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2012-08-02 05:22:03 PM  

StarshipAngel: Perhaps if Americans would embrace diesel engines in their cars, it could be done.


The problem isn't Americans, it's the corporations and regulations.
Most domestic brands as well as quite a few imports have European versions with a diesel available, but won't pass regulations here for one reason or another.
/loves my Cummins Dodge, it's just a bit big.
 
2012-08-02 05:31:04 PM  

Kurmudgeon: StarshipAngel: Perhaps if Americans would embrace diesel engines in their cars, it could be done.

The problem isn't Americans, it's the corporations and regulations.
Most domestic brands as well as quite a few imports have European versions with a diesel available, but won't pass regulations here for one reason or another.
/loves my Cummins Dodge, it's just a bit big.


So much this. Ford UK has the Focus Econectic, farkin' clean diesel that gets (depending on your source) between 67-87 mpg. Plus, it's CO2 emissions are low enough that it would pass California's emissions testing rules. But Ford doesn't want to market it here stateside due to the "unpopularity" of diesel engines. Sad.
 
2012-08-02 05:36:47 PM  

IvanTheSilent: dumbobruni: IvanTheSilent: dumbobruni: Noticeably F.A.T.: dumbobruni: has the IIHS tested any larger cars like this? oh no, of course not.

Testing larger cars against larger cars? They already do that, but it's just called 'testing'.

citation needed.

Why would we need to cite this? You've got the SMART, which is slightly smaller than your average teapartier on a mobility scooter, and then you've got stuff like the Escalade. It's pretty sensable to test to see how a SMART (or any sub-compact) would stand up to getting hit by something like a Escalade. How much sense would it make to have a special test to see how an Escalade stands up to an even larger vehicle?

congrats on agreeing with my original point.

the IIHS created a special test only for small cars, testing them against bigger vehicles in crash tests, as a way to argue that small cars are unsafe. that test against the Smart is a big reason why people shiat on the Smart's safety.

however, the IIHS has not subjected any car class above the subcompacts to a similar test.

the IIHS has also never tested the Escalade for anything...no offset crashes, nor side impacts. Odd, no?

I can see you're not getting the point. An Escalade is not a SMART. If you're in an Escalade and get hit by an International going 60, you stand a chance of surviving. If you're in a SMART and get hit by that same International going 60, you are well and truly farked. The reason why the IIHS tests sub-compacts against larger vehicles is because you are likely to encounter a vehicle larger than yours if you are driving a sub-compact. It's likely you will encounter people bigger than your SMART. It is possible, but unlikely, that you will encounter a vehicle larger than a full-sized SUV.

It's not some conspiracy, it's not some devious plot to say sub-compacts are more dangerous. Of course if you get hit by a vehicle larger than yours, you're screwed. It's just that if you're driving a SMART, a fattie in a hoverround is larger t ...


an escalade can survive against an international? what crash test data do you have to back this up?
the Escalade has not been tested by the IIHS, period. not for this test, not for anything

anything against an international, head on, is farked...including other internationals.

The Smart, Fit, and Yaris fair poorly in a test only done on those three cars. Poorly compared to what? Do we even know how an accord would fare against another accord?

here's the 1997-2003 ford f150, in an iihs test. what a deathtrap!

Link
 
2012-08-02 05:45:07 PM  
here's a european test of the Smart vs the E-Class

the Smart did much better against an E than a C.

what the hell?

Link
 
2012-08-02 06:14:29 PM  

dumbobruni: IvanTheSilent: dumbobruni: IvanTheSilent: dumbobruni: Noticeably F.A.T.: dumbobruni: Blah blah blah ...


Ford F-150 (2004-08) IIHS offset frontal. Link Looks pretty safe to me.

Here's a more realistic test. Mercedes E-Class versus SMART Fortwo, IIHS Link Jump to 2:50 for the test. I'd rather be in the E. The passengers in the SMART would survive, but they'd be pretty farked up.

Here's another test of the same type. Ford F-150 versus Honda Civic, IIHS. Link The Civic is a substantially larger vehicle than the SMART, and they ram it into a vehicle that is substantially larger than an E-Class. I'd rather be in the Civic hit by the truck than the SMART hit by a car.

Why can't you just admit the simple fact that the SMART, by nature of it's size, is more dangerous to be a passenger in than a larger car? Hell, it's easy to admit iit's safer to drive than to ride a motorcycle, right?
 
2012-08-02 06:30:29 PM  
"Troopers say the home and car belong to 49 year old David Wheaton, and because of this they say he'll be charged with DWI..."

I know what you are trying to say, but how did no one notice how poorly this sounds? You mean if he didn't own the home or car he wouldn't get a DWI? Why was he given a DWI instead of reckless endangerment? I can guess, but try to help a little; a more complex story and no one would have a chance.

"Just because you drive a smart car, it doesn't make you smart. Here's proof of that, and it's definitely not a smart move to..."

This isn't a good pun, one which was made twice. Plus, when you say, "Here's proof of that, and" you are suggesting what follows is not the proof. Learn to write.
 
2012-08-02 07:00:03 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: IvanTheSilent: It's just that if you're driving a SMART, a fattie in a hoverround is larger than you.

I'm pretty sure I could fark one up with my motorcycle.


Hell, I could probably fark up a Smart with my largeframe Vespa.
 
2012-08-02 07:34:14 PM  
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There are alternatives: meet the 1.3l IQ from Scion
 
2012-08-02 07:41:47 PM  

clear_prop: jaybeezey: Millennium: What is it about Smart cars that inspires so much hatred, anyway?

For me it's their poor price to performance ratio. You can get a lot more car for the money with a Chevy Spark or Ford Fiesta.

For the size of the car, it gets really bad mileage. The Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit and a bunch of other cars in that class get about the same mileage and can hold four people and some stuff.

The only thing Smart cars do well is park in tight spaces, and that really isn't an issue in the US the way it is in Europe.


The European version originally was much lighter and was powered by a slightly less then 500cc engine. What you got out of it for about half the cost of the US version was nearly double the mileage, and a vehicle that was uniquely adapted for crowded, minimalist parking conditions.Made sense in Europe- not so much here.
 
2012-08-02 07:45:53 PM  

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There are alternatives: meet the 1.3l IQ from Scion


It looks like an xA got squished a bit.
 
2012-08-02 07:57:41 PM  
 
2012-08-02 09:57:40 PM  

dumbobruni: cruise control isn't standard in many cars. neither are Sirius radios...heck, that's an option on Mercedes.


Dude, have you ever seen the option lists on German cars (particularly BMW and Mercedes)?

Damn, it's INSANE. Everything is an option. What's more, it's hard to tell what options include others and what precludes other things. When we bought my wife's car one look at the BMW and Mercedes option lists turned her right off... sure, you can get EXACTLY what you want, but you're going to be ordering it.

The Japanese automakers are easier to deal with- you pick the colors, and then there's maybe a couple option packages and you're done. American automakers seem to be in between the two. Stuff that's standard on every Infiniti G37x is an additional option on the 3 series and C class.
 
2012-08-03 01:18:28 AM  

MaxxLarge: Oh. My. God. I was watching this, and thought to myself, "Needs moar Yakety Sax." Then I saw this:

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Well-played, Jalopnik. Well. Played.


I was already listening to SomaFM's Secret Agent stream, so I watched it backed by Ursula 1000's "Graveyard Stomp." Which wasn't bad, but was a little weird.
 
2012-08-03 01:21:00 AM  

natazha: Saw a Smart car the other day with a windup key, like they used to put on VW Bugs. My wife is too young to remember the original Bug, but we both LOL.

The only person I know that had a Smart car got rid of it because it couldn't accelerate on left turns.


My father went to an engineering school at one point. A guy he knew there put a steam engine in the front of a Bug, and took out the regular motor in the rear. A steam engine takes awhile to heat up, but is nearly silent once it gets going. He put a clockwork in the rear, with a huge key sticking out. He'd pull into gas stations and ask them to wind him up.
 
2012-08-03 01:23:25 AM  

dofus: Millennium: What is it about Smart cars that inspires so much hatred, anyway?

Same as the Prius I guess.

There's one around here that's pink and white with touches of purple I think. Looks like a giant tenny shoe.


In '70s CB chatter, truckers used to refer to Bugs as "pregnant roller skates."

/it was a different time. pot was cheap.
 
2012-08-03 04:56:12 AM  
youtube for SMART Diablo, eg Link

want want want.
 
2012-08-03 10:21:36 AM  
Right as I clicked on the "play this in the background," I had a feeling of what song it was going to be before the page actually loaded and I was right!
 
2012-08-03 03:34:58 PM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Right as I clicked on the "play this in the background," I had a feeling of what song it was going to be before the page actually loaded and I was right!


"Yakkity Sax" makes anything funnier. [Caution: you may be ashamed of yourself.]
 
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