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(Guardian)   The Japanese now have a 4.5 tonne robot that's armed to the teeth. Bonus: They have an app for it   (guardian.co.uk ) divider line
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2012-08-01 12:35:20 PM  
Time for a smiling spree

/how to ride a kuratas
 
2012-08-01 12:36:24 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: [images.wikia.com image 300x300]


Exactly what I was thinking
 
2012-08-01 12:39:45 PM  

Elegy: StrangeQ: ...is controlled either by a human pilot in a mid-torso cockpit...

Of freaking course it is. Nevermind the plethora of reasons why a humanoid shaped combat vehicle is impractical, the Japanese will not stop until we have one.

That's not quite true. There are a plethora of benefits to a humanoid shaped combat vehicle in rough terrain. Besides, if wheels were so wonderful, evolution would have given us those instead of legs


The problem is with the joints. You can take out a knee a lot more easily than a tank tread.
 
2012-08-01 12:42:25 PM  

offmymeds: [www.gamer.ru image 512x384]

BURN, HERETIC!


Came for this! :D


(Not sure how Rincewind and 40K fit together... )
 
2012-08-01 12:42:47 PM  
ani.me
 
2012-08-01 12:44:41 PM  

StrangeQ: The problem is with the joints. You can take out a knee a lot more easily than a tank tread.


Many city guards will agree with you.
 
2012-08-01 01:09:02 PM  

ThreadSinger: StrangeQ: ...is controlled either by a human pilot in a mid-torso cockpit...

Of freaking course it is. Nevermind the plethora of reasons why a humanoid shaped combat vehicle is impractical, the Japanese will not stop until we have one.

Would the ability to easily cross unbroken terrain be an advantage in this case? Assuming your combat vehicle of choice isn't designed around turbofans/jets/a-grav?


This model would be horrid in rough terrain. One deep trench would cause this thing to falter. Look at it's legs. It cannot travel well over rough terrain. But as I say that, I do mean: THIS model. There may be other models designed in the future that actually work quite a bit better.
 
2012-08-01 01:32:27 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Duh! This should have been first on the list!
 
2012-08-01 01:39:18 PM  
www.myconfinedspace.com

...is unimpressed
 
2012-08-01 01:51:53 PM  

veryequiped: Why do I have a feeling my grand kids will have to figure out how to destroy one of these things


My great grandkid already travelled back in time to save my life once so that I would be able to form the resitance force that will try and fight them.
 
2012-08-01 01:52:49 PM  
endoftheamericandream.com

One mindblowingly WTF moments was when Fukushima melted down- for all the robotic shiat Japan makes, they DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE ROBOT CAPABLE OF OPERATING IN A HAZARDOUS AREA. To do that, it's gotta be capable of maneuvering over rough terrain, keeping an external communications link through walls, and preferably radiation-hardened if you want it to last.

Partly that's indicative of Japan's woefully inadequate nuclear-response plans, but also Japan's long history of robotics seems to have been geared towards creeping people the fark out, rather than doing any useful task.

Seriously. They were sending in people for essential monitoring, inspection, hose placement, and manual valve-turning controls and having them run out as soon as possible. The US was sending over its OWN robots to help out, because we actually made ones useful for this. Less glamorous tank-treaded remote-controlled affairs with actual utility.
 
2012-08-01 01:56:08 PM  

meanmutton:
One metric ton = 1,000 kg
One Imperial ton = 2,000 lbs


A proper, original, god-fearing, British Imperial ton is 2240 lbs, so in the UK there is only 1.6% difference between a ton and a tonne. The Guardian is a UK newspaper.
 
2012-08-01 01:58:10 PM  

dv-ous: ArkPanda: Gecko Gingrich: 4.5 tonne != 4.5 ton

I'll bite. What's the difference? Is one of them shorthand for metric or something?

Yup. Metric tonne (it's french, because they invente the le metric systeme metrique) = 1000kg, which is about 2200-and-something pounds. Ton = 2000 pounds.


fify
 
2012-08-01 02:01:08 PM  
I forgot that the french invented the metric system. Guess they have actually won a war.
 
2012-08-01 02:17:23 PM  

veryequiped: Why do I have a feeling my grand kids will have to figure out how to destroy one of these things


Better teach them to play "Rockit" by Herbie Hancock, it will compel the robot to start dancing and then put itself back in the closet.
 
2012-08-01 02:20:19 PM  

hubiestubert: ciberido: StrangeQ: ...is controlled either by a human pilot in a mid-torso cockpit...

Of freaking course it is. Nevermind the plethora of reasons why a humanoid shaped combat vehicle is impractical, the Japanese will not stop until we have one.

[starsmedia.ign.com image 480x270]

The Japanese put the Yutani in Weyland-Yutani.

To be fair, a humaniform forklift makes some sense. The cargo loader from Aliens was a useful piece of equipment in a gravity environment. Then again, the cargo loader was an exoskeleton for work.

The problem with humaniform combat 'bots, is that they are taller than their base, and that means that tumbling is more a factor. A quad or hex base means more stability, but still, the taller they are, the more of a target they present at a distance. Great if you want to intimidate a crowd, horrible if you actually want a firing platform that might not attract fire from a distance. Which is why you don't see a lot of very tall tanks.

What I want to know, is why the Marines in Avatar weren't rocking their combat suits as drones. A LOT more drones. Piloted mechs with a glass canopy? Really? Couldn't just rock a few more sensors and gimbal mounted guns?


I'd like to believe they weren't combat suits but giant haulers with an option for self-defense against the metric ton of vicious animals that populate the area. In a couple scenes you can see them offloading cargo at the starport. Glass canopies are fine when you are fighting a tiger or hauling equipment and need to see your surroundings on the cheap, there's probably a good reason the events in Avatar turned out as they did, the miners were using industrial equipment and a small detachment of underpowered aerial weapons. Even that giant bomber you could kind of see it as a defensive cargo hauler, why else would they put AA turrets on it if not to shoot down those dinosaurs and only dinosaurs, because those little attack craft they were using would have torn it apart in seconds. Also the company was trying diplomatic solutions until everything went tits-up I doubt they had time to request any sort of firepower.

/Why did I write this?
 
2012-08-01 02:44:49 PM  
Whatever you do don't let Eiichiro Hoba program the thing.
 
2012-08-01 03:05:24 PM  
because i know no one else thought of this.

t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-08-01 03:25:49 PM  

Surool: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 350x280]

Duh! This should have been first on the list!


Why is Doctor Who on that robot's shoulders?
 
2012-08-01 03:31:43 PM  
At 4.5 tons you can hardly call that a mech. Heck, Clan elementals probably way close to that much.
 
2012-08-01 03:36:34 PM  

zarberg: At 4.5 tons you can hardly call that a mech. Heck, Clan elementals probably way close to that much.


If we're sticking in the Battletech world...

ProtoMech

www.sarna.net
 
2012-08-01 03:43:28 PM  

powerferret: [www.myconfinedspace.com image 700x437]

...is unimpressed


What did you expect from inner sphere technology.
 
2012-08-01 03:46:30 PM  
I think humanoid robots will come to pass because everyone would like to have a giant pair of mechanical hands to do the heavy work, and a giant pair of legs to carry them. But the problem is more about interface and software than building the robot itself.

With that taken care of, it aint a big step from this:
dl.dropbox.com
To this:
dl.dropbox.com

/Bigger motors and engines mean more power but take up more space.
/A ten foot tall soldier seems like a bad idea, until you realize it moves like a ten foot tall soldier.
/Playing hide and seek with a thermal vision enabled giant is an intimidating prospect.
 
2012-08-01 03:59:39 PM  
www.oocities.org
 
2012-08-01 04:20:15 PM  
Since the kissing robot version was censored (kissing is soooo racy!), lets try this version:

www.cyberpunkreview.com
 
2012-08-01 05:40:48 PM  

powerferret: [www.myconfinedspace.com image 700x437]

...is unimpressed


Are you in with the rest of us founders in Mechwarrior Online?
 
2012-08-01 05:44:07 PM  

washington-babylon: powerferret: [www.myconfinedspace.com image 700x437]

...is unimpressed

Are you in with the rest of us founders in Mechwarrior Online?


FRR for life! Hahahaha.
 
2012-08-01 05:59:07 PM  
Why is Japan so big on making giant robotic killing machines? Seriously, are they trying to tell us something?

/make the sexbot first, dammit!
 
2012-08-01 06:30:18 PM  

Kit Fister: my favorite Japanese robot/cyborg:

[fc03.deviantart.net image 800x1132]


THIS!
I could not agree more.
 
2012-08-01 06:31:03 PM  

poot_rootbeer: veryequiped: Why do I have a feeling my grand kids will have to figure out how to destroy one of these things

Better teach them to play "Rockit" by Herbie Hancock, it will compel the robot to start dancing and then put itself back in the closet.


Now you've gone and done it.
 
2012-08-01 06:31:52 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: StrangeQ: The problem is with the joints. You can take out a knee a lot more easily than a tank tread.

Many city guards will agree with you.


Much easier. Even bows and arrows are a significant threat.
 
2012-08-01 08:24:43 PM  

Oznog: [endoftheamericandream.com image 587x330]

One mindblowingly WTF moments was when Fukushima melted down- for all the robotic shiat Japan makes, they DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE ROBOT CAPABLE OF OPERATING IN A HAZARDOUS AREA. To do that, it's gotta be capable of maneuvering over rough terrain, keeping an external communications link through walls, and preferably radiation-hardened if you want it to last.

Partly that's indicative of Japan's woefully inadequate nuclear-response plans, but also Japan's long history of robotics seems to have been geared towards creeping people the fark out, rather than doing any useful task.

Seriously. They were sending in people for essential monitoring, inspection, hose placement, and manual valve-turning controls and having them run out as soon as possible. The US was sending over its OWN robots to help out, because we actually made ones useful for this. Less glamorous tank-treaded remote-controlled affairs with actual utility.


Electronics like cameras and microprocessors, surpisingly do not like working in high radiation environments any much more then humans.

There is a reason we haven't been able to get so much as a simple camera into the reactor vessel to see how much of the core is now a molten puddle in the bottom of the sump, or worse yet, flushed into the ocean. too much radiation.
 
2012-08-01 08:26:33 PM  
What does robot need with teeth?
 
2012-08-01 08:27:01 PM  
A 4.5 ton robot armed to the teeth is no match for the average American redneck pickup truck. Those things have truck balls. And enough explosive power to take out the Brooklyn bridge.

Especially the exploding Toyotas.
 
2012-08-01 09:20:34 PM  
No MADOX 01 reference yet? I has a sad.
 
2012-08-01 09:24:10 PM  

Any Pie Left: No MADOX 01 reference yet? I has a sad.


Why do people like you post retarded sh*t like that? Make the reference yourself, or STFU.
 
2012-08-01 09:26:03 PM  
Link

eat it, kid.
 
2012-08-01 09:28:37 PM  
Is this the beginnings of Metal Gear? Where's Snake when we need him.
 
2012-08-01 09:29:04 PM  

Any Pie Left: Link

eat it, kid.


Wait, it took you less than 2 minutes to notice and respond to my post. You spent more time whining about the lack of your favorite robot than it took for you to actually post it. Wow... you are a complete tool.
 
2012-08-01 10:45:28 PM  
Or...

I went way to find the link before you posted your mouth-breathing criticism, and I don't give a damn what you think.
 
2012-08-01 11:28:40 PM  
IT'S HERE! THE GIANT-F**KING-ROBOT OF MY CHILDHOOD IS FINALLY HERE!!! O_O

Granted, it's 1st Gen and doesn't have legs, but, by GOD, I will take it! ;_;

Do they accept kidneys as a form of payment?! >_>
 
2012-08-02 12:31:27 AM  
The problem is that it doesn't have blinkers, so when you're tooling about the streets of Tokyo you need to use hand turn signals like a bicyclist.
 
2012-08-02 01:36:09 AM  

ArkPanda: dv-ous: ArkPanda: Gecko Gingrich: 4.5 tonne != 4.5 ton

I'll bite. What's the difference? Is one of them shorthand for metric or something?

Yup. Metric tonne (it's french, because they invente the metric system) = 1000kg, which is about 2200-and-something pounds. Ton = 2000 pounds.

Thanks. I knew about metric vs. imperial, but I thought the spelling was just the British vs. American version.


This. I know that 2.2lbs in a kilo so that means 1 tonne=1.1 tons

SO that means technically 1 tonne=1 megagram?
 
2012-08-02 05:52:27 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Don't these people watch their own movies?


Hehe yeah even the name of the company that makes it 'Suidobashi Heavy Industry' has the Manga equivalent of the Cyberdyne vibe.
 
2012-08-02 11:46:26 AM  
www.ntsc-uk.com

Reminds me of Phantom Crash. I want it!
 
2012-08-02 03:12:34 PM  
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