Confabulat: muck4doo: And the derp goes on. All of you on both sides of this so important issue of to eat ,or not eat chicken at this place should be slapped.

No one is forcing YOU to have an opinion. So if you don't have one, go someplace where you do.

This looks to be the important issue of the day. I have weighed the issue, and my opinion is everyone is acting like ermagherd! retards.

muck4doo: This looks to be the important issue of the day. I have weighed the issue, and my opinion is everyone is acting like ermagherd! retards.

rynthetyn: I like other people's fries, but not Chick-Fil-A's.

Get the hell out of my country, you farking gay-loving commie.

I wanted to boycott a corporation that gives lots of money to lots of causes I don't support, but I got a letter back from them saying that I had to file my income taxes or face some kind of penalty.

Emracool the Aeons Hip: tinfoil-hat maggie: Wow, I'm surprised you're considering going, but more power to you for considering it. I've had a lot of GLBT friends that went to christen colleges.It's funny how that works out, well not HaHa funny but well they generally know the bible better than the so called christens that want to deny peoples rights.

Yeah, and some of the most bible-proficient people around are atheists. Funny how that works.

Religious people don't WANT to read their source material. Then they'd have to consciously face their constant violation of it.

Aarontology: what_now: Aarontology: And you boycotters inspired them.

Congratulations.

Explain to me how boycotting Chick-fil-a is a bad thing? Because they got a one day bump from anti-boycotters? because it made some people feel bad? Because it adds to the absurd persecution complex?

I'm ok with all of that.

Because it drove people there, thus increasing the company profits and the amount of money available to donate to anti-gay campaigns.

Because slacktivists think that not doing anything is actually going to do something for gay rights. Especially given that so many people boycotting never spent a dime there to begin with.

Because it's yet another trendy bit of "activism" that accomplishes nothing. Just like the anti-Kony thing. The boycott has done nothing but increase chick-fil-a's profits, and made slackers feel better about themselves.

That's something worth considering and it would be interesting to see how the numbers play out.

Does advertizing the "boycott" of a company that is located primarily in the areas where your "opponents" reside going to help or hurt your campaign.

Well, it's definitely a concern if almost all the "boycotters" are living in areas where they wouldn't be able to access that business anyway. While their "opponents", who do live in the area, flock to the business in droves in order to show their "support".

They don't really *lose* any business, but they sure have some sale spikes for a few days (or longer). Thus enabling their stand even further.

/someone potentially did not think their cunning plan all the way through...

untaken_name: I wanted to boycott a corporation that gives lots of money to lots of causes I don't support, but I got a letter back from them saying that I had to file my income taxes or face some kind of penalty.

...and their fries suck.

Aussie_As: cameroncrazy1984: pxlboy: WTF_Are_You_Looking_At: Just because people are heterosexual . It does not mean they're anti gay!

This.

Please tell me one person who has ever said that someone is anti-gay by being heterosexual. One person. Ever. In history.

Unbelievably, it happens. Like on this very website. This week. Subby uses the term 'pro-heterosexual' when s/he means 'anti-gay'.

Link

He must be new to fark.
I'll vouch for it happening quite often here on fark.

Some of fark's more extreme liberals will use every far right dirty and bigoted trick to try to feel superior, to include being anti-hetero in such a manner.

It doesn't just happen for sexuality either. Plays a big part in race threads. Say, Zimmerman threads, someone says "innocent until proven guilty", and they're branded racist. Not to get into the specifics of that here, god, please, don't do that. Just sayin'.

Every given party, be it the majority or minority, has it's asshats that will try to make such retarded associations.

These people have that audacity to think that because they're of the right(gay rights in this case, the moral equality high ground) opinion, that they can't be called on parts of their arguments that are total BS. Anyone pointing that out is automatically a bigoted homophobe who, if supposedly straight, is secretly craving the cock. Yes, they go so far as to use their own preferences as if they should be an insult, as if it's a bad bad thing. It's got a distinct self loathing quality at times, which I find funny.

I suspect, that for most of them, being outraged and arguing with someone, anyone, is the real goal. Rage junkies who really are just a mirror image of Westboro Baptists.

So will they be making Bigot Day into an annual event? Maybe invite the Klan as well, bring in a few Neo-Nazis, don't forget all of the Islamophobes running around as well. A great big party of chicken and hate. Fun for the whole family.

untaken_name: I wanted to boycott a corporation that gives lots of money to lots of causes I don't support, but I got a letter back from them saying that I had to file my income taxes or face some kind of penalty.

you're talking about the Government, I get it! I'm right there with you, buddy, close the hundreds of overseas military bases, bring out boys home! end the war on drugs!

I don't like fast food anyway. It makes me feel like a farm animal at a trough eating slop.

Lsherm: Why do the religious nutjobs do a better job running a cheap food restaurant?

Closed on Sundays = 14% less wear & tear on the facilities.

rynthetyn: generally sane

That's a highly subjective term when you're talking about a group of people who think their imaginary friend is real.

omeganuepsilon: Aussie_As: cameroncrazy1984: pxlboy: WTF_Are_You_Looking_At:


......

These people have that audacity to think that because they're of the right(gay rights in this case, the moral equality high ground) opinion, that they can't be called on parts of their arguments that are total BS. Anyone pointing that out is automatically a bigoted homophobe who, if supposedly straight, is secretly craving the cock. Yes, they go so far as to use their own preferences as if they should be an insult, as if it's a bad bad thing. It's got a distinct self loathing quality at times, which I find funny.

I suspect, that for most of them, being outraged and arguing with someone, anyone, is the real goal. Rage junkies who really are just a mirror image of Westboro Baptists.

I must confess to having used a twist on the arguement you cited. Specifically, I don't think I've suggested that anyone who is anti-gay-marriage craves cock, but I have used it against people who have claimed that gay marriage would undermine straight marriages. As a hetero married guy, if Adam and Steve get hitched and move in over the road from me, the only way I could see that undermining my marriage was if I was a closetted gay dude. Having made the decision to deny my actual sexuality and do the conservative, societally approved thing and married a woman anyway, then this would present massive challenges. As it is, this fortunately isn't the case, and Adam and Steve are fine to get on with their lives without having any possible impact on me.

If anyone wants to explain to me how gay marriage would undermine my marriage in practical terms, I'm open to ideas. I'm not holding my breath that anyone's going to come up with any though.

Lsherm: Since it's a binary choice in American politics, you have to choose the side you think will represent most of your interests

Unless you are a millionaire, the GOP doesn't represent your interests.

Aussie_As: If anyone wants to explain to me how gay marriage would undermine my marriage in practical terms, I'm open to ideas. I'm not holding my breath that anyone's going to come up with any though.

Well, when gay people get to marry it makes the act of getting married less dignified. It's just like when you let people of different color get married.

/that was actually a common belief less than a lifetime ago
//our grandchildren will be laughing at us

Keizer_Ghidorah: Mock26: Keizer_Ghidorah: It's not about "free speech". It's about the head of CFA giving customer money to groups that actively try to oppress and deny a group of Americans, fellow countrymen and human beings, the same rights everyone else has.

Free speech is him declaring his position on homosexuality.
Free speech is us declaring what a twat he his.
Free speech is NOT funding hate groups.

Does that make it simpler to understand? This isn't about what he says, but what he DOES. And any decent, moral human being SHOULD actively boycott and deny him, just has he's actively funding discrimination and oppression.

/and a hale and hearty "F*ck you and the horse you rode in on" to those who support denying people their rights and freedoms because of your backwards religion or your feelings of "Ew, icky!".

It is actually an issue of legality. Those "hate groups" as you cause them are using legal means to oppose legislation that supports same-sex marriage and support legislation that expressly prohibits it. That is democracy in action.

As for "moral" humans, who gets to decide what is and is not moral? Hmmm?

Human rights should NOT be up for popular vote, democracy be damned. Last I checked this was "The land of the free" where "All men are created equal".

What's moral? Gee, I don't know, being kind, loving, compassionate, caring, supportive, and accepting of your fellow human beings sounds pretty moral to me. Not being a raging cockmuffin to people because of who they fall in love with seems pretty moral to me. Not trying to discrimiate, oppress, demonize, or attack others for their differences seems pretty moral to me. Maybe on Bizarro World those sound evil and immoral, but I'm fairly certain I live on Earth.

But human rights are up for popular vote. Except for white property owners the humans rights of everyone in this country have been up for vote. That is the way our country is set up. Sad but true.

Yes, you do live on Earth. But, on Earth many christians consider homosexuality to be moral and to oppose same-sex marriage to be moral. Why are they wrong and you right?

/Not supporting chick-fil-a or other christians on this issue, just pointing out that morality is very subjective.

muck4doo: Confabulat: muck4doo: And the derp goes on. All of you on both sides of this so important issue of to eat ,or not eat chicken at this place should be slapped.

No one is forcing YOU to have an opinion. So if you don't have one, go someplace where you do.

This looks to be the important issue of the day. I have weighed the issue, and my opinion is everyone is acting like ermagherd! retards.

Says the ermagherd! retard.

Mock26: Why are they wrong and you right?

I could say that they base that anti-homosexual belief entirely from the book of Leviticus, which is an objectively amoral part of the Bible.

Emracool the Aeons Hip: objectively amoral

There is no such thing as "objectively moral", therefore, there is no such thing as "objectively immoral" either.

untaken_name: Emracool the Aeons Hip: objectively amoral

There is no such thing as "objectively moral", therefore, there is no such thing as "objectively immoral" either.

"Amoral" is what i meant to say at the end, but "immoral" works too.

untaken_name: Emracool the Aeons Hip: objectively amoral

There is no such thing as "objectively moral", therefore, there is no such thing as "objectively immoral" either.

I will say with confidence, right here right now, that Leviticus contains nothing resembling "good morals" by any standard.

Gordon Bennett: So will they be making Bigot Day into an annual event? Maybe invite the Klan as well, bring in a few Neo-Nazis, don't forget all of the Islamophobes running around as well. A great big party of chicken and hate. Fun for the whole family.

Hagenhatesyouall: I gives a fark what anybody thinks about gay marriage.

However, when a government entity claims they will deny a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen, we have a problem.

EVERY citizen should agree with that.

Sure, but since the current situation is NOT AT ALL like "a government entity denying a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen," we DON'T have a problem.

Links explaining all this have already been posted to the thread, so feel free to educate yourself.

Emracool the Aeons Hip: I will say with confidence, right here right now, that Leviticus contains nothing resembling "good morals" by any standard.

What about by the standard of ancient Abrahamic religious codes? Every moral code is subjective. You don't like this old moral code because your moral code is different, but objectively, there is nothing to validate one moral code over another. Sorry. You can't logically say any moral code is objectively wrong when there aren't any objective ways to quantify morality.

BobDeluxe: When I ate the chicken I could feel the hate fill my soul. I'm one sammich away from being a full fledged bigot.

Oh, no. You're already there.

ciberido: Hagenhatesyouall: I gives a fark what anybody thinks about gay marriage.

However, when a government entity claims they will deny a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen, we have a problem.

EVERY citizen should agree with that.

Sure, but since the current situation is NOT AT ALL like "a government entity denying a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen," we DON'T have a problem.

Links explaining all this have already been posted to the thread, so feel free to educate yourself.

It's not like that AT ALL, eh?

[Chicago Alderman] Proco "Joe" Moreno announced this week that he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store ... following company President Dan Cathy's remarks last week that he was "guilty as charged" for supporting the biblical definition of marriage as between a man and woman....

Link

Note that I am not against a boycott of Chik-Fil-A. But I am against building permits being contingent upon political correctness.

untaken_name: What about by the standard of ancient Abrahamic religious codes? Every moral code is subjective. You don't like this old moral code because your moral code is different, but objectively, there is nothing to validate one moral code over another. Sorry. You can't logically say any moral code is objectively wrong when there aren't any objective ways to quantify morality.

My use of the word objectively was more of a tongue-in-cheek way of saying no sane person would think it is moral... I understand how wrong the concept of absolute and objective morality is, doesn't stop me from pointing out how obviously stupid that particular moral code is though.

My housemate and I were wondering what the hell was going on last night when we passed by there. The line for the drive thru was starting to block traffic at intersections and the line out the door was getting about 15 feet long.

Emracool the Aeons Hip: Mock26: Why are they wrong and you right?

I could say that they base that anti-homosexual belief entirely from the book of Leviticus, which is an objectively amoral part of the Bible.

Not supporting Chick-fil-a here, but the ban on homosexuality made it into the new testament, too.

why do we hate chik fil a? someone explain to me plz?

untaken_name: ciberido: Hagenhatesyouall: I gives a fark what anybody thinks about gay marriage.

However, when a government entity claims they will deny a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen, we have a problem.

EVERY citizen should agree with that.

Sure, but since the current situation is NOT AT ALL like "a government entity denying a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen," we DON'T have a problem.

Links explaining all this have already been posted to the thread, so feel free to educate yourself.

It's not like that AT ALL, eh?

[Chicago Alderman] Proco "Joe" Moreno announced this week that he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store ... following company President Dan Cathy's remarks last week that he was "guilty as charged" for supporting the biblical definition of marriage as between a man and woman....

Link

Note that I am not against a boycott of Chik-Fil-A. But I am against building permits being contingent upon political correctness.

This.

Mock26: untaken_name: ciberido: Hagenhatesyouall: I gives a fark what anybody thinks about gay marriage.

However, when a government entity claims they will deny a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen, we have a problem.

EVERY citizen should agree with that.

Sure, but since the current situation is NOT AT ALL like "a government entity denying a business permit just because they don't agree with the lawful opinion of a citizen," we DON'T have a problem.

Links explaining all this have already been posted to the thread, so feel free to educate yourself.

It's not like that AT ALL, eh?

[Chicago Alderman] Proco "Joe" Moreno announced this week that he will block Chick-fil-A's effort to build its second Chicago store ... following company President Dan Cathy's remarks last week that he was "guilty as charged" for supporting the biblical definition of marriage as between a man and woman....

Link

Note that I am not against a boycott of Chik-Fil-A. But I am against building permits being contingent upon political correctness.

This.

so chik fil a is in trouble because they think kids should have a mother and father to raise them? people are mad about that?

Mock26: muck4doo: Confabulat: muck4doo: And the derp goes on. All of you on both sides of this so important issue of to eat ,or not eat chicken at this place should be slapped.

No one is forcing YOU to have an opinion. So if you don't have one, go someplace where you do.

This looks to be the important issue of the day. I have weighed the issue, and my opinion is everyone is acting like ermagherd! retards.

Says the ermagherd! retard.

ermahgerd! chikfilay is serus bizniss!

Instead of leaving they're staying, in droves!

Gyrfalcon: Moral codes are usually (should be) personal. Ethics are a different thing, and quite codifiable. A thing can be morally wrong, and yet legally allowed. Sometimes they intersect (like murdering a child is always morally and ethically wrong) but more often they don't.

That's our collective decision as a society. There's nothing in nature which quantifies "right" and "wrong". There are no units of morality, or ethics. There is only a collective bargain whereby we as a society determine what is "right" and "wrong", as well as what is "legal" and "illegal".

EnviroDude: CFA hasn't broken any laws....simply expressed an opinion...If you ever need a bookmark of fascism and the left, this is it.

Let's follow the dots:

CFA supports a "pray yourself straight" group Exodus International, an organization that practices and promotes discredited "reparative therapy," which is really just torture disguised as aversion therapy.

Exodus sends a representative to Uganda as part of an anti-gay evangelical hate-group caucus to meet with Ugandan politicians. The evangelicals outright lie, promote junk-science and deliberately misrepresent real science* to make the case that gay people are dangerous child-sex predators.

One month later, a bill is proposed in the Ugandan parliament that criminalizes being gay, subject to the death penalty. This bill is still very much in play.

Ugandan newspapers began identifying Ugandan gay activists by name and address. Under one headline, "HANG THEM," was a photo and address for David Kato. Mr. Kato was subsequently bludgeoned to death in his home.

Other gay Ugandans have been murdered, beaten and raped, which is likewise traceable to the incitement of the American anti-gay evangelicals, funded in part, by fine Christian organizations like Chick-fil-A

You say, "CFA hasn't broken any laws, they've just expressed an opinion, the left are the real fascists."

Still want to stand by that?


_{(* techniques perfected by the hate-group political lobby the Family Research Council, another of CFA's pet charities)}

Soooooooo, it was a good day for decent people to get lunch with no lines then?