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2012-08-02 01:46:50 AM  

Teufelaffe: Team Coors Light: Teufelaffe: Team Coors Light: MFAWG: Team Coors Light: cc_rider: Misleading news headline is misleading.

Eh...not really.

It's okay though...all you lefties can make Fight Club jokes all you want...If it was a "Republican" in Office and the same article came out, you would all be crying your liberal, butt-hurt tears.

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with the "actions taken" to this point, but in typical FARK fashion, you clowns make jokes about something that, if under the "other party" you would scream at the clouds about instead.

...but who are we kidding here...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK.

You sound concerned, and butthurt.

You can hear me?

We would try to explain to you what a "figure of speech" is, but that would really just be a waste of time since I doubt you'd get it.

Really...your mom. How about that. Your mom.

/grow up

I always love it when someone on Fark goes for a "your mom" insult followed by "grow up." It's one of the more entertaining forms of "No, YOU!"


Soooo....did you have some sort of meaningful counter-point to include anywhere...somewhere?

Just curious...
 
2012-08-02 01:48:08 AM  

Team Coors Light: If your President truely cared about the "people" of Syria, a particular decision would have been made by now


Really. That's the one consideration? Necessary and sufficient?
 
2012-08-02 01:48:50 AM  

Team Coors Light: Teufelaffe: Team Coors Light: Teufelaffe: Team Coors Light: MFAWG: Team Coors Light: cc_rider: Misleading news headline is misleading.

Eh...not really.

It's okay though...all you lefties can make Fight Club jokes all you want...If it was a "Republican" in Office and the same article came out, you would all be crying your liberal, butt-hurt tears.

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with the "actions taken" to this point, but in typical FARK fashion, you clowns make jokes about something that, if under the "other party" you would scream at the clouds about instead.

...but who are we kidding here...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK.

You sound concerned, and butthurt.

You can hear me?

We would try to explain to you what a "figure of speech" is, but that would really just be a waste of time since I doubt you'd get it.

Really...your mom. How about that. Your mom.

/grow up

I always love it when someone on Fark goes for a "your mom" insult followed by "grow up." It's one of the more entertaining forms of "No, YOU!"

Soooo....did you have some sort of meaningful counter-point to include anywhere...somewhere?

Just curious...


Counterpoint to what? You didn't say anything that deserved a "counter-point". He would be an idiot to take you seriously. Especially since you appear to be an election-time troll.
 
2012-08-02 01:50:58 AM  

Team Coors Light: Soooo....did you have some sort of meaningful counter-point to include anywhere...somewhere?

Just curious...


Pfft, of course not. I don't know nearly enough about the situation in Syria to even have an opinion, much less post one.
 
2012-08-02 01:51:58 AM  

LordJiro: Sabyen91: Hmm, I wonder who on the Intelligence Committee would leak this.

/Bachmann is going to end up in Leavenworth.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. This comes out while she's doing McCarthy 2: Muslim Boogaloo, and the Republican party is in desperate need of a popularity boost? (or at least for Obama's popularity to dip below theirs)? This seems like the kind of thing a crazy, desperate person would pull.


Republicans certainly could be trying to embarrass Obama. It does put Obama in the awkward position of having to explain why the CIA is again backing Al Qaeda fighters, who could conceivably get their hands on nerve gas or whatever Assad's got. But I'll bet you dollars to donuts that no U.S. media sitting in the White House briefing room even brings Al Qaeda up when the Syria questions fly.
 
2012-08-02 01:52:15 AM  
Yeah, the providing non-lethal support ain't really news. The command center in Turkey is new to me, I suppose, but not surprising either. If we armed the rebels, and what resulted from the rubble attacked the US after Assad was overthrown, well... that would suck. Or, you know, those who 'won' could turn and attack the warring factions in their formerly one-goal-minded ranks with something like this:

disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com

This is the best of a bad situation. Sucks but true. The Syrian ex-pats and the now thoroughly pissed off Turks are stepping up. When and-I-don't-mean-if Assad's human rights violations become impossible to ignore, the US giving more support *with* a coalition who have all thrown in their support both morally and with money I think will become more likely.

But... yeah.

And douchebag anything-Obama-does-sucks twits, the world is a complicated place. And Bush never did much to help the people of North Korea even after meeting with the author of Aquariums of Pyongyang, did he? And they were 1/3rd of the AXIS OF MOTHERF--KING EVIL!. This isn't a right vs wrong thing, this is a 'hold off lethal weapon support, but help out in any other way possible be it communications or tactical via Turkey". That's different. Christ.
 
2012-08-02 01:53:12 AM  

Team Coors Light: It's okay though...all you lefties can make Fight Club jokes all you want...If it was a "Republican" in Office and the same article came out, you would all be crying your liberal, butt-hurt tears

...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK


Team Coors Light: grow up


Physician, heal thyself.

Oh, and it's laughable that you think that the only 2 options a President has in dealing with a country are "blow them up" or "ignore them".
 
2012-08-02 01:54:28 AM  
Oh wait you mean they might actually win? Obama can now swoop in to offer them support so he can once again take credit for something he doesn't deserve.
 
2012-08-02 01:57:19 AM  

Triumph: LordJiro: Sabyen91: Hmm, I wonder who on the Intelligence Committee would leak this.

/Bachmann is going to end up in Leavenworth.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. This comes out while she's doing McCarthy 2: Muslim Boogaloo, and the Republican party is in desperate need of a popularity boost? (or at least for Obama's popularity to dip below theirs)? This seems like the kind of thing a crazy, desperate person would pull.

Republicans certainly could be trying to embarrass Obama. It does put Obama in the awkward position of having to explain why the CIA is again backing Al Qaeda fighters, who could conceivably get their hands on nerve gas or whatever Assad's got. But I'll bet you dollars to donuts that no U.S. media sitting in the White House briefing room even brings Al Qaeda up when the Syria questions fly.


Maybe that's why it's taken so long to make a decision, compared to how quickly we went into Libya? A LOT of risk/reward analysis going on.
 
2012-08-02 01:57:26 AM  

Teufelaffe:
I always love it when someone on Fark goes for a "your mom" insult followed by "grow up." It's one of the more entertaining forms of "No, YOU!"


My balls. How about that. My balls.

/stay gold, Ponyboy
 
2012-08-02 02:02:39 AM  

Car_Ramrod: Oh, and it's laughable that you think that the only 2 options a President has in dealing with a country are "blow them up" or "ignore them".


I've spoken at some length, two different times, with a State Department Diplomat recruiter / foreign service officer iirc (who was still serving, and had served as our representative in some godawful places). Talking to him was incredibly illuminating about how much a goddamn tightrope walk diplomacy is, and with essentially lava pits and sharks both waiting for you on the bottom should you fall to one side or the other. I might take the Foreign Service Officer Test at some point still, but at its most complex the weight of what is on your shoulders... [low whistle]. And he wasn't POTUS for f--k's sake, just a Representative.

But like I said, the world is not black and white.
 
2012-08-02 02:05:02 AM  
secret support for secret muslins
 
2012-08-02 02:06:23 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Sabyen91: Hmm, I wonder who on the Intelligence Committee would leak this.

/Bachmann is going to end up in Leavenworth.

Nope. That would make him look strong just before the election. Right or wrong, strong.

She wouldn't do that. At least not on purpose.


Stop injecting logic into Sabyen's baseless hate filled conjecture!
 
2012-08-02 02:06:48 AM  

randomjsa: Oh wait you mean they might actually win? Obama can now swoop in to offer them support so he can once again take credit for something he doesn't deserve.


Funny, I don't remember him taking credit for Egypt.

But if you go into it assuming that, well, you can bend quotes to whatever you want. Not Officially From The Obama Administration (a "Democratic Official" is cited)



Great news for the administration/president. People will remember , despite some fumbles yesterday, that the President played an excellent hand, walked the right line and that his statement last night was potentially decisive in bringing this issue to a close. The situation remains complicated and delicate going forward, but this is a huge affirmation of the President's leadership on the international stage.


Not the best thing, true. But also not the official administration line either.



THE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, everybody. There are very few moments in our lives where we have the privilege to witness history taking place. This is one of those moments. This is one of those times. The people of Egypt have spoken, their voices have been heard, and Egypt will never be the same.


Yes, totally the equivalent of this:

impiousdigest.com
 
2012-08-02 02:08:43 AM  

I sound fat: Lenny_da_Hog: Sabyen91: Hmm, I wonder who on the Intelligence Committee would leak this.

/Bachmann is going to end up in Leavenworth.

Nope. That would make him look strong just before the election. Right or wrong, strong.

She wouldn't do that. At least not on purpose.

Stop injecting logic into Sabyen's baseless hate filled conjecture!


Are you serious? Lenny was being sarcastic.
 
2012-08-02 02:13:47 AM  
Sorry, could you repeat the article with the lat and long coordinates of the bases mentioned? Just, y'know. For posterity. And also, hand the Syrian opposition another big piece of ammo that they can use in propaganda?

/ the fark?
 
2012-08-02 02:15:00 AM  
Oh good, a new one.
 
2012-08-02 02:21:21 AM  
With that many intricate details, my guess is that this was probably a fake leak meant to flush out the leaker.
 
2012-08-02 02:26:42 AM  

iawai: Knight of the Woeful Countenance: This makes the third? fourth? high level security leak in the last four months...

When Obama promised transparency, he really meant that he would scapegoat whistleblowers.

When Obama promised a foreign policy of diplomacy, he really meant that if you got in the CIA's way he'd drone you without second thought.


When Obama said "Ogden memo," he really meant "Cole memo."
 
2012-08-02 02:35:15 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: jaytkay:
Why not? They'd sell weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.


www.seniorreligion.com

Approves.
 
2012-08-02 02:41:13 AM  

Team Coors Light: cc_rider: Misleading news headline is misleading.

Eh...not really.

It's okay though...all you lefties can make Fight Club jokes all you want...If it was a "Republican" in Office and the same article came out, you would all be crying your liberal, butt-hurt tears.

I am not saying that I agree or disagree with the "actions taken" to this point, but in typical FARK fashion, you clowns make jokes about something that, if under the "other party" you would scream at the clouds about instead.

...but who are we kidding here...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK.


Yeah, us libs always love murderous dictators. You sure got us pegged.
 
2012-08-02 02:48:49 AM  

Sabyen91: I sound fat: Lenny_da_Hog: Sabyen91: Hmm, I wonder who on the Intelligence Committee would leak this.

/Bachmann is going to end up in Leavenworth.

Nope. That would make him look strong just before the election. Right or wrong, strong.

She wouldn't do that. At least not on purpose.

Stop injecting logic into Sabyen's baseless hate filled conjecture!

Are you serious? Lenny was being sarcastic.


Not completely. She's a dolt, but she has handlers and GOP peers. She wouldn't do this on her own, unless she didn't stop to think of the election. But she is a dolt.
 
2012-08-02 02:50:39 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Sabyen91: I sound fat: Lenny_da_Hog: Sabyen91: Hmm, I wonder who on the Intelligence Committee would leak this.

/Bachmann is going to end up in Leavenworth.

Nope. That would make him look strong just before the election. Right or wrong, strong.

She wouldn't do that. At least not on purpose.

Stop injecting logic into Sabyen's baseless hate filled conjecture!

Are you serious? Lenny was being sarcastic.

Not completely. She's a dolt, but she has handlers and GOP peers. She wouldn't do this on her own, unless she didn't stop to think of the election. But she is a dolt.


Well, you're "at least on purpose" was certainly a...wait, no, that isn't a joke at all. *sigh*
 
2012-08-02 03:14:15 AM  

Sabyen91: Well, you're "at least on purpose" was certainly a...wait, no, that isn't a joke at all. *sigh*


Yeah. *sigh*
 
2012-08-02 03:16:20 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Sabyen91: Well, you're "at least on purpose" was certainly a...wait, no, that isn't a joke at all. *sigh*

Yeah. *sigh*


Oh, and I you'red instead of your'ed. whoops.
 
2012-08-02 03:27:31 AM  
War is the USA main export, it was before Obama, during and is going to be long after him.
 
2012-08-02 03:58:02 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Sabyen91: Republicans love ... bin Laden

To be fair to the Republicans, Reagan (PBUH) did suggest he was the moral equivalent of George Washington, and due to their tendency to support the Holy President in lockstep, they are forced to love Bin Laden.


Shiat, they've been doing that since Obama had him murdered and they were all about how wrong it was we killed him and how he should have been brought here for a fair trial. This after we spent years and a whole war to find him and, you know, kill him.
 
2012-08-02 04:45:02 AM  
GOP outrage in 4...3...2...
 
2012-08-02 04:56:30 AM  

randomjsa: Oh wait you mean they might actually win? Obama can now swoop in to offer them support so he can once again take credit for something he doesn't deserve.


Your bum sounds like it is bothering you. I'm sure you can find ointment for that. What would you have have Obama do exactly anyways? It is an extremely volatile situation with potential for sectarian conflict and ethnic cleansing, among other geo-political ramifications like massive numbers of refugees and the de-stabilization of the entire region. Assad is a brutal tyrant who is now a war-criminal but the rebels have indicated that the Alawites are going to face terrible consequences for what he has done, once he is gone. You don't seem to have any idea of what is going on there (nor do I really, for that matter) so you should probably stick to threads about where the microfilm of Obama's birth certificate is.
 
2012-08-02 05:14:32 AM  
I wonder what would it be like if a swarm of 600 or so US drones flew in from the sea and launched a number of high-accuracy airstrikes at planes, helicopters, artillery, radar and communications centers .... and then simply turned around and left.
 
2012-08-02 05:16:17 AM  
Ya know, at the end of WW2 we hanged a bunch of Germans and Japanese for acts of aggression. Remember when there was a big list of differences between the good guys and the bad guys? Now, we don't even pretend to be better, we just claim better motives for doing the same old things.
 
2012-08-02 05:18:40 AM  
www.titaniumteddybear.net

It never ceases to amaze me how the West has no farking clue about Middle-Eastern mentality.
 
2012-08-02 05:21:55 AM  
Took us long enough. Not that I'm happy with it though. Maybe the new regime won't be so friendly to Iran, and friendlier to us.

//Guessing that's what finally pushed them to aid.
 
2012-08-02 05:26:47 AM  

iawai: Knight of the Woeful Countenance: This makes the third? fourth? high level security leak in the last four months...

When Obama promised transparency, he really meant that he would scapegoat whistleblowers.

When Obama promised a foreign policy of diplomacy, he really meant that if you got in the CIA's way he'd drone you without second thought.


Actually, I'm sure that on Day One the CIA sat Obama down and told him how it was going to be.
 
2012-08-02 05:35:01 AM  
I AM The President Link
 
2012-08-02 05:45:51 AM  

Sergeant Grumbles: God dammit, Nappa. I read that as "Saiyan Rebels".


Support is over 9000!
 
2012-08-02 06:14:07 AM  
lh6.googleusercontent.com

TappingTheVein: www.titaniumteddybear.net

It never ceases to amaze me how the West has no farking clue about Middle-Eastern mentality.


Thanks it's very refreshing against the rampant derptitude of the masses.

/lh3.googleusercontent.com
//once again i am genius
 
2012-08-02 06:15:53 AM  

DrPainMD: Actually, I'm sure that on Day One the CIA sat Obama down and told him how it was going to be.


so.much.this.
 
2012-08-02 06:19:44 AM  
---Team Coors Light:--- ...but who are we kidding here...the thousands of people killed there thus far make no difference to you...as long as you can FARK.

/i'm at a loss for words, when did this become a party issue?
 
2012-08-02 06:26:37 AM  
Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.

The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.

White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.



Its almost as if he didn't want anyone to know.
...and they still don't know.

/That's some fine reportin there, Mark.
 
2012-08-02 06:57:00 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: jaytkay: Republicans joining Iran in support of Assad regime in 3...2...1...

Why not? They'd sell weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.


No need for that. Obama has already let the go nuclear, a few rifles aren't going to make much difference.

And this is just another attempt by Obama to create a tough guy image, just in time for the election.
 
2012-08-02 06:58:34 AM  

Gyrfalcon: SN1987a goes boom: jaytkay: Republicans joining Iran in support of Assad regime in 3...2...1...

Why not? They'd sell weapons to Iran if it meant achieving their goals.

They'd sell their mother to a pimp if it meant a few extra dollars.


Why do you hate the free market?
 
2012-08-02 07:01:47 AM  
This thread is another stellar example of why I'm glad our military and foreign policy is not directly controlled by the populace.
 
2012-08-02 07:09:35 AM  

randomjsa: Oh wait you mean they might actually win? Obama can now swoop in to offer them support so he can once again take credit for something he doesn't deserve.


oh, muffin.
 
2012-08-02 07:11:23 AM  
So he's Dictatorbama again this week. Empty suit apologist must be next week, I lose track sometimes.
 
2012-08-02 07:13:52 AM  
Listen to all you Neocon hipsters:

"I wanted to foster regime change in Syria before it was cool!"

So lame.
 
2012-08-02 07:22:58 AM  

Sergeant Grumbles: God dammit, Nappa. I read that as "Saiyan Rebels".


The State Department said on Wednesday the U.S. government had set aside a total of over $9000 million for "non-lethal" assistance to the Syrian opposition.
 
2012-08-02 07:25:23 AM  

Knight of the Woeful Countenance: This makes the third? fourth? high level security leak in the last four months...


Don't leak the information: Republicans scream that we're not doing enough to help Syria.
Leak the information: Republicans scream that we're leaking information.
 
2012-08-02 07:27:25 AM  

The Bestest: This thread is another stellar example of why I'm glad our military and foreign policy is not directly controlled by the populaceGOP.


Could you imagine the cluster fark we'd be in right now if those small dick chicken hawks were still in power?
 
2012-08-02 07:28:01 AM  
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/I blame rmoney
 
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