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(The Daily Show)   Lamestream lieberal Jon Stewart doubles down on Harry Reid's comments about Mitt Romney's taxes. And by "double down" we mean hits him with both barrels   (thedailyshow.com) divider line 144
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2012-08-02 11:05:29 AM  
Yeah, fark you too Jon.

Politics is dirty.
 
2012-08-02 11:19:26 AM  
"The Sideboob Gazette" (in reference to the Huffington Post) made me guffaw out loud.
 
2012-08-02 11:23:39 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Yeah, fark you too Jon.

Politics is dirty.


There's plenty to attack Mitt on that's legit and clear without resorting to "some guy called me and said he didn't pay taxes; I don't know if it's true but what if?"
 
2012-08-02 11:46:15 AM  

Quasar: Tor_Eckman: Yeah, fark you too Jon.

Politics is dirty.

There's plenty to attack Mitt on that's legit and clear without resorting to "some guy called me and said he didn't pay taxes; I don't know if it's true but what if?"


I hope Reid calls him a pig farker next.
 
2012-08-02 12:14:16 PM  
B-b-b-but Jon Stewart is part of the liEberal media! He wouldn't defend Romney!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-02 12:26:20 PM  
I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.
 
2012-08-02 12:30:18 PM  

vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.


That may well be true but what Stewart was saying is that this guy was screaming, "Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.....what I just said might not be true!". And sort of thing isn't helping.
 
2012-08-02 12:36:58 PM  
And this is what separates people like Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow from people like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. When people they typically side with politically completely screw the pooch, The Stewarts and Maddows don't hand 'em a pass. They take them just as much to task as they do the other guys. They do it because they're disappointed. They do it because left is better than that.
 
2012-08-02 12:38:46 PM  

Mugato: vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.

That may well be true but what Stewart was saying is that this guy was screaming, "Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.....what I just said might not be true!". And sort of thing isn't helping.


No, he said he didn't know if it was true, but he heard from an old Bain partner of Romney's that he hasn't paid taxes for 10 years.

That's quite a bit different.
 
2012-08-02 12:40:29 PM  

MaxxLarge: And this is what separates people like Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow from people like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. When people they typically side with politically completely screw the pooch, The Stewarts and Maddows don't hand 'em a pass. They take them just as much to task as they do the other guys. They do it because they're disappointed. They do it because left is better than that.


Yeah. Kerry was reluctant to counter the swiftboat attacks because he was better than that. It worked out pretty well for him.

You've got to fight fire with fire.
 
2012-08-02 01:09:37 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Yeah. Kerry was reluctant to counter the swiftboat attacks because he was better than that. It worked out pretty well for him. You've got to fight fire with fire.


And right there is why better ethics and a higher compassion level are both the Left's greatest strength, and biggest Achilles' heel. Their give-a-$#!+ level is the reason I vote for them, but because they so rarely fight dirty, or sink to the levels of their Conservative opponents, they lose more often than they should.

At the end of the day, they may still be able to look at themselves in the mirror...but when they wind up ceding their contests to the rapacious toadies of robber barons, the end doesn't justify the means as much as we'd hope.
 
2012-08-02 01:41:11 PM  
Reid's statement wasn't intended to be factual. Jon Stewart is a big meanie.
 
2012-08-02 01:41:24 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Quasar: Tor_Eckman: Yeah, fark you too Jon.

Politics is dirty.

There's plenty to attack Mitt on that's legit and clear without resorting to "some guy called me and said he didn't pay taxes; I don't know if it's true but what if?"

I hope Reid calls him a pig farker next.


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2012-08-02 01:43:47 PM  
Why hasn't the campaign given an official response to the rumor that Mitt Romney raped and murdered an IRS agent in 1990?

/just asking questions here
 
2012-08-02 01:44:42 PM  

vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.


Especially since Romney himself said that releasing more than 2 years of his taxes would be detrimental to his campaign.
 
2012-08-02 01:50:03 PM  
The whole thing about his Dad being ashamed is awful without context. I believe Mitt's father was the one that started the trend of showing tax returns when running for President and, thus, the fact his son wouldn't follow his own rule is a point to hit with.
 
2012-08-02 01:50:04 PM  
I do feel Reid giving 'words' to this will make it less effective.

We were doing just fine imagining the reason that Mitt was hiding the returns cause of 'no taxes' or somesuch, and the beauty was since it wasn't really a charge leveled by a specific person or group, you couldn't do "Oh look its the Libs doing their thing again! They hate America!". And there wasn't really a strong focused counter the GOP side could do, since there was no direct accuser, but now, cause Sen Dumbass made it, it'll be easier to focus the attack/rebuttal machines.

Not that the Mitt-machine has proven very good at taking advantage of opportunities to boost their campaign, but if they were smart they'd spin this to let them take the high ground, sorta a semi-petulant "See this is why we CAN'T release the tax records, because senator meanie's comments have muddied the water!', it'd be complete bullshiat of course, but enough to satisfy their own base.
 
2012-08-02 01:50:41 PM  

vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.


It is lame/low-class to make up shiat you have no way of knowing is true as a sitting Senator. But seeing as tax policy is really an important issue in this election, I can understand why they want to force his hand.

However, pulling in Romney's dad the way he did is truly farking pathetic.
 
2012-08-02 01:51:11 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Yeah, fark you too Jon.

Politics is dirty.


If you dish it out, you better be able to take it. By not acknowledging that was Reid said was stupid you lose your credibility.
 
2012-08-02 01:51:18 PM  

voran: I do feel Reid giving 'words' to this will make it less effective.

We were doing just fine imagining the reason that Mitt was hiding the returns cause of 'no taxes' or somesuch, and the beauty was since it wasn't really a charge leveled by a specific person or group, you couldn't do "Oh look its the Libs doing their thing again! They hate America!". And there wasn't really a strong focused counter the GOP side could do, since there was no direct accuser, but now, cause Sen Dumbass made it, it'll be easier to focus the attack/rebuttal machines.

Not that the Mitt-machine has proven very good at taking advantage of opportunities to boost their campaign, but if they were smart they'd spin this to let them take the high ground, sorta a semi-petulant "See this is why we CAN'T release the tax records, because senator meanie's comments have muddied the water!', it'd be complete bullshiat of course, but enough to satisfy their own base.


Their own base doesn't need to be satisfied on the subject of Mitt Romney's tax returns.
 
2012-08-02 01:52:04 PM  

Quasar: Tor_Eckman: Yeah, fark you too Jon.

Politics is dirty.

There's plenty to attack Mitt on that's legit and clear without resorting to "some guy called me and said he didn't pay taxes; I don't know if it's true but what if?"


Why not? It's not like Mitt's gonna release his tax returns and prove him wrong. So what if we have as much evidence that he didn't pay taxes as we do that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990? All we're doing is tossing out questions.
 
2012-08-02 01:52:29 PM  

Tax Boy: Why hasn't the campaign given an official response to the rumor that Mitt Romney raped and murdered an IRS agent in 1990?

/just asking questions here


Because it might open the door to Barak Obama's rumored early 1990s overnight visits to Jerry Sandusky's house.

/See how easy it is to play that game.
 
2012-08-02 01:53:23 PM  

MaxxLarge: And this is what separates people like Jon Stewart and Rachel Maddow from people like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. When people they typically side with politically completely screw the pooch, The Stewarts and Maddows don't hand 'em a pass. They take them just as much to task as they do the other guys. They do it because they're disappointed. They do it because left is better than that.


What good is the moral high ground when it's on a flimsy pedestal that's easily knocked over by the people on the moral low ground?
 
2012-08-02 01:53:44 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Mugato: vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.

That may well be true but what Stewart was saying is that this guy was screaming, "Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.....what I just said might not be true!". And sort of thing isn't helping.

No, he said he didn't know if it was true, but he heard from an old Bain partner of Romney's that he hasn't paid taxes for 10 years.

That's quite a bit different.


He's is repeating an unfounded and unsourced rumor. It's a cheap shot.
 
2012-08-02 01:54:09 PM  
Speculation: Reid has it right, but got it through illegal means, so he invented the "guy who worked at Bain for 10 years"
 
2012-08-02 01:54:17 PM  

Mugato: vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.

That may well be true but what Stewart was saying is that this guy was screaming, "Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years.....what I just said might not be true!". And sort of thing isn't helping.


Exactly that sort of thing has kept Republicans in power for as long as I can remember. Politics is a street fight now, better get used to it. The Repubs are counting on voter suppression in battle ground states and Dems want to whine about speculation of Romney's tax returns?

No wonder were losers.
 
2012-08-02 01:55:17 PM  
The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.
 
2012-08-02 01:56:39 PM  

kapaso: The Repubs are counting on voter suppression in battle ground states


What do you propose the Democrats do about voter ID laws between now and November?
 
2012-08-02 01:56:56 PM  
I think Reid and the Dems handled it poorly. This sort of rumor needs to be started in a more subversive manner. Planted comments in tweets. Facebook postings. Leaks. This kind of smear is much more effective when it is allow to boil up. Reid drop it on the front porch and lit it on fire. not too subtle.
 
2012-08-02 01:57:29 PM  

IlGreven: What good is the moral high ground when it's on a flimsy pedestal that's easily knocked over by the people on the moral low ground?


THIS. You know right happened after the Jon Stewart/Steven Colbert Let's-All-Get-Along-Thon Weekend? The Tea Party got elected into Congress. The moral high ground is really sweet and cute and all, but we've seen where the results lie.
 
2012-08-02 01:57:34 PM  

JustGetItRight: /See how easy it is to play that game.


Release the records. See how easy it is to win that game?
 
2012-08-02 01:57:42 PM  
i'm sure conservatives will see this and say "SEE, EVEN LIEBERAL JON LIEBOWITZ STEWART HATES OBAMA!"
 
2012-08-02 01:57:54 PM  
What did the Republicans do the last time they had the big chair?

Now tell me the ends don't justify the means.
 
2012-08-02 01:58:01 PM  
No wonder were losers.

When did that happen? News to me.
 
2012-08-02 01:59:06 PM  

urbangirl:
He's is repeating an unfounded and unsourced rumor. It's a cheap shot.




Aaaand that's different from the Republican game how?

WHAR BIRF CERTIFIKATE OBUMMER WHAR????
 
2012-08-02 01:59:53 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.


When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.
 
2012-08-02 02:00:20 PM  

qorkfiend: kapaso: The Repubs are counting on voter suppression in battle ground states

What do you propose the Democrats do about voter ID laws between now and November?


Destroy Romney and their suppression efforts won't be enough. If it becomes a tight a race the supreme court could be picking our next President and Roberts won't be on the other side of that vote.
 
2012-08-02 02:01:28 PM  

mrshowrules: vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Romney's tax returns. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.

It is lame/low-class to make up shiat you have no way of knowing is true as a sitting Senator. But seeing as tax policy is really an important issue in this election, I can understand why they want to force his hand.

However, pulling in Romney's dad the way he did is truly farking pathetic.


No, it was right on the money. The fabulously wealthy George Romney released 12 years of tax returns when he ran for President in 1968, claiming "One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show." I think George would be ashamed of his son.

Pathetic is claiming that Obama's father was really a Communist or something, or that he wasn't born in America.
 
2012-08-02 02:01:38 PM  

urbangirl: HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.

When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.


And when the media doesn't pick up on your story, leaving you looking like the guy standing on a street corner yelling at clouds? That's not exactly beneficial.
 
2012-08-02 02:02:51 PM  

qorkfiend: urbangirl: HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.

When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.

And when the media doesn't pick up on your story, leaving you looking like the guy standing on a street corner yelling at clouds? That's not exactly beneficial.


The media by law has to sell you advertising.
 
2012-08-02 02:03:16 PM  

kapaso: qorkfiend: kapaso: The Repubs are counting on voter suppression in battle ground states

What do you propose the Democrats do about voter ID laws between now and November?

Destroy Romney and their suppression efforts won't be enough. If it becomes a tight a race the supreme court could be picking our next President and Roberts won't be on the other side of that vote.


Very well. How do you propose to "destroy Romney"?

In any case, there's almost no chance the election ends in an electoral tie.
 
2012-08-02 02:03:59 PM  

urbangirl: He's is repeating an unfounded and unsourced rumor. It's a cheap shot.


Of course it's cheap. If you reduce or even remove the the cost of research by eliminating the labor, you can offer it at a much lower cost. Mitt Romney is a pioneer in this field. He would be the first to agree that a cheap shot is good enough if it sells. If not, leverage that farker to the gills, take the money and run.
 
2012-08-02 02:04:12 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: qorkfiend: urbangirl: HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.

When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.

And when the media doesn't pick up on your story, leaving you looking like the guy standing on a street corner yelling at clouds? That's not exactly beneficial.

The media by law has to sell you advertising.


Gonna need a citation on that law.
 
2012-08-02 02:04:12 PM  

urbangirl: HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.

When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.


They have been winning elections "on their level" very well. You wanna fight fair while the other guy shoves a broken bottle into your eye socket?
 
2012-08-02 02:08:06 PM  

qorkfiend: TrollingForColumbine: qorkfiend: urbangirl: HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.

When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.

And when the media doesn't pick up on your story, leaving you looking like the guy standing on a street corner yelling at clouds? That's not exactly beneficial.

The media by law has to sell you advertising.

Gonna need a citation on that law.


Link

basically if your opponent runs an ad you are guaranteed equal time at the same rate.
 
2012-08-02 02:08:46 PM  

kapaso: Exactly that sort of thing has kept Republicans in power for as long as I can remember. Politics is a street fight now, better get used to it. The Repubs are counting on voter suppression in battle ground states and Dems want to whine about speculation of Romney's tax returns?

No wonder were losers.



Nail+head=you.
 
2012-08-02 02:08:59 PM  

mcwehrle: urbangirl:
He's is repeating an unfounded and unsourced rumor. It's a cheap shot.



Aaaand that's different from the Republican game how?

WHAR BIRF CERTIFIKATE OBUMMER WHAR????


Yeah, it's a real dilemma for me over here. Part of me wants to jump up and go "HA! HOWZIT FEEL BIATCHES? And also, why do you hate America so much?" But another part of me realizes that that's a really loud way to say "BSABSVD."
 
2012-08-02 02:10:30 PM  

vpb: I think it is legitimate to speculate about Fast and Furious's email communications between the White House and AG. It's obvious that there is something damaging in them.


FTFY
 
2012-08-02 02:10:41 PM  

kapaso: urbangirl: HotWingConspiracy: The Romney campaign has adopted openly lying and editing tape as a campaign strategy, this is all fair game and legit.

When do that, you call them out. Loudly and repeatedly with concrete proof. You don't take the cheap and easy way out and stoop to their level.

They have been winning elections "on their level" very well. You wanna fight fair while the other guy shoves a broken bottle into your eye socket?


Or holds you down and cuts your hair?

And to be fair, I don't know if this is a Republican thing as much as Karl Rove thing. Remember the "What if John McCain had a black baby?" back in 2000? The Republican party could actually be a fair-fight party without people like Rove and Cheney who are more than happy to cannibalize their own before going after the opposition.
 
2012-08-02 02:12:17 PM  

qorkfiend: kapaso: qorkfiend: kapaso: The Repubs are counting on voter suppression in battle ground states

What do you propose the Democrats do about voter ID laws between now and November?

Destroy Romney and their suppression efforts won't be enough. If it becomes a tight a race the supreme court could be picking our next President and Roberts won't be on the other side of that vote.

Very well. How do you propose to "destroy Romney"?

In any case, there's almost no chance the election ends in an electoral tie.


It didn't end in electoral tie the last time the Supremes picked president either. As far as destroying Romney the tax issue is a good start. Is it a lie? Is it the truth?

It doesn't matter, haven't you learned anything from Republicans in the last 20 years? We better man up and start realizing high ideals don't mean a damn thing if we are marginalized.
 
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