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(The Hill)   Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah): "This cyber-security bill is good. But, the only way we can really make the Internet safe is through outlawing abortion"   (thehill.com ) divider line
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2012-08-01 10:36:50 PM  

shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.


OMG! Bob committed a terrible crime!

Yeah, well somebody else did it first.

Well, I guess it's fine then. Move along. Nothing to see here.
 
2012-08-01 10:42:27 PM  

Solid Muldoon: shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.

OMG! Bob committed a terrible crime!

Yeah, well somebody else did it first.

Well, I guess it's fine then. Move along. Nothing to see here.


Plenty to see here. It's just that we've seen it a billion times already.
 
2012-08-01 10:46:50 PM  

shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.


I recall many times that BOTH sides have been groused at for doing this shiat. But you continue on with your "US VS THEM ARGH RAAAR" idiocy.
 
2012-08-01 10:52:37 PM  
Oh the headline led me to believe that this would be a good place to find a nice chili recipe.
So. maybe I should read the article

having just read the article... meh ...anyone know a good chili recipe with habanero not too hot.
 
2012-08-01 10:53:38 PM  
It is one of the Repugnicans favorite things:

We did something horrible? Well, the Democrats did it first! Remember how we condemned them for doing it? Now that we are doing it, it's not so bad.

It's like how when they do something that people criticize, and their first resort is to say, "Clinton did it first!"

It like the Repugnicans are always saying that Clinton was the best President.
 
2012-08-01 10:53:46 PM  
So, I'm convinced. Do not google anything with the words "anal" plus "Republican" in the search.
 
2012-08-01 10:59:42 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.

I recall many times that BOTH sides have been groused at for doing this shiat. But you continue on with your "US VS THEM ARGH RAAAR" idiocy.


Because it IS us vs. them. Always has been, always will be. That's human nature and not changeable in a free society.
 
2012-08-01 11:00:44 PM  

Lanadapter: @shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!


That happened 4 years ago. The economy is now in a shambles.

Vote Republican, let's get that car of Obama's out of the ditch.
 
2012-08-01 11:13:07 PM  

shotglasss: Lanadapter: @shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!

That happened 4 years ago. The economy is now in a shambles.

Vote Republican, let's get that car of Obama's out of the ditch.


Wow, that is cluelessness defined. The car was in the ditch. Obama has been working hard to get it out, while the guys that drove it into the ditch have been doing their best to thwart him at every turn.

The Republicans said from day one that they would burn America to the ground if it would prevent that Negroid from getting another term. They haven't even bothered to lie about it.

Unless you were being satirical. If so, sorry.
 
2012-08-01 11:29:50 PM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.


Fun fact. The Constitution of the Confederate States of America had such a rule. Article I, Section 9, Clause 20:

Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.
 
2012-08-01 11:36:54 PM  

shotglasss: Lanadapter: @shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!

That happened 4 years ago. The economy is now in a shambles.

Vote Republican, let's get that car of Obama's out of the ditch.


That tears it. You're trolling. You've GOT to be trolling. NOBODY can be that completely, utterly stupid.
 
2012-08-01 11:40:06 PM  

elchip: tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.

Fun fact. The Constitution of the Confederate States of America had such a rule. Article I, Section 9, Clause 20:

Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.


See also Indiana Constitution Article 4, Section 19. Effectively meaningless.
 
2012-08-01 11:55:33 PM  

shotglasss: Keizer_Ghidorah: shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.

I recall many times that BOTH sides have been groused at for doing this shiat. But you continue on with your "US VS THEM ARGH RAAAR" idiocy.

Because it IS us vs. them. Always has been, always will be. That's human nature and not changeable in a free society.


I'm glad stupidity like your's isn't human nature, and that many of us haven't been conditioned by people like Rush, Hannity, Larson, and Savage to treat their fellow humans and Americans as enemies who need to be chased out and destroyed without mercy or conscience.

The economy collapsed before Obama came in. Everything he's tried to to to fix it has been opposed by the right, no matter what it is or what it does, because they're so immature and eptty that they'd rather let America self-destruct than allow that "filthy secret Muslim foreigner Negro" to have any kind of positive event occur. "If I can't have it, NO ONE CAN!!" is their de-facto mindset right now, and it's both sad and terrifying.
 
2012-08-02 12:02:48 AM  
I think anyone who introduces a bill which includes the description "and for other purposes" in the summary, or causes a bill to be amended to do so, they should be made available for public ridicule, censure, and taunting.

"And for other punishments."

/to be snuck in when nobody's looking
//possibly with a hot poker.
 
2012-08-02 12:10:09 AM  
Oh, holy friggin' crap...

112th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 3806

To end the practice of including more than one subject in a single bill by requiring that each bill enacted by Congress be limited to only one subject, and for other purposes.


"and for other purposes"?

My brain asplode.
 
2012-08-02 12:59:39 AM  
The GOP jihad against abortion trumps all else.
 
2012-08-02 01:35:34 AM  

shotglasss: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

8/10. Best of the day.


Hehe, lockers, you know you should knock it off when shotglasss likes it.
 
2012-08-02 07:32:09 AM  
Both efforts would ban abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy in D.C. except when the mother's life is threatened, and imprison or fine doctors who disobey.

This is part of the problem. Lack of voting representation for DC. You can bet the asshole who filed this amendment would never stand for letting someone from DC try to pass laws affecting his constituents, but he doesn't think twice about screwing with the lives of DC citizens.
 
2012-08-02 08:30:23 AM  
R: democrats are so heck bent on allowing the Internet to remain a cesspool of whores and terror evil doers they Voted against a bill to ensure secure nuclear power plants!

D: we voted against it because you stuck an anti-choice rider in the bill.

American People: rider? Like the rental truck? This doesn't sound right and the libral media didn't say that. Libs are lying again. Vote republican.

Ta-dah!
 
2012-08-02 08:40:32 AM  

Emposter: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

Except that no Congress can bind a future Congress, so it wouldn't actually stop anything.

You know what WOULD stop bullshiat like this? An active, informed, and non-retarded electorate. Not that that will ever happen, of course.


Or an amendmet to the constitution which also won't happen. This is similar to the rules of the filibuster. The party in control can change these rules at the beginning of each session on a straight vote. No one does because they fear what will happen when they're in the minority.
 
2012-08-02 09:31:21 AM  
This may have already been said since I'm a bit late to the party, but I need to go on a bit of a rant.

Why the F*$K do they allow amendments that have absolutely nothing to do with the original bill??? This is why nothing gets done. They could have a perfectly constructed Cyber Security bill that everyone can agree on, and then some idiot adds an anti-abortion amendment or a "repeal Obamacare" amendment, and the whole thing falls apart.

This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Maybe they should work on a law to stop this from happening.

Imagine what could get done if they could just focus on the issue at hand within the bill and not all the BS amendments that people try to sneak in.

It would also probably make the bills/laws much shorter and easier to read and understand.

And I'm done...
 
2012-08-02 09:35:29 AM  
FTFA: Lee's amendment comes as senators wrap up work on a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

You know what? Let him put his abortion amendment in there, and let it be the poison pill that kills the bill. "Cybersecurity" laws are NEVER good for ordinary internet users, and nor is anything that comes from Sen. Lieberman (I-Cigna)
 
2012-08-02 09:42:08 AM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question. Yes, we get it, you want to raise awareness and foster debate of a pet issue. But other than the press corp, the 7 still living people watching CSPAN and Chris Matthews giant forehead, americans don't give a crap about this sort of posturing.

if you want to discuss abortion or gun control submit new bills and discuss them. if you want to try and tank/tie up legislation forever either rally the votes in one of the houses, read the phonebook to congress for a week or become president. enough with this idiocy


Another thing that amendments that have nothing to do with the bill in question does is that a politician will vote against an otherwise great bill because of a lousy amendment and then in the next election, another politician will say "My opponent voted against this great bill" and conveniently leave out the reason why.
 
2012-08-02 09:51:13 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Another thing that amendments that have nothing to do with the bill in question does is that a politician will vote against an otherwise great bill because of a lousy amendment and then in the next election, another politician will say "My opponent voted against this great bill" and conveniently leave out the reason why.


Don't forget if they vote for the bill you can point out their opponent will say "My opponent voted for/signed this terrible bill" and conveniently leave out the reason why. See the NDAA.
 
2012-08-02 09:52:47 AM  

fusillade762: TV's Vinnie: At least it wasn't about giving more tax breaks to the rich this time.

Or trying vainly to repeal ADA for the umpteenth time.


Yeah, about that.....

FTA:

"The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform"

/right next to the advertisement in the middle
//facepalm (not at you, fusillade762)
 
2012-08-02 09:54:34 AM  
I'm curious what the cyber-security bill had in it. Maybe this was a good thing that it died. Look at all our politicians. Would trust a SINGLE one of them to know enough about computer sciences to make a reasonable decision?
 
2012-08-02 10:18:08 AM  

Solid Muldoon: Women avoiding 18 years of slavery by having a medical procedure that removes a little glob of cells? God will destroy America!

Sending a Sky-Net robot to kill a a whole family at a wedding? Babies and all? Awesome!


It's all a matter of spin.

"Women wantonly [wow man] slaughtering infants to gratify their selfish lifestyle? BOO."

"Our doughty [always wanted to use that] military making the world safe from terrorists? YAY.."

/NOT doughy, plz
 
2012-08-02 10:57:39 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I'm curious what the cyber-security bill had in it. Maybe this was a good thing that it died. Look at all our politicians. Would trust a SINGLE one of them to know enough about computer sciences to make a reasonable decision?


The bill may have been crap but no credit goes to this idiot for blocking via unintended consequences of appealing to fundies
 
2012-08-02 11:20:02 AM  

KiltedBastich: lockers: KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.

Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!

You used big words that denote education, you had no direct references to either Jesus or Reagan, your callouts were not blatant dogwhistles. I stand by my score.


Aren't references to arugula, birth certificates, 57 states, and/or teleprompters required as well? Or are they just for extra credit?
 
2012-08-02 11:34:21 AM  

bujin: KiltedBastich: lockers: KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.

Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!

You used big words that denote education, you had no direct references to either Jesus or Reagan, your callouts were not blatant dogwhistles. I stand by my score.

Aren't references to arugula, birth certificates, 57 states, and/or teleprompters required as well? Or are they just for extra credit?


They raise the score, if presented in context in a properly agrammatical way. Misspellings help too.
 
2012-08-02 12:11:01 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Curious: having been introduced in january and we are a day or so away from the august recces, yeah it's dead.

Two can play the political game - somebody needs to reintroduce it (or a similar bill) with a better name.

"Eliminate Antonymous Gainless Legislation Edits."

Nobody would ever vote against the EAGLE Act, no matter how big a corrupt asshole they are.


You know... the Republican party is so concerned about financial responsibility... someone should get a leading Republican to introduce the "Universal Fiscal Integrity Act".
 
2012-08-02 02:10:01 PM  

mainstreet62: "The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform"

/right next to the advertisement in the middle
//facepalm (not at you, fusillade762)


you should EDIT LESS

"The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines. "

time to implement the death penalty for this behavior
 
2012-08-02 03:21:18 PM  

Serious Black: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

That bill has more than one subject. My irony meter exploded.

That said, something similar to that should be added to the farking Constitution.


It WAS added to the constitution.

the confederate constitution
 
2012-08-03 01:28:08 PM  

Mike_LowELL: theorellior: I'll just leave this here...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

So...the Republicans are doing a hell of a job and are deserving of our praise, as they are protecting the homeland from the threats within? The fact you would post that meme in an attempt to insult the Republican Party shows how ass-backwards you stupid libs really are.


I just want to tell you that I am a big fan of your work.
 
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