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2012-08-01 09:51:12 AM
"Those who own guns, own more guns," said Josh Sugarmann, the executive director and founder of the Violence Policy Center, a Washington-based gun control advocacy group.

This makes sense to me. Most people who legally purchase guns are buying them to shoot them, and I imagine just like every other hobby, you get bored with the same thing. I know everybody likes the "redneck stockpiles guns" theory of gun ownership, but I imagine most new purchases are driven by "I own a .22 and a .38. I wonder what it's like to shoot a .45?"

I mean, I fly R/C planes, and I own 14 of them. The likelihood that someone who flys R/C planes will have more than one is pretty damn high. I'd expect the same behavior from gun hobbyists.
 
2012-08-01 10:18:03 AM

Lsherm: "Those who own guns, own more guns," said Josh Sugarmann, the executive director and founder of the Violence Policy Center, a Washington-based gun control advocacy group.

This makes sense to me. Most people who legally purchase guns are buying them to shoot them, and I imagine just like every other hobby, you get bored with the same thing. I know everybody likes the "redneck stockpiles guns" theory of gun ownership, but I imagine most new purchases are driven by "I own a .22 and a .38. I wonder what it's like to shoot a .45?"

I mean, I fly R/C planes, and I own 14 of them. The likelihood that someone who flys R/C planes will have more than one is pretty damn high. I'd expect the same behavior from gun hobbyists.


Exactly. This concept apples to any hobby one engages in.
 
2012-08-01 10:41:08 AM
Well, we gotta be number 1 at *something*...
 
2012-08-01 10:50:13 AM

Lsherm: "Those who own guns, own more guns," said Josh Sugarmann, the executive director and founder of the Violence Policy Center, a Washington-based gun control advocacy group.

This makes sense to me. Most people who legally purchase guns are buying them to shoot them, and I imagine just like every other hobby, you get bored with the same thing. I know everybody likes the "redneck stockpiles guns" theory of gun ownership, but I imagine most new purchases are driven by "I own a .22 and a .38. I wonder what it's like to shoot a .45?"

I mean, I fly R/C planes, and I own 14 of them. The likelihood that someone who flys R/C planes will have more than one is pretty damn high. I'd expect the same behavior from gun hobbyists.


It's like my knife collection.

I started cooking with a crap faberware fruit knife. Soon, I wanted more. Last I checked I could run two restaurants without buying so much as a paring knife.
 
2012-08-01 10:53:42 AM
I see one of my points has already been made twice. Possibly more times by the time I finish typing this.

I bought my first gun about three years ago. I bought it because I thought knowing how to use a firearm, even if you never want to, was an important part of being a well-rounded human. When I learned that I really liked going to the range and the zen of target shooting, I wondered what it would be like to shoot clays (awesome) and so on. Like most people who have a hobby they enjoy a lot, it becomes a bit of an obsession.

No one thinks Lshem is a dangerous whackjob for his 14 RC planes, but anyone whose hobby is shooting is automatically a dangerous hill-billy.

I'm still the left-of-center socially liberal guy I was three years ago, I just have a hobby that involves loud, fun machines. Why should the right-wingers get to have all that fun?


Also:The United States tends to have better data on gun numbers than other countries, for instance Somalia or the Democratic Republic of the Congo, or any other of a number of countries. There, you just stated that this study is bullsh*t three paragraphs in to the story about it.
 
2012-08-01 11:12:31 AM
So?
 
2012-08-01 11:14:57 AM
I wonder how much of that is due to very restrictive gun laws? (UK, Australia, I'm looking at you...)
 
2012-08-01 11:14:59 AM
Is this, or is this not counting the multitude of weaponry floating around the middle east, south america, africa, etc? I have a hard time believing that these statistics, especially from the VPC.
 
2012-08-01 11:15:25 AM
"If you use a 12-gauge shotgun to shoot a rabbit, the rabbit won't exist after you shoot it"

Awesome.
 
2012-08-01 11:15:25 AM
Yeah so don't f*ck with us
 
2012-08-01 11:15:37 AM

Calmamity: No one thinks Lshem is a dangerous whackjob for his 14 RC planes, but anyone whose hobby is shooting is automatically a dangerous hill-billy.


That's because if he started flying them around in a movie theater, he'd just be annoying. Target shooting is fun, but let's not forget that a gun is a tool with one main purpose.
 
2012-08-01 11:15:42 AM

Tat'dGreaser: So?


I got into shooting just last year... and I now own something like 4 or 5 guns.

Gotta have one of every type, you know?

Handgun, semi-auto rifle, shotgun, bolt-action, etc.
 
2012-08-01 11:15:51 AM
They'll catch-up
 
2012-08-01 11:15:58 AM
This would be a problem if gun-owners could shoot more than one gun (maybe 2 if you're John Woo) at a time. Gun enthusiasts like guns and guns have very different uses. If I want to shoot targets at 200 yards I'm not going to use a walther p22.
 
2012-08-01 11:16:10 AM
Breaking news: people who play hockey own the bulk of the hockey sticks in the world. It's a fact.
 
2012-08-01 11:16:17 AM
I used to be part of the 1%, but sadly, my handgun was stolen along with everything in my house (I was out of the country). Never have seen it again (suprise) and havent' had the money to reinvest. #OccupyMyGunSafe
 
2012-08-01 11:17:02 AM
So... they actually admit very early in the article that the whole thing is BS, because many countries have no clue how many guns are there... and yet the article still gets written?

Yeah... um...
 
2012-08-01 11:17:19 AM

ladyfortuna: I wonder how much of that is due to very restrictive gun laws? (UK, Australia, I'm looking at you...)


Most British-born countries actually allow a fair amount of gun ownership if you're willing to go through the trouble and expense of licensing and permits, and your local police know and like you. But yes, the restrictive (and expensive) rules regarding gun ownership in most of the world are what keep (legal, known) gun ownership down in those places.
 
2012-08-01 11:18:48 AM
I just remembered that this exists.
 
2012-08-01 11:19:06 AM
Oh goody. A gun thread. We haven't seen one of these in hours.
 
2012-08-01 11:19:28 AM
I missed how they come up with the figures. I have owned a few rifles and pistols over the years and never participated in a "Do you own a gun" survey. I had a rifle stolen years back; does the survey change because the gun changed ownership from a person who owned 4 guns to one who just stole one? Ever since I took statistics back in high school, I have doubted statistics. (According to a survey, I own 600% more guns than my two neighbors!)
 
2012-08-01 11:19:38 AM

Click Click D'oh: So... they actually admit very early in the article that the whole thing is BS, because many countries have no clue how many guns are there... and yet the article still gets written?

Yeah... um...


This.
 
2012-08-01 11:21:38 AM
The number of households owning guns has declined from almost 50% in 1973 to just over 32% in 2010,

What a bunch of pussies. How do these sheeple expect to defend themselves from the wolves or the wolves in sheep's clothing like Obama who want to leave them at the mercy of the wolf thugs.

Sheeple need the Goat Man. I hide among the herd, disguised, waiting for the wolves. Goat Man will protect you.

Ever watchful, ever vigilant... Goat Man.
 
2012-08-01 11:22:02 AM
I'd love to know what percentage of the world's guns are owned by governments and private military companies. Does this take that into account at all?
 
2012-08-01 11:22:32 AM
I think Gun manufacturers should work on the social acceptability of their products more than they have. Many people only see guns in movies where someone is up to no good, or on the news where someone is up to no good. If they spent some money promoting awareness of sports and athletes like that sweetheart Kimberly Rhode (medalist and record holder), or Vince Hancock (medalist of two Olympic games and soldier) people would be aware of peaceful, traditional and recreational enjoyment of firearms and its place in America's heritage and quirky culture.
 
2012-08-01 11:22:44 AM
bullshiat. Gun ownership is UP in the USA, it is not in decline. A common lie among the gun prohibitionist crowd.

Link
 
2012-08-01 11:23:25 AM

SpoilerAlert: Calmamity: No one thinks Lshem is a dangerous whackjob for his 14 RC planes, but anyone whose hobby is shooting is automatically a dangerous hill-billy.

That's because if he started flying them around in a movie theater, he'd just be annoying. Target shooting is fun, but let's not forget that a gun is a tool with one main purpose.


Yeah, and that purpose is to accelerate a projectile to a high rate of speed. If someone were to be hit by that projectile, they could be seriously injured or killed - just like if someone was hit by an RC plane, or a car, or a baseball.
 
2012-08-01 11:23:31 AM

SpoilerAlert: Calmamity: No one thinks Lshem is a dangerous whackjob for his 14 RC planes, but anyone whose hobby is shooting is automatically a dangerous hill-billy.

That's because if he started flying them around in a movie theater, he'd just be annoying. Target shooting is fun, but let's not forget that a gun is a tool with one main purpose.


We literally have hundreds of millions of guns in the US that are never used for that "one main purpose".
 
2012-08-01 11:24:42 AM
Keep working it, tool. Mutual Assured Distraction is the name of the game, right?
 
2012-08-01 11:24:52 AM
While this is a "story" based on an admittedly shoddy study, at least they come to good conclusions:
1. Diversity of use (hunting, home defense, target practice)
2. Marketing to owners (you don't see S&W ads in non-gun magazines)
3. The demographic for gun ownership is aging and thus shrinking
4. Third-world sh*tholes with militias roaming the countryside don't have any account of anything, much less weapons

I'll second the hobby thing; I now own six guitars and they all have a different purpose, I have had 12 over the years as well as five amps. Who gets guitar ads and catalogs? Guitar players.
 
2012-08-01 11:26:51 AM
If you think the way we arm ourselves is bad, you should look at our government. Sure we arm ourselves, but we are also being slowly subjugated by a government which is resolute on enforcing its will all over the globe, and will stop at nothing. It militarizes all the local police forces. For terrorism?!? Just how many enemy "terrorists" does it expect to make out of ordinary U.S. citizens? Face it, our government has ceased to be a "representative government", and has now become an "occupational government".
 
2012-08-01 11:26:52 AM
This makes perfect sense. The 99% can't afford guns.
 
2012-08-01 11:28:55 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: bullshiat. Gun ownership is UP in the USA, it is not in decline. A common lie among the gun prohibitionist crowd.

Link


Odd that the same graph is in both articles, obviously with some differences in data, and yet drastically different conclusions are reached. Gun ownership has spiked in the last year or so, but still has been in decline over the past two decades.

I guess because I'm not terrified I don't read this as a political statement against my rights.
 
2012-08-01 11:29:05 AM
Here's they key paragraph that should tell you that TFA is completely overblown:

The United States tends to have better data on gun numbers than other countries, for instance Somalia or the Democratic Republic of the Congo, which may account for the high percentage, according to Alan Lizotte, dean and professor at the School of Criminal Justice at The University at Albany.

There are estimates that the production of the AK-47 (plus its variants and descendants) exceeds 100 million units. A negligible percentage of those weapons can be found in the U.S. Much of the rest can be found in various third-world hellholes where every male over the age of 10 seems to have one and reliable statistics are non-existent.
 
2012-08-01 11:29:25 AM
I own 28 different guns. Some I like to shoot for fun,(Walther G-22, Calico 9mm Liberty, AR-7, FS2000) some are just historic collectibles (Mauser C96, Enfield rifle, Mosin, M1), some are rare and unusual (Mateba Unica 6, Hi-Standard Model 10) and a couple are for personal defense.

Glad to know I am doing my part to bring up the percentage.

Finaly, I'm a 1%er!
 
2012-08-01 11:29:53 AM

SpoilerAlert: Target shooting is fun, but let's not forget that a gun is a tool with one main purpose.


Yeah, moving a projectile at high velocities. So?
 
2012-08-01 11:29:53 AM

probesport: "If you use a 12-gauge shotgun to shoot a rabbit, the rabbit won't exist after you shoot it"

Awesome.


So the "expert" that they quoted for your above quote is:

Alan Lizotte, dean and professor at the School of Criminal Justice at The University at Albany

Alan obviously has little experience with guns. A 12-gauge isn't a magical vaporizing death ray.
 
2012-08-01 11:29:59 AM
In other news, 32% of people surveyed still think it's a good idea to advertise that you have multiple firearms in your home, down from almost 50% in 1973.
 
2012-08-01 11:30:30 AM

Lsherm: "Those who own guns, own more guns," said Josh Sugarmann, the executive director and founder of the Violence Policy Center, a Washington-based gun control advocacy group.

This makes sense to me. Most people who legally purchase guns are buying them to shoot them, and I imagine just like every other hobby, you get bored with the same thing. I know everybody likes the "redneck stockpiles guns" theory of gun ownership, but I imagine most new purchases are driven by "I own a .22 and a .38. I wonder what it's like to shoot a .45?"

I mean, I fly R/C planes, and I own 14 of them. The likelihood that someone who flys R/C planes will have more than one is pretty damn high. I'd expect the same behavior from gun hobbyists.


What the hell? I came here for snark and name calling! What the hell is this?
 
2012-08-01 11:30:44 AM

Kit Fister: Is this, or is this not counting the multitude of weaponry floating around the middle east, south america, africa, etc? I have a hard time believing that these statistics, especially from the VPC.


I believe exactly nothing that comes from the VPC or the Brady Bunch. They have absolutely no problem telling out right lies to push their anti-gun agenda.

I have no idea how many times I heard morons from those two organizations say that you can walk into any gun store and buy assault weapons with no background check after the CO cinema shooting. They actually called the bill that established background checks on purchases "The Brady Bill" but they still lie about it to spread fear.
 
2012-08-01 11:31:05 AM
And 2 GOLD MEDALS in shooting!
 
2012-08-01 11:31:27 AM
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2012-08-01 11:31:48 AM
Ok, explain this... Currently, the pro-gun feeling in American culture is now so strong EVEN THE POLITICS TAB is no match for it.

That, my friends, is power.
 
2012-08-01 11:32:21 AM

HAMMERTOE: If you think the way we arm ourselves is bad, you should look at our government. Sure we arm ourselves, but we are also being slowly subjugated by a government which is resolute on enforcing its will all over the globe, and will stop at nothing. It militarizes all the local police forces. For terrorism?!? Just how many enemy "terrorists" does it expect to make out of ordinary U.S. citizens? Face it, our government has ceased to be a "representative government", and has now become an "occupational government".


So your proposed solution is to...?
 
2012-08-01 11:34:22 AM

Callous: Kit Fister: Is this, or is this not counting the multitude of weaponry floating around the middle east, south america, africa, etc? I have a hard time believing that these statistics, especially from the VPC.

I believe exactly nothing that comes from the VPC or the Brady Bunch. They have absolutely no problem telling out right lies to push their anti-gun agenda.

I have no idea how many times I heard morons from those two organizations say that you can walk into any gun store and buy assault weapons with no background check after the CO cinema shooting. They actually called the bill that established background checks on purchases "The Brady Bill" but they still lie about it to spread fear.


Yeah! Like that whole "Brady was shot in the head" thing - total Bull Shiat!
 
2012-08-01 11:34:27 AM
Gee they made 200 million Ak-47 and varients.

And how many show up on this stupid farking list?

about .001%.

Stupid article is stupid.
 
2012-08-01 11:34:29 AM
 
2012-08-01 11:35:38 AM

MythDragon: I own 28 different guns. Some I like to shoot for fun,(Walther G-22, Calico 9mm Liberty, AR-7, FS2000) some are just historic collectibles (Mauser C96, Enfield rifle, Mosin, M1), some are rare and unusual (Mateba Unica 6, Hi-Standard Model 10) and a couple are for personal defense.

Glad to know I am doing my part to bring up the percentage.

Finaly, I'm a 1%er!


My Mosin Carbine is my favorite rifle to shoot... ever.

Ive been trying to get a Kar98k or a nice Enfield, but people seem to be holding onto them these days.
 
2012-08-01 11:35:49 AM

MythDragon: I own 28 different guns.


How do you like your Calico? A local shop has one in .22lr...neat concept, but I don't relish the idea of over-winding the magazine.

And how do you like the Mateba Unica? I'm really diggin' on my Rhino. It's not a semi-auto revolver, but still fun. :D
 
2012-08-01 11:36:01 AM

Click Click D'oh: So... they actually admit very early in the article that the whole thing is BS, because many countries have no clue how many guns are there... and yet the article still gets written?

Yeah... um...


Journalism doesn't have any standards anymore. You can write anything in a title as long as it has a question mark.

ARE 99% OF FARKERS LIVING IN THEIR MOTHER'S BASEMENT? Find out, news at 10
 
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