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2012-08-01 08:21:11 PM  

cchris_39: Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on welfare?!?

No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.
 
2012-08-01 08:23:42 PM  

Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.


Just...I mean, really, what can you do? Anybody who has found their way to that conclusion is never going to find their way out again, so why bother?
 
2012-08-01 08:26:13 PM  

Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.


Although I support mandated birth control coverage, if the government mandates that all insurers cover it then it doesn't really matter that it's private insurance. The only way you won't be paying for it is if you don't have insurance at all.
 
2012-08-01 08:31:05 PM  

thamike: Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.

Just...I mean, really, what can you do? Anybody who has found their way to that conclusion is never going to find their way out again, so why bother?


This point of view is the same one that will decry high unemployment with one breath and in the next say these lazy welfare cheats should get off their butts and find a job like honest Amurrikans. It's like their brains are firing completely randomly.
 
2012-08-01 08:43:02 PM  

paygun: Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.

Although I support mandated birth control coverage, if the government mandates that all insurers cover it then it doesn't really matter that it's private insurance. The only way you won't be paying for it is if you don't have insurance at all.


The only way you're not paying for someone's birth control now is if you don't have insurance at all. The only difference now is that it must be covered with no copay. Or did you think that birth control wasn't covered by insurance before today?
 
2012-08-01 08:52:34 PM  

breadprincess: Okay, fark this noise. I am so, SO relieved that health insurance has to cover birth control. I take hormonal bc to control a chronic disease I have that causes severe pain and my insurance won't cover it because it's a "lifestyle choice". Fark you Blue Cross Blue Shield, I didn't choose to live a life of debilitating pain. Because of my health I can't work very much and while bc isn't crazy expensive, it would be nice to have it covered so I have one less bill to worry about.


I can understand the argument birth control (along with Viagra) is a lifestyle drug and people can pay for their own damn sex, but coverage for medical use like you're describing is a total no-brainer. It's messed up that it wasn't always covered.
 
2012-08-01 08:54:53 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: The only way you're not paying for someone's birth control now is if you don't have insurance at all. The only difference now is that it must be covered with no copay. Or did you think that birth control wasn't covered by insurance before today?


It depends on your insurance plan. On my plan, BC was not covered by insurance (at all) before today. (And no, I do not work for a religious organization.)
 
2012-08-01 08:59:21 PM  
FreeWhen somebody else pays for your birth control

There, I fixed it.
 
2012-08-01 09:02:31 PM  

Skyrmion: It depends on your insurance plan. On my plan, BC was not covered by insurance (at all) before today. (And no, I do not work for a religious organization.)


What's funny is there are several states where birth control coverage was mandatory because of state laws. And yet somehow that wasn't a problem. Or perhaps certain people weren't aware that there are states that are already mandate its coverage.
 
2012-08-01 09:18:51 PM  

randomjsa: I don't know how insurance works


FTFY
 
2012-08-01 09:22:50 PM  

Phins: She sincerely believes that all laws should conform to the teachings of the Catholic church, because the church wants what's best for you. So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.


That just means she hasn't taken the next step to universalize her position and see why it can't work as a social policy. I'm sure many mullahs of Saudi Arabia would agree with her sentiment, except with regard to Islam. If she were living there, she would want the protection of official secularity, just like minorities like the American Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist communities have always embraced in the U.S.A. You could slowly guide her towards this position--to see herself from the position of others.
 
2012-08-01 09:24:39 PM  
I feel really lucky to have escaped the apparent epidemic of doctors dropping neonates on their heads in the delivery rooms back in the 50's-70's. It seems all the ones who did fall (heh) victim to this tragic epidemic have been getting elected in the Flyover states.
 
2012-08-01 09:25:34 PM  

Mrtraveler01: randomjsa: I don't know how insurance works

FTFY


Exactly.

STFU random, you COCK
 
2012-08-01 09:27:32 PM  

randomjsa: There, I fixed it.


I'm glad you agree. It was a strawman your guy set up from the beginning to make people look like 'freeloaders, like the so-called "welfare queens"of the Reagan era. I hope you'll drop him an email and tell him to stop mischaracterizing the issue and lying to the public.
 
2012-08-01 09:46:57 PM  
Conservatives want to cut all the social safety nets for the 99%, and at the same time they are against the prevention of unwanted pregnancies? I think they're all crazy.
 
2012-08-01 09:49:06 PM  

thamike: Sgt Otter: IT'S FOR PRIVATE INSURANCE, YOU GODDAMN MORAN.

Just...I mean, really, what can you do? Anybody who has found their way to that conclusion is never going to find their way out again, so why bother?


Unfortunately, this. I just have lost the will to try and get through to the rubes.
 
2012-08-01 10:08:19 PM  

cchris_39: No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.


Dude, you're not paying for my insurance.

The unwanted kids aren't paying their way, though, and are getting free health care AND food on our dime. I can understand your outrage over the refusal of these lazy bums to go out and get jobs. They definitely should be put out on the streets and allowed to starve to death.
 
2012-08-01 10:08:25 PM  

Lorelle: So...the GOP would prefer more abortions or more unwanted kids on whom to deny welfare?!?


Bingo.
 
2012-08-01 10:13:25 PM  
I once knew a hooker named Minnie Mazola. A day that will live in inflammation.
 
2012-08-01 10:15:36 PM  
Wednesday marked the day on which a controversial new requirement by the Department of Health and Human Services, which requires health insurance companies to cover contraceptive services for women, goes into effect.

I don't see the "free birth control to be given out on the corner like PEZ so sluts and whores can f*ck" part.
 
2012-08-01 10:15:54 PM  
George Joseph "Mike" Kelly, Jr.[1] (born May 10, 1948) is the U.S. Representative for Pennsylvania's 3rd congressional district. He is a member of the Republican Party, and a total douchebag.

His wiki is surprisingly accurate.
 
2012-08-01 10:58:16 PM  

Raspil: Wednesday marked the day on which a controversial new requirement by the Department of Health and Human Services, which requires health insurance companies to cover contraceptive services for women, goes into effect.

I don't see the "free birth control to be given out on the corner like PEZ so sluts and whores can f*ck" part.


I guess you are a big fan of tons of tax dollars going to pay to prevent millions of poor women being able to keep their babies from starving.

Unless you are a fan of millions of babies starving.

Which I wouldn't doubt.
 
2012-08-01 11:09:46 PM  

Aarontology: THINK OF MILLIONS OF SPERMS THAT ARE PRE-MURDERED THANKS TO FARTBONGO


Actually, that was Clinton, though he was dumb enough to trust the cleaning of the crime scene to a government clerk who just shoved it in the closet.
 
2012-08-01 11:19:43 PM  
I have wiped entire civilizations off of my chest with a grey gym sock.
 
2012-08-01 11:38:53 PM  
Wow. Extreme ignorance of the topic, extreme religious reaction to what other people do, and extremely idiotic comparison of public health care and womens' rights to two events were Americans were attacked by outside forces as part of fear tactics. This is the purest form of insanity, people.

I'm surprised he didn't go on to compare homosexuals to rapists and pedophiles, blame Obama for the Great Depression, and say natural disasters around the world are God's way of lashing out at America for allowing the homogay.
 
2012-08-01 11:41:04 PM  

Donnchadha: soaboutthat: They do know married couples in committed relationships also like to have SEX without risking a child they do not want and/or are able to have. It's not just the sluts.

/For the record I have no problem with sluts, in fact I like sluts.

But if you're married, a child is the holy expression of matrimonial love and should always be welcomed as God's gift to the couple


I think I'm going to use that line the next time a Republican biatches about "welfare queens" having more kids than they can afford.

Done know why that never occurred to me until now.
 
2012-08-01 11:55:27 PM  

I should be in the kitchen: Donnchadha: soaboutthat: They do know married couples in committed relationships also like to have SEX without risking a child they do not want and/or are able to have. It's not just the sluts.

/For the record I have no problem with sluts, in fact I like sluts.

But if you're married, a child is the holy expression of matrimonial love and should always be welcomed as God's gift to the couple

I think I'm going to use that line the next time a Republican biatches about "welfare queens" having more kids than they can afford.

Done know why that never occurred to me until now.


They'll either wiffle and waffle something about personal responsibility and imply that you should never have sex unless you are willing to pay for it with money, children, and/or punishment from god; or they'll scream YOUR AN RACIST! YOU WANTS MINORITIES TO DIE LIKE WHATSERNAME WHO STARTED PLANNED PARENTHOOD! DIDJA KNOW SHE WAS A NAZI?!?! (even though you didn't bring up minorities, abortion, or Planned Parenthood and that's a lie).

Really though, that's as close as it gets to a win, so have at.
 
2012-08-02 12:16:49 AM  

StewPie: His wiki is surprisingly accurate.


Hahaha, oh shiat, I thought you were kidding. +1 to whoever did that.
 
2012-08-02 12:28:23 AM  

breadprincess: Okay, fark this noise. I am so, SO relieved that health insurance has to cover birth control. I take hormonal bc to control a chronic disease I have that causes severe pain and my insurance won't cover it because it's a "lifestyle choice". Fark you Blue Cross Blue Shield, I didn't choose to live a life of debilitating pain. Because of my health I can't work very much and while bc isn't crazy expensive, it would be nice to have it covered so I have one less bill to worry about.


I know. $300 more a year gets to stay in my pocket. 'tis awesome.

Benign ovarian cysts (and pain cause of it) + crazy irregular cycle. I went off for awhile. Went back after a going-on-9-weeks-without-a-period drawn out increasing heart attack.

Agreed on the FU to BCBS, but they all suck and this was REALLY necessary. My workplace is incredibly liberal but we aren't large enough to negotiate much on the insurance buying floor. Pay the same for BC as I did with BCBS.

Not anymore. Effin' a.
 
2012-08-02 12:34:29 AM  

Phins: So a country where the laws match her interpretation of Catholicism would be the best for everyone.


Unfortunately those twits are loud.

It's really funny - I did Catholic leadership whatnot growing up in high school. So I went to plenty of different churches.

There was always one, at MOST two, families in each suburban or upper class church who weren't using birth control. At my own church, one family had 6 or 7 kids. Everyone else had 1-2, 3 *max*.

In any case, I need to take mine for NON contraceptive reasons (that I'm less likely to have a baby is just bonus). So eff you, lady.
 
2012-08-02 12:37:25 AM  

I should be in the kitchen: Donnchadha: soaboutthat: They do know married couples in committed relationships also like to have SEX without risking a child they do not want and/or are able to have. It's not just the sluts.

/For the record I have no problem with sluts, in fact I like sluts.

But if you're married, a child is the holy expression of matrimonial love and should always be welcomed as God's gift to the couple

I think I'm going to use that line the next time a Republican biatches about "welfare queens" having more kids than they can afford.

Done know why that never occurred to me until now.


It's occurred to me, but I couldn't think of a succinct way to put it.

"So people with too many kids is A-OK as long as they're married? Even if they're on every kind of welfare under the sun? Because that's their holy expression of God's love etc.? Thanks, glad we got that straightened out."
 
2012-08-02 12:46:31 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Phins: So a country where the laws match her interpretation of Catholicism would be the best for everyone.

Unfortunately those twits are loud.

It's really funny - I did Catholic leadership whatnot growing up in high school. So I went to plenty of different churches.

There was always one, at MOST two, families in each suburban or upper class church who weren't using birth control. At my own church, one family had 6 or 7 kids. Everyone else had 1-2, 3 *max*.

In any case, I need to take mine for NON contraceptive reasons (that I'm less likely to have a baby is just bonus). So eff you, lady.


My parents were so Catholic you could call them Papists. Yet when I snuck into their bedroom to get the cool books from my Dad's shelf, I found condoms in their bedside table.
 
2012-08-02 12:58:59 AM  
Phins: She sincerely believes that all laws should conform to the teachings of the Catholic church, because the church wants what's best for you. So a country where the laws match Catholicism would be the best for everyone.

Somacandra: That just means she hasn't taken the next step to universalize her position and see why it can't work as a social policy. I'm sure many mullahs of Saudi Arabia would agree with her sentiment, except with regard to Islam. If she were living there, she would want the protection of official secularity, just like minorities like the American Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist communities have always embraced in the U.S.A. You could slowly guide her towards this position--to see herself from the position of others.

Well of course Christianity should be protected in those countries, because it's the right religion. The others are wrong religions that shouldn't be protected and most definitely shouldn't be imposed on people as it is in some Muslim countries. And people of other religions in the US would be so much better off if they followed the teachings of her church. I tried to point out that the first amendment works both ways, protecting religion from government, but also protecting government from religion. She disagrees, the 1st amendment only protects religion from government, not the other way around.

Her view of herself from the position of others is that they should see she's right. I've tried, very hard, to get her to see the point of view of others, of women who use BC for non-medical reasons, of women who would be risking their health or even their lives if they became pregnant, of women who simply can't afford a child, etc. but it's hopeless. They should all use NFP or nothing. She's okay with the concept of trying to avoid pregnance, but only if it's done via NFP. Doing it any other way, for any reason, is wrong. I find it incredibly frustrating that she can't see that other people make other choices and that's up to them. I've told her that I don't care what the Catholic church says because I'm not Catholic. I've pointed out that I don't condemn her choices even though they're clearly not the choices I've made (childfree, planning to stay that way and very happy about it). There's no reasoning with her. She believes that all her positions and opinions are her independent thinking and they just happen to be the same as the positions as the church.
 
2012-08-02 01:42:59 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little


That's part of the problem. He just needs to go run for pope or something and leave this country alone.
 
2012-08-02 01:45:34 AM  

Bucky Katt: MaudlinMutantMollusk: STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little

That's part of the problem. He just needs to go run for pope or something and leave this country alone.


I don't know why Maudlin mixed up the words.

/F*cking little chickens.
 
2012-08-02 01:51:12 AM  

Sabyen91: Bucky Katt: MaudlinMutantMollusk: STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little

That's part of the problem. He just needs to go run for pope or something and leave this country alone.

I don't know why Maudlin mixed up the words.

/F*cking little chickens.


I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia
 
2012-08-02 02:02:46 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sabyen91: Bucky Katt: MaudlinMutantMollusk: STFU and GBTW

/f*cking chicken little

That's part of the problem. He just needs to go run for pope or something and leave this country alone.

I don't know why Maudlin mixed up the words.

/F*cking little chickens.

I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia


I understand. I don't like to think about those poor chickens, either.
 
2012-08-02 02:03:54 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia


I prefer sexlexia, myself.
 
2012-08-02 02:06:57 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia

I prefer sexlexia, myself.


I like you more and more.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-02 02:07:17 AM  

Sabyen91:

/F*cking little chickens.



Kind of explains the "outrage" of the past 4 years.
 
2012-08-02 02:09:52 AM  

whidbey: Sabyen91:

/F*cking little chickens.

Kind of explains the "outrage" of the past 4 years.


They should let the poor chickens reach adulthood first.
 
2012-08-02 02:57:20 AM  

Lorelle: cchris_39: No.....and this will come as a shock to most liberals on here.......our actual preference is for you to PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

The fact that you feel "entitled" to something in no way obligates the American Taxpayer to pay for it.

Dude, you're not paying for my insurance.

The unwanted kids aren't paying their way, though, and are getting free health care AND food on our dime. I can understand your outrage over the refusal of these lazy bums to go out and get jobs. They definitely should be put out on the streets and allowed to starve to death.


1) No abortion, no birth control, defund Planned Parenthood.
2) Young women give birth to babies they can't raise.
3) Deny all all assistance to said babies.
4) Babies grow up and become adults.
5) The rest of us meet said adults, with guns in their hands demanding money. Starving people have this funny habit of not starving quietly.
6) Publicans yell zOMG CRIME WAVE!
7) More heavy weaponry in the hands of local cops.
8) Profit! For the private prison industry and the purveyors of said heavy weaponry, that is.
 
2012-08-02 03:06:14 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: 8) Profit! For the private prison industry and the purveyors of said heavy weaponry, that is.


Honestly, I think the current GOP's bought into what they're spewing. I really don't think they can think far enough ahead to pull something like that off.
 
2012-08-02 03:59:13 AM  

Sabyen91: Fluorescent Testicle: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I suffer from sporadic bouts of lesdyxia

I prefer sexlexia, myself.

I like you more and more.

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]


Thanks,I didn't need any hentai right before bed.
 
2012-08-02 04:02:32 AM  
"I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom busybody-meddlers. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates."

/fixed

//Control-happy social/religious conservatives are the most persecuted people on the planet.

\\\and you thought I was going to say something about slashies...doh.
 
2012-08-02 04:06:31 AM  

themindiswatching: Lee Jackson Beauregard: 8) Profit! For the private prison industry and the purveyors of said heavy weaponry, that is.

Honestly, I think the current GOP's bought into what they're spewing. I really don't think they can think far enough ahead to pull something like that off.


It's a complete disconnect between the various arguments. There are several, and most of them really are mutually incompatible:

1. Unemployment is at an all time high! People can't get jobs! BUT
2. Poor people should go to work and stop leeching off the government.

1. Single moms shouldn't have so many babies they can't afford! BUT
2. We're not going to help raise those babies! She should have thought of that before she got pregnant!

1. We don't want single-payer health insurance! It's infringing on our rights! BUT
2. People who don't have insurance should have thought of that before they got sick!

1. We need more cops and prisons to punish criminals! BUT
2. We don't want to pay for people not to become criminals in the first place.

And on and on and on and on....
 
2012-08-02 04:17:00 AM  
They should have just been jackin' it in San Diego.
 
2012-08-02 04:22:34 AM  

Gyrfalcon: 1. Unemployment is at an all time high! People can't get jobs! BUT
2. Poor people should go to work and stop leeching off the government.


The local political ads lately: "I'm going to cut spending, and put people back to work!" Usually said by someone who claims to be a Job Creator.
 
2012-08-02 05:28:38 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Wow. Extreme ignorance of the topic, extreme religious reaction to what other people do, and extremely idiotic comparison of public health care and womens' rights to two events were Americans were attacked by outside forces as part of fear tactics. This is the purest form of insanity, people.

I'm surprised he didn't go on to compare homosexuals to rapists and pedophiles, blame Obama for the Great Depression, and say natural disasters around the world are God's way of lashing out at America for allowing the homogay.


Ya know 15 years ago what you said would be over the top but really I am surprised in today's world the guy was able to limit it to just that. I can't believe were we've sunk to.
 
2012-08-02 06:46:42 AM  
I think birth control should be retroactively mandatory for Rep. Mike Kelley's mother.
 
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