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(The Hill)   Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah): "This cyber-security bill is good. But, the only way we can really make the Internet safe is through outlawing abortion"   (thehill.com ) divider line
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2012-08-01 02:55:51 PM  
Guess he REALLY doesn't want cyber-security...
 
2012-08-01 02:58:30 PM  
we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question. Yes, we get it, you want to raise awareness and foster debate of a pet issue. But other than the press corp, the 7 still living people watching CSPAN and Chris Matthews giant forehead, americans don't give a crap about this sort of posturing.

if you want to discuss abortion or gun control submit new bills and discuss them. if you want to try and tank/tie up legislation forever either rally the votes in one of the houses, read the phonebook to congress for a week or become president. enough with this idiocy
 
2012-08-01 02:58:53 PM  
Not sure if I should be outraged by this or just accept that that's "how things work" in Washington....
 
2012-08-01 02:59:19 PM  
Reminds me of the other day. Some jerkface cut me off, ran a red light, and then made a left turn through five lanes of busy traffic, nearly causing a pile-up. My first thought was, "if only we could get a law passed defining marriage as one man and one woman, people wouldn't drive like that."

Also, when I finally got to the store, they were all out of 2% milk. Thanks, Obama.
 
2012-08-01 03:04:25 PM  
It's true: the more pirated episodes of Game of Thrones I watch, the more abortions I have.
 
2012-08-01 03:05:15 PM  

GreenAdder: Reminds me of the other day. Some jerkface cut me off, ran a red light, and then made a left turn through five lanes of busy traffic, nearly causing a pile-up. My first thought was, "if only we could get a law passed defining marriage as one man and one woman, people wouldn't drive like that."

Also, when I finally got to the store, they were all out of 2% milk. Thanks, Obama.


You see? Pretty soon we'll all be forced to drink homo milk.
 
2012-08-01 03:08:40 PM  
And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.
 
2012-08-01 03:09:36 PM  

hubiestubert: Guess he REALLY doesn't want cyber-security...


pretty much this. Best way to kill a bill.
 
2012-08-01 03:16:08 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: You see? Pretty soon we'll all be forced to drink homo milk.


It's already happened.

www.yourfunnystuff.com
 
2012-08-01 03:18:03 PM  
If I can beg the indulgence of you for the second I am thinking that perhaps this will be the thread which is from the beginning to the end full of nothing but the rational statements. However I wish to start the conversation of this doing what it is that is done by me which is seeing the issues from two sides. There are two sides of the issue upon which we are speaking. One of these is that the Internet would not be the safer place if the abortion ban was the enacted issue. The other side of this is the opinion of Mister Senatorium Michael E. Lee of the state of Utah which is the statement that there would not be the Internet security without the abortion being the illegal thing.

Okay now the first side of this would probably attempt to make the easier argument of claiming OH MICHAEL E LEE THESE ARE THE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ISSUES. Well this is the route if you have the mental challenging. You see these are the potentially related things. So this side might wish to consider the role of the abortions on the Internet security over the long term rather than to see this for the day or tomorrow day. Imagine if the individual upon who receives the abortion removes the fetus who would grow up to be the hacker who would steal the credit card of you from the computer of you. So perhaps this is why you would wish to NOT ban the abortions and continue to maintain the cyber-security of the country.

For the other side of this which is that abortion must be the banned thing to engage in the cyber security this is what I will state to you. First you probably are thinking OH MEOW YOU WILL CHOOSE THE ISSUE OF THINKING MAYBE THE ABORTED INDIVIDUAL WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MASTER CYBERSECURITY LEADER. Well this is the excellent point but no this was not where I was going. Give the self of you the patting on the back however for this excellent idea. No the issue here is that 99% of all hackers on the planet are doing this in order to cause the disturbance to the pro-abortion lobby. You see all of the chaos upon which they can muster is just to cause the annoyance to the pro-choice individuals and the other individuals are merely the collateral on the loan. So if you were to get rid of the abortion then these individuals would focus on new things that do not involve the issue of abortion but would instead involve things such as the world peace or furry conventions.

So listen maybe you do not agree with the point of Mister Michael E. Lee because you wish to do the rolling of the dice to see if maybe perhaps the hackers will be those who are the aborted. However if you wish to consider the alternative argument of the hacker agenda then perhaps you will see this side and have the agreement. For me I do not think we should do the placating of those who wish to terrorize us. Also if we had the better cyber-security there would not be the HBGary LAUGHTER OLS in the future.

I would like the opinion of you on this issue the Fark.com website.

You are welcome for this.
 
2012-08-01 03:22:30 PM  
a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Well, I don't know anything about it, but I'm against it.
 
2012-08-01 03:22:57 PM  

hubiestubert: Guess he REALLY doesn't want cyber-security...


Chuck the bill. Then loudly point the finger in their faces and say "you helped this happen."
 
2012-08-01 03:25:21 PM  

serial_crusher: Not sure if I should be outraged by this or just accept that that's "how things work" in Washington....


Lieberman's cyber-security bill placed minimum security requirements on essential infrastructure, such as the power grid and the water supply. It might be nice to avoid massive power outages of the scope India has been suffering this week, should a cyber-terrorist decide to target that.

But "how things work in Washington" means that our wonderful senators get to stand on their personal principles instead. I'd like to see legislation that requires they are the last to get the lights turned back on.
 
2012-08-01 03:25:40 PM  

meow said the dog: If I can beg the indulgence of you for the second I am thinking that perhaps this will be the thread which is from the beginning to the end full of nothing but the rational statements....


www.whosawesome.com
 
2012-08-01 03:26:16 PM  

Krieghund: a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Well, I don't know anything about it, but I'm against it.


That was my first thought when I heard about it this morning

/if that asshat is sponsoring it, there's definitely something wrong with it
 
2012-08-01 03:28:46 PM  

meow said the dog: If I can beg the indulgence of you for the second I am thinking that perhaps this will be the thread which is from the beginning to the end full of nothing but the rational statements.


Jesus was an extraterrestrial.
 
2012-08-01 03:37:38 PM  

Krieghund: a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Well, I don't know anything about it, but I'm against it.


THIS
 
2012-08-01 03:49:06 PM  
I have never understood why/how bill riders became legal in the first place.
 
2012-08-01 03:52:43 PM  
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) filed an amendment to pending cybersecurity legislation that would outlaw some abortions in the District of Columbia.

The committee D&C that coming.
 
2012-08-01 03:57:12 PM  
Watch what happens when you delete two instances of "the" and change two others to "a/an":

Meow: No the issue here is that 99% of all hackers on the planet are doing this in order to cause a disturbance to the pro-abortion lobby. You see all of the chaos upon which they can muster is just to cause an annoyance to the pro-choice individuals and the other individuals are merely collateral on the loan. So if you were to get rid of abortion then these individuals would focus on new things that do not involve the issue of abortion but would instead involve things such as world peace or furry conventions.

Oh my, someone can type quite proficiently after all ;)
 
2012-08-01 04:00:02 PM  
It will work. If there are no abortions there will be so many people online in a few years that downloading even the grainiest shaved midget porn will take HOURS. Soon, we'll all be back outside playing stickball and dancing 'round the maypole.

Not only is this not germane to the original language, it's not even Tito or Marlon.
 
2012-08-01 04:05:41 PM  

Livingroom: And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.


Also this. I guess that one's at least tangentially related though. Physical security is a crucial part of information security, but you're probably not going to see a group of terrorists abort their way into the control room of a nuclear power plant.
 
2012-08-01 04:14:12 PM  

serial_crusher: Livingroom: And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.

Also this. I guess that one's at least tangentially related though. Physical security is a crucial part of information security, but you're probably not going to see a group of terrorists abort their way into the control room of a nuclear power plant.


You may have forgotten, but I remember where I was when the first radioactive fetus slammed into the towers.
 
2012-08-01 04:22:24 PM  

vernonFL: Krieghund: a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Well, I don't know anything about it, but I'm against it.

THIS


Reactionary willful ignorance: It's not just for teabaggers!
 
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2012-08-01 04:25:45 PM  

Livingroom: And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.


Yea, good luck with that.
 
2012-08-01 04:35:45 PM  
Like military personnel and federal civilian employees, DC residents have to deal with hick politicians in Congress holding them hostage to whatever goes in one ear and out the other.
 
2012-08-01 04:38:01 PM  

Livingroom: And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.


img263.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-01 04:39:32 PM  

Aarontology: vernonFL: Krieghund: a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).
Well, I don't know anything about it, but I'm against it.
THIS

Reactionary willful ignorance: It's not just for teabaggers!


You're the guy that smells your buddy's finger every single time he comes back from the can, aren't you?

/it might not smell like shiat THIS time!
 
2012-08-01 04:43:58 PM  

Krieghund: You're the guy that smells your buddy's finger every single time he comes back from the can, aren't you?

/it might not smell like shiat THIS time!


I can't hear you over the sound of Lieberman writing the legislation that repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell.
 
2012-08-01 05:30:04 PM  

Aarontology: I can't hear you over the sound of Lieberman writing the legislation that repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell.


I have no idea what DADT has to do with cyber-security.
 
2012-08-01 05:32:14 PM  
Assholes named Mike trifecta in play?
 
2012-08-01 05:36:33 PM  

meow said the dog: Fine, vintage, derp


That melted my brain. Thou art Favorited.
 
2012-08-01 05:37:10 PM  

Aarontology: Krieghund: You're the guy that smells your buddy's finger every single time he comes back from the can, aren't you?

/it might not smell like shiat THIS time!

I can't hear you over the sound of Lieberman writing the legislation that repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell.


How many bad bills does that give him cover for?
 
2012-08-01 05:37:41 PM  
I should attach an amendment to the cybersecurity bill that mandates I get blowjobs from any (wo)man I find to be really freaking hot.

You know, to protect America from those godless commienazis.
 
2012-08-01 05:38:21 PM  
If only we could abort him through the internet.
 
2012-08-01 05:39:24 PM  

ThreadSinger: meow said the dog: Fine, vintage, derp

That melted my brain. Thou art Favorited.


Oh hello!
 
2012-08-01 05:44:30 PM  
Wow, farking 21st century and we're still "debating" abortion.

Amazing.
 
2012-08-01 05:48:36 PM  
You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)
 
2012-08-01 05:49:23 PM  
The original bill made a lot of sense, as it would have required power plants and the like to have standards on their cyber security and require them to be operated offline. The utility industries that it effected decided they hated it since it would be regulation and publicly said that they were against it. Then through sheer coincidence I'm sure, all sorts of shady riders start getting attached to it, all but killing the bill. I'm just piecing that together from Googling about it for a minute, but it seems pretty likely that is what is happening.
 
2012-08-01 05:49:57 PM  
The more Republicans talk, the more convinced I become that some people SHOULD be pulled from the safety and warmth of the womb with a pair of tongs and chucked in a dumpster before they ever get a chance to get started.
 
2012-08-01 05:51:59 PM  

SnakeLee: The original bill made a lot of sense, as it would have required power plants and the like to have standards on their cyber security and require them to be operated offline. The utility industries that it effected decided they hated it since it would be regulation and publicly said that they were against it. Then through sheer coincidence I'm sure, all sorts of shady riders start getting attached to it, all but killing the bill. I'm just piecing that together from Googling about it for a minute, but it seems pretty likely that is what is happening.


Lightning rod social issues being used as a smokescreen to distract from corporate plundering and irresponsibility? Not in America sir, not in America.
 
2012-08-01 05:52:11 PM  

GreenAdder: Reminds me of the other day. Some jerkface cut me off, ran a red light, and then made a left turn through five lanes of busy traffic, nearly causing a pile-up. My first thought was, "if only we could get a law passed defining marriage as one man and one woman, people wouldn't drive like that."

Also, when I finally got to the store, they were all out of 2% milk. Thanks, Obama.


This should really be a new Bel-Air-esque meme.

"At work today I was in a meeting where we were discussing the implementation of a new remote support system. My boss asked me to comment on it, seeing as he knows I am critical of the ticketing feature being counted as a work metric, so I quickly responded with "Well, what does it matter? I don't have a farking ticket to prove I'm actually saying this right now, so fark it, horseface!" I was fired on the spot.

On the way home I stopped to get a donut to try and take my mind off of the situation. It was stale. Thanks a lot, Obama."
 
2012-08-01 05:52:58 PM  

jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)


Hmmmmmmmm. I think I like this.
 
2012-08-01 05:56:41 PM  

Livingroom: And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.


Mr. Romney's presidency is assured only if Senator Lautenberg's entirely unreasonable amendment survives and is ultimately incorporated into federal law.
 
2012-08-01 05:59:44 PM  

jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)


Sent to committee

/where I assume it was quietly suffocated
 
2012-08-01 06:03:23 PM  
Republicans are congenital farktards. I am now convinced of it.

There can be no more doubt or debate. It's just true.
 
2012-08-01 06:04:07 PM  
Man, those Republicans really are laser-focused on the economy, huh?
 
2012-08-01 06:04:45 PM  

Dimensio: Livingroom: And a ban on hicap mags, that's essential to Internet security, democrats.

I'd like to thank democrats for electing Romney president. S.a.2575 practically guarantees it.

Mr. Romney's presidency is assured only if Senator Lautenberg's entirely unreasonable amendment survives and is ultimately incorporated into federal law.


LOL
 
2012-08-01 06:05:00 PM  

jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)


That is a great idea. I would just add an amendment mandating abortions and gay marriage.
 
2012-08-01 06:05:17 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

Sent to committee

/where I assume it was quietly suffocated


In fact, it may receive a vote, once a number of unrelated amendments are attached.
 
2012-08-01 06:06:07 PM  

jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)


That bill has more than one subject. My irony meter exploded.

That said, something similar to that should be added to the farking Constitution.
 
2012-08-01 06:06:52 PM  
At this point the GOP idiotology requires that they confirm the Reagan Axiom which states that government isn't the solution its the problem. So when a peeping tome techie with x-rated eyes sees that Government might solve something they refer to the Reagan Axiom and contrive a means to derail an competent intiative. Fortunately for them them the have an issue that wont die unless it is outlawed -Abortion. Granted it resembles a sharia law initiative but they have mental paradox crumple zones like evil Santa Claus who judges us all to be to naughty for presents. https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxChEoDESBEOVmT8v IGx5GBHKqB9nI33yk7Peedlc31iROobC8uA
 
2012-08-01 06:07:04 PM  
You know what these idiots remind me of? People like Chris-Chan, the internet moron. He insists on putting his shiatty cartoon everywhere. On everything. And yet he wonders why people troll him.

This is what I am reminded of with idiots like this.
 
2012-08-01 06:07:40 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

Sent to committee

/where I assume it was quietly suffocated


having been introduced in january and we are a day or so away from the august recces, yeah it's dead.
 
2012-08-01 06:08:08 PM  
What's that, Leiberman? People are attaching shiat to one of your bills to sink it?

I can hardly locate my sympathy.
 
2012-08-01 06:13:04 PM  
theosophical.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-01 06:13:19 PM  

jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)


Sounds good. Attach it to the highway bill and we'll be all set.
 
2012-08-01 06:13:41 PM  
I propose an amendment to the bill which requires all amendments considered unrelated to the bill be printed with a 48 font size on 100lbs card stock, rolled up, and inserted in its entirety into the anus of the politician who proposed the amendment.
 
2012-08-01 06:14:37 PM  
Lee's amendment comes as senators wrap up work on a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Lieberman asked his colleagues Tuesday afternoon not to file any more non-germane amendment to his bill.


THIS shiat needs to happen more, this amending non-related shiat to things like defense spending andf 'give the poor children blankets' bills is bullshiat, and it's the source of 99% of our bullshiat leegislation. There is absolutely NO reason to allow it.
 
2012-08-01 06:21:26 PM  
I liked him better when he was directing depressing British character pieces.
 
2012-08-01 06:22:00 PM  
Sen. Mike Lee deserves a swift cockpunch.
 
2012-08-01 06:24:14 PM  
JOBS

lol
 
2012-08-01 06:25:38 PM  
Roe Vs McAfee?
 
2012-08-01 06:27:28 PM  

Mikey1969: Lee's amendment comes as senators wrap up work on a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Lieberman asked his colleagues Tuesday afternoon not to file any more non-germane amendment to his bill.

THIS shiat needs to happen more, this amending non-related shiat to things like defense spending andf 'give the poor children blankets' bills is bullshiat, and it's the source of 99% of our bullshiat leegislation. There is absolutely NO reason to allow it.


How much pork do you suppose has gotten through over the years because of this practice? Outside of maybe eliminating lobbying or real, meaningful limits on campaign donations, I'm hard pressed to think of a single reform that would do more to clean up Washington.
 
2012-08-01 06:27:55 PM  
Enough with these bullshiat rider bills. They should either be outlawed entirely, or required to be somehow related to the primary bill.
 
2012-08-01 06:30:17 PM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.


Someone should attach a rider on their pay-raise vote that disallows non-pertinent riders.
 
2012-08-01 06:32:04 PM  
derper.com

/hot like a hot bowl of derple stew
 
2012-08-01 06:32:55 PM  
Damnit, these clowns (in both parties) managed to make Joe Farking Lieberman seem like the same one.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) filed an amendment to pending cybersecurity legislation that would outlaw some abortions in the District of Columbia.

The measure matched a bill from Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) that the House considered Tuesday. Both efforts would ban abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy in D.C. except when the mother's life is threatened, and imprison or fine doctors who disobey.

Lee's amendment comes as senators wrap up work on a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

Lieberman asked his colleagues Tuesday afternoon not to file any more non-germane amendment to his bill.

The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines.

"We can get this bill done and protect our security," Lieberman said Tuesday. "Nobody believes we're going to repeal ObamaCare this week or we're going to adopt gun control legislation."
 
2012-08-01 06:33:28 PM  

sendtodave: tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.

Someone should attach a rider on their pay-raise vote that disallows non-pertinent riders.


Just make a rule that only the sponsor(s) of the bill can offer amendments to it. Then you don't have to worry about whether it's pertinent.
 
2012-08-01 06:33:30 PM  
"Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) filed an amendment to pending cybersecurity legislation that would outlaw some abortions in the District of Columbia. [...] The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines."

All of you, stop trying to put stuff in Bills that doesn't have anything to do with those Bills, assholes.
 
2012-08-01 06:33:59 PM  
Too bad "good governance" isn't a part of the Republican platform.
 
2012-08-01 06:35:22 PM  
I'm so tired of these farking farks.
 
2012-08-01 06:35:33 PM  
Is there any other country on Earth that allows these ridiculous riders? Even a third-world one?
 
2012-08-01 06:37:23 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: sendtodave: tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.

Someone should attach a rider on their pay-raise vote that disallows non-pertinent riders.

Just make a rule that only the sponsor(s) of the bill can offer amendments to it. Then you don't have to worry about whether it's pertinent.


you just made the sponsor the paymaster, everyone will be rushing to introduce the important bills so that they can add your amendment for a small favor.
 
2012-08-01 06:47:14 PM  

The Jami Turman Fan Club: Just make a rule that only the sponsor(s) of the bill can offer amendments to it. Then you don't have to worry about whether it's pertinent.


Bingo. That's better than One Subject at a Time Act.
 
2012-08-01 06:47:29 PM  

heinekenftw: Enough with these bullshiat rider bills. They should either be outlawed entirely, or required to be somehow related to the primary bill.


That is a big problem. It feeds the political animal and thus much back room back slapping ensues. In the end the people get screwed with watered down bs and all this other gimme rider crap like bridges to nowhere.
 
2012-08-01 06:50:10 PM  
What Publicans actually believe:

1) Gosh darn them gosh darn ni*BONG*s welfare queens, always popping out babies that they can't support.

2) Defund Planned Parenthood.
 
2012-08-01 06:52:44 PM  

whidbey: Wow, farking 21st century and we're still "debating" abortion.


Not really... the debate has long been over. It's just the losing side of the debate has yet to figure out that they lost already.
 
2012-08-01 07:00:45 PM  
SPEAKER
Then it is unanimous, we are going to approve the bill to evacuate the town of Springfield in the great state of--

CONGRESSMAN
Wait a second, I want to tack on a rider to that bill - $30 million of taxpayer money to support the perverted arts.

SPEAKER
All in favor of the amended Springfield-slash-pervert bill?

FLOOR
Boo!

SPEAKER
Bill defeated.

KENT BROCKMAN
I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply doesn't work.
 
2012-08-01 07:03:14 PM  

Curious: having been introduced in january and we are a day or so away from the august recces, yeah it's dead.


Two can play the political game - somebody needs to reintroduce it (or a similar bill) with a better name.

"Eliminate Antonymous Gainless Legislation Edits."

Nobody would ever vote against the EAGLE Act, no matter how big a corrupt asshole they are.
 
2012-08-01 07:06:45 PM  

serial_crusher: Not sure if I should be outraged by this or just accept that that's "how things work" in Washington....


Outraged, why can't they make a law where you can't attach unrelated junk to bills? Oh yeah, they would attach something unrelated and it would fail to pass, dumb question.
 
2012-08-01 07:07:22 PM  
So let me see if I have this straight: a Senator from UTAH wants to limit abortions in WASHINGTON DC in a bill about CYBER-SECURITY?

My brain asplode.
 
2012-08-01 07:11:19 PM  
The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines.

These people are farking pathetic...
 
2012-08-01 07:12:05 PM  

fusillade762: So let me see if I have this straight: a Senator from UTAH wants to limit abortions in WASHINGTON DC in a bill about CYBER-SECURITY?


Well, it was Utahns that got gay marriage banned in California.
 
2012-08-01 07:15:56 PM  

keylock71: The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines.

These people are farking pathetic...


It's almost like both sides are bad...
 
2012-08-01 07:16:47 PM  
I'll just leave this here...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-08-01 07:23:06 PM  
They should add Gluten Free Internet and Cowbell amendments to the bill.
 
2012-08-01 07:26:18 PM  

theorellior: I'll just leave this here...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net


So...the Republicans are doing a hell of a job and are deserving of our praise, as they are protecting the homeland from the threats within? The fact you would post that meme in an attempt to insult the Republican Party shows how ass-backwards you stupid libs really are.
 
2012-08-01 07:36:57 PM  

Mike_LowELL: theorellior: I'll just leave this here...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

So...the Republicans are doing a hell of a job and are deserving of our praise, as they are protecting the homeland from the threats within? The fact you would post that meme in an attempt to insult the Republican Party shows how ass-backwards you stupid libs really are.


Those that don't agree with your views on marriage, abortion, gun control, and taxation should be considered threats. Gotcha.

Threats to what?
 
2012-08-01 07:38:00 PM  

Mike_LowELL: theorellior: I'll just leave this here...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

So...the Republicans are doing a hell of a job and are deserving of our praise, as they are protecting the homeland from the threats within? The fact you would post that meme in an attempt to insult the Republican Party shows how ass-backwards you stupid libs really are.



Funny how both of you see all those things as all-good or all-bad without even knowing what they're referring to.

/a bill about marriage. Democrats would nevah!
 
2012-08-01 07:40:35 PM  
Is this not the same legislation that some pandering shiathead was trying to amend to include online ammo purchases? I guess its ok when they are protecting us from stuff that scares *you* right?
 
2012-08-01 07:40:51 PM  

fusillade762: So let me see if I have this straight: a Senator from UTAH wants to limit abortions in WASHINGTON DC in a bill about CYBER-SECURITY?

My brain asplode.


Unprotected sex on the Internets is a daily growing phenomenon.
 
2012-08-01 07:42:01 PM  

theorellior: I'll just leave this here...

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 403x403]


B-but ROMNEY. Business acumen. CEO. Sole Shareholder. King. God.
 
2012-08-01 07:43:43 PM  

whidbey: fusillade762: So let me see if I have this straight: a Senator from UTAH wants to limit abortions in WASHINGTON DC in a bill about CYBER-SECURITY?

My brain asplode.

Unprotected sex on the Internets is a daily growing phenomenon.


ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2012-08-01 08:00:26 PM  
He's doing us a favor. Odds are, the bill is yet another "let's fark over peoples rights in the name of national security" piece of crap. By adding an anti-abortion rider to it, he guarantees the bill will fail. We win.

/I have not read the bill
//just basing my assumption on the recent history of Congress
 
2012-08-01 08:01:22 PM  
At least it wasn't about giving more tax breaks to the rich this time.
 
2012-08-01 08:03:28 PM  
To be fair, intentionally killing the cybersecurity bill might not be an entirely bad thing in the long run.
 
2012-08-01 08:05:53 PM  
www.classwarfareexists.com

We'll all have to have one of these at home to insure our Internet connections are secure for birth.
 
2012-08-01 08:07:48 PM  

OgreMagi: He's doing us a favor.


You don't hijack the Congressional process to stop a bill from becoming law.

Odds are, the bill is yet another "let's fark over peoples rights in the name of national security" piece of crap. By adding an anti-abortion rider to it, he guarantees the bill will fail. We win.

/I have not read the bill
//just basing my assumption on the recent history of Congress

Cybersecurity Act Of 2012 Might Actually End Up Being Pro-Privacy
 
2012-08-01 08:10:43 PM  

Wyalt Derp: "Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) filed an amendment to pending cybersecurity legislation that would outlaw some abortions in the District of Columbia. [...] The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines."

All of you, stop trying to put stuff in Bills that doesn't have anything to do with those Bills, assholes.


Lautenberg's excuse is that it's a "security" question, which is img.fark.neting stupid. He might have a better chance if he made it narrower; it's a cybersecurity bill, so limit it to banning the on-line purchase.

In contrast, Lee doesn't even have a tenuous connection to give a fig-leaf excuse.
 
2012-08-01 08:12:11 PM  
i'm not usually one for outlawing things, but internet videos of abortions is kinda extreme... especially the late-term videos with the endoscopic cameras. i don't think they should be outlawed, but if you're gonna be outlawing anything, i wouldn't complain much about that.
 
2012-08-01 08:16:10 PM  

sinschild: Is this not the same legislation that some pandering shiathead was trying to amend to include online ammo purchases? I guess its ok when they are protecting us from stuff that scares *you* right?


1. Everybody in this thread is just as against Lautenberg's amendment as we are Lee's amendment.

2. Did you just say that you're scared of abortion?
 
2012-08-01 08:17:45 PM  

whidbey: Cybersecurity Act Of 2012 Might Actually End Up Being Pro-Privacy


Well I'll be damned.

/thanks for the link
 
2012-08-01 08:20:37 PM  

propasaurus: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

That is a great idea. I would just add an amendment mandating abortions and gay marriage.


I love you guys.
 
2012-08-01 08:22:46 PM  

TV's Vinnie: At least it wasn't about giving more tax breaks to the rich this time.


Or trying vainly to repeal ADA for the umpteenth time.
 
2012-08-01 08:24:24 PM  
Where are all the "run government like a business" folks at a time like this? If any private corporation I've ever worked with was as endemic with scope creep as Congress seems to be, nothing would ever get accomplished. I realize that riders and amendments are blunt political instruments and the first recourse for private dealing, but this is getting way out of hand.


/and won't ever change
//until someone comes up with a way to make it hurt more
 
2012-08-01 08:24:56 PM  

whidbey: Wow, farking 21st century and we're still "debating" abortion.

Amazing.


Hell, we're still "debating" birth control and health care access for everyone. These people are an embarrassment to the entire human race.
 
2012-08-01 08:26:13 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: GreenAdder: Reminds me of the other day. Some jerkface cut me off, ran a red light, and then made a left turn through five lanes of busy traffic, nearly causing a pile-up. My first thought was, "if only we could get a law passed defining marriage as one man and one woman, people wouldn't drive like that."

Also, when I finally got to the store, they were all out of 2% milk. Thanks, Obama.

You see? Pretty soon we'll all be forced to drink homo milk.


Technically it is lesbo milk.
 
2012-08-01 08:26:44 PM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question. Yes, we get it, you want to raise awareness and foster debate of a pet issue. But other than the press corp, the 7 still living people watching CSPAN and Chris Matthews giant forehead, americans don't give a crap about this sort of posturing.

if you want to discuss abortion or gun control submit new bills and discuss them. if you want to try and tank/tie up legislation forever either rally the votes in one of the houses, read the phonebook to congress for a week or become president. enough with this idiocy


The problem of course being the entire US political system is based on bribery/graft being inserted into unrelated bills to get support to get them past. Without this corruption being allowed the entire US political system would break down and need to be reinvented - how would bills get implemented without being able to bribe all the other politicians?
 
2012-08-01 08:28:09 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: Hell, we're still "debating" birth control and health care access for everyone. These people are an embarrassment to the entire human race.


Your right it is atrocious that we have so many people who think babby murder should be legal. And these same people think doctors should work for free and that we should just ignore morality. Awful.
 
2012-08-01 08:29:57 PM  

Shaggy_C: babby murder


[OHYOU.jpg]
 
2012-08-01 08:35:35 PM  

Shaggy_C: Your right it is atrocious that we have so many people who think babby murder should be legal. And these same people think doctors should work for free and that we should just ignore morality. Awful.


Look, I know you're a troll and probably don't actually believe the stuff you post, and I'll posit you have the intelligence to understand what a strawman fallacy is, but I will bite on one bit of that past-pull-date troll bait. Physicians can follow any moral compass they need that helps them sleep at night. I do expect them to have good ethics, which most folks mistakenly tend to conflate with one another. An ethical physician would support the greatest good for the greatest number, which is what providing accessible healthcare is all about.
 
2012-08-01 08:39:24 PM  

Shaggy_C: trivial use of my dark powers: Hell, we're still "debating" birth control and health care access for everyone. These people are an embarrassment to the entire human race.

Your right it is atrocious that we have so many people who think babby murder should be legal. And these same people think doctors should work for free and that we should just ignore morality. Awful.


5/10. The misspelling of "you're" was a tasty touch. Babby was a bit over the top.
 
2012-08-01 08:42:29 PM  

meow said the dog: So if you were to get rid of the abortion then these individuals would focus on new things that do not involve the issue of abortion but would instead involve things such as the world peace or furry conventions.



Interestingly, I find that the more meow I read, the easier it is to understand.
 
2012-08-01 08:42:50 PM  

GreenAdder: Reminds me of the other day. Some jerkface cut me off, ran a red light, and then made a left turn through five lanes of busy traffic, nearly causing a pile-up. My first thought was, "if only we could get a law passed defining marriage as one man and one woman, people wouldn't drive like that."

Also, when I finally got to the store, they were all out of 2% milk. Thanks, Obama.


you sound fat

gave yourself away with the 2% milk.
 
2012-08-01 08:44:03 PM  
Alongside Steve King's pro-animal-cruelty stance, his comments about Obama's birth cert and that guy who thinks free birth control is just like murdering thousands by crashing an airplane into a busy commerce building, this actually seems rather normal....
 
2012-08-01 08:44:23 PM  
This sort of thing is why many in the past wanted the President to be granted the Line-Item Veto that many State Governors enjoy. But I've long stated that I prefer banning such unrelated riders in the first place. OSTA looks like a good method.

If the Constitutional system of Checks and Balances is out-of-balance because one Branch of the Government has too much power, then the proper solution is not to give more power to another Branch, but rather to remove the excess power of the too strong Branch!

Both the Line-Item Veto and something like OSTA would mitigate the problem, but OSTA would do it properly, without giving the Executive Branch a power that may subsequently be abused even worse.

Remember NDAA? Righties all over the Internet blame Obama for signing that and authorizing spying on U.S. citizens due to one rider amendment, but his only choice was to either sign the whole bill, veto the whole bill, or hold onto it. He couldn't pick-and-choose. And without an NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) being passed every year, once the previous one expires, we have no authorization to even have a National Defense, to spend even 1¢ on it!

That was, of course, the intent of that spying-on-citizens NDAA amendment: to make Obama out to be a villain whether he signed or vetoed it. It was like one of those Catch-22 "gotcha" questions the scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees loved to ask Jesus, until He smacked them down, but unlike Jesus, President of the USA is Constitutionally bound to pick one or the other choice.
 
2012-08-01 08:47:58 PM  

praxcelis: Physicians can follow any moral compass they need that helps them sleep at night. I do expect them to have good ethics, which most folks mistakenly tend to conflate with one another. An ethical physician would support the greatest good for the greatest number, which is what providing accessible healthcare is all about.


You sidestepped the issue - you don't want an ethical person to be a doctor, you want completely selfless people to be doctors. Good luck getting people to go to school for over a decade when you drive down their wages to a point where they can't survive. The best and brightest will either study something else or, if they do become doctors, will take their skills to a country that properly compensates them for the abilities. The net result is that America will become like the Britain/Socialist NHS where medical professionals are all terrible at their jobs (just look at Brit teeth) and make you wait 6 months for appointment. And as far as your comment about morals, you have essentially said that belief in Christ and a strong understanding of right and wrong are not important to you when selecting a professional who holds your life in their hands. That's your perogative but I would rather have a moral doctor than a Joseph Mangela.
 
2012-08-01 08:50:39 PM  
img849.imageshack.us

"Please don't attach any non-germane amendments to my bill."
 
2012-08-01 08:55:45 PM  

Shaggy_C: You sidestepped the issue - you don't want an ethical person to be a doctor, you want completely selfless people to be doctors.


Actually, I want to be able to get my abortion at McDonald's. In the Drive-thru.

Top that.
 
2012-08-01 08:58:47 PM  
Fetuses aren't people until they're born. Get over it anti-choicers. You may biatch and complain about 'where life begins' bullshiat but unfortunately for you, this country uses a legal definition that will never change and for good reason.
 
2012-08-01 09:00:18 PM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question. Yes, we get it, you want to raise awareness and foster debate of a pet issue. But other than the press corp, the 7 still living people watching CSPAN and Chris Matthews giant forehead, americans don't give a crap about this sort of posturing.

if you want to discuss abortion or gun control submit new bills and discuss them. if you want to try and tank/tie up legislation forever either rally the votes in one of the houses, read the phonebook to congress for a week or become president. enough with this idiocy


So much THIS.

Can't we push for an amendment to stop billjacking?
 
2012-08-01 09:00:53 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Fetuses aren't people until they're born. Get over it anti-choicers. You may biatch and complain about 'where life begins' bullshiat but unfortunately for you, this country uses a legal definition that will never change and for good reason.


Kevin Nealon said it's all a question of when life begins... some believe life begins at 40.
 
2012-08-01 09:19:36 PM  
How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.
 
2012-08-01 09:20:05 PM  

jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)


Except that no Congress can bind a future Congress, so it wouldn't actually stop anything.

You know what WOULD stop bullshiat like this? An active, informed, and non-retarded electorate. Not that that will ever happen, of course.
 
2012-08-01 09:22:39 PM  

Emposter: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

Except that no Congress can bind a future Congress, so it wouldn't actually stop anything.

You know what WOULD stop bullshiat like this? An active, informed, and non-retarded electorate. Not that that will ever happen, of course.


Romney. He's going to win, you know. All that business acumen...and no sitting President has ever recovered from a limp-wristed economy...
 
2012-08-01 09:24:01 PM  

lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.


weknowmemes.com
 
2012-08-01 09:24:06 PM  

lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.


You are being sarcastic, right? With so many blithering morons around it's hard to tell.
 
2012-08-01 09:25:12 PM  

COMALite J: If the Constitutional system of Checks and Balances is out-of-balance because one Branch of the Government has too much power, then the proper solution is not to give more power to another Branch, but rather to remove the excess power of the too strong Branch!


This.
The parliamentarians are gaming the system and adding another tier to that will only mean its abused in ever more creative ways.
There needs to be some truth in advertising with these bills. No sneaking in riders or poison pills on entirely unrelated legislation. No hidnig crap we don't want in tons of legalese. Break up the omnibus crap into clearly directed spending so each politician can be held more accountable.
They need to get back to doing their jobs rather than trying to cheat everyone.

/In my ideal world: Anything that isn't under the direct topic of the law in question should either be tossed out or sunset at the end of that session.
/Every passage should be written and read by the author, in full, on the sponsors time.
/Not the politician who sponsored it. The actual clerk, lawyer, or lobbyist that wrote it.
/Make them hand write the damn thing if you need accountability. It was good enough for pre-typewriter politicians.
 
2012-08-01 09:34:05 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

You are being sarcastic, right? With so many blithering morons around it's hard to tell.


That wasn't over the top enough? Geez, the politics tab really makes you farkers dead inside.
 
2012-08-01 09:34:17 PM  

lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.


2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.
 
2012-08-01 09:37:47 PM  
It's sad when a political party that has created their own base to be reactionary, violent, and stupid ideologues has to keep pandering to these assholes to keep them going to the polls. Seriously, isn't that NOT the way it was supposed to work?
 
2012-08-01 09:37:59 PM  

lockers: That wasn't over the top enough? Geez, the politics tab really makes you farkers dead inside.


Poe's Law, dude. I've seen a good dozen people say that sort of thing earnestly just this morning. :P
 
2012-08-01 09:40:03 PM  

lockers: Fluorescent Testicle: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

You are being sarcastic, right? With so many blithering morons around it's hard to tell.

That wasn't over the top enough? Geez, the politics tab really makes you farkers dead inside.


I like to think that we come here because we're dead inside :P
 
2012-08-01 09:41:36 PM  

MurphyMurphy: lockers: Fluorescent Testicle: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

You are being sarcastic, right? With so many blithering morons around it's hard to tell.

That wasn't over the top enough? Geez, the politics tab really makes you farkers dead inside.

I like to think that we come here because we're dead inside :P


It is a vicious cycle.
 
2012-08-01 09:46:47 PM  

KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.


Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!
 
2012-08-01 09:47:31 PM  
F*ck you, Rand Paul.
 
2012-08-01 09:48:10 PM  

lockers: KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.

Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!


You RINO.
 
2012-08-01 09:51:29 PM  

lockers: Fluorescent Testicle: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

You are being sarcastic, right? With so many blithering morons around it's hard to tell.

That wasn't over the top enough? Geez, the politics tab really makes you farkers dead inside.


I'm still not so sure it was satire. Does that go for all your posts, too?
 
2012-08-01 09:54:36 PM  
But how is babby formed?
 
2012-08-01 09:55:38 PM  

Shaggy_C: trivial use of my dark powers: Hell, we're still "debating" birth control and health care access for everyone. These people are an embarrassment to the entire human race.

Your right it is atrocious that we have so many people who think babby murder should be legal. And these same people think doctors should work for free and that we should just ignore morality. Awful.


Trolling: http://www.trollquotes.org

Being a dumbass: Saying things you know are retarded, but that other people believe, and that yet other people will correct you on when they could be spelling it out to people who actually do need it spelled out. Invoking Poe's law isn't trolling and it isn't clever. It's just knowingly being part of the problem for kicks.

So when it comes to posts like this, I don't care if you're 'trolling' or really believe it. You're an idiot either way, and you deserve to be called out on it. Don't pat yourself on the back for it, you didn't 'win' anything for getting a 'bite'

/tired of so called trolling
//yes, yes, "welcome to fark"
 
2012-08-01 09:58:04 PM  
I got an abortion over the internet. I had to click the button that asked if I was male or female. I lied, like I do on all the lesbian sites.
 
2012-08-01 09:58:24 PM  

whidbey: lockers: Fluorescent Testicle: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

You are being sarcastic, right? With so many blithering morons around it's hard to tell.

That wasn't over the top enough? Geez, the politics tab really makes you farkers dead inside.

I'm still not so sure it was satire. Does that go for all your posts, too?


I'm not Pocket Ninja, sorry. Is there a rule in the FAQ that says your either always serious, always sarcastic or a lame troll?
 
2012-08-01 10:01:03 PM  

lockers: Is there a rule in the FAQ that says your either always serious, always sarcastic or a lame troll?


I sure hope not. I'd be screwed.
 
2012-08-01 10:05:19 PM  

lockers: KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.

Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!


You used big words that denote education, you had no direct references to either Jesus or Reagan, your callouts were not blatant dogwhistles. I stand by my score.
 
2012-08-01 10:05:20 PM  
Women avoiding 18 years of slavery by having a medical procedure that removes a little glob of cells? God will destroy America!

Sending a Sky-Net robot to kill a a whole family at a wedding? Babies and all? Awesome!
 
2012-08-01 10:27:28 PM  
Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.
 
2012-08-01 10:29:11 PM  

lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.


8/10. Best of the day.
 
2012-08-01 10:35:14 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: It's sad when a political party that has created their own base to be reactionary, violent, and stupid ideologues has to keep pandering to these assholes to keep them going to the polls. Seriously, isn't that NOT the way it was supposed to work?


Correct, however billion dollar propaganda is a powerful tool.

Case in point. Below is the main headline listed. Keep in mind they neglect to say that the House is controlled entirely by Republicans. They pose it as though it's a bipartisan measure when it's not.

House Backs GOP Plan on Tax Rates

It's not news in the least considering the volume of bills the House has passed knowing full well they are unrealistic, extreme and will not become law. It's an extension of propaganda so they can make claims and lay blame, nothing more. It's not realistic in any sense yet they continue their repetitive cycle. This is the same group that wants to eliminate Medicare, Social Security and Food Stamps at a cost of $52 billion yet turns a blind eye to $90 + billion in Corporate welfare each year. Politics is politics but Republicans are the worst of the worst of the worst.

Factual information shows American citizens are worse off under Republican rule and it only gets worse each time. They project their lies, fraud and schemes on anyone who dares confront and or oppose them and viciously attack the messenger to no end. Their play book hasn't changed over the years in the least it's only adapted to "current" technology. I'm not saying Democrats haven't done this, because they can both kma, but it's like comparing a teenager robbing a store of a Soda and chips to Whitey Bulger. Of course they don't like it and get extremely defensive, they are on the defense 24/7 to protect and hide their extreme wrong doings live Voter Fraud (take a look and see who has actually committed extensive voter fraud over history and recent history. Hint: "Republicans"). These people are not even Republicans by definition, they are Extreme Right Wing Neocons with a wild agenda not in line with American interests, values, morals or ethics.

How many Executive Cabinet members from the Republican party work/worked for and/or endorsed Fox "News"? A LOT. A real lot. Cheney, Palin, Rove, Rice, Snow, Rumsfeld awee fark, I'm not naming them all.. Way to many to call yourself "fair" or "balanced" and total bullshiat from the perspective of anyone with a some what normal IQ. Won't make a difference to their fans though, they are Hook, Line, Sinker, Rod, Reel, Handle and half the left arm. IE; phreezen, mfl, bfb, tpos and many more.

Right-wing authoritarianism (RWA) is a personality and ideological variable studied in political, social, and personality psychology. Right-wing authoritarians are people who have a high degree of willingness to submit to authorities they perceive as established and legitimate, who adhere to societal conventions and norms, and who are hostile and punitive in their attitudes towards people who don't adhere to them. They value uniformity and are in favor of using group authority, including coercion, to achieve it.
 
2012-08-01 10:35:32 PM  
@shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!
 
2012-08-01 10:36:50 PM  

shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.


OMG! Bob committed a terrible crime!

Yeah, well somebody else did it first.

Well, I guess it's fine then. Move along. Nothing to see here.
 
2012-08-01 10:42:27 PM  

Solid Muldoon: shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.

OMG! Bob committed a terrible crime!

Yeah, well somebody else did it first.

Well, I guess it's fine then. Move along. Nothing to see here.


Plenty to see here. It's just that we've seen it a billion times already.
 
2012-08-01 10:46:50 PM  

shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.


I recall many times that BOTH sides have been groused at for doing this shiat. But you continue on with your "US VS THEM ARGH RAAAR" idiocy.
 
2012-08-01 10:52:37 PM  
Oh the headline led me to believe that this would be a good place to find a nice chili recipe.
So. maybe I should read the article

having just read the article... meh ...anyone know a good chili recipe with habanero not too hot.
 
2012-08-01 10:53:38 PM  
It is one of the Repugnicans favorite things:

We did something horrible? Well, the Democrats did it first! Remember how we condemned them for doing it? Now that we are doing it, it's not so bad.

It's like how when they do something that people criticize, and their first resort is to say, "Clinton did it first!"

It like the Repugnicans are always saying that Clinton was the best President.
 
2012-08-01 10:53:46 PM  
So, I'm convinced. Do not google anything with the words "anal" plus "Republican" in the search.
 
2012-08-01 10:59:42 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.

I recall many times that BOTH sides have been groused at for doing this shiat. But you continue on with your "US VS THEM ARGH RAAAR" idiocy.


Because it IS us vs. them. Always has been, always will be. That's human nature and not changeable in a free society.
 
2012-08-01 11:00:44 PM  

Lanadapter: @shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!


That happened 4 years ago. The economy is now in a shambles.

Vote Republican, let's get that car of Obama's out of the ditch.
 
2012-08-01 11:13:07 PM  

shotglasss: Lanadapter: @shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!

That happened 4 years ago. The economy is now in a shambles.

Vote Republican, let's get that car of Obama's out of the ditch.


Wow, that is cluelessness defined. The car was in the ditch. Obama has been working hard to get it out, while the guys that drove it into the ditch have been doing their best to thwart him at every turn.

The Republicans said from day one that they would burn America to the ground if it would prevent that Negroid from getting another term. They haven't even bothered to lie about it.

Unless you were being satirical. If so, sorry.
 
2012-08-01 11:29:50 PM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.


Fun fact. The Constitution of the Confederate States of America had such a rule. Article I, Section 9, Clause 20:

Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.
 
2012-08-01 11:36:54 PM  

shotglasss: Lanadapter: @shotglasss: If it makes you feel any better I'm pissed off at both parties bullshiat.

/vote Democrat!

That happened 4 years ago. The economy is now in a shambles.

Vote Republican, let's get that car of Obama's out of the ditch.


That tears it. You're trolling. You've GOT to be trolling. NOBODY can be that completely, utterly stupid.
 
2012-08-01 11:40:06 PM  

elchip: tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question.

Fun fact. The Constitution of the Confederate States of America had such a rule. Article I, Section 9, Clause 20:

Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.


See also Indiana Constitution Article 4, Section 19. Effectively meaningless.
 
2012-08-01 11:55:33 PM  

shotglasss: Keizer_Ghidorah: shotglasss: Yeah, because the Democrats have NEVER tried to add things they want to unrelated bills.

Selective outrage is selective.

I recall many times that BOTH sides have been groused at for doing this shiat. But you continue on with your "US VS THEM ARGH RAAAR" idiocy.

Because it IS us vs. them. Always has been, always will be. That's human nature and not changeable in a free society.


I'm glad stupidity like your's isn't human nature, and that many of us haven't been conditioned by people like Rush, Hannity, Larson, and Savage to treat their fellow humans and Americans as enemies who need to be chased out and destroyed without mercy or conscience.

The economy collapsed before Obama came in. Everything he's tried to to to fix it has been opposed by the right, no matter what it is or what it does, because they're so immature and eptty that they'd rather let America self-destruct than allow that "filthy secret Muslim foreigner Negro" to have any kind of positive event occur. "If I can't have it, NO ONE CAN!!" is their de-facto mindset right now, and it's both sad and terrifying.
 
2012-08-02 12:02:48 AM  
I think anyone who introduces a bill which includes the description "and for other purposes" in the summary, or causes a bill to be amended to do so, they should be made available for public ridicule, censure, and taunting.

"And for other punishments."

/to be snuck in when nobody's looking
//possibly with a hot poker.
 
2012-08-02 12:10:09 AM  
Oh, holy friggin' crap...

112th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 3806

To end the practice of including more than one subject in a single bill by requiring that each bill enacted by Congress be limited to only one subject, and for other purposes.


"and for other purposes"?

My brain asplode.
 
2012-08-02 12:59:39 AM  
The GOP jihad against abortion trumps all else.
 
2012-08-02 01:35:34 AM  

shotglasss: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

8/10. Best of the day.


Hehe, lockers, you know you should knock it off when shotglasss likes it.
 
2012-08-02 07:32:09 AM  
Both efforts would ban abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy in D.C. except when the mother's life is threatened, and imprison or fine doctors who disobey.

This is part of the problem. Lack of voting representation for DC. You can bet the asshole who filed this amendment would never stand for letting someone from DC try to pass laws affecting his constituents, but he doesn't think twice about screwing with the lives of DC citizens.
 
2012-08-02 08:30:23 AM  
R: democrats are so heck bent on allowing the Internet to remain a cesspool of whores and terror evil doers they Voted against a bill to ensure secure nuclear power plants!

D: we voted against it because you stuck an anti-choice rider in the bill.

American People: rider? Like the rental truck? This doesn't sound right and the libral media didn't say that. Libs are lying again. Vote republican.

Ta-dah!
 
2012-08-02 08:40:32 AM  

Emposter: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

Except that no Congress can bind a future Congress, so it wouldn't actually stop anything.

You know what WOULD stop bullshiat like this? An active, informed, and non-retarded electorate. Not that that will ever happen, of course.


Or an amendmet to the constitution which also won't happen. This is similar to the rules of the filibuster. The party in control can change these rules at the beginning of each session on a straight vote. No one does because they fear what will happen when they're in the minority.
 
2012-08-02 09:31:21 AM  
This may have already been said since I'm a bit late to the party, but I need to go on a bit of a rant.

Why the F*$K do they allow amendments that have absolutely nothing to do with the original bill??? This is why nothing gets done. They could have a perfectly constructed Cyber Security bill that everyone can agree on, and then some idiot adds an anti-abortion amendment or a "repeal Obamacare" amendment, and the whole thing falls apart.

This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. Maybe they should work on a law to stop this from happening.

Imagine what could get done if they could just focus on the issue at hand within the bill and not all the BS amendments that people try to sneak in.

It would also probably make the bills/laws much shorter and easier to read and understand.

And I'm done...
 
2012-08-02 09:35:29 AM  
FTFA: Lee's amendment comes as senators wrap up work on a cybersecurity bill authored by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.).

You know what? Let him put his abortion amendment in there, and let it be the poison pill that kills the bill. "Cybersecurity" laws are NEVER good for ordinary internet users, and nor is anything that comes from Sen. Lieberman (I-Cigna)
 
2012-08-02 09:42:08 AM  

tlchwi02: we really need a rule where you can't submit amendments that have fark-all to do with the bill in question. Yes, we get it, you want to raise awareness and foster debate of a pet issue. But other than the press corp, the 7 still living people watching CSPAN and Chris Matthews giant forehead, americans don't give a crap about this sort of posturing.

if you want to discuss abortion or gun control submit new bills and discuss them. if you want to try and tank/tie up legislation forever either rally the votes in one of the houses, read the phonebook to congress for a week or become president. enough with this idiocy


Another thing that amendments that have nothing to do with the bill in question does is that a politician will vote against an otherwise great bill because of a lousy amendment and then in the next election, another politician will say "My opponent voted against this great bill" and conveniently leave out the reason why.
 
2012-08-02 09:51:13 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Another thing that amendments that have nothing to do with the bill in question does is that a politician will vote against an otherwise great bill because of a lousy amendment and then in the next election, another politician will say "My opponent voted against this great bill" and conveniently leave out the reason why.


Don't forget if they vote for the bill you can point out their opponent will say "My opponent voted for/signed this terrible bill" and conveniently leave out the reason why. See the NDAA.
 
2012-08-02 09:52:47 AM  

fusillade762: TV's Vinnie: At least it wasn't about giving more tax breaks to the rich this time.

Or trying vainly to repeal ADA for the umpteenth time.


Yeah, about that.....

FTA:

"The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform"

/right next to the advertisement in the middle
//facepalm (not at you, fusillade762)
 
2012-08-02 09:54:34 AM  
I'm curious what the cyber-security bill had in it. Maybe this was a good thing that it died. Look at all our politicians. Would trust a SINGLE one of them to know enough about computer sciences to make a reasonable decision?
 
2012-08-02 10:18:08 AM  

Solid Muldoon: Women avoiding 18 years of slavery by having a medical procedure that removes a little glob of cells? God will destroy America!

Sending a Sky-Net robot to kill a a whole family at a wedding? Babies and all? Awesome!


It's all a matter of spin.

"Women wantonly [wow man] slaughtering infants to gratify their selfish lifestyle? BOO."

"Our doughty [always wanted to use that] military making the world safe from terrorists? YAY.."

/NOT doughy, plz
 
2012-08-02 10:57:39 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I'm curious what the cyber-security bill had in it. Maybe this was a good thing that it died. Look at all our politicians. Would trust a SINGLE one of them to know enough about computer sciences to make a reasonable decision?


The bill may have been crap but no credit goes to this idiot for blocking via unintended consequences of appealing to fundies
 
2012-08-02 11:20:02 AM  

KiltedBastich: lockers: KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.

Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!

You used big words that denote education, you had no direct references to either Jesus or Reagan, your callouts were not blatant dogwhistles. I stand by my score.


Aren't references to arugula, birth certificates, 57 states, and/or teleprompters required as well? Or are they just for extra credit?
 
2012-08-02 11:34:21 AM  

bujin: KiltedBastich: lockers: KiltedBastich: lockers: How about why have free mandatory abortions of brown people. That way libs get their blood sacrifice their atheist cults demand and conservatives can finally provide a meaningful fight on the war on drugs. Both sides are happy.

2/10 too obvious, not enough dog whistles and misspellings, no references to Jesus or Reagan.

Oh come on, it had it all. I labeled liberals as godless savages, suggested minorities cause the drug problem and left it unsaid that conservatives wouldn't mind ethnic cleansing. It had a little for everyone. There is no pleasing you!

You used big words that denote education, you had no direct references to either Jesus or Reagan, your callouts were not blatant dogwhistles. I stand by my score.

Aren't references to arugula, birth certificates, 57 states, and/or teleprompters required as well? Or are they just for extra credit?


They raise the score, if presented in context in a properly agrammatical way. Misspellings help too.
 
2012-08-02 12:11:01 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Curious: having been introduced in january and we are a day or so away from the august recces, yeah it's dead.

Two can play the political game - somebody needs to reintroduce it (or a similar bill) with a better name.

"Eliminate Antonymous Gainless Legislation Edits."

Nobody would ever vote against the EAGLE Act, no matter how big a corrupt asshole they are.


You know... the Republican party is so concerned about financial responsibility... someone should get a leading Republican to introduce the "Universal Fiscal Integrity Act".
 
2012-08-02 02:10:01 PM  

mainstreet62: "The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform"

/right next to the advertisement in the middle
//facepalm (not at you, fusillade762)


you should EDIT LESS

"The statement came after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) proposed submitting an amendment to repeal healthcare reform, and after Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) filed an amendment to limit the purchase of high-capacity gun magazines. "

time to implement the death penalty for this behavior
 
2012-08-02 03:21:18 PM  

Serious Black: jigger: You know what would stop bullshiat like this?

"One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA)

That bill has more than one subject. My irony meter exploded.

That said, something similar to that should be added to the farking Constitution.


It WAS added to the constitution.

the confederate constitution
 
2012-08-03 01:28:08 PM  

Mike_LowELL: theorellior: I'll just leave this here...

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

So...the Republicans are doing a hell of a job and are deserving of our praise, as they are protecting the homeland from the threats within? The fact you would post that meme in an attempt to insult the Republican Party shows how ass-backwards you stupid libs really are.


I just want to tell you that I am a big fan of your work.
 
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