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2012-08-02 08:53:21 AM  
2 votes:

penetrating_virga: Obama is involving us in another civil war? Gat dammit! Where is the outrage?! If a Republican had done this there would be a sea of accusations about being a war monger, funding the war machine and how the President was personally benefiting from defense contracts. Fncking hypocrites.


And which company that Obama worked at previously as CEO is getting no-bid contracts into Syria?

I know this may come as a shock to you, but both sides aren't the same. Grab some smelling salts, and be sure to fall near the fainting couch.
2012-08-02 08:12:28 AM  
2 votes:
I love it when news gets posted here before Limbaugh has a chance to tell his listeners what to think about it.
2012-08-02 04:56:30 AM  
2 votes:

randomjsa: Oh wait you mean they might actually win? Obama can now swoop in to offer them support so he can once again take credit for something he doesn't deserve.


Your bum sounds like it is bothering you. I'm sure you can find ointment for that. What would you have have Obama do exactly anyways? It is an extremely volatile situation with potential for sectarian conflict and ethnic cleansing, among other geo-political ramifications like massive numbers of refugees and the de-stabilization of the entire region. Assad is a brutal tyrant who is now a war-criminal but the rebels have indicated that the Alawites are going to face terrible consequences for what he has done, once he is gone. You don't seem to have any idea of what is going on there (nor do I really, for that matter) so you should probably stick to threads about where the microfilm of Obama's birth certificate is.
2012-08-02 02:35:15 AM  
2 votes:

SN1987a goes boom: jaytkay:
Why not? They'd sell weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.


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2012-08-02 02:21:21 AM  
2 votes:
With that many intricate details, my guess is that this was probably a fake leak meant to flush out the leaker.
2012-08-02 01:53:12 AM  
2 votes:

Team Coors Light: It's okay though...all you lefties can make Fight Club jokes all you want...If it was a "Republican" in Office and the same article came out, you would all be crying your liberal, butt-hurt tears

...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK


Team Coors Light: grow up


Physician, heal thyself.

Oh, and it's laughable that you think that the only 2 options a President has in dealing with a country are "blow them up" or "ignore them".
2012-08-02 01:52:15 AM  
2 votes:
Yeah, the providing non-lethal support ain't really news. The command center in Turkey is new to me, I suppose, but not surprising either. If we armed the rebels, and what resulted from the rubble attacked the US after Assad was overthrown, well... that would suck. Or, you know, those who 'won' could turn and attack the warring factions in their formerly one-goal-minded ranks with something like this:

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This is the best of a bad situation. Sucks but true. The Syrian ex-pats and the now thoroughly pissed off Turks are stepping up. When and-I-don't-mean-if Assad's human rights violations become impossible to ignore, the US giving more support *with* a coalition who have all thrown in their support both morally and with money I think will become more likely.

But... yeah.

And douchebag anything-Obama-does-sucks twits, the world is a complicated place. And Bush never did much to help the people of North Korea even after meeting with the author of Aquariums of Pyongyang, did he? And they were 1/3rd of the AXIS OF MOTHERF--KING EVIL!. This isn't a right vs wrong thing, this is a 'hold off lethal weapon support, but help out in any other way possible be it communications or tactical via Turkey". That's different. Christ.
2012-08-02 01:46:17 AM  
2 votes:

Team Coors Light: Do you know everything? Do you have the Intel? Are you Kaiser Soyze?


And that is exactly why your last post was Down's Syndrome stupid.
2012-08-02 12:44:32 AM  
2 votes:

SN1987a goes boom: jaytkay: Republicans joining Iran in support of Assad regime in 3...2...1...

Why not? They'd sell weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.


They'd sell their mother to a pimp if it meant a few extra dollars.
2012-08-02 12:38:18 AM  
2 votes:

jaytkay: Republicans joining Iran in support of Assad regime in 3...2...1...


Why not? They'd sell weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.
2012-08-02 02:48:56 PM  
1 votes:
I can pretty much sum up the opposition to this in two ways.

One group's the Fark Libertarians who are non-interventionist as a rule, and actually mean it. Debate them however you want. I could care less.

The other group are Fark Conservatives who just don't like it because Obama's doing it. They're suddenly "non-interventionalist" after 10 years of being all for two, trillion dollar wars.
2012-08-02 02:32:22 PM  
1 votes:

penetrating_virga: Oh yeah... all of the world's problems started in 2000.


Naw. They started 1/20/1981. They just didn't come to a head until 11/2000
2012-08-02 11:43:13 AM  
1 votes:

unexplained bacon: I alone am best: We should just stop messing with other countries because it never works out in our favor.

I'd call that a fair point, but it's got a funny twist coming from the same people who shouted down opposition to the Iraq war with stuff like, 'Freedom isn't free!!'


To tell you the truth I wasn't really politically active when that started and just supported it because I knew people going, personally I wasn't supporting the idea so much as I was supporting the troops that were tasked with it. Now that I know more, it was a pretty bad idea.
2012-08-02 11:16:23 AM  
1 votes:

qorkfiend: unexplained bacon: I alone am best: We should just stop messing with other countries because it never works out in our favor.

I'd call that a fair point, but it's got a funny twist coming from the same people who shouted down opposition to the Iraq war with stuff like, 'Freedom isn't free!!'

Or who insist that we're currently not doing enough to aid the Syrian rebels.


it makes sense, if we can topple assad with just a little push then do it.
unless Obama is doing it, then it's the same thing as invading Iraq, and why the hell aren't the libs mad?
2012-08-02 11:11:46 AM  
1 votes:

I alone am best: We should just stop messing with other countries because it never works out in our favor.


I'd call that a fair point, but it's got a funny twist coming from the same people who shouted down opposition to the Iraq war with stuff like, 'Freedom isn't free!!'
2012-08-02 11:08:22 AM  
1 votes:

Ned Stark: That's a bit stretched, but I'm gonna go with "no."


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2012-08-02 11:03:34 AM  
1 votes:
Reagan having the CIA help rebels: Democrats scream it is bad, Republicans scream it is good.

Obama having the CIA help rebels: Republicans scream it is bad, Democrats scream it is good.

Just more of the same shiat.
2012-08-02 10:39:26 AM  
1 votes:

Ned Stark:

Awwwww....SOMEONE wants attention.

birchman: He did something they wanted, and they still just can't bring themselves to give him credit. Let's find some strawman to attack instead!


Well, I heard, from an e-mail my great-uncle sent me, that Obama is looking to steal our guns. It looks legitimate.
2012-08-02 09:52:59 AM  
1 votes:
MugzyBrown:



if you learned anything from your years supporting a bad idea (invading iraq) I'd hope you learned that you are terrible at reading these things. You should have learned that if you're for something the right answer is to be against it...or at least you should have learned to stop talking, you likely have the wrong idea again.
2012-08-02 09:08:17 AM  
1 votes:

MugzyBrown: I am willing to admit something I supported was wrong. I'm sure you're willing to admit that if McCain were in office today involving us in Lybia and Syria you'd be yelling about PNAC and such.


It totally seems fair and reasonable to ask someone to admit a moral failing for doing something in an imaginary reality because you admitted to being proven incorrect in the real world.
2012-08-02 08:58:07 AM  
1 votes:

beta_plus: I'm glad Obama is keeping us out of wars that are not in our interest, just like he promised in 2008.

Go Hopey McChange!


I must have missed the involvement of American armed forces in hostile actions. When did that happen?

I support Obama, but I'd be against an open war with Syria.

Not entirely against providing the rebels TD same kind of intel tools the Russians have been supplying Assad with for years though.
2012-08-02 08:55:23 AM  
1 votes:

penetrating_virga: Obama is involving us in another civil war? Gat dammit! Where is the outrage?! If a Republican had done this there would be a sea of accusations about being a war monger, funding the war machine and how the President was personally benefiting from defense contracts. Fncking hypocrites.


well tell us, IS the president benefiting from the defense contracts? 'cause in the case of Cheney that was an actual fact. back it up or admit there's a difference.

Aid to rebels fighting Assad isn't the same thing as invading Iraq, there's a difference.
Aid to rebels and tactical strikes is the way we should be doing things and I've been saying that for years.

this invasion/country building neocon crap was idiotic and the people crying about this were all for that. I have no respect for the opinion of someone who would cheer the iraq invasion yet cry about aid to anti-assad rebels, you've all gone mad.
2012-08-02 08:51:31 AM  
1 votes:
So you suggest we do nothing about Syria?
seriously, I have no doubt your objections here are purely partisan but I'd like to know what you want to see happen.


I'd like to see the Syrian people figure out what they want. Who are we to decide who rules their country? What if we help the rebels and the rebels are worse than Assad? I mean there's never been atrocities committed by victorious rebels before. But that's cool because there were no American soldiers in harms way.

Wyalt Derp: Not sure if trolling or actually retarted.


You're the retard who think being involved in a war is fine as long as there are no American lives at stake.

Hobodeluxe: because we think that eventually the rebels will win and we want to be on the good side of those who take power?
we want to be able to influence their direction? to be able to put in pro-Israel pro-US people in power and lessen Iran's influence?


So you want a puppet regime in Syria. That worked well in Iran and Chile.
2012-08-02 08:49:22 AM  
1 votes:
Obama is involving us in another civil war? Gat dammit! Where is the outrage?! If a Republican had done this there would be a sea of accusations about being a war monger, funding the war machine and how the President was personally benefiting from defense contracts. Fncking hypocrites.
2012-08-02 08:49:02 AM  
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: MugzyBrown: unexplained bacon: I'll put you down for, 'Do nothing about Syria'...got it.

Why should the US do something about Syria?

because we think that eventually the rebels will win and we want to be on the good side of those who take power?
we want to be able to influence their direction? to be able to put in pro-Israel pro-US people in power and lessen Iran's influence?


^^^this

it's silly to even explain this, these guys know this. Their objections are only because it's Obama, that's it.

clearly the GOPers around here aren't a bunch of doves, they cheered on invading and occupying Iraq just a few years ago.

Now they're pretending they have a point when they whine about how Obama is helping Syrian rebels against a regime we've been at odds with for years. they're ridiculous.
2012-08-02 08:00:07 AM  
1 votes:

keylock71: HotWingConspiracy: keylock71: .. And now the GOP , which has been screaming that Obama is ignoring Syria will seamlessly switch to calling him a warmonger.

It's the Gingrich/Libya shuck and jive.

"We would do the opposite of Obama! What did he do today? Yes, the opposite of that. And if that changes tomorrow, we would do the opposite of whatever that is."

Heh... Obama just needs to come out against drinking bleach and we'll probably raise the collective IQ of the country in a few minutes.

"0bama doesn't want me to drink bleach!!!!! Goddamn Socialists ain't gonna tell me what to do!!!!"

*Chug*

*Thud*


Wait, let me establish a Christian bleach factory first. I want to be prepped to profit when the president suggests we boycott drinking it.
2012-08-02 07:56:15 AM  
1 votes:
The problem is that if you start with the assumption that Obama can't do anything right you'll never be able to understand why he makes the choices he makes.

I've said this before, Obama has a devious Syria strategy. He's been keeping us out of the limelight, so that Assad can't use our involvement to rally support. At the same time, we've had people on the ground building relationships, advising, and feeding equipment to key groups (and figuring out who's who in the opposition).

The fact that this has finally come out publicly is deliberate, and it's not for the benefit of Obama's electoral reputation. It's a sign that they think Assad is almost gone. This way, as Assad falls from power, we'll be able to remind the Syrians that the US has been helping them continuously for the past year.
2012-08-02 07:28:18 AM  
1 votes:

shotglasss: And this is just another attempt by Obama to create a tough guy image, just in time for the election.


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2012-08-02 07:11:23 AM  
1 votes:
So he's Dictatorbama again this week. Empty suit apologist must be next week, I lose track sometimes.
2012-08-02 02:06:48 AM  
1 votes:

randomjsa: Oh wait you mean they might actually win? Obama can now swoop in to offer them support so he can once again take credit for something he doesn't deserve.


Funny, I don't remember him taking credit for Egypt.

But if you go into it assuming that, well, you can bend quotes to whatever you want. Not Officially From The Obama Administration (a "Democratic Official" is cited)



Great news for the administration/president. People will remember , despite some fumbles yesterday, that the President played an excellent hand, walked the right line and that his statement last night was potentially decisive in bringing this issue to a close. The situation remains complicated and delicate going forward, but this is a huge affirmation of the President's leadership on the international stage.


Not the best thing, true. But also not the official administration line either.



THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, everybody. There are very few moments in our lives where we have the privilege to witness history taking place. This is one of those moments. This is one of those times. The people of Egypt have spoken, their voices have been heard, and Egypt will never be the same.


Yes, totally the equivalent of this:

impiousdigest.com
2012-08-02 01:48:50 AM  
1 votes:

Team Coors Light: Teufelaffe: Team Coors Light: Teufelaffe: Team Coors Light: MFAWG: Team Coors Light: cc_rider: Misleading news headline is misleading.

Eh...not really.

It's okay though...all you lefties can make Fight Club jokes all you want...If it was a "Republican" in Office and the same article came out, you would all be crying your liberal, butt-hurt tears.

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with the "actions taken" to this point, but in typical FARK fashion, you clowns make jokes about something that, if under the "other party" you would scream at the clouds about instead.

...but who are we kidding here...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK.

You sound concerned, and butthurt.

You can hear me?

We would try to explain to you what a "figure of speech" is, but that would really just be a waste of time since I doubt you'd get it.

Really...your mom. How about that. Your mom.

/grow up

I always love it when someone on Fark goes for a "your mom" insult followed by "grow up." It's one of the more entertaining forms of "No, YOU!"

Soooo....did you have some sort of meaningful counter-point to include anywhere...somewhere?

Just curious...


Counterpoint to what? You didn't say anything that deserved a "counter-point". He would be an idiot to take you seriously. Especially since you appear to be an election-time troll.
2012-08-02 01:26:28 AM  
1 votes:
So...just another one of those things that pretty much everyone besides al-Assad himself would approve of if not for Obama Derangement Syndrome?

Got it.

/off to the next thread
2012-08-02 01:01:37 AM  
1 votes:

SN1987a goes boom: jaytkay: Republicans joining Iran in support of Assad regime in 3...2...1...

Why not? They'd sell They have already sold weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.

2012-08-02 12:56:40 AM  
1 votes:
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2012-08-02 12:38:32 AM  
1 votes:
Apparently, Mitt Romney was briefed.
2012-08-02 12:36:57 AM  
1 votes:
Imagine what those plucky Al-Qaida fighters will be able to do with the U.S. on their team again.

/We're gettin' the Taliband back together!
2012-08-02 12:32:10 AM  
1 votes:
Republicans joining Iran in support of Assad regime in 3...2...1...
 
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