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(NBC Olympics)   Olympic boxing match fixed. Commentators: "[The ref] should be eliminated from the Olympics, immediately... Everybody here should look at themselves and realize why this sport is considered a joke at this point"   ( nbcolympics.com) divider line
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2012-08-02 02:15:52 PM  
And it looks like Ukraine/Great Britain has gone to another controversial result.
 
2012-08-02 02:16:00 PM  
Boxing? FIXED?!

Next, they be telling us that the White Sox threw the 1919 World Series!
 
2012-08-02 02:21:14 PM  

EyeballKid: Roy Jones Jr. from 1988 just sent a postcard from Seoul that reads, "No farking shiat!"


The landed punches in that fight were 84 to 15 for Jones. Jones still lost.

Even the Korean guy was shocked, and apologized to Jones afterward.
 
2012-08-02 02:29:23 PM  

Ishkur: EyeballKid: Roy Jones Jr. from 1988 just sent a postcard from Seoul that reads, "No farking shiat!"

The landed punches in that fight were 84 to 15 for Jones. Jones still lost.

Even the Korean guy was shocked, and apologized to Jones afterward.


Biggest ripoff I ever witnessed in the olympics.
 
2012-08-02 02:29:29 PM  

Captain Steroid: Boxing? FIXED?!

Next, they be telling us that the White Sox threw the 1919 World Series!


Oh, hogwash. That's about as likely as Michael Schumacher deliberately trying to crash into Jacques Villeneuve in order to prevent the Canadien to get the last point he needs to win the Formula One Drivers' Championship.
 
2012-08-02 02:33:51 PM  

King Something: Captain Steroid: Boxing? FIXED?!

Next, they be telling us that the White Sox threw the 1919 World Series!

Oh, hogwash. That's about as likely as Michael Schumacher deliberately trying to crash into Jacques Villeneuve in order to prevent the Canadien to get the last point he needs to win the Formula One Drivers' Championship.


Or even Brent Farve taking a dive so Michael Strahan could wrap up the sack record.
 
2012-08-02 02:34:19 PM  
Roy Jones Jr.
Oscar de la Hoya

This isn't new people. It's boxing. The only sport that's more corrupt is figure skating.

(I'm sure people have pointed this out by now)
 
2012-08-02 02:35:37 PM  
I don't know if this has been covered in this thread but there was a report coming out earlier that outlined a corruption scheme favoring Azerbaijan, guaranteeing them 2 gold medals at least. The deal also included help for Azerbaijan in the World Series of Boxing and I can't recall if it was before the World Championships in Baku, Azerbaijan but it is pretty obvious the judging was biased there too.
 
2012-08-02 02:35:57 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Can we just switch it out with MMA already?


Implying that MMA won't become as corrupt as boxing if boxing finally cedes way?
 
2012-08-02 02:37:20 PM  
Having now watched the bout, that is the biggest pile of horseshiat in a sport that is predominantly horseshiat to begin with.
 
2012-08-02 02:37:53 PM  
"In December last year, an AIBA-appointed investigation committee dismissed allegations that Azerbaijan was promised two boxing gold medals the London Olympics in exchange for a $10-million loan to the sport's ruling body. "

Nice way to dispel any doubt about suspicions that Azerbaijan would be unfairly favored, ref.
 
2012-08-02 02:39:17 PM  

degenerate-afro: This isn't new people. It's boxing. The only sport that's more corrupt is figure skating.


Thank you!

/anyone else remember the pairs incident in 2002?
 
2012-08-02 02:39:18 PM  

MaxxLarge: King Something: Captain Steroid: Boxing? FIXED?!

Next, they be telling us that the White Sox threw the 1919 World Series!

Oh, hogwash. That's about as likely as Michael Schumacher deliberately trying to crash into Jacques Villeneuve in order to prevent the Canadien to get the last point he needs to win the Formula One Drivers' Championship.

Or even Brent Farve taking a dive so Michael Strahan could wrap up the sack record.


MaxxLarge: King Something: Captain Steroid: Boxing? FIXED?!

Next, they be telling us that the White Sox threw the 1919 World Series!

Oh, hogwash. That's about as likely as Michael Schumacher deliberately trying to crash into Jacques Villeneuve in order to prevent the Canadien to get the last point he needs to win the Formula One Drivers' Championship.

Or even Brent Farve taking a dive so Michael Strahan could wrap up the sack record.


Watching that game was the day I started disliking Favre...it never got better after that.....though I felt slightly sorry for him as the Saints punished him in that NFC title game....
 
2012-08-02 02:42:24 PM  

AngryPoet:
Watching that game was the day I started disliking Favre...it never got better after that.....though I felt slightly sorry for him as the Saints punished him in that NFC title game....


Watching that game knowing about the bounty scandal puts it in a whole new light.
 
2012-08-02 02:43:59 PM  

Boeheimian Rhapsody: FTA: "The International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) responded to Mazaheri's allegations..."


AIBA?

[markontheworld.files.wordpress.com image 250x250]


Its like the WGA - the World Canadian Bureau.
 
2012-08-02 02:47:34 PM  

ISO15693: "In December last year, an AIBA-appointed investigation committee dismissed allegations that Azerbaijan was promised two boxing gold medals the London Olympics in exchange for a $10-million loan to the sport's ruling body. "

Nice way to dispel any doubt about suspicions that Azerbaijan would be unfairly favored, ref.


Thanks for that, that is what I was referencing. But shiat like this happens internally also, during Mexican nationals Diego de la Hoya (Oscar's nephew) was blatantly favored against current Olympian Oscar Valdez. It was an absolute robbery and his teammates in the crowd, myself included, couldn't help feeling ashamed and sorry for Valdez who had rightfully won the fight and it wasn't even close. Not saying he isn't extremely talented, because he really is, but his pedigree certainly played a part when things got tight a few times.
 
2012-08-02 02:47:56 PM  

SlothB77: First the Azerbaijan guy tackles the japanese guy like he was a defensive end sacking a quarterback. Then the japanese guy knocked down the azerbaijan guy six times. Six times. The ref doesn't even give the Azerbaijan guy a standing 8 count once. The Azerbajian fighter can barely stand while propping himself on to the rope as the ref raises his hand as the victor.


That's not just on the ref though, the guys at the scoring table called that round "a draw" which means either:
a) they are blind/corrupt
b) Olympic boxing's scoring system needs a massive overhaul
c)They need to rename the sport Olympic Tag
 
2012-08-02 02:48:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: AngryPoet:
Watching that game was the day I started disliking Favre...it never got better after that.....though I felt slightly sorry for him as the Saints punished him in that NFC title game....

Watching that game knowing about the bounty scandal puts it in a whole new light.


No doubt, I could not believe there were no penalties called on some of those hits...
//I cease threadjack...
 
2012-08-02 02:51:03 PM  
One word, people: Coulibay.
 
2012-08-02 02:51:18 PM  

NutznGum: Boeheimian Rhapsody: FTA: "The International Amateur Boxing Association (AIBA) responded to Mazaheri's allegations..."


AIBA?

[markontheworld.files.wordpress.com image 250x250]

Its like the WGA - the World Canadian Bureau.


And like the WGA, i'm sure they're driven by a need for more money...
 
2012-08-02 02:52:28 PM  
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.
 
2012-08-02 02:55:24 PM  

NutznGum: violentsalvation: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: scottydoesntknow: Can we just switch it out with MMA already?

The less MMA events in the world, the better.

Fastest growing sport in the world.

Justin Beiber: fastest selling albums in the world.


Win.
 
2012-08-02 02:55:25 PM  

DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.


I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice
 
2012-08-02 02:57:16 PM  

scottydoesntknow: DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.

I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice


Nope. 1972.

Link
 
2012-08-02 02:59:29 PM  

scottydoesntknow: DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.

I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice


No it was '72. Doug Collins was on the team. Every member of that team has it in their wills that their descendents are never allowed to collect those silver medals.

Part 1 Link
Part 2 Link
 
2012-08-02 03:00:27 PM  

DrZiffle: scottydoesntknow: DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.

I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice

Nope. 1972.

Link


Ahhh you're right. The whole clock-stoppage issue
 
2012-08-02 03:00:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.

I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice


there were no '82 games. winter and summer used to be in the same year. then the ioc switched up the winter so that they could have a more regular schedule of bribe money flowing into their bank accounts, rather than just the large lump sums every four.
 
2012-08-02 03:02:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.

I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice


'76 in Montreal. The US boycotted Moscow '80 (after the Miracle on Ice in Lake Placid '80).
 
2012-08-02 03:03:13 PM  

Crewmannumber6: scottydoesntknow: DrZiffle: Why hasn't anyone mentioned the basketball finals, where the gold was given to the Soviets 9was it '72?). American team never accepted the silver medals.

I think you mean '82. It was the Summer Olympics after the Miracle on Ice

No it was '72. Doug Collins was on the team. Every member of that team has it in their wills that their descendents are never allowed to collect those silver medals.

Part 1 Link
Part 2 Link


Or what he said
 
2012-08-02 03:05:59 PM  

violentsalvation: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: scottydoesntknow: Can we just switch it out with MMA already?

The less MMA events in the world, the better.

Fastest growing sport in the world.


You may want to check that again. It isn't 2008 anymore.

PPV buyrates are down.
TUF ratings are down.
Attendance (outside of Brazil and Canada) is a struggle.
 
2012-08-02 03:07:54 PM  

howdyyall9999: I do like listening to Bob Poppa call a fight. He has become totally disgusted with the sport...


I love it when you call me Bob Poppa!

assets.rollingstone.com
 
2012-08-02 03:11:53 PM  
After it comes out that BBC did an expose last year on Azerbaijan paying off the Olympic boxing committee and the general scorn because of the video, the AIBA has reversed the decision.

BBC article on corruption.

Decision reversed by AIBA.
 
2012-08-02 03:12:59 PM  

Crewmannumber6: One word, people: Coulibay.


What? I hope you're not implying what I think you're implying. Because if so, we have a serious problem.

Personally, I believe these commentators are just ignorant blowhards airing sour grapes because their favored fighter couldn't win on the merits. It's sad that they would attack the honor of an official just because they cannot accept the reality of the situation.
 
2012-08-02 03:17:48 PM  

Koman Coulibaly: Crewmannumber6: One word, people: Coulibay.

What? I hope you're not implying what I think you're implying. Because if so, we have a serious problem.

Personally, I believe these commentators are just ignorant blowhards airing sour grapes because their favored fighter couldn't win on the merits. It's sad that they would attack the honor of an official just because they cannot accept the reality of the situation.


Just pointing out blatant corruption in international sports. If a fighter is knocked down, he gets a standing 8 count - period. Tell you what. I have 3 nephews and a niece who fight internationally in Europe. I'll back off until I get their reaction.
 
2012-08-02 03:19:55 PM  

Moopy Mac: After it comes out that BBC did an expose last year on Azerbaijan paying off the Olympic boxing committee and the general scorn because of the video, the AIBA has reversed the decision.

Decision reversed by AIBA.


my favorite part of that article: "Japanese officials marched to the competition office with the 500 US dollars needed to lodge an appeal." so to appeal the decision caused by a $10mil bribe one still needs to bring cash. i would think that the aiba might want to limit the appearance of cash being flashed.
 
2012-08-02 03:20:29 PM  

Koman Coulibaly: Personally, I believe these commentators are just ignorant blowhards airing sour grapes because their favored fighter couldn't win on the merits. It's sad that they would attack the honor of an official just because they cannot accept the reality of the situation.


even tho you're obviously trolling, I'll respond anyway

FTFA - After deliberating for over an hour, AIBA said that under its rules, the referee should have given the Azerbaijani fighter "at least" three standing counts which would have resulted in the contest being stopped.
 
2012-08-02 03:29:20 PM  

Koman Coulibaly: Crewmannumber6: One word, people: Coulibay.

What? I hope you're not implying what I think you're implying. Because if so, we have a serious problem.

Personally, I believe these commentators are just ignorant blowhards airing sour grapes because their favored fighter couldn't win on the merits. It's sad that they would attack the honor of an official just because they cannot accept the reality of the situation.


You are my absolute favorite person on this whole site.
 
2012-08-02 03:30:13 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Mr. Coffee Nerves: It's the Olympics and the judging has always been corrupt as fark.

FTFY

It's just another reason that the treatment of the games as a quasi-religious experience is really frickin' annoying, but also, oddly appropriate.


Hell, the 1908 games in London are why there are international judges instead of host country judges; the Brits screwed the US out of track medals. Cheating is as much a part of the Olympics as uniforms.
 
2012-08-02 03:36:54 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Koman Coulibaly: Personally, I believe these commentators are just ignorant blowhards airing sour grapes because their favored fighter couldn't win on the merits. It's sad that they would attack the honor of an official just because they cannot accept the reality of the situation.

even tho you're obviously trolling, I'll respond anyway

FTFA - After deliberating for over an hour, AIBA said that under its rules, the referee should have given the Azerbaijani fighter "at least" three standing counts which would have resulted in the contest being stopped.


Of course he's trolling! Please go look up his fark handle.

/Good job, Koman. Best troll on fark.
 
2012-08-02 03:51:24 PM  
This is shocking! The IOC is such an incredibly open and honest organization, I cannot believe they would tolerate any sort of corruption.

/yawn
//fark the Olympics
 
2012-08-02 03:58:16 PM  
The other results are so brutally bad they're not even focusing on the Savon/Joshua fight that was a questionable case of home cooking.

And that wouldn't be so bad except they spent the first two rounds talking about how Joshua had been screwed out of the world amateur tltle last year by Azerbaijan judges who awarded a fight he'd clearly won to a local opponent.
 
2012-08-02 03:59:21 PM  
I love Teddy Atlas and I don't understand all the hate he gets, but it was funny to hear him take five minutes to say the name of a country.

Teddy: Aze...Aze...Az...Azer...A...Aze...A
Cohost: Azerbaijan.
Teddy: Thank you.
 
2012-08-02 04:09:57 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-02 04:14:38 PM  

Moopy Mac: violentsalvation: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: scottydoesntknow: Can we just switch it out with MMA already?

The less MMA events in the world, the better.

Fastest growing sport in the world.

You may want to check that again. It isn't 2008 anymore.

PPV buyrates are down.
TUF ratings are down.
Attendance (outside of Brazil and Canada) is a struggle.


This just in: the world is a big place.
 
2012-08-02 04:26:06 PM  
I was expecting Teddy Atlas to just get in the ring and lay down some whoopass with the way the refs were going. I
 
2012-08-02 04:34:55 PM  
As someone said regarding the IOC's failure to properly and publically memorialize the Munich 11, the IOC is the UN of sports.
 
2012-08-02 04:36:03 PM  
The scoring in Olympic boxing makes the event a complete joke. First of all in order to score a point you have to hit your opponent with the white part of the glove, and 2 of the 3 judges have to press a button within something like a second to register the point. If 2 of the 3 judges don't press the button within that second the point doesn't register. And it doesn't matter if you threw a power punch or just reached out and lightly touched the person with the white part of the glove, it can be scored a point. Also if you knock somebody down, but it isn't with the white part of the glove, it doesn't count in the scoring.

Also because of the rule that 2 of the three judges have to press a button for each punch in order to register a point, some fighters often don't get points registered. For example if a fighter lands a 5 punch flurry all with the white part of the glove, often only 1 or 2 points will be registered because the judges can't press their buttons fast enough to register the points. I remember last Olympics this one American lost big on points and when they tallied up the total punches, he landed something like 3 times as many punches as the other guy and twice as many punches with the white of the glove.

These rules also make it possible to have blatant corruption by the judges and have it all explained away by the rules. I remember some boxing commentator saying last Olympics after an American fighter lost on points even though he knocked the other guy down in every round and landed more punches, "If you are an American boxer in the Olympics you have to knock your opponent out to win. Even if you out box him, you will lose."
 
2012-08-02 04:38:34 PM  

ongbok: The scoring in Olympic boxing makes the event a complete joke. First of all in order to score a point you have to hit your opponent with the white part of the glove, and 2 of the 3 judges have to press a button within something like a second to register the point. If 2 of the 3 judges don't press the button within that second the point doesn't register. And it doesn't matter if you threw a power punch or just reached out and lightly touched the person with the white part of the glove, it can be scored a point. Also if you knock somebody down, but it isn't with the white part of the glove, it doesn't count in the scoring.

Also because of the rule that 2 of the three judges have to press a button for each punch in order to register a point, some fighters often don't get points registered. For example if a fighter lands a 5 punch flurry all with the white part of the glove, often only 1 or 2 points will be registered because the judges can't press their buttons fast enough to register the points. I remember last Olympics this one American lost big on points and when they tallied up the total punches, he landed something like 3 times as many punches as the other guy and twice as many punches with the white of the glove.

These rules also make it possible to have blatant corruption by the judges and have it all explained away by the rules. I remember some boxing commentator saying last Olympics after an American fighter lost on points even though he knocked the other guy down in every round and landed more punches, "If you are an American boxer in the Olympics you have to knock your opponent out to win. Even if you out box him, you will lose."


You haven't been watching have you? There is no 'white part of the glove' this year
 
2012-08-02 04:46:34 PM  
In UFC alone, the current roster lineup features fighters from the following nations:

Afghanistan
Armenia
Australia
Bahamas
Belarus
Brazil
Bulgaria
Canada
China
Croatia
Cuba
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
DR Congo
El Salvador
Estonia
France
Germany
Haiti
Iceland
Iran
Italy
Japan
Mexico
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nigeria
Norway
Poland
Russia
South Korea
Sweden
Syria
United Kingdom
United States
Venezuela
Vietnam

Poking around the Bellator and Strikeforce rosters and the list of current champions from all MMA organizations, add:

Argentina
Belgium
Georgia
Guam
Ireland
Lithuania
Slovakia
South Africa
Tunisia

Other nations found poking around MMA Wikipedia pages:

Bahrain
Cameroon
Cote d'Ivoire
Finland
India
Indonesia
Malaysia
Philippines
Serbia
Spain
Sri Lanka
Switzerland
Thailand
Turkey
Ukraine

I think the Olympics would have no problem filling out a roster.
 
2012-08-02 04:49:09 PM  

the biggest redneck here: This just in: the world is a big place.


Not targeting you directly on this, but I find it amusing that...

Mixed Martial Arts is the fastest-growing individual vs. individual sport in the world: Don't you idiots realize that MMA is a worldwide phenomenon and it is growing beyond one or two countries?
Basketball is the fastest-growing team sport in the world: LOL YOU HAVE TO BRING IN EUROPE AND CHINA CUS NO ONE CARE'S ABUOT THUGBALL IN THE U.S.
 
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