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(CNN)   Group of Black pastors launches anti-Obama campaign because they disagree with Obama's support of gay marriage, say they want to be the ones discriminating against people for how they were born for a change   (religion.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 123
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2012-08-01 01:37:55 PM
The Reverend would like to thank these fine white folks for showing him the way and for filling up his bank account.

people.virginia.edu
 
2012-08-01 01:39:18 PM
In other news, it was revealed that black fundie churches crank out much of the same homophobic, misogynistic, anti-intellectual derp that white churches do.

And this isn't the first time a black preacher(s) has taken it upon himself to discriminate against someone he disagrees with: sometime ago, an atheist was elected to the City Council in Asheville, NC. The head of the North Carolina NAACP sued to have this man removed based on an old law stating that atheists can't be elected to office in North Carolina. I'm actually shocked that the fundie wing of the GOP hasn't reached out to fundie black preachers more.
 
2012-08-01 01:40:53 PM
I don't see why they are getting so worked up about this. It is not like Obama is going to DO anything about it. He's just going to reap those gay votes and say see ya suckers when he is re-elected.
 
2012-08-01 01:41:12 PM

wookiee cookie: beta_plus: I think that I saw them at Chick-Fil-A today.

/the line for my local Chick-Fil-A right now is out the door
//line was diverse too - all major races and ethnicities present and accounted for
///in Arlington,VA - not exactly a place friendly to Republicans
////glad I got breakfast - I hate standing in line

there must be a german word out there for gloating over one's hostility and bigotry over a minority


I think it's called CRY MÖAR.

/marriage is not a right
//free speech, free association, and guarantees on private property are
 
2012-08-01 01:43:16 PM
Damn.

When I heard that same-sex marriage would be a part of the Democrats' platform, I was apprehensive because I figured that there would be a few groups who otherwise supported Obama that would turn away because of the issue. Didn't know who the groups would be, but it looks like this is one of them.

Really, this issue would have been better introduced in his second term rather than immediately before an election. It gains Obama few votes from undecideds, but causes a subset of his supporters to leave him. Hopefully it doesn't hurt him too much but the timing seemed unwise.
 
2012-08-01 01:44:51 PM

Pro Zack: I don't see why they are getting so worked up about this. It is not like Obama is going to DO anything about it. He's just going to reap those gay votes and say see ya suckers when he is re-elected.


Well there was that dadt thing

You want to elect people who will do something about the gays? Vote GOP
 
2012-08-01 01:45:36 PM

Lost Thought 00: AntiNerd: I never thought I would see the day when the Coloreds would be advocating the denial of civil rights to others. But here we are.

Everyone needs someone else to look down upon. It helps prevent them from looking up and recognizing the people holding them down.


Last-Place Avoidance Syndrome. Look it up. It explains so much about why middle class and lower keep voting for candidates who only benefit the wealthy. I believe that there was even a FARK thread about it some months ago.

See also the South Park episode "The Poor Kid" (season finale of the previous season), which appears to have been at least partly satire on that subject (news of the research had been in the news shortly before that episode would've been written). Cartman was just fine with being the second poorest kid in school, so long as he had somebody poorer than him to rag on.
 
2012-08-01 01:47:27 PM

beta_plus: /marriage is not a right


I seriously hope you're being paid to do this. I'd hate to think that somebody would act this retarded for free.
 
2012-08-01 01:50:00 PM
Where is the right for straight people to get married spelled out in the Constitution? I could be one of the few arguing against ANY civil marriage. If there's seone you want to have power of attorney, there's a form for that. Are you the baby-daddy? There's a test and a form for that. Want to joint own property? There's a form for that.
 
2012-08-01 01:50:22 PM

MonkeyAngst: TheLopper: Dear Space Aliens,
We don't deserve to run this planet anymore. Please come and take us over. We'd make great pets.

[i.imgur.com image 319x400]
Agrees.


Interestingly, here is Perry espousing his belief in God and quoting Leviticus.
 
2012-08-01 01:56:03 PM
There used to be a group of people who used the bible to discriminate against others.... this history lesson may be relevant to the black community.
 
2012-08-01 01:56:34 PM

AntiNerd: I never thought I would see the day when the Coloreds would be advocating the denial of civil rights to others. But here we are.


It all depends on whose ox is being gored.
 
2012-08-01 01:56:45 PM

hippyneil: azazyel: I think they should talk to this guy

or this guy...


Nice, it almost makes me want to go to a church.
 
2012-08-01 01:57:45 PM

beta_plus: //free speech, free association, and guarantees on private property are


a spouse is a form of private property...
 
2012-08-01 01:57:55 PM
chick fli a has some good breakfast items.
didn't know that till today.
 
2012-08-01 01:59:25 PM

wookiee cookie: beta_plus: I think that I saw them at Chick-Fil-A today.

/the line for my local Chick-Fil-A right now is out the door
//line was diverse too - all major races and ethnicities present and accounted for
///in Arlington,VA - not exactly a place friendly to Republicans
////glad I got breakfast - I hate standing in line

there must be a german word out there for gloating over one's hostility and bigotry over a minority


Kristallnact?
 
2012-08-01 02:01:10 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-01 02:05:07 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: wookiee cookie: beta_plus: I think that I saw them at Chick-Fil-A today.

/the line for my local Chick-Fil-A right now is out the door
//line was diverse too - all major races and ethnicities present and accounted for
///in Arlington,VA - not exactly a place friendly to Republicans
////glad I got breakfast - I hate standing in line

there must be a german word out there for gloating over one's hostility and bigotry over a minority

Kristallnact?


America's current genocide against homosexuals is truly appalling.
 
2012-08-01 02:11:38 PM
Hey Look! There's a baby riding a big one right out the window!

Idiots.
 
2012-08-01 02:18:16 PM
I remember that speech pretty well, I think it went something like this, "I have a dream that one day my people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but whether or not they have gay buttsex."

Equality for some. Miniature flags for everybody else.
 
2012-08-01 02:18:45 PM

Esc7: FTFA:

Owens has long been an opponent of gay marriage and consults with the National Organization for Marriage as a liaison to the black churches.

Earlier this year, memos obtained by The Human Rights Campaign in a Maine civil actions suit revealed that NOM aims at making gay marriage a wedge issued "between gays and blacks," according to the released confidential plans.

"The strategic goal of this project is to drive a wedge between gays and blacks - two key Democratic constituencies," one NOM memo states.

Link


Yeah sure, whatever you say, you mercenary shill.


My predominantly black church has a gay pastor who's married to a guy in the choir, but you'll never read a story about us in the national news.
 
2012-08-01 02:20:40 PM
Hey look, black people are not thinking the right way again! We need to change that!

/But that's not racist.
//Farking liberals.
 
2012-08-01 02:22:18 PM
"When I need preachers, I buy 'em cheap." Huey Long
 
2012-08-01 02:23:11 PM

Bossk'sSegway: I remember that speech pretty well, I think it went something like this, "I have a dream that one day my people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but whether or not they have gay buttsex."

Equality for some. Miniature flags for everybody else.


By the way, we should all take a moment to remember one the men who played a crucial role in organizing the March On Washington (during which King gave his "I Have A Dream" speech).

www.jesus-is-savior.com

Link
 
2012-08-01 02:23:12 PM

Daraymann: Hey look, black people are not thinking the right way again! We need to change that!

/But that's not racist.
//Farking liberals.


Please explain how the simple act of disagreeing with a group of black preachers is racist
 
2012-08-01 02:27:15 PM

Daraymann: Hey look, black people are not thinking the right way again! We need to change that!

/But that's not racist.
//Farking liberals.


I think it's a terrible shame that black preachers have been reached out to by an anti-gay group to cause division in the black community during an election year. I think it's terrible that these black preachers are willing to limit the rights of others.

/Liberal.
//Black.
///Christian.
////My denomination allows gay marriage; can I impose my faith on others who disagree with that? No? Oh well.
 
2012-08-01 02:32:46 PM
"Born this way."

You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means (as there is no biological evidence for that claim. And when there is, I'll buy it. Until then, look for scientific answers that explain homosexual behavior, even if it manifests in some ways from early youth).
 
2012-08-01 02:33:56 PM
At the press conference, Owens said that Obama's support of same-sex marriage tantamount to supporting child molestation. "If you watch the men who have been caught having sex with little boys, you will note that all of them will say that they were molested as a child..." Owens said. "For the president to condone this type of thing is irresponsible."

Why are there no straight pedophiles?
 
2012-08-01 02:35:21 PM
HighOnCraicI think it's a terrible shame that black preachers have been reached out reach around to by an anti-gay group to cause division in the black community during an election year.

ftfy
 
2012-08-01 02:48:17 PM
The trolls here are so lazy they've resorted to telling us where they (mythically) ate breakfast.

As for the actual article, it's a sad, sick thing that a segment of religious blacks have apparently forgotten what civil rights is all about. So here's a reminder:
storycorps.org
 
2012-08-01 02:49:27 PM
This is an interesting moment in black history.
 
2012-08-01 02:50:54 PM
Jodeo

Not sure if serious...
 
2012-08-01 03:19:45 PM
I was actually thinking about this when I walked by the Chick-Fil-a in my office building. Today is "ZOMG support FREEDOM OF SPEECH (to be a bigot) at Chick-Fil-a today, and I noticed that most of the crowd was African American.

About 50 years ago, white people were lining up to support FREEDOM OF SPEECH (to be a bigot) against African Americans. Did they all forget about that? Really?


I get the white, southern people I went to high school with lining up in droves at Chick-Fil-a today. Most of them would (still) be fine with a similar showing against interracial marriage. But, seeing one formerly oppressed group of people now turning on a currently oppressed group of people seems insane.
 
2012-08-01 03:34:29 PM
I wonder how much of this is driven by the higher rates of AIDS among black gay men, and some sort of belief that this is a god-given disease to punish...
 
2012-08-01 03:39:05 PM

cmb53208: Daraymann: Hey look, black people are not thinking the right way again! We need to change that!

/But that's not racist.
//Farking liberals.

Please explain how the simple act of disagreeing with a group of black preachers is racist


The same way disagreeing with a black president is.
 
2012-08-01 03:42:08 PM

The_Great_Hambino: I was actually thinking about this when I walked by the Chick-Fil-a in my office building. Today is "ZOMG support FREEDOM OF SPEECH (to be a bigot) at Chick-Fil-a today, and I noticed that most of the crowd was African American.

About 50 years ago, white people were lining up to support FREEDOM OF SPEECH (to be a bigot) against African Americans. Did they all forget about that? Really?


I get the white, southern people I went to high school with lining up in droves at Chick-Fil-a today. Most of them would (still) be fine with a similar showing against interracial marriage. But, seeing one formerly oppressed group of people now turning on a currently oppressed group of people seems insane.


Do that many people even know about the chick-fil-a thing? it seems like old news on here but curious if you asked a bunch of people on the street what they'd say about it.
 
2012-08-01 03:42:29 PM

Cat Food Sandwiches: cmb53208: Daraymann: Hey look, black people are not thinking the right way again! We need to change that!

/But that's not racist.
//Farking liberals.

Please explain how the simple act of disagreeing with a group of black preachers is racist

The same way disagreeing with a black president is.


touche
 
2012-08-01 03:42:31 PM
Gayness goes hand in hand, almost literally...

With poop.

I don't care how you're looking at it...from whatever side you're looking at it...

That's nasty.

Just saying.
 
2012-08-01 03:52:08 PM

Rawhead Rex: Gayness goes hand in hand, almost literally...

With poop.

I don't care how you're looking at it...from whatever side you're looking at it...

That's nasty.

Just saying.


This is quite possibly the most ignorant statement I've seen in the past month or so, and that's saying a lot.
 
2012-08-01 03:52:11 PM
Oh man, I'm getting posts on facebook that their are lines are massive for Chick-Fil-A food truck in downtown DC. The only one of two places to vote for Mondale!

Even hipsters are saying Yay to Chick-Fil-A!

/freedom of speech means that you let people that you don't like speak
//apparently Chicago GOP is using freedom of speech legislation against Emmanual - LOL!
 
2012-08-01 03:52:15 PM
There's nothing more American than denying civil liberties to other groups of people so that you can look down on someone and forget about your position in the social caste.
 
2012-08-01 03:55:13 PM

colon_pow: chick fli a has some good breakfast items.
didn't know that till today.


When I mow my lawn I often become sweaty.
 
2012-08-01 03:56:05 PM

Cat Food Sandwiches: cmb53208: Daraymann: Hey look, black people are not thinking the right way again! We need to change that!

/But that's not racist.
//Farking liberals.

Please explain how the simple act of disagreeing with a group of black preachers is racist

The same way disagreeing with a black president is.


tempest.fluidartist.com
 
2012-08-01 03:58:01 PM

Headso: The_Great_Hambino: I was actually thinking about this when I walked by the Chick-Fil-a in my office building. Today is "ZOMG support FREEDOM OF SPEECH (to be a bigot) at Chick-Fil-a today, and I noticed that most of the crowd was African American.

About 50 years ago, white people were lining up to support FREEDOM OF SPEECH (to be a bigot) against African Americans. Did they all forget about that? Really?


I get the white, southern people I went to high school with lining up in droves at Chick-Fil-a today. Most of them would (still) be fine with a similar showing against interracial marriage. But, seeing one formerly oppressed group of people now turning on a currently oppressed group of people seems insane.

Do that many people even know about the chick-fil-a thing? it seems like old news on here but curious if you asked a bunch of people on the street what they'd say about it.



Yepharkabee and Santorum announced a "Support Chick-Fil-a Day" for today. Pretty much everyone who watches Fox News is at Chick-Fil-a today, along with a lot of other people just trying to get lunch and confused about the excessive amount of derp that's there today.
 
2012-08-01 03:59:59 PM

swahnhennessy: The trolls here are so lazy they've resorted to telling us where they (mythically) ate breakfast.

As for the actual article, it's a sad, sick thing that a segment of religious blacks have apparently forgotten what civil rights is all about. So here's a reminder:
[storycorps.org image 600x456]


Trust me, you'd support freedom of speech too if you ever had their breakfast burrito. Second only to the Egg McMuffin for breakfast sandwiches.
 
2012-08-01 04:07:00 PM

Rawhead Rex: Gayness goes hand in hand, almost literally...

With poop.

I don't care how you're looking at it...from whatever side you're looking at it...

That's nasty.

Just saying.


Once again proving my point that the people who don't like gays are simply obsessed with anal sex.
 
2012-08-01 04:07:02 PM

Sabyen91: colon_pow: chick fli a has some good breakfast items.
didn't know that till today.

When I mow my lawn I often become sweaty.


couldn't even get there at lunch. drive thru line was down the street. parking lot was full, so people were walking there from all directions. freakin homophobes.
 
2012-08-01 04:07:57 PM

colon_pow: Sabyen91: colon_pow: chick fli a has some good breakfast items.
didn't know that till today.

When I mow my lawn I often become sweaty.

couldn't even get there at lunch. drive thru line was down the street. parking lot was full, so people were walking there from all directions. freakin homophobes.


I hate when the cut grass gets into my socks. It leaves my ankles itchy and red.
 
2012-08-01 04:13:55 PM

beta_plus: Trust me, you'd support freedom of speech too if you ever had their breakfast burrito.


Yes, because my issue with what someone says obviously means I do not support their right to say it.

beta_plus: Second only to the Egg McMuffin for breakfast sandwiches.


You disgust me.
 
2012-08-01 04:15:26 PM
If any of you, with genius insight, want to tell me how I'm

Rawhead Rex: Gayness goes hand in hand, almost literally...

With poop.

I don't care how you're looking at it...from whatever side you're looking at it...

That's nasty.

Just saying.


If any of you enlightened geniuses want to tell me how I'm wrong, please be my guest.
I'm half-way interested to see how you make light of shiat all over a dick and a room full of fetid odor...
During "love-making".

Again...it's disgusting.

Prove me wrong...go right ahead.
 
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