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(MSNBC)   Rep. Mike Kelly (R-eally insane): Free birth control will live "in infamy" alongside 9/11 and Pearl Harbor   (firstread.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 114
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2012-08-01 02:56:30 PM
7 votes:
This is repugnant and insulting to the people who died in those tragedies.
2012-08-01 02:23:56 PM
5 votes:
Yep, because when the USS Arizona was sinking, or when the South Tower was falling, I'm sure the victims were thinking, "Damn those public health initiatives. We'd still be alive if not for that".
2012-08-01 03:44:15 PM
4 votes:
The rhetoric, while insane, is horribly insulting to the memories of the cited days.

A surprise attack by the Japanese Empire in an attempt to weaken the United States and leave it in a position to potentially be invaded by an army bent on world rule in no way comes close to a mandate that women can have birth control pills.

Further, when I think back to the live video of humans jumping from the 100th floor of the Trade Center Towers, choosing the horrible kiss of cement over the prospect of burning alive, I find his analogy, well, lacking.

In short, fark you, sir. fark you.
2012-08-01 03:06:15 PM
4 votes:
the republican party has lost it. it has gone completely batshiat, bugfark insane. it may win an election or two in the next decade, but it is in its death throes.
2012-08-01 02:54:41 PM
4 votes:
Jesus farking christ. What the hell is wrong with people, and why the hell do the keep getting into elected positions?
2012-08-01 07:21:15 PM
3 votes:
I'll never forget watching the attacks happen live on the morning of 9/11. After the initial shock wore off I remember calmly watching it all happen. The second plane hitting, the people willingly jumping to their death to avoid burning to death, the towers collapsing, and then the horror of wondering if my wife who worked in the Pentagon at the time was OK when they started reporting a plane had hit there as well.

Through it all I remember thinking, "I told that stupid biatch not to start taking the pill."
2012-08-01 06:41:09 PM
3 votes:

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


And had conservatives not spent the last few decades farking up our economy with trickle down economics, they might be able to and this wouldn't be a problem.

But since the system now favors what's become little more than a pyramid scheme economy, people working hard for 80 hours a week can't afford premiums. You want to eliminate welfare and the need for it? Stop pissing around with trickle down and start working on making so people get paid for the work they do, rather than the people above them getting rich off the backs of everybody else.
2012-08-01 05:41:27 PM
3 votes:

breadprincess: I take hormonal bc to control a chronic disease I have that causes severe pain and my insurance won't cover it because it's a "lifestyle choice".


Some radio personalities would take that as an opening to rant for three days about what a slut you are and demand you post videos of your sex life on the internet. And many would listen and laud those comments.
2012-08-01 05:30:47 PM
3 votes:
Okay, fark this noise. I am so, SO relieved that health insurance has to cover birth control. I take hormonal bc to control a chronic disease I have that causes severe pain and my insurance won't cover it because it's a "lifestyle choice". Fark you Blue Cross Blue Shield, I didn't choose to live a life of debilitating pain. Because of my health I can't work very much and while bc isn't crazy expensive, it would be nice to have it covered so I have one less bill to worry about.
2012-08-01 05:20:28 PM
3 votes:
www.harikari.com
2012-08-01 05:07:47 PM
3 votes:
I don't get this "religious freedom" argument against insurance coverage of birth control. Nobody is being forced to use it. Paying into something that may use money to give someone else something you disagree with already happens all the time through taxes. What about people whose religion is against killing with no exceptions? Do they get to not pay taxes because that money might eventually be used to supply the military?
2012-08-01 03:05:58 PM
3 votes:

Lando Lincoln: Stupid or trolling? Stupid or trolling? I'm gonna have to go with...both.


seriously does anyone around here have more than a 5 second memory for people's usernames jesus christ
2012-08-01 02:59:20 PM
3 votes:
Yeah, folks NOT having unwanted babies, THAT'S the real enemy...
2012-08-01 02:41:52 PM
3 votes:
Is this such a disaster for them because people won't be getting as many abortions?
2012-08-01 08:21:11 PM
2 votes:

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.
2012-08-01 07:47:53 PM
2 votes:

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


You... you... You don't know how insurance actually works, do you? Is that the heart of the problem?
2012-08-01 07:07:30 PM
2 votes:

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


Since when are the 'tax payers' paying my private medical insurance, you know, the folks who have to cover contraceptives without a copay? I could have sworn I payed premiums every month for my coverage.
2012-08-01 06:51:43 PM
2 votes:

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


It's not like you're getting a bill in your taxes that says, "birth control". You're paying the same amount in taxes whether or not birth control is or isn't covered in health insurance. Christ, with all the shiat we waste money on as a country, you're biatching about that? What a collection of petty douchebags.

No one's crying about boner pills being covered.
2012-08-01 05:27:19 PM
2 votes:

Jaws_Victim: FTFA:

"This is a right that every American should be outraged, outraged about what this administration and Secretary Sibelius has set forth here on August the 1st," New York Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R) said at the same press conference as Kelly. "And as Mike said, August the 1st is a day that we as American will look at as the largest assault on our First Amendment rights."

I don't get it. It's like an entire side of Congress and generation of hatemongers is doing EVERYTHING In their power to make sure I never, ever vote for them. It feels so terrible knowing that they will win in a landslide in the next election.


The really farking sickening thing about this derp is that they thin forcing people to indirectly pay for contraception is an assault on religious freedom , but forcing people to pay for wars is just hunky dory to them.
2012-08-01 05:21:05 PM
2 votes:

NeoCortex42: Also, FTA: "..and President Obama subsequently announced a compromise in which employers wouldn't be forced to offer insurance plans that cover contraception, but insurance companies would be required to offer coverage to women who wish to purchase it. Republicans rejected the compromise, and subsequently attempted several times to advance legislation to reverse the mandate. "

Why would they have any problem with this compromise? It solves the exact problem they're complaining about. Or are they hoping that employers get to choose whether employees use contraception at all, regardless of who pays for it?


They are still banging the "Freedom of Conscience" drum. Which is an imaginary right where you get to assert your will on your employee's because you're their social better. What dumb founds me is why the majority of conservatives are protestant but are essentially saying that the pope and his cronies should be free to dictate US domestic policy. These are the same people who have told me the pope is in league with satan for fark sake.
2012-08-01 05:17:40 PM
2 votes:

NeoCortex42: Why would they have any problem with this compromise? It solves the exact problem they're complaining about. Or are they hoping that employers get to choose whether employees use contraception at all, regardless of who pays for it?


Their goal is for contraception to be banned outright. The "Employer's rights" bullshiat is a smokescreen.
2012-08-01 05:01:01 PM
2 votes:
Boy, when Republicans declare War on Women, they don't go halfway do they?
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-01 03:28:00 PM
2 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-08-01 03:19:01 PM
2 votes:

GWLush: Is this such a disaster for them because people won't be getting as many abortions?


Well, they've been redefining what an abortion is to mean that if you had sex and didn't get pregnant, then you had an abortion.
2012-08-01 03:17:02 PM
2 votes:
"Off the rails" hasn't been a sufficient term to describe the GOP in quite some time, has it? Wow...
2012-08-01 03:13:56 PM
2 votes:

Blues_X: I have no words to express how much disgust I feel for every one of these goddamned moronic idiots.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU OR YOUR FAMILY TO USE THE CONTRACEPTIVES, SHIATHEADS!


THEIR KIDS WILL BE TEMPTED TO USE BIRTH CONTROL IF IT'S AVAILABLE! WHY ARE PEOPLE TEMPTING GOOD CHRISTIANS TO NOT BE PREGNANT?
2012-08-01 03:12:43 PM
2 votes:
I have no words to express how much disgust I feel for every one of these goddamned moronic idiots.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU OR YOUR FAMILY TO USE THE CONTRACEPTIVES, SHIATHEADS!
2012-08-01 03:03:52 PM
2 votes:

vernonFL: If the Founding Fathers of this nation believed that, 236 years later, a black President would be giving free birth control to women, they wouldn't have started the American Revolution.


Stupid or trolling? Stupid or trolling? I'm gonna have to go with...both.
2012-08-01 02:57:14 PM
2 votes:
how the hell do these people get elected!?

how do I go about running for office? Hell, I"d run as a gotdamn democrat if it would weaken the GOP nutballs in this state.
2012-08-01 02:32:53 PM
2 votes:
STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little
2012-08-02 01:52:06 PM
1 votes:

Alphax: Gyrfalcon: 1. Unemployment is at an all time high! People can't get jobs! BUT
2. Poor people should go to work and stop leeching off the government.

The local political ads lately: "I'm going to cut spending, and put people back to work!" Usually said by someone who claims to be a Job Creator.


Seems like everyone running in Missouri is a "job creator" in some shape or form.

My favorite one is the Sarah Steelman ads with Sarah Palin.
2012-08-02 07:10:52 AM
1 votes:
Funny how all these outraged christians don't seem to have a problem paying for bombs to drop on other people in other parts of the world...

In short, fark these pathetic morons.
2012-08-02 06:46:42 AM
1 votes:
I think birth control should be retroactively mandatory for Rep. Mike Kelley's mother.
2012-08-02 05:28:38 AM
1 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: Wow. Extreme ignorance of the topic, extreme religious reaction to what other people do, and extremely idiotic comparison of public health care and womens' rights to two events were Americans were attacked by outside forces as part of fear tactics. This is the purest form of insanity, people.

I'm surprised he didn't go on to compare homosexuals to rapists and pedophiles, blame Obama for the Great Depression, and say natural disasters around the world are God's way of lashing out at America for allowing the homogay.


Ya know 15 years ago what you said would be over the top but really I am surprised in today's world the guy was able to limit it to just that. I can't believe were we've sunk to.
2012-08-02 04:06:31 AM
1 votes:

themindiswatching: Lee Jackson Beauregard: 8) Profit! For the private prison industry and the purveyors of said heavy weaponry, that is.

Honestly, I think the current GOP's bought into what they're spewing. I really don't think they can think far enough ahead to pull something like that off.


It's a complete disconnect between the various arguments. There are several, and most of them really are mutually incompatible:

1. Unemployment is at an all time high! People can't get jobs! BUT
2. Poor people should go to work and stop leeching off the government.

1. Single moms shouldn't have so many babies they can't afford! BUT
2. We're not going to help raise those babies! She should have thought of that before she got pregnant!

1. We don't want single-payer health insurance! It's infringing on our rights! BUT
2. People who don't have insurance should have thought of that before they got sick!

1. We need more cops and prisons to punish criminals! BUT
2. We don't want to pay for people not to become criminals in the first place.

And on and on and on and on....
2012-08-02 03:59:13 AM
1 votes:

Sabyen91: Fluorescent Testicle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia

I prefer sexlexia, myself.

I like you more and more.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]


Thanks,I didn't need any hentai right before bed.
2012-08-02 03:06:14 AM
1 votes:

Lee Jackson Beauregard: 8) Profit! For the private prison industry and the purveyors of said heavy weaponry, that is.


Honestly, I think the current GOP's bought into what they're spewing. I really don't think they can think far enough ahead to pull something like that off.
2012-08-02 02:57:20 AM
1 votes:

Lorelle: cchris_39: No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.

Dude, you're not paying for my insurance.

The unwanted kids aren't paying their way, though, and are getting free health care AND food on our dime. I can understand your outrage over the refusal of these lazy bums to go out and get jobs. They definitely should be put out on the streets and allowed to starve to death.


1) No abortion, no birth control, defund Planned Parenthood.
2) Young women give birth to babies they can't raise.
3) Deny all all assistance to said babies.
4) Babies grow up and become adults.
5) The rest of us meet said adults, with guns in their hands demanding money. Starving people have this funny habit of not starving quietly.
6) Publicans yell zOMG CRIME WAVE!
7) More heavy weaponry in the hands of local cops.
8) Profit! For the private prison industry and the purveyors of said heavy weaponry, that is.
2012-08-02 02:07:17 AM
1 votes:

Sabyen91:

/F*cking little chickens.



Kind of explains the "outrage" of the past 4 years.
2012-08-02 02:06:57 AM
1 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia

I prefer sexlexia, myself.


I like you more and more.

3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-08-02 02:03:54 AM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia


I prefer sexlexia, myself.
2012-08-02 01:45:34 AM
1 votes:

Bucky Katt: MaudlinMutantMollusk: STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little

That's part of the problem. He just needs to go run for pope or something and leave this country alone.


I don't know why Maudlin mixed up the words.

/F*cking little chickens.
2012-08-02 01:42:59 AM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little


That's part of the problem. He just needs to go run for pope or something and leave this country alone.
2012-08-02 12:46:31 AM
1 votes:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Phins: So a country where the laws match her interpretation of Catholicism would be the best for everyone.

Unfortunately those twits are loud.

It's really funny - I did Catholic leadership whatnot growing up in high school. So I went to plenty of different churches.

There was always one, at MOST two, families in each suburban or upper class church who weren't using birth control. At my own church, one family had 6 or 7 kids. Everyone else had 1-2, 3 *max*.

In any case, I need to take mine for NON contraceptive reasons (that I'm less likely to have a baby is just bonus). So eff you, lady.


My parents were so Catholic you could call them Papists. Yet when I snuck into their bedroom to get the cool books from my Dad's shelf, I found condoms in their bedside table.
2012-08-02 12:37:25 AM
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: Donnchadha: soaboutthat: They do know married couples in committed relationships also like to have SEX without risking a child they do not want and/or are able to have. It's not just the sluts.

/For the record I have no problem with sluts, in fact I like sluts.

But if you're married, a child is the holy expression of matrimonial love and should always be welcomed as God's gift to the couple

I think I'm going to use that line the next time a Republican biatches about "welfare queens" having more kids than they can afford.

Done know why that never occurred to me until now.


It's occurred to me, but I couldn't think of a succinct way to put it.

"So people with too many kids is A-OK as long as they're married? Even if they're on every kind of welfare under the sun? Because that's their holy expression of God's love etc.? Thanks, glad we got that straightened out."
2012-08-02 12:34:29 AM
1 votes:

Phins: So a country where the laws match her interpretation of Catholicism would be the best for everyone.


Unfortunately those twits are loud.

It's really funny - I did Catholic leadership whatnot growing up in high school. So I went to plenty of different churches.

There was always one, at MOST two, families in each suburban or upper class church who weren't using birth control. At my own church, one family had 6 or 7 kids. Everyone else had 1-2, 3 *max*.

In any case, I need to take mine for NON contraceptive reasons (that I'm less likely to have a baby is just bonus). So eff you, lady.
2012-08-02 12:28:23 AM
1 votes:

breadprincess: Okay, fark this noise. I am so, SO relieved that health insurance has to cover birth control. I take hormonal bc to control a chronic disease I have that causes severe pain and my insurance won't cover it because it's a "lifestyle choice". Fark you Blue Cross Blue Shield, I didn't choose to live a life of debilitating pain. Because of my health I can't work very much and while bc isn't crazy expensive, it would be nice to have it covered so I have one less bill to worry about.


I know. $300 more a year gets to stay in my pocket. 'tis awesome.

Benign ovarian cysts (and pain cause of it) + crazy irregular cycle. I went off for awhile. Went back after a going-on-9-weeks-without-a-period drawn out increasing heart attack.

Agreed on the FU to BCBS, but they all suck and this was REALLY necessary. My workplace is incredibly liberal but we aren't large enough to negotiate much on the insurance buying floor. Pay the same for BC as I did with BCBS.

Not anymore. Effin' a.
2012-08-01 11:55:27 PM
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: Donnchadha: soaboutthat: They do know married couples in committed relationships also like to have SEX without risking a child they do not want and/or are able to have. It's not just the sluts.

/For the record I have no problem with sluts, in fact I like sluts.

But if you're married, a child is the holy expression of matrimonial love and should always be welcomed as God's gift to the couple

I think I'm going to use that line the next time a Republican biatches about "welfare queens" having more kids than they can afford.

Done know why that never occurred to me until now.


They'll either wiffle and waffle something about personal responsibility and imply that you should never have sex unless you are willing to pay for it with money, children, and/or punishment from god; or they'll scream YOUR AN RACIST! YOU WANTS MINORITIES TO DIE LIKE WHATSERNAME WHO STARTED PLANNED PARENTHOOD! DIDJA KNOW SHE WAS A NAZI?!?! (even though you didn't bring up minorities, abortion, or Planned Parenthood and that's a lie).

Really though, that's as close as it gets to a win, so have at.
2012-08-01 11:38:53 PM
1 votes:
Wow. Extreme ignorance of the topic, extreme religious reaction to what other people do, and extremely idiotic comparison of public health care and womens' rights to two events were Americans were attacked by outside forces as part of fear tactics. This is the purest form of insanity, people.

I'm surprised he didn't go on to compare homosexuals to rapists and pedophiles, blame Obama for the Great Depression, and say natural disasters around the world are God's way of lashing out at America for allowing the homogay.
2012-08-01 10:58:16 PM
1 votes:

Raspil: Wednesday marked the day on which a controversial new requirement by the Department of Health and Human Services, which requires health insurance companies to cover contraceptive services for women, goes into effect.

I don't see the "free birth control to be given out on the corner like PEZ so sluts and whores can f*ck" part.


I guess you are a big fan of tons of tax dollars going to pay to prevent millions of poor women being able to keep their babies from starving.

Unless you are a fan of millions of babies starving.

Which I wouldn't doubt.
2012-08-01 09:27:32 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: There, I fixed it.


I'm glad you agree. It was a strawman your guy set up from the beginning to make people look like 'freeloaders, like the so-called "welfare queens"of the Reagan era. I hope you'll drop him an email and tell him to stop mischaracterizing the issue and lying to the public.
2012-08-01 09:24:39 PM
1 votes:
I feel really lucky to have escaped the apparent epidemic of doctors dropping neonates on their heads in the delivery rooms back in the 50's-70's. It seems all the ones who did fall (heh) victim to this tragic epidemic have been getting elected in the Flyover states.
2012-08-01 09:22:50 PM
1 votes:

Phins: She sincerely believes that all laws should conform to the teachings of the Catholic church, because the church wants what's best for you. So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.


That just means she hasn't taken the next step to universalize her position and see why it can't work as a social policy. I'm sure many mullahs of Saudi Arabia would agree with her sentiment, except with regard to Islam. If she were living there, she would want the protection of official secularity, just like minorities like the American Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist communities have always embraced in the U.S.A. You could slowly guide her towards this position--to see herself from the position of others.
2012-08-01 09:18:51 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: I don't know how insurance works


FTFY
2012-08-01 09:02:31 PM
1 votes:

Skyrmion: It depends on your insurance plan. On my plan, BC was not covered by insurance (at all) before today. (And no, I do not work for a religious organization.)


What's funny is there are several states where birth control coverage was mandatory because of state laws. And yet somehow that wasn't a problem. Or perhaps certain people weren't aware that there are states that are already mandate its coverage.
2012-08-01 08:54:53 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: The only way you're not paying for someone's birth control now is if you don't have insurance at all. The only difference now is that it must be covered with no copay. Or did you think that birth control wasn't covered by insurance before today?


It depends on your insurance plan. On my plan, BC was not covered by insurance (at all) before today. (And no, I do not work for a religious organization.)
2012-08-01 08:43:02 PM
1 votes:

paygun: Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.

Although I support mandated birth control coverage, if the government mandates that all insurers cover it then it doesn't really matter that it's private insurance. The only way you won't be paying for it is if you don't have insurance at all.


The only way you're not paying for someone's birth control now is if you don't have insurance at all. The only difference now is that it must be covered with no copay. Or did you think that birth control wasn't covered by insurance before today?
2012-08-01 08:31:05 PM
1 votes:

thamike: Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.

Just...I mean, really, what can you do? Anybody who has found their way to that conclusion is never going to find their way out again, so why bother?


This point of view is the same one that will decry high unemployment with one breath and in the next say these lazy welfare cheats should get off their butts and find a job like honest Amurrikans. It's like their brains are firing completely randomly.
2012-08-01 08:15:31 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Yeah, folks NOT having unwanted babies, THAT'S the real enemy...


If people stop having so many abortions, how will the GOP be able to campaign against it?
2012-08-01 08:04:46 PM
1 votes:

Phins: She sincerely believes that all laws should conform to the teachings of the Catholic church, because the church wants what's best for you.


I bet she just loves JFK's address to the Greater Houston Ministerial Association.
2012-08-01 07:41:24 PM
1 votes:

whidbey: Can you imagine what kind of government we would have if people were less apathetic in their daily lives and more involved in their community political process?


*peers into mind's eye*

A functioning one.

That's unAmerican.
2012-08-01 07:33:10 PM
1 votes:
I weep for our once great nation.

Before, Americans understood that this nation was special. It was unique. The US, and it's people, were chosen for a higher purpose. God blessed America.

But now? Thanks to liberals and feminists and non-Christians, we have fallen. We have degraded to the point where we actually believe that we control our own lives and our own choices. That we can choose to not be heterosexual. That we can choose to not be Christian. That we can choose if we want children. What hubris! Those are not our choices to make. The choices in our lives belong only to God.

We have turned away Him, and he has forsaken us. Our country suffers. Look and despair!

/religion is scary
2012-08-01 07:29:32 PM
1 votes:
Phins: So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.

Including the LAW OF LIMBO, and all the babies who used to be there but are apparently supposed to be somewhere else now since the Church decided to get rid of LIMBO?

And what if they decide that the Earth is the center of the universe again? And would they repeal the law of gravity?
2012-08-01 07:21:25 PM
1 votes:

Phins: So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.


Did you punch her tell her about the existence of Vatican City?
2012-08-01 07:15:50 PM
1 votes:

Phins: She sincerely believes that all laws should conform to the teachings of the Catholic church, because the church wants what's best for you. So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.


Typical christian. No surprises there. At least she wears her craziness on her sleeve instead of hiding behind church doors like the rest of them. Bring on lions I say.
2012-08-01 07:13:27 PM
1 votes:
NeoCortex42: I don't get this "religious freedom" argument against insurance coverage of birth control. Nobody is being forced to use it. Paying into something that may use money to give someone else something you disagree with already happens all the time through taxes. What about people whose religion is against killing with no exceptions? Do they get to not pay taxes because that money might eventually be used to supply the military?

I had this conversation with a woman who is a fundie/Catholic. She's a shoe-in for the gold medal in mental gymnastics. Essentially, anything that anyone is doing that is not what the Catholic church proscribes is interfering with her freedom of religion. People using birth control (other than NFP) is wrong and just being subjected to knowing that people use it violates her freedom.

She (via insurance) doesn't want to pay for other people's BC; if she's paying into a system that provides birth control, especially free birth control, that violates her freedoms. I pointed out (with references) that free contraception will lower insurance costs, meaning she's really not paying for it. No, if it's in the plan it violates her freedom and she would happily pay higher premiums for insurance that doesn't cover BC (despite the fact that she has 3 kids and her husband's a grad student).

I pointed out that half the pregnancies in this country are unplanned and that's where abortions come from, so more birth control=fewer abortions. She denies that and anyway the solution is to outlaw abortion, not use evil birth control to lower the number of abortions.

When the whole groupon/kink.com thing was happening, she was shocked (seriously) to find out that people had BDSM sex. It's wrong, wrong for everyone and no one should be doing it. And yes, it violates her freedom of religion when people have BDSM sex because it makes society more coarse and prevents her from raising her children in a society that conforms to Catholicism.

She sincerely believes that all laws should conform to the teachings of the Catholic church, because the church wants what's best for you. So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.
2012-08-01 07:08:48 PM
1 votes:

Antimatter: cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.

Since when are the 'tax payers' paying my private medical insurance, you know, the folks who have to cover contraceptives without a copay? I could have sworn I payed premiums every month for my coverage.


This is a guy who probably thinks "Obamacare" means that we get single-payer.

As if that will ever happen in my lifetime.
2012-08-01 07:00:47 PM
1 votes:

Orange-Pippin: Pennsylvania Rep...

Bummer. Just so everyone knows, this state is still very beautiful

.


I've been there and I agree. It is.

You just have a bunch of very ugly people who feel the need to elect diptards like this to office.
2012-08-01 06:59:09 PM
1 votes:
cchris_39:
No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.
The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.



In the article the Rep never mentioned "paying for oneself." He intentionally dragged Religion and God into the argument in order to win brownie points and to accumulate a few more votes.
2012-08-01 06:48:00 PM
1 votes:

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


The American taxpayer pays for a lot of healthcare. WHICH IS A HUMAN RIGHT. And now, that's going to include birth control too. YAY! We win, you lose! Again!

My preference is that the Air Force buys boondoggle bombers with bake sales. They aren't entitled to MY money either!

And, guess what, conservative: You're also entitled to drink a nice hot cup of STFU
2012-08-01 06:47:19 PM
1 votes:
Pennsylvania Rep...

Bummer. Just so everyone knows, this state is still very beautiful

I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates.

I just love how this person tries to speak for all Christians (pretty sure he's referring to Christians). It's pretty annoying. This is exactly why the state and religion have to remain separate.
2012-08-01 06:37:43 PM
1 votes:

lawboy87: Medal of Honor Winner just delivered a big dose of: YOU FAIL, Congressman, YOU FAIL, to Kelly


MOH winner Sen. Daniel Inouye (my bad)
2012-08-01 06:36:26 PM
1 votes:
Medal of Honor Winner just delivered a big dose of: YOU FAIL, Congressman, YOU FAIL, to Kelly.


Pointed out what a farking idiot the guy was to compare providing health care to women to the death and destruction that was Pearl Harbor. Delivered in a way and with the force only someone who was there could really explain.
2012-08-01 06:07:26 PM
1 votes:
"This is a right that every American should be outraged, outraged about what this administration and Secretary Sibelius has set forth here on August the 1st," New York Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R) said at the same press conference as Kelly. "

Turns out most people like contraception more than your shiatty religion.
2012-08-01 05:59:16 PM
1 votes:

Alphax: Some day very soon, we Americans will have to stand up, and tell the Republicans: No More.


It had better BE "very soon."

I really don't think we have the luxury of dancing around the issue for another couple of decades...
2012-08-01 05:57:59 PM
1 votes:
Some day very soon, we Americans will have to stand up, and tell the Republicans: No More.
2012-08-01 05:56:19 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: whidbey: They were all sent to the Farkistan Gulags during the Great Troll Purge of 2012. Good farking riddance, too.

Oh, please. Threads still light up in plenty of yellow when I open them. The League of FAIL is as strong as ever.


Not the same LOF, though. Happily those dipsh*ts are gone.
2012-08-01 05:48:38 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: Yoo-hoo, League of FAIL! Where are you? Come out to defend this Real American and his not-at-all hyperbolic position!


They were all sent to the Farkistan Gulags during the Great Troll Purge of 2012. Good farking riddance, too.
2012-08-01 05:47:36 PM
1 votes:

Jaws_Victim: Philip Francis Queeg: Jaws_Victim: FTFA:

"This is a right that every American should be outraged, outraged about what this administration and Secretary Sibelius has set forth here on August the 1st," New York Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R) said at the same press conference as Kelly. "And as Mike said, August the 1st is a day that we as American will look at as the largest assault on our First Amendment rights."

I don't get it. It's like an entire side of Congress and generation of hatemongers is doing EVERYTHING In their power to make sure I never, ever vote for them. It feels so terrible knowing that they will win in a landslide in the next election.

The really farking sickening thing about this derp is that they thin forcing people to indirectly pay for contraception is an assault on religious freedom , but forcing people to pay for wars is just hunky dory to them.

I still fail to see how allowing contraception, a way of lowering the abortion and STD rate while encouraging sexual responsibility, is an assault on someone else's religious freedom. It's an assault on your ability to smugly deny someone the right to purchase condoms or pills with insurance, but too farking bad. If you want to selectively choose how you dole out health care, become a witch doctor. Health care is for those who want to help people and make them better, not condemn and hate them and wish them to death.


You're doomed because you're approaching this based on reason and based on listening to what they are saying.

The goal is to punish women for sex because it frightens them.

We need to purge them and burn the bodies frankly.
2012-08-01 05:42:56 PM
1 votes:

Soup4Bonnie: breadprincess: I take hormonal bc to control a chronic disease I have that causes severe pain and my insurance won't cover it because it's a "lifestyle choice".

Some radio personalities would take that as an opening to rant for three days about what a slut you are and demand you post videos of your sex life on the internet. And many would listen and laud those comments.


Of course they would.

They've got a Socialist they've got to vote out of office.
2012-08-01 05:26:37 PM
1 votes:

LordJiro: don't understand: It used to be funny when these morons said sh*t like this. But now it's downright sad.

Stick a fork in America the Republican party. She's done.

FTFY.

The Republican party is self destructing. They're increasingly relying on the lunatics of their base, and as they legitimize the loons, the loons push out the less-loony.

Eventually, the Republican party will consist of two people, each screaming at the other for being a RINO because they refuse to cut off their left foot for being too leftist.


I'm hoping the end-game of this is that the Tea Party finishes taking over the GOP, while "moderate Republicans" form a third party that eventually replaces the current GOP. Then again, moderate Republicans are now just called Democrats. We need a working two-party system, not Democrats and anti-Democrats.
2012-08-01 05:26:16 PM
1 votes:

LordJiro: don't understand: It used to be funny when these morons said sh*t like this. But now it's downright sad.

Stick a fork in America the Republican party. She's done.

FTFY.

The Republican party is self destructing. They're increasingly relying on the lunatics of their base, and as they legitimize the loons, the loons push out the less-loony.

Eventually, the Republican party will consist of two people, each screaming at the other for being a RINO because they refuse to cut off their left foot for being too leftist.


Self-destructing or not, supposedly half the country still supports them, so I wouldn't be calling it done just yet.

Half this country is mentally/philosophically farked beyond belief, they hate the idea of social justice and any kind of collectivism whatsoever, so they cling to the burning sinking pile of sh*t.
2012-08-01 05:24:48 PM
1 votes:
i46.tinypic.com
2012-08-01 05:23:42 PM
1 votes:
FTFA:

"This is a right that every American should be outraged, outraged about what this administration and Secretary Sibelius has set forth here on August the 1st," New York Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R) said at the same press conference as Kelly. "And as Mike said, August the 1st is a day that we as American will look at as the largest assault on our First Amendment rights."

I don't get it. It's like an entire side of Congress and generation of hatemongers is doing EVERYTHING In their power to make sure I never, ever vote for them. It feels so terrible knowing that they will win in a landslide in the next election.
2012-08-01 05:22:46 PM
1 votes:

don't understand: It used to be funny when these morons said sh*t like this. But now it's downright sad.

Stick a fork in America the Republican party. She's done.


FTFY.

The Republican party is self destructing. They're increasingly relying on the lunatics of their base, and as they legitimize the loons, the loons push out the less-loony.

Eventually, the Republican party will consist of two people, each screaming at the other for being a RINO because they refuse to cut off their left foot for being too leftist.
2012-08-01 05:21:54 PM
1 votes:
What does the bible say about silphium? It existed at the time of Jesus, and really sparked a bunch of loose sex in the ancient world. And if Luke was really a medical person then he'd have known about it.
2012-08-01 05:20:12 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: NeoCortex42: I don't get this "religious freedom" argument against insurance coverage of birth control. Nobody is being forced to use it. Paying into something that may use money to give someone else something you disagree with already happens all the time through taxes. What about people whose religion is against killing with no exceptions? Do they get to not pay taxes because that money might eventually be used to supply the military?

Nope.

Money is fungible according to the Supreme Court.


Well except for Citizen United. When it's foreigners investing money to companies, that money is magically distinguishable.
2012-08-01 05:18:18 PM
1 votes:

don't understand: It used to be funny when these morons said sh*t like this. But now it's downright sad.

Stick a fork in America. She's done.


Yeah it really isn't the arch-conservative backwards country that Mike Derpy thinks should exist.
2012-08-01 05:11:48 PM
1 votes:
As your voting base gets littler
and your mind becomes brittler
just rip out a page
of the Book of Rage
and say your opponent is Hitler.

Link
2012-08-01 05:10:25 PM
1 votes:
Also, FTA: "..and President Obama subsequently announced a compromise in which employers wouldn't be forced to offer insurance plans that cover contraception, but insurance companies would be required to offer coverage to women who wish to purchase it. Republicans rejected the compromise, and subsequently attempted several times to advance legislation to reverse the mandate. "

Why would they have any problem with this compromise? It solves the exact problem they're complaining about. Or are they hoping that employers get to choose whether employees use contraception at all, regardless of who pays for it?
2012-08-01 05:09:06 PM
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: I don't get this "religious freedom" argument against insurance coverage of birth control. Nobody is being forced to use it. Paying into something that may use money to give someone else something you disagree with already happens all the time through taxes. What about people whose religion is against killing with no exceptions? Do they get to not pay taxes because that money might eventually be used to supply the military?


Nope.

Money is fungible according to the Supreme Court.
2012-08-01 05:07:53 PM
1 votes:
Yep. Keep electing these backward people to office, America.

Keep proving what the rest of the world already knows.
2012-08-01 05:06:07 PM
1 votes:
Anything to work in that winning 9-11 imagery, eh boyos? Stay classy.
2012-08-01 05:04:12 PM
1 votes:

GWLush: Is this such a disaster for them because people won't be getting as many abortions?


Oh, but they see every implantation that might not occur because of birth control as an abortion, and everyone that doesn't implant because of natural causes part of the mystery of god.

And the 1/3 of pregnancies that end in miscarriage? More of God's Divine Plan.
2012-08-01 05:02:59 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Yeah, folks NOT having unwanted babies, THAT'S the real enemy...


To be fair, the type of people who vote for Mike Kelly do not have a shot at getting a decent mate unless they knock her up real good.
2012-08-01 05:02:35 PM
1 votes:
"And as Mike said, August the 1st is a day that we as American will look at as the largest assault on our First Amendment rights."

Because Christians will be hunted down and slaughtered just for praying after today.

i can't worship Jesus openly because that woman over there is taking birth control.

Or something. I really can't get a handle on their argument. Anyone want to help me out?
2012-08-01 04:57:45 PM
1 votes:
"I know in your mind you can think of times when America was attacked. One is December 7th, that's Pearl Harbor day. The other is September 11th, and that's the day of the terrorist attack," Kelly said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. "I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates."

Oh F*CK YOU, asshole.
2012-08-01 04:55:47 PM
1 votes:

Donnchadha: But if you're married, a child is the holy expression of matrimonial love and should always be welcomed as God's gift to the couple


Even if it's an ectopic pregnancy or a harlequin baby. God loves you SO much!
2012-08-01 04:50:01 PM
1 votes:
They do know married couples in committed relationships also like to have SEX without risking a child they do not want and/or are able to have. It's not just the sluts.

/For the record I have no problem with sluts, in fact I like sluts.
2012-08-01 04:39:20 PM
1 votes:

Blues_X: I have no words to express how much disgust I feel for every one of these goddamned moronic idiots.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU OR YOUR FAMILY TO USE THE CONTRACEPTIVES, SHIATHEADS!


Well, in Rep. Kelly's case, his mother should have been forced to swallow the load he was swimming around in.
2012-08-01 04:39:13 PM
1 votes:
F*cking disgusting.

Is there no filter anymore between a Republican's brain and his or her mouth? Do they just not bother to inhibit themselves from saying every stupid bullsh*t offensive thought that enters the barely functional and increasingly unhinged minds of theirs?

WHY THE F*CK DO IDIOTS LIKE THIS KEEP GETTING ELECTED?!?!
2012-08-01 04:38:30 PM
1 votes:
VIAGRA.......totally covered.
2012-08-01 04:37:50 PM
1 votes:

vernonFL: If the Founding Fathers of this nation believed that, 236 years later, a black President would be giving free birth control to women, they wouldn't have started the American Revolution. boned all those 12 y/o slaves of theirs.

2012-08-01 04:36:00 PM
1 votes:

qorkfiend: FlashHarry: the republican party has lost it. it has gone completely batshiat, bugfark insane. it may win an election or two in the next decade, but it is in its death throes.

We've been saying that for quite some time, though. It doesn't seem to have had a noticeable effect on the GOP's electoral chances.


For a good example; see earlier thread on Texas election that went to a Tea-bagger.
2012-08-01 04:31:24 PM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: the republican party has lost it. it has gone completely batshiat, bugfark insane. it may win an election or two in the next decade, but it is in its death throes.


We've been saying that for quite some time, though. It doesn't seem to have had a noticeable effect on the GOP's electoral chances.
2012-08-01 04:06:47 PM
1 votes:
Hey does anyone know if birth control still works if you take steroid eye drops?

I'm asking...for a friend?
2012-08-01 03:51:38 PM
1 votes:
Mike Kelley is one of my favorite visual artists. He did stuff with stuffed animals. His work always made me happy. I am sorry that he passed away in January. I don't know this other Mike Kelly and I don't think I want to.

I had no idea he was in Destroy All Monsters (the band). Jesus, that guy did a lot of stuff that makes me happy.
2012-08-01 03:50:13 PM
1 votes:
Yes, because allowing women to determine when they choose to become pregnant is the same as a surprise bombing attack and hijacked planes downing skyscrapers. They are exactly the same thing. Kudos to you Mr. Kelly for cracking the case.
2012-08-01 03:38:47 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: vernonFL: If the Founding Fathers of this nation believed that, 236 years later, a black President would be giving free birth control to women, they wouldn't have started the American Revolution.

Stupid or trolling? Stupid or trolling? I'm gonna have to go with...both.


C) Sarcasm.
2012-08-01 03:33:27 PM
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: hubiestubert: Blues_X: I have no words to express how much disgust I feel for every one of these goddamned moronic idiots.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU OR YOUR FAMILY TO USE THE CONTRACEPTIVES, SHIATHEADS!

THEIR KIDS WILL BE TEMPTED TO USE BIRTH CONTROL IF IT'S AVAILABLE! WHY ARE PEOPLE TEMPTING GOOD CHRISTIANS TO NOT BE PREGNANT?

The devil made them do it.


What's entertaining, is that more often than not, these folks likewise complain about the Nanny State. Yet, they expect for folks to "think of the children!" and keep their precious snowflakes from being exposed to dirty thoughts, sex ed, differing faiths, evolution, or anything that they don't like...
2012-08-01 03:20:36 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: Blues_X: I have no words to express how much disgust I feel for every one of these goddamned moronic idiots.

NO ONE IS FORCING YOU OR YOUR FAMILY TO USE THE CONTRACEPTIVES, SHIATHEADS!

THEIR KIDS WILL BE TEMPTED TO USE BIRTH CONTROL IF IT'S AVAILABLE! WHY ARE PEOPLE TEMPTING GOOD CHRISTIANS TO NOT BE PREGNANT?


The devil made them do it.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-08-01 03:17:44 PM
1 votes:

CapeFearCadaver: Jesus farking christ. What the hell is wrong with people, and why the hell do the keep getting into elected positions?


The same thing that's the matter with the people who vote for them, and that's why.
2012-08-01 03:10:36 PM
1 votes:
So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?
2012-08-01 03:10:02 PM
1 votes:

Because People in power are Stupid: This is repugnant and insulting to the people who died in those tragedies.


You mean...sperm?
 
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