary diplomat
Inside the three-eyed monkey within inches of his toaster oven life


In my mind
I'm half blind
My inner ref
Is mostly deaf
I'm smell impaired
If you cared
My sense of taste is wasted on the phosphorescent orange peels of San Francisco axe-encrusted frenzy


So let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Where the Ro-yal Jelly gets made


Coleratura singers bringing weeds and social clingers
Hangers-on and fancy flingers
To the dress ball
Mushrooms and bowling pins
Stove pipe hats and other things I can't recall
From Juvenile hall
We're so unlucky and stuff
Woodrow Wilson never had it so tough
Dairy Queen and Vaseline and Maybelline
Paul Bunyan and James Dean


Allegory agencies of pre-Raphaelite paganry
And Shenandoah tapestries
Compared with good mahogany
Collapsing the undying postcard romance
With feline perspicacity
By the university
That night I held a paucity
Which you deemed common courtesy
I wasn't what you thought I'd be
I shouldn't have invited you to dance


In my tree
I'm halfway free
And in my chair
One quarter there
In my dream
One-sixteenth cream
In the coffee of the Courtier
Of the sycophant assistant to the king


So let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Let me touch you
Where the Ro----yal Jelly gets made


Can I actually say I found that interesting and fun? Good job!
 
2012-08-02 12:32:07 PM

sprawl15: holdenoversoul: I'm a huge fan of Mr Zimmerman

[img402.imageshack.us image 500x375]


ha!
 
2012-08-02 12:34:22 PM
 
2012-08-02 12:35:58 PM

holdenoversoul: karmaceutical: Come on man, are you really going to troll a Dylan thread? He is one of the last good things left in America. When he goes, the last vestige of the American Soul goes with him.

One of the last good things left in America? I'm a huge fan of Mr Zimmerman, but Fats Domino and Chuck Berry would like to have a word with you.


You want to give equal weight to the cultural or musical contributions of Fats Domino and Bob Dylan?
 
2012-08-02 12:36:42 PM
I think Dylan is the most over-rated musician in modern history, bar none.

Look, we get it. You like the incoherent ramblings of an acid-trippin, drunken sot that has muscle-memorized about four chords on a down-tuned acoustic guitar. Yay you.

The rest of the world has been tired of him for three decades.
 
2012-08-02 12:44:01 PM

Snapper Carr: I look at Dylan the same way I do Stevie Wonder. Any criticism of his recent work is invalid because of Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61 Revisted and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and Blood on the Tracks.

/with Stevie it's Where I'm Coming From, Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Songs in the Key of Life


This is twice today I have caught you posting something relevant, intelligent, and worthy of my agreement.

Welcome to dark green.
 
2012-08-02 12:56:39 PM

xaks

I think Dylan is the most over-rated musician in modern history, bar none.

Look, we get it. You like the incoherent ramblings of an acid-trippin, drunken sot that has muscle-memorized about four chords on a down-tuned acoustic guitar. Yay you.

The rest of the world has been tired of him for three decades.


I do like the incoherent ramblings of an acid-trippin, drunken sot that has muscle-memorized about four chords on a down-tuned acoustic guitar, but that doesn't describe Dylan.

But, music is personal, so need to argue with you.
 
2012-08-02 12:59:12 PM

karmaceutical: holdenoversoul: karmaceutical: Come on man, are you really going to troll a Dylan thread? He is one of the last good things left in America. When he goes, the last vestige of the American Soul goes with him.

One of the last good things left in America? I'm a huge fan of Mr Zimmerman, but Fats Domino and Chuck Berry would like to have a word with you.

You want to give equal weight to the cultural or musical contributions of Fats Domino and Bob Dylan?


Yeah, I do. Fats had a huge musical influence on Rock and Roll and R&B, and has sold about as many records as Dylan. Culturally, Fats was at the headwaters of the civil rights movement - he broke racial barriers. "White" radio played his songs, and he was playing to integrated audiences - in the 1950's South. Maybe he didn't write "protest songs," but I would easily give put him on equal footing with ANY influential American musician of the past 100 years.

recommended reading
 
2012-08-02 12:59:20 PM

John Buck 41: This is twice today I have caught you posting something relevant, intelligent, and worthy of my agreement.


Give me time, I'll post something unbelievably stupid eventually.



/thanks though. It's always nice to have ones thoughts validated (even if it is by a complete stranger)
 
2012-08-02 01:01:23 PM

Snapper Carr: John Buck 41: This is twice today I have caught you posting something relevant, intelligent, and worthy of my agreement.

Give me time, I'll post something unbelievably stupid eventually.



/thanks though. It's always nice to have ones thoughts validated (even if it is by a complete stranger)


I'm hardly complete (unless I die in the next 10 seconds).
 
2012-08-02 01:03:08 PM
FTFA: "I wanted to make something more religious, I just didn't have enough [religious songs]. Intentionally, specifically religious songs is what I wanted to do. That takes a lot more concentration to pull that off 10 times with the same thread - than it does with a record like I ended up with."

So I guess we were saved from another
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2012-08-02 01:11:52 PM

holdenoversoul: sprawl15: holdenoversoul: I'm a huge fan of Mr Zimmerman

[img402.imageshack.us image 500x375]

ha!


Here's the story of George Zimmerman
His tragic tale around Freeper land
When they premier the movie, outrage over iced tea
No proof, No truth No relation to meee
 
2012-08-02 01:16:43 PM
Who?
 
2012-08-02 01:23:48 PM
Bob's last great album:

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I swear I'm not trolling.

/but i think maybe he was
 
2012-08-02 01:28:00 PM

misterhowl: I'm in the minority of those who think Dylan's lyrics, songwriting and voice were at their peak in the 70's.

"Blood on the Tracks", "Desire" and "Street Legal" are fantastic albums. He had a lot of fire and grit then. The live versions of "Isis" and "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" from the Rolling Thunder tour are practically hard rock. Awesome stuff.


Pleased to know you, fellow "in the minority" member.
 
2012-08-02 01:31:51 PM
You're going to Sodom and Gomorrah
But what do you care ? Ain't nobody there would want marry your sister


Suck it haters. Now get back to me in 30 years and tell me how Deadmau5 inspired you to buy that hat.
 
2012-08-02 01:55:04 PM

xaks: The rest of the world has been tired of him for three decades.


Of his last five records, four were top 10 albums, and two of them were #1 albums. Two went platinum despite few records other than auto-tuned pop going platinum these days.

If that is the result of the world being tired of him, I'd like for the world to be tired of me, too. I could use the money.
 
2012-08-02 01:56:40 PM

misterhowl: I'm in the minority of those who think Dylan's lyrics, songwriting and voice were at their peak in the 70's.


Absolutely. Though I like his '60s work just fine, I think "Blood on the Tracks" is his best album by a country mile. It's the work of a mature artist rather than a kid pretending to be a mature artist.
 
2012-08-02 01:58:42 PM

Snapper Carr: I look at Dylan the same way I do Stevie Wonder. Any criticism of his recent work is invalid because of Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61 Revisted and The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and Blood on the Tracks.

/with Stevie it's Where I'm Coming From, Music of My Mind, Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and Songs in the Key of Life


I'm with you on this, though throw in Bringing It All Back Home and, to a lesser extent, Nashville Skyline and The Basement Tapes. Oh and hell, Another Side just for fun.

The Stones are the same way with Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, and Exile, with partial credit for everything else up through Tattoo You.

Re: the "incomprehensible" Dylan lyrics, I was thinking on this just the other night when "Stuck Inside of Mobile..." came up on shuffle. I found myself singing along to every word and able to easily make out every word with no problem at all. The guy enunciates quite clearly, actually. Sure, the voice itself is an acquired taste, but I just don't get it when people say it's hard to understand what he's saying. Now what he means on the other hand....
 
2012-08-02 02:24:28 PM

misterhowl: I'm in the minority of those who think Dylan's lyrics, songwriting and voice were at their peak in the 70's.

"Blood on the Tracks", "Desire" and "Street Legal" are fantastic albums. He had a lot of fire and grit then. The live versions of "Isis" and "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" from the Rolling Thunder tour are practically hard rock. Awesome stuff.


I thought I was the only one in the world that loved "street legal"

I won it at a NH beach side bordwalk carnival game in1979 . 33years later and I'm still spinning that peice of vinyl.

cool :)
 
2012-08-02 03:02:34 PM
Dylan wrote some of the most beautiful songs ever written. Unfortunately, he sang them himself.

"forever young" is one of my favorites.

This version by audra mae is a perfect example of how it should be sung. It will bring tears to your eyes.

Link
 
2012-08-02 03:17:41 PM

Basily Gourt: This version by audra mae is a perfect example of how it should be sung. It will bring tears to your eyes.


He's also responsible for, hands down, the best anti-war song.

Masters of War
 
2012-08-02 03:22:04 PM

Snapper Carr: Basily Gourt: This version by audra mae is a perfect example of how it should be sung. It will bring tears to your eyes.

He's also responsible for, hands down, the best anti-war song.

Masters of War


That isn't the title of A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall
 
2012-08-02 04:48:19 PM
shoegaze99:
Of his last five records, four were top 10 albums, and two of them were #1 albums. Two went platinum despite few records other than auto-tuned pop going platinum these days.

If that is the result of the world being tired of him, I'd like for the world to be tired of me, too. I could use the money.

Which, of course, means American Midol is teh bestest TV show EVAR recorded, and Justin Breiber is next up as the greatest recording artist and songwriter...

Oh, wait...
 
2012-08-02 04:52:29 PM
xaks

Which, of course, means American Midol is teh bestest TV show EVAR recorded, and Justin Breiber is next up as the greatest recording artist and songwriter...

Oh, wait...


You confused "not tired of" to mean "teh bestest". Don't hurt yourself moving those goal posts.

We get it. You don't like Dylan.
 
2012-08-02 05:13:48 PM

xaks: Which, of course, means American Midol is teh bestest TV show EVAR recorded, and Justin Breiber is next up as the greatest recording artist and songwriter...


Yeah, see, what I didn't do was claim that his success makes him good, what I did was point out that his success easily refutes your claim that the world is sick of him.

He continues to be successful, therefore the world is not sick of him.

There is no assessment of the quality of what he does in pointing that out.

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2012-08-02 08:01:25 PM
When I always hear his music, it sounds like he is mumbling or whining. Sometimes both. Never understood the big deal but to each there own.
 
2012-08-02 09:49:08 PM
Am I the only one who thought he was dead?
 
2012-08-03 02:43:04 AM
His first album is great, "Blood On The Tracks" is awesome. I also have a soft spot for "Good As I Been To You".

Give Xaks a joint and a copy of "Desire", and I think he'll eventually get the point. Was it Levon Helm that said that if you really do like music, you'll eventually get around to Bob Dylan?

Bob Dylan influenced the Beatles, and the Beatles influenced everybody. What more really needs to be said? Like him or not, he's one of the most seminal artists in world history, and certainly American history.

I know, music is subjective and all that, but I would think that of all things this would be an indisputable fact.
 
2012-08-03 08:12:16 AM
No comment except for that my brother saw him about 2 years ago and said it was the worst live show he's ever seen.

If you want a guy who can actually still perform nowadays in the same genre, look at Neil Young.
 
2012-08-03 09:19:49 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Snapper Carr: Basily Gourt: This version by audra mae is a perfect example of how it should be sung. It will bring tears to your eyes.

He's also responsible for, hands down, the best anti-war song.

Masters of War

That isn't the title of A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall


Or John Brown
 
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