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2012-08-02 12:32:22 AM  
In other news, the wave of Nanny-State parenting spreads...
 
2012-08-02 02:26:55 AM  
"Judging from McDonald's response to similar health laws in the U.S. we'd expect the corporation to respond as it long has: it will fight tooth and nail to continue marketing to children," she said. "It will take every opportunity to blame parents for today's health epidemic. Marketing to kids is core to McDonald's brand and to its bottom line."

Ummmm... so?
 
2012-08-02 04:17:38 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: "Judging from McDonald's response to similar health laws in the U.S. we'd expect the corporation to respond as it long has: it will fight tooth and nail to continue marketing to children," she said. "It will take every opportunity to blame parents for today's health epidemic. Marketing to kids is core to McDonald's brand and to its bottom line."

Ummmm... so?


Yeah.

Just because McDonald's has done behavioral studies and determined how to bypass reason by going for the children's emotions, then designed ad campaigns and spent millions on them to make children feel unloved and resentful toward their parents if they don't get a happy meal doesn't mean anything.
 
2012-08-02 04:17:54 AM  
The Happy Meal toy is actually an attractive nuisance, as far as I'm concerned. My kid forever wants whatever the latest piece of shiat plastic garbage they're hawking. It would be cheaper to buy these things separately. Plus, since my kid can't eat all 20 McNuggets, I'd get a little bonus meal.

I welcome this kind of thing. But I live somewhere that believes in personal liberty, so I'm stuck buying Happy Meals for the time being.
 
2012-08-02 04:27:20 AM  
You have the freedom to be systematically manipulated by relentless marketeers!
 
2012-08-02 04:45:28 AM  
Parents, your kids aren't eating McDonald's Happy Meals because of the toys. They are eating the McDonald's Happy Meals because you make the choice to buy them for your kid to eat. Your kids aren't fat because McDonald's put toys in their happy meals. They are fat because of what you choose to feed them. Be an adult, stop catering to your children, take responsibility for your actions, and stop blaming everyone for your dumb choices and mistakes.
 
2012-08-02 05:08:43 AM  

Great Janitor: Parents, your kids aren't eating McDonald's Happy Meals because of the toys. They are eating the McDonald's Happy Meals because you make the choice to buy them for your kid to eat. Your kids aren't fat because McDonald's put toys in their happy meals. They are fat because of what you choose to feed them. Be an adult, stop catering to your children, take responsibility for your actions, and stop blaming everyone for your dumb choices and mistakes.


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How dare you insinuate that people are responsible for their own actions! Remember where you are posting.
 
2012-08-02 05:13:35 AM  

Great Janitor: Parents, your kids aren't eating McDonald's Happy Meals because of the toys. They are eating the McDonald's Happy Meals because you make the choice to buy them for your kid to eat. Your kids aren't fat because McDonald's put toys in their happy meals. They are fat because of what you choose to feed them. Be an adult, stop catering to your children, take responsibility for your actions, and stop blaming everyone for your dumb choices and mistakes.


Easier still, turn off your farking television.

You can see where the change was made in the 50s and 60s. Then, they would advertise to parents, saying, "Buy this for your kid!" Then they started marketing directly through Saturday morning cartoons, telling the kids to bug their parents, showing how every *other* kid's parents were buying them (whatever), in order to make the kid feel like his parents didn't love him.

Prime-time commercials aimed at the parents then show how happy the family would be if you'd only do (whatever).

Every individual parent is going up against a multi-billion dollar ad industry in trying to raise their kids, and there is *nothing* to show the parents how marketing affects the kids, and there's nothing to show the kids where the bullshiat manipulation comes from.

In a capitalist society, marketing awareness courses should be mandatory in public education. Level the playing field.
 
2012-08-02 05:32:52 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: ecmoRandomNumbers: "Judging from McDonald's response to similar health laws in the U.S. we'd expect the corporation to respond as it long has: it will fight tooth and nail to continue marketing to children," she said. "It will take every opportunity to blame parents for today's health epidemic. Marketing to kids is core to McDonald's brand and to its bottom line."

Ummmm... so?

Yeah.

Just because McDonald's has done behavioral studies and determined how to bypass reason by going for the children's emotions, then designed ad campaigns and spent millions on them to make children feel unloved and resentful toward their parents if they don't get a happy meal doesn't mean anything.


What aisle is a kids favorite aisle in a grocery store? The cereal aisle.
 
2012-08-02 05:43:58 AM  
My kids love McDonald's because of the Happy Meals. I hate McDonald's for a variety of reasons. My kids understand I'll take them to McDonald's once, maybe twice a year. There's no problem.
 
2012-08-02 06:11:16 AM  
I see the whale mums with their blimp kids every day as I drive by countless McDonalds. It's enough to make ya Farkin' puke.
What I wanna know is how could any dude EVER have got drunk enough to Fark the foul beast in the first place, to produce the roley-poley retard??
 
2012-08-02 06:47:06 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Great Janitor: Parents, your kids aren't eating McDonald's Happy Meals because of the toys. They are eating the McDonald's Happy Meals because you make the choice to buy them for your kid to eat. Your kids aren't fat because McDonald's put toys in their happy meals. They are fat because of what you choose to feed them. Be an adult, stop catering to your children, take responsibility for your actions, and stop blaming everyone for your dumb choices and mistakes.

Easier still, turn off your farking television.

You can see where the change was made in the 50s and 60s. Then, they would advertise to parents, saying, "Buy this for your kid!" Then they started marketing directly through Saturday morning cartoons, telling the kids to bug their parents, showing how every *other* kid's parents were buying them (whatever), in order to make the kid feel like his parents didn't love him.

Prime-time commercials aimed at the parents then show how happy the family would be if you'd only do (whatever).

Every individual parent is going up against a multi-billion dollar ad industry in trying to raise their kids, and there is *nothing* to show the parents how marketing affects the kids, and there's nothing to show the kids where the bullshiat manipulation comes from.

In a capitalist society, marketing awareness courses should be mandatory in public education. Level the playing field.


What kind of awareness does one need??

Teacher: This is a commercial. Companies use these to promote their goods so you will buy them.

Student: ohhhh.. NOW I get it! I wasn't aware before.
 
2012-08-02 06:51:39 AM  
Imokwiththis.jpg
 
2012-08-02 06:54:52 AM  
i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-02 06:57:27 AM  
Bake him away, toys!
 
2012-08-02 06:58:58 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Every individual parent is going up against a multi-billion dollar ad industry in trying to raise their kids, and there is *nothing* to show the parents how marketing affects the kids, and there's nothing to show the kids where the bullshiat manipulation comes from.

In a capitalist society, marketing awareness courses should be mandatory in public education. Level the playing field.


Typical fascist thinking. I'm smart enough to figure it out, but everybody else is stupid, so I mandate: x


Toys in these meals are aimed at kids around 3-10. Kids 3-10 aren't buying their own meals and aren't driving to Mcdonlads/Wherever.

I have a son aged 8 months. I know he will almost never get a happy meal or what have you... why? Because we almost never get fast food. So until he's hanging out on his own at the mall or wherever young teens hang out in 13 years, he won't be eating that stuff. No mandatory teaching needed.
 
2012-08-02 07:14:19 AM  
Parent of 4 year old. I have solved the great problem of free toys used to entice my four year old to eat meals at McDonald's at the like.

The easy part. I never started with happy meals to begin with. The hard part. Convincing others not to buy happy meals. If I do need to buy something there (which isn't very often but can happen at times) I buy just the food and never ever buy the bloody happy meal. Result being my son doesn't ask for happy meals and doesn't like to stop at fast food to eat.
 
2012-08-02 07:42:46 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog

Just because McDonald's has done behavioral studies and determined how to bypass reason by going for the children's emotions,

Well thank fsm nature didn't give children parents.



// you sound fat and your crotch fruit sound like they're screaming wal-mart brats
 
2012-08-02 07:54:31 AM  

MugzyBrown: Typical fascist thinking. I'm smart enough to figure it out, but everybody else is stupid, so I mandate: x


That's not "fascist thinking."

You're actually against more consumer education? Holy Shiat.

A free market can only exist with an educated consumer base. You're not a capitalist, you're a corporatist.
 
2012-08-02 08:30:26 AM  
www2.macleans.ca
 
2012-08-02 08:36:36 AM  
my kids would rather go to braums than mcdonalds. they don't get toys at braums, so the food is much healthier.

correlation, causation, and such
 
2012-08-02 08:38:27 AM  

MugzyBrown: Lenny_da_Hog: Every individual parent is going up against a multi-billion dollar ad industry in trying to raise their kids, and there is *nothing* to show the parents how marketing affects the kids, and there's nothing to show the kids where the bullshiat manipulation comes from.

In a capitalist society, marketing awareness courses should be mandatory in public education. Level the playing field.

Typical fascist thinking. I'm smart enough to figure it out, but everybody else is stupid, so I mandate: x


Toys in these meals are aimed at kids around 3-10. Kids 3-10 aren't buying their own meals and aren't driving to Mcdonlads/Wherever.

I have a son aged 8 months. I know he will almost never get a happy meal or what have you... why? Because we almost never get fast food. So until he's hanging out on his own at the mall or wherever young teens hang out in 13 years, he won't be eating that stuff. No mandatory teaching needed.


Wait until the birthday parties start.
 
2012-08-02 08:44:50 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The Happy Meal toy is actually an attractive nuisance, as far as I'm concerned. My kid forever wants whatever the latest piece of shiat plastic garbage they're hawking. It would be cheaper to buy these things separately. Plus, since my kid can't eat all 20 McNuggets, I'd get a little bonus meal.

I welcome this kind of thing. But I live somewhere that believes in personal liberty, so I'm stuck buying Happy Meals for the time being.


i hope there is some snark or troll element to this. at least when it comes to the number of mcnuggets.

but yes, most mcdonalds i've been to will sell the toys for $1 or $1.50 without having to get the meal
 
2012-08-02 08:46:35 AM  
I wonder how many older children get happy meals because of the toy instead of buying a larger meal?
 
2012-08-02 08:50:13 AM  

Mr. Breeze: I wonder how many older children get happy meals because of the toy instead of buying a larger meal?


i've done it as an teen and adult. and people like my sister do it often because they'd rather have the smaller meal anyway, and the toy is a bonus. at regular restaurants she'll either order from the kid menu or get a regular size meal and split it
 
2012-08-02 08:54:08 AM  

Bathsalt: What kind of awareness does one need??
Teacher: This is a commercial. Companies use these to promote their goods so you will buy them.
Student: ohhhh.. NOW I get it! I wasn't aware before.


You'd be surprised how easy it is to think "it's on the air, so it must be truth". Especially among folks who know just a little about the TV and Radio business, including how (in the USA at least) they have frequency licenses requiring them to operate "in the public interest".

More awareness that "stations need to make money, so they'll sell airtime to anyone willing to pay" would help.
 
2012-08-02 09:02:20 AM  

Mr. Breeze: I wonder how many older children get happy meals because of the toy instead of buying a larger meal?


A lot of parents will order happy meals so that their children will get more toys. I guess these parents will get the bigger meals once the toys are gone.
 
2012-08-02 09:03:37 AM  
I love hearing the childless talk about the moral high standards to which they would hold their imaginary children. It tickles me.
 
2012-08-02 09:13:26 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Just because McDonald's has done behavioral studies and determined how to bypass reason by going for the children's emotions, then designed ad campaigns and spent millions on them to make children feel unloved and resentful toward their parents if they don't get a happy meal doesn't mean anything.


So? Parents do all of that for free.
 
2012-08-02 09:27:41 AM  

The Homer Tax: MugzyBrown: Typical fascist thinking. I'm smart enough to figure it out, but everybody else is stupid, so I mandate: x

That's not "fascist thinking."

You're actually against more consumer education? Holy Shiat.

A free market can only exist with an educated consumer base. You're not a capitalist, you're a corporatist.


Who do you think doesn't know that feeding your kids McD's can make them fat? How many people are too busy to care? It's not education, it's giving a crap.
 
2012-08-02 09:29:33 AM  
We eat out once a week after my child's dance class, and she is almost four years old. I have never got a child's meal with a toy in it for her. Ever. She doesn't even know it's an option. As the parent, I can choose better options for her myself. It's really not THAT hard. I have the money, I do the ordering. What do people not get about this?
 
2012-08-02 09:32:07 AM  

bborchar: I have the money, I do the ordering. What do people not get about this?


You are powerless to resist a billion dollars of slick marketing campaign foisted upon you by a greedy eatocracy bent on destroying children. You're just some schmuck, and they are multinational corporations; how can you possibly stand against them? Your children have no chance.

/or so I've heard
 
2012-08-02 09:33:19 AM  
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2012-08-02 09:36:54 AM  

bborchar: We eat out once a week after my child's dance class, and she is almost four years old. I have never got a child's meal with a toy in it for her. Ever. She doesn't even know it's an option. As the parent, I can choose better options for her myself. It's really not THAT hard. I have the money, I do the ordering. What do people not get about this?


I'm sorry about your friendless child.
 
2012-08-02 09:45:46 AM  
Yes, because I am sure that the obesity is due to Happy Meals, and not the crap that the parents let their kids shovel in their hole at home and the other 5 meals they eat out a week..
 
2012-08-02 09:47:53 AM  
some kids are just born fat. and NO amount of exercise can burn off those calories, apart from a vegan based diet
 
2012-08-02 09:49:10 AM  
What a happy meal may look like (if I didn't suck at photoshop).
i228.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-02 09:52:24 AM  
What a happy meal TOY may look like (if I didn't suck at Photoshop).
i228.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-02 10:04:29 AM  
Came for picture of the fat kid at McDonalds.

/disappointed.
 
2012-08-02 10:21:31 AM  
You mean that dropping the Awesome Blossom didn't solve it?
 
2012-08-02 10:22:36 AM  

Great Janitor: Parents, your kids aren't eating McDonald's Happy Meals because of the toys. They are eating the McDonald's Happy Meals because you make the choice to buy them for your kid to eat. Your kids aren't fat because McDonald's put toys in their happy meals. They are fat because of what you choose to feed them. Be an adult, stop catering to your children, take responsibility for your actions, and stop blaming everyone for your dumb choices and mistakes.


But...but...I wont be my child's best friend anymore
 
2012-08-02 10:24:28 AM  
I'd say give away toys with healthy food meals but I then I started laughing.

www.thorndon.co.nz

/best Happy Meal toy ever?
//Anyone else figure the cheeseburger sounds like G.W. Bailey?
 
2012-08-02 10:43:50 AM  

Great Janitor: Parents, your kids aren't eating McDonald's Happy Meals because of the toys. They are eating the McDonald's Happy Meals because you make the choice to buy them for your kid to eat. Your kids aren't fat because McDonald's put toys in their happy meals. They are fat because of what you choose to feed them. Be an adult, stop catering to your children, take responsibility for your actions, and stop blaming everyone for your dumb choices and mistakes.


So much this. Parents take some damned personal responsibility.
 
2012-08-02 11:13:37 AM  

jaybeezey: Who do you think doesn't know that feeding your kids McD's can make them fat? How many people are too busy to care? It's not education, it's giving a crap.


That wasn't what was suggested people get educated on.

I'm in favor of an educated populate, it's weird to me when people have this visceral, negative reaction against that notion.
 
2012-08-02 11:15:24 AM  
The McDonalds toys usually come out at a rate of one a week.

If you do decide to take that route, buying one happy meal a week is not going to make a kid fat, if the rest of their meals are healhier. However, if you let a kid eat at Mcdonalds nearly every day, or have sugary cereals for breakfast every day, that's probably not going to end well.
 
2012-08-02 11:16:00 AM  

Shadowtag: /best Happy Meal toy ever?


Those were cool, but Fast Macs FTW:

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2012-08-02 02:01:48 PM  

Bathsalt: What kind of awareness does one need??

Teacher: This is a commercial. Companies use these to promote their goods so you will buy them.

Student: ohhhh.. NOW I get it! I wasn't aware before.


Just shows how unaware you are.

Look up neuromarketing sometime. Did you know a bottle of hand sanitizer in people's view will lead them to choose a more conservative option? Music in ads can be a more powerful persuader than words or pictures, because people don't consciously focus on it?

Marketers targeting kids and adults both know these things. They don't even have to mention products anymore. They just show logos and people having more fun than you.

/wonders how many Farkers have an unused bottle of Old Spice in their medicine cabinet....
 
2012-08-03 10:21:31 AM  

DECMATH: Bathsalt: What kind of awareness does one need??
Teacher: This is a commercial. Companies use these to promote their goods so you will buy them.
Student: ohhhh.. NOW I get it! I wasn't aware before.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to think "it's on the air, so it must be truth". Especially among folks who know just a little about the TV and Radio business, including how (in the USA at least) they have frequency licenses requiring them to operate "in the public interest".

More awareness that "stations need to make money, so they'll sell airtime to anyone willing to pay" would help.


Advertisers have a metric called 'the Nag Factor.' It measures an ads ability to make kids nag their parents to death.
Advertising works really well.
It works best on children & people that think they're immune/resistant to advertising.

All advertising to kids should be banned. If you're not old enough to be an income earner, no ads for you. Not concerned about the companies it would hurt temporarily or the economic impact. The cultural change in the long term would be worth it.
 
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