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(NASA)   Landing of Mars rover Curiosity to be broadcast live on Times Square jumbovision at 1:31 AM EDT, August 6. You will be permitted to smooch at time of touchdown   (nasa.gov) divider line 40
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2012-08-01 11:03:50 AM  
Kinda want to go, but I despise Times Square.
 
2012-08-01 11:05:31 AM  
I admit, I get a little teary-eyed when I watch the YouTube video of the Spirit rover. The pure joy in that room...

Link

Can't wait for this upcoming landing, God I hope it works!
 
2012-08-01 11:07:36 AM  
NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.
 
2012-08-01 11:07:45 AM  
AMERICA FARK YEAH! \m/, ,\m/
 
2012-08-01 11:11:06 AM  
It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).
 
2012-08-01 11:12:06 AM  

pudding7: I admit, I get a little teary-eyed when I watch the YouTube video of the Spirit rover. The pure joy in that room...

Link

Can't wait for this upcoming landing, God I hope it works!


Around 8:15 is the best when they start getting imags from the rover. Thanks or posting that.
 
2012-08-01 11:13:07 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).


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2012-08-01 11:16:31 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).

wendywhinerdebbiedowner.jpg


Wrong SNL chracter is wrong.
 
2012-08-01 11:19:10 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,'


i bet you are a blast at parties.
 
2012-08-01 11:20:02 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).


Buh? The sun is 8 light-minutes (~1 AU) away from us, and Mars is usually closer than that. Unless you're factoring in image cleanup and broadcast delay (are they expecting naughty words or space boobies?), how do you get 14 minutes?

Well, I'll be damned. Mars is currently ~1.6 AU from us; damn near 14 light-minutes.

// asked and answered
 
2012-08-01 11:27:42 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).


Oh, shut up.
 
2012-08-01 11:39:02 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.


Seems so. Would be a tad embarassing to have the thing crash and burn on live TV.
 
2012-08-01 11:41:03 AM  
Mars Olympics

America: Gold
Two orbiters around Mars, and six successful landings so far on the red planet compared to just one from Russia and none from anyone else.

Europe: Silver
Not a bad go, orbiter around Mars but failed in their first landing and having a tough time finding the money for any other Mars missions.

Russia: Bronze
Hasn't been able to send anything beyond low earth orbit since 1988, which were two Phobos missions that got to Mars but were only partially successful. Last two Mars missions by Russia have crashed back to earth. Made the first successful landing on Mars, unfortunately it didn't do them a lot of good seeing as they lost communications shortly after.
 
2012-08-01 11:43:26 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).


Well if you want to get all nitpicky, then nothing is ever broadcast "live". It always has some lightspeed delay.
 
2012-08-01 11:49:02 AM  

StrangeQ: Shrugging Atlas: NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.

Seems so. Would be a tad embarassing to have the thing crash and burn on live TV.


Soundstage footage has already been shot. So no worries.
 
2012-08-01 11:55:09 AM  

StrangeQ: Shrugging Atlas: NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.

Seems so. Would be a tad embarassing to have the thing crash and burn on live TV.


I'm wondering if they are gambling that this works with the hope it will honestly wow people by the accomplishment and thus raise NASA's profile (and maybe funding) since the skycrane part in particular is just so out there. Nevermind the fact it will have put a remote vehicle the size of a small SUV on anoher planet regardless of how managed to land.

If it crashes and burns for any reason including the skycrane most will likely just shrug it off as "another NASA farkup" or "landing shiat on other planets is a crapshoot no matter how you try it" depending on how rational they are.
 
2012-08-01 12:11:24 PM  
Does not like being startled...
 
2012-08-01 12:12:01 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Does not like being startled...


megatron.jpg that is.
 
2012-08-01 12:14:26 PM  
I have to add my voice to the sky crane doubters. High fives to NASA if they pull this off but I have to wonder what they were smoking when they came up with the design.
 
2012-08-01 12:15:57 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).


Actually given what we know of space and time, it is "Live". It takes 14 minutes for NOW Mars to become NOW Earth. Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing it live, we'd be seeing in in the past. We don't time travel in this family..
 
2012-08-01 12:24:35 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).


FTFA:

"Programming will originate from Mission Control at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory's (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif."
 
2012-08-01 12:26:17 PM  
If the SkyCrane works, consider me Miles Davis.
 
2012-08-01 12:33:46 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.


Was thinking the same thing, if they want to broadcast this live like that, they must really expect no problems...

/hate for this to go down like Best Korean "satellite" launch
 
2012-08-01 12:44:50 PM  

MindStalker: Actually given what we know of space and time, it is "Live". It takes 14 minutes for NOW Mars to become NOW Earth. Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing it live, we'd be seeing in in the past. We don't time travel in this family..


Colonel Sandurz: You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now.
Dark Helmet: What happened to then?
Colonel Sandurz: We passed then.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now. We're at now now.
Dark Helmet: Go back to then.
Colonel Sandurz: When?
Dark Helmet: Now.
Colonel Sandurz: Now?
Dark Helmet: Now.
Colonel Sandurz: I can't.
Dark Helmet: Why?
Colonel Sandurz: We missed it.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now.
Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Colonel Sandurz: Soon.
 
2012-08-01 12:56:16 PM  
if the xbox game for it is any indication of how well it works I'd say the odds are stacked waaaaay against them
 
2012-08-01 01:15:13 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: StrangeQ: Shrugging Atlas: NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.

Seems so. Would be a tad embarassing to have the thing crash and burn on live TV.

I'm wondering if they are gambling that this works with the hope it will honestly wow people by the accomplishment and thus raise NASA's profile (and maybe funding) since the skycrane part in particular is just so out there. Nevermind the fact it will have put a remote vehicle the size of a small SUV on anoher planet regardless of how managed to land.

If it crashes and burns for any reason including the skycrane most will likely just shrug it off as "another NASA farkup" or "landing shiat on other planets is a crapshoot no matter how you try it" depending on how rational they are.


Then it's only a matter of time.
www.toysyouhad.com

/cant farking wait
 
2012-08-01 01:20:22 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).

Buh? The sun is 8 light-minutes (~1 AU) away from us, and Mars is usually closer than that. Unless you're factoring in image cleanup and broadcast delay (are they expecting naughty words or space boobies?), how do you get 14 minutes?

Well, I'll be damned. Mars is currently ~1.6 AU from us; damn near 14 light-minutes.

// asked and answered


Yea, somebody really needs to innovate the speed of light, or at least get that quantum-entanglement thingy worked out. My biggest proof that there is no God is that He would never have tried to run the cosmic equivalent of "Crysis" on a freaking Amiga if He actually existed. :P

Still very cool. Hard to imagine what the strain of having to wait umpteen months for your little robot to crawl across the vast reaches of space feels like.
 
2012-08-01 01:24:36 PM  

Dr Dreidel: space boobies?


space boobies!
space boobies!
space boobies!
space boobies!
 
2012-08-01 01:32:46 PM  
Good thing NBC doesn't have exclusive rights to the broadcast.
 
2012-08-01 01:36:25 PM  

clovis69: Good thing NBC doesn't have exclusive rights to the broadcast.


They'd cut into coverage just before landing for an interview with Jorge the janitor by Bob Costas. Which is odd since they would have had 6 hours to accurately edit the footage...
 
2012-08-01 01:45:54 PM  

ThreadSinger: Hard to imagine what the strain of having to wait umpteen months for your little robot to crawl across the vast reaches of space feels like.


How many people have their careers riding on this thing? Hundreds? I'd be shiatting bricks those last few minutes.

Maybe we should have a pool on how this thing fails. I am going with the sky crane release mechanism fails and the robot crashes to the surface with the sky crane still attached.

/so many modes of failure to choose from...
 
2012-08-01 02:06:48 PM  
Hmmm I get back from Montreal Sunday evening, and my wife is out of town until Tuesday. If I'm not totally hungover and dead-tired from the bachelor party up there, then I may actually try to go see this! It's about a 7 minute walk from my apartment.
 
2012-08-01 02:13:09 PM  

Grither: Hmmm I get back from Montreal Sunday evening, and my wife is out of town until Tuesday. If I'm not totally hungover and dead-tired from the bachelor party up there, then I may actually try to go see this! It's about a 7 minute walk from my apartment.


Cool, are you partying it up in Montreal? Hanging out at Divers Cite? Exploring our rich history of potholes?
 
2012-08-01 02:21:57 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: StrangeQ: Shrugging Atlas: NASA must really be feeling confident about this sky crane.

Seems so. Would be a tad embarassing to have the thing crash and burn on live TV.

I'm wondering if they are gambling that this works with the hope it will honestly wow people by the accomplishment and thus raise NASA's profile (and maybe funding) since the skycrane part in particular is just so out there. Nevermind the fact it will have put a remote vehicle the size of a small SUV on anoher planet regardless of how managed to land.


I can see that. It's nice to see someone actually taking a gamble for once, instead of the same old "take no action unless it is a 100% for sure thing".
 
2012-08-01 02:44:51 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Cool, are you partying it up in Montreal? Hanging out at Divers Cite? Exploring our rich history of potholes?


Hah, well, I went to McGill, but it's a bachelor party for a friend who did not. So it's most likely going to consist of strip clubs, steak dinners, and the casino for a bit (boo). Maybe some gokarts or paintball during the day Saturday. Any recommendations?
 
2012-08-01 05:04:56 PM  

MindStalker: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).

Actually given what we know of space and time, it is "Live". It takes 14 minutes for NOW Mars to become NOW Earth. Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing it live, we'd be seeing in in the past. We don't time travel in this family..


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Point taken. I only meant to clarify that a lot of people will take 'live' to mean 'happening right now,' instead of 'more than a few moments ago'. I mean, sports coverage calls it a 'replay' if it's any time at all after the original event, and my sense is that that's about the level of most people's grasp of most things. An earlier Fark article was all about the nailbiting that will go on during the delay, due to the serious time lag. Thanks for being decent about it. Too bad some other people decided to be dicks instead.
 
2012-08-01 05:10:58 PM  

Ambitwistor: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: It's rationally impossible for it to be broadcast 'live,' given the time lag between Mars and here. They mean they'll get it to the screen as soon as they can, which will be a dead minimum of 14 minutes after the facts on the ground (as it were).

Well if you want to get all nitpicky, then nothing is ever broadcast "live". It always has some lightspeed delay.


That's a good point, and one of the weirder things I learned when I was in radio. The more guts you put between you and the listener, the greater the actual, real-time signal delay. It's practically imperceptible, but our engineer could actually measure it and show you. He said it's sometimes actually relevant, though, when you have to synchronise parallel systems. (I confess I really don't know what systems he was talking about, but I assumed he did.) We also had a clock that got its time from a satellite, and he told me that when you first set up the clock, you put in your geocoordinates to calibrate it: The clock works partly by calculating the time it takes the signal to get your specific point on the earth's surface. Whoo, relativity.
 
2012-08-01 05:21:23 PM  

Grither: Quantum Apostrophe: Cool, are you partying it up in Montreal? Hanging out at Divers Cite? Exploring our rich history of potholes?

Hah, well, I went to McGill, but it's a bachelor party for a friend who did not. So it's most likely going to consist of strip clubs, steak dinners, and the casino for a bit (boo). Maybe some gokarts or paintball during the day Saturday. Any recommendations?


Anything should be fine. The weather's really nice now. You should try to attend Divers-Cite, it's kind of a gay village thing. Fun.

Food: If you are patient, eat at Kazu on Ste-Catherine near Concordia U. Line up outside, rain or shine. Tiny Japanese place, expensive but well worth it. The Korean hot pot place right beside is good value for money, but not as good as Kazu.

Strip clubs, there you're on your own, they're all the same to me. I don't go to the restaurant to smell the food if you see what I mean. Massage places on the south shore is where it's at.

Casino's fun I guess and the food was good last I went, but this was years ago.
 
2012-08-01 05:49:46 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Point taken. I only meant to clarify that a lot of people will take 'live' to mean 'happening right now,' instead of 'more than a few moments ago'. I mean, sports coverage calls it a 'replay' if it's any time at all after the original event, and my sense is that that's about the level of most people's grasp of most things. An earlier Fark article was all about the nailbiting that will go on during the delay, due to the serious time lag. Thanks for being decent about it. Too bad some other people decided to be dicks instead.


[LIVE] means 'as soon as technologically capable of transmitting images.' they don't call them replays when they show them over and over and over again in slow motion from multiple angles as soon as the ball is dead on the field. There's also a 5-7 second delay in case John Madden starts drunkenly dropping F-bombs during MNF.

so there's an unavoidable 14 minute delay between what happens on Mars and its transmission back to earth, it's still [LIVE]
 
2012-08-02 01:05:57 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Anything should be fine.


Cool, thanks for the advice! I'm not sure these guys are the patient type, but hot pot sounds awesome.
 
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