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2012-08-01 12:22:18 AM
"Pike's 2010 salary was listed as $110,243.12."

Holy crap! I know people who, actually know how to do stuff that make half that much.
This unskilled buffoon was making more than many medical professionals?

I wonder what the rest of that goon squad is pulling in?
And people have the balls to say that welfare is the reason taxes are too high?
 
2012-08-01 12:36:23 AM

TommyymmoT: "Pike's 2010 salary was listed as $110,243.12."

Holy crap! I know people who, actually know how to do stuff that make half that much.
This unskilled buffoon was making more than many medical professionals?

I wonder what the rest of that goon squad is pulling in?
And people have the balls to say that welfare is the reason taxes are too high?


Well, if he was a Lieutenant, that's not all that surprising, they are pretty high up, being above detectives, sergeants and officers, respectively.
 
2012-08-01 12:40:47 AM
He should apply at the Anaheim PD.
 
2012-08-01 12:59:39 AM
May I suggest:

www.blogcdn.com
 
2012-08-01 01:18:01 AM
I usually say "what's good for the goose is good for the gooser", but instead of my initial thought of letting all the protesters, that he blasted in the face with pepper spray, hog tie him and spray him in the face, I've come up with a better idea. Let 'em hog tie Pike and spray him in the butt crack and junk with several cans of expanding foam.
 
2012-08-01 01:23:59 AM

PacManDreaming: I usually say "what's good for the goose is good for the gooser", but instead of my initial thought of letting all the protesters, that he blasted in the face with pepper spray, hog tie him and spray him in the face, I've come up with a better idea. Let 'em hog tie Pike and spray him in the butt crack and junk with several cans of expanding foam.


AFTER the pepper spray
 
2012-08-01 01:40:50 AM
i'm glad that guy is no longer on the police force. hopefully he'll never work in law enforcement ever again.
 
2012-08-01 05:22:43 AM
I'm still not convinced this was "horrific". The students got unruly and did surround the cops. The full video shows that they weren't letting the cops leave. They demanded straight out that the cops they weren't going to let them leave unless they released the people they'd already arrested. On what planet can you do that WITHOUT getting your ass kicked, even if you sit down?

The part where Pike stepped over them isn't indicative of the situation. They wouldn't let the group of officers leave, not with the people they'd arrested. Essentially they were holding the group hostage.

I'm not saying pepper spray is always the best response, but it's a legitimate option.
 
2012-08-01 05:30:14 AM

Oznog: I'm still not convinced this was "horrific". The students got unruly and did surround the cops. The full video shows that they weren't letting the cops leave. They demanded straight out that the cops they weren't going to let them leave unless they released the people they'd already arrested. On what planet can you do that WITHOUT getting your ass kicked, even if you sit down?

The part where Pike stepped over them isn't indicative of the situation. They wouldn't let the group of officers leave, not with the people they'd arrested. Essentially they were holding the group hostage.

I'm not saying pepper spray is always the best response, but it's a legitimate option.



Yes, because surrounding them all peacefully and sitting down is holding someone "hostage"
 
2012-08-01 05:37:45 AM

Oznog: I'm still not convinced this was "horrific". The students got unruly and did surround the cops. The full video shows that they weren't letting the cops leave. They demanded straight out that the cops they weren't going to let them leave unless they released the people they'd already arrested. On what planet can you do that WITHOUT getting your ass kicked, even if you sit down?

The part where Pike stepped over them isn't indicative of the situation. They wouldn't let the group of officers leave, not with the people they'd arrested. Essentially they were holding the group hostage.

I'm not saying pepper spray is always the best response, but it's a legitimate option.


I liked watching the original clip and watching the students back the officers out to the street, where they clearly had nothing blocking their retreat.

Maybe you saw a different clip? Could you post it?
 
2012-08-01 05:38:17 AM

Oznog: I'm still not convinced this was "horrific".


Neither is any judicial or investigative body, so you are in good company.
 
2012-08-01 05:44:03 AM

TommyymmoT: "Pike's 2010 salary was listed as $110,243.12."

Holy crap! I know people who, actually know how to do stuff that make half that much.
This unskilled buffoon was making more than many medical professionals?


Police are unionized. And it may upset you to know that, depending on the circumstances of him leaving, which weren't revealed in the article, he will probably be collecting that salary, or a significant percent of it, as a pension for the rest of his life. No I don't like the public "servant" pension system either.
 
2012-08-01 05:44:44 AM

Oznog: I'm still not convinced this was "horrific". The students got unruly and did surround the cops. The full video shows that they weren't letting the cops leave. They demanded straight out that the cops they weren't going to let them leave unless they released the people they'd already arrested. On what planet can you do that WITHOUT getting your ass kicked, even if you sit down?


If you can't find the clip, maybe you could at least explain the legal legerdemain on how spraying a bunch of kids sitting down instead of the supposed ones blocking their retreat is a valid application of force?
 
2012-08-01 05:45:38 AM
He was only spraying Occupiers, it's not like they were real people that matter.
 
2012-08-01 05:49:14 AM

GleeUnit: May I suggest:

[www.blogcdn.com image 250x389]


An interesting suggestion, however I don't think running him over with a Segway will be punishment enough. Perhaps throwing him under the bus will work. Oh wait, they're already doing that.
 
2012-08-01 06:04:25 AM
img834.imageshack.us
 
2012-08-01 06:07:39 AM
Yolo county?
 
2012-08-01 06:13:04 AM
".... suspended with pay..."

do you see why folks hate cops?
 
2012-08-01 06:14:20 AM
If it's any consolation...I'm sure his severance pay was substantial.
 
2012-08-01 06:15:43 AM
Woah. That's a lot of money.

University cops work hard, though, and in general are really good people.

On Thanksgiving we accidently set of the fire alarm in our apartment while cooking. Some 50-year-old officer came to shut it off. We got to talking to him and leaned he'd been on patrol since 12PM the previous day. It was 3PM. So the poor guy was working more than 24-hours straight, on Thanksgiving.

/said the pay was good and he was having a beer when he got home
 
2012-08-01 06:17:20 AM

My pr0n name is Tom Seaview: [img834.imageshack.us image 504x325]


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/my personal favorite of the UC Davis pepper spray memes.
 
2012-08-01 06:27:38 AM

Snapper Carr: My pr0n name is Tom Seaview: [img834.imageshack.us image 504x325]

[img19.imageshack.us image 634x420]

/my personal favorite of the UC Davis pepper spray memes.


cdn.smosh.com

I like that one, but this is one of my personal favorites.
 
2012-08-01 06:34:44 AM
This 'SUSPENDED WITH PAY' BS needs to be abolished asap. 'They' need to be held accountable for their actions and giving someone essentially a paid vaycay for acting illegally AND immorally is clearly not a deterrant. It should be 'SUSPENDED WITHOUT PAY' and you'll be lucky if you get your job back if found not guilty. Not to mention your pension would ALSO be on the line.
As it stands now, there is basically no consequence for their actions.

/And that's all I have to say about that.
 
2012-08-01 06:50:00 AM

hestheone: ".... suspended with pay..."

do you see why folks hate cops?

This is quite standard with people in positions of trust/authority such as police and teachers, and for good reason. They will get suspended immediately upon allegation of a serious offence in order to err on the side of caution - taking away somebody's income based on an (unproven) allegation is rather severe. That said, once found guilty, it might be reasonable to claw that money back.
 
2012-08-01 06:57:02 AM

My pr0n name is Tom Seaview: [img834.imageshack.us image 504x325]


Look how scared those three officers are. You can virtually smell the fear coming off of them. The old boy to the right is so petrified he's forgotten to put his face shield down and has obviously become so panic-stricken that the rictus of fear that was on his face mere moments ago has been replaced by a placid, almost vacant expression. He has given up and has accepted his fate.

His colleague with his back to the camera is quite obviously trying to push through that crowd of hostage takers, you can tell from his body language that he's scared half to death and just wants to escape.

As for the officer who has quite obviously been driven to the last resort, but is courageous enough to not go that far and is instead using less-than-lethal measures, his rigid stance and his obviously hurried demeanour are more akin to a startled gazelle than a brutal authority figure. He has nowhere to run to and nowhere to hide yet maintains his discipline. He's an inspirational figure.

I don't know how anybody can defend the obviously belligerent and downright dangerous crowds that are blatantly baying for blood. Take a closer look: most of them have cameras and phones out, ready to launch a fusillade of electronic missiles at the beleaguered officers, some of which could really cause quite a big bruise.

It's a disturbing portrait of our times.
 
2012-08-01 07:04:23 AM

killiemary: This 'SUSPENDED WITH PAY' BS needs to be abolished asap. 'They' need to be held accountable for their actions and giving someone essentially a paid vaycay for acting illegally AND immorally is clearly not a deterrant.


That's a guilty until proven innocent mindset. The suspension with pay is during the period when there is an investigation to see if anything illegal has occurred. So far no one has determined the officer did anything illegal. Although he may have violated department policy about dealing with people who refuse to obey a lawful order, about which I have no information.

You can't take away someone's pay for unsubstantiated reasons. Suppose I say killiemary touched me inappropriately. You lose your paycheck until someone can prove me wrong. Sucks, eh? Until you determine if there was any wrongdoing you have two options, leave them on the job with pay, or suspend them with pay.

As for the lifetime pension system, I agree it shouldn't exist in the first place.
 
2012-08-01 07:04:38 AM

TommyymmoT: "Pike's 2010 salary was listed as $110,243.12."

Holy crap! I know people who, actually know how to do stuff that make half that much.
This unskilled buffoon was making more than many medical professionals?

I wonder what the rest of that goon squad is pulling in?
And people have the balls to say that welfare is the reason taxes are too high?


Crikey. My husband is half of the team that runs, builds, and maintains the servers for a NY state college (small one but not THAT small). He makes about a third of that =/ - I get/believe that those guys should get decent pay because the job can be dangerous, but that's a bit much!
 
2012-08-01 07:05:35 AM
I hear he's going into gardening.

i.qkme.me
 
2012-08-01 07:06:44 AM
That asshole blew a $110,000 per-year job so he could do that??

fark him. Now he's not just a thug, he's also a dumbass.

What an idiot.

I hope he ends up being a bus monitor taunted by teenagers.
 
2012-08-01 07:08:18 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: TommyymmoT: "Pike's 2010 salary was listed as $110,243.12."

Holy crap! I know people who, actually know how to do stuff that make half that much.
This unskilled buffoon was making more than many medical professionals?

Police are unionized. And it may upset you to know that, depending on the circumstances of him leaving, which weren't revealed in the article, he will probably be collecting that salary, or a significant percent of it, as a pension for the rest of his life. No I don't like the public "servant" pension system either.


I'd say, "so vote Republican," except I think police unions are the ONLY unions Republicans like.

/could be wrong
 
2012-08-01 07:10:07 AM

TommyymmoT: "Pike's 2010 salary was listed as $110,243.12."

Holy crap! I know people who, actually know how to do stuff that make half that much.
This unskilled buffoon was making more than many medical professionals?

I wonder what the rest of that goon squad is pulling in?
And people have the balls to say that welfare is the reason taxes are too high?


Can't it be both? He is just one of millions of overpaid public servants.
 
2012-08-01 07:15:15 AM

Smoking GNU: Oznog: I'm still not convinced this was "horrific". The students got unruly and did surround the cops. The full video shows that they weren't letting the cops leave. They demanded straight out that the cops they weren't going to let them leave unless they released the people they'd already arrested. On what planet can you do that WITHOUT getting your ass kicked, even if you sit down?

The part where Pike stepped over them isn't indicative of the situation. They wouldn't let the group of officers leave, not with the people they'd arrested. Essentially they were holding the group hostage.

I'm not saying pepper spray is always the best response, but it's a legitimate option.


Yes, because surrounding them all peacefully and sitting down is holding someone "hostage"


Blocking a walk way in an attempt to prevent people from using it is by nature not "peaceful" non-violent, peaceful, no.

I would agree they weren't holding them "hostage" but they were chanting they wouldn't move unless the people they arrested were released.


starsrift: maybe you could at least explain the legal legerdemain on how spraying a bunch of kids sitting down instead of the supposed ones blocking their retreat is a valid application of force


The kids were sitting in a circle around the officers with linked arms blocking their path. I think pepper spray, after mulitple warnings, is a valid use of force.
 
2012-08-01 07:20:14 AM

liam76: Smoking GNU: Oznog: I'm still not convinced this was "horrific". The students got unruly and did surround the cops. The full video shows that they weren't letting the cops leave. They demanded straight out that the cops they weren't going to let them leave unless they released the people they'd already arrested. On what planet can you do that WITHOUT getting your ass kicked, even if you sit down?

The part where Pike stepped over them isn't indicative of the situation. They wouldn't let the group of officers leave, not with the people they'd arrested. Essentially they were holding the group hostage.

I'm not saying pepper spray is always the best response, but it's a legitimate option.


Yes, because surrounding them all peacefully and sitting down is holding someone "hostage"

Blocking a walk way in an attempt to prevent people from using it is by nature not "peaceful" non-violent, peaceful, no.

I would agree they weren't holding them "hostage" but they were chanting they wouldn't move unless the people they arrested were released.


starsrift: maybe you could at least explain the legal legerdemain on how spraying a bunch of kids sitting down instead of the supposed ones blocking their retreat is a valid application of force

The kids were sitting in a circle around the officers with linked arms blocking their path. I think pepper spray, after mulitple warnings, is a valid use of force.


You sound like a cop.

/typical stupid cop, but a cop
 
2012-08-01 07:25:03 AM
When will cops in this country discover that they too are blue-collar (literally) workers and stop stomping other blue collar people?
 
2012-08-01 07:25:23 AM

liam76: but they were chanting


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-01 07:26:31 AM
I think we can be sure that he got to keep his full pension and got at least 10 years of salary as part of the settlement. I knew pepper spraying hippies was funny but I never thought of it as lucrative,
 
2012-08-01 07:27:36 AM

liam76: The kids were sitting in a circle around the officers with linked arms blocking their path. I think pepper spray, after mulitple warnings, is a valid use of force.


No, they weren't. Unless you've seen video the rest of us haven't.
 
2012-08-01 07:30:02 AM

SoxSweepAgain: You sound like a cop.


You sound like a spoiled shild who thinks he can do whatever he wants in a public space and stop people from being arrested just because you have a bunch of your spoiled children friends around.

I generally don't like what has been going on with police in the US. I am agaisnt no-knock warrants, think that cops who shoot people at the wrong house should be charged with murder, etc. Most cop threads on Fark I come down squarely against them, and to be honest when I first saw this picture I felt the cop was int he wrong. After seeing the whole video though, I got no roblemw ith it.

they were surrounded by people who refused to let them leave with someone who was lawfully arrested. They could have either let the arrested person go, or use soem type of force to get peopel otu of the way. Pepper spreay is pretty low on the force scale. He wasn't blasting it in the eyes of people chained down, he wasn't spraying at people running away, he wasn't bashing them with batons to get them to move.
 
2012-08-01 07:31:05 AM

xanadian: I hear he's going into gardening.

[i.qkme.me image 625x416]


$110G to pepper spray college hippies? Where do I apply?
 
2012-08-01 07:37:37 AM

susler: liam76: The kids were sitting in a circle around the officers with linked arms blocking their path. I think pepper spray, after mulitple warnings, is a valid use of force.

No, they weren't. Unless you've seen video the rest of us haven't.


What video did you watch? Do you think the just blocked the sidewalk, not circled them? Were you unaware they were refusingt o leave unless their friends were released?


Check out youtube, UC davis pepper spray incident, four different views. At work so I can't get it now.
 
2012-08-01 07:37:49 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: killiemary: This 'SUSPENDED WITH PAY' BS needs to be abolished asap. 'They' need to be held accountable for their actions and giving someone essentially a paid vaycay for acting illegally AND immorally is clearly not a deterrant.

That's a guilty until proven innocent mindset. The suspension with pay is during the period when there is an investigation to see if anything illegal has occurred. So far no one has determined the officer did anything illegal. Although he may have violated department policy about dealing with people who refuse to obey a lawful order, about which I have no information.


i understand that you can't just suspend them without pay based on nothing but an allegation. but how long does it take for the police to do an investigation? according to the article, "he has been on paid leave since the debacle unfolded last year." that's ten months! it takes the cops ten months to investigate whether or not the guy broke the rules? they have the whole incident on video!
 
2012-08-01 07:38:47 AM
xanadian
I'd say, "so vote Republican," except I think police unions are the ONLY unions Republicans like.


Riiiiight police are allll evil republicans

Police Unions to Endorse Obama/Biden
Today, the Obama-Biden campaign is holding a conference call with Senator Joe Biden to proudly announce the endorsement of the National Association of Police Organizations (NAPO). NAPO President Tom Nee will join Senator Biden on the call and the two will talk about Senator Obama's strong track record on law enforcement issues, support for law enforcement officers and commitment to keeping our communities safe.

NAPO represents more than 2,000 police unions and associations, 238,000 sworn law enforcement officers, 11,000 retired officers and more than 100,000 citizens who share a common dedication to fair and effective crime control and law enforcement.


But hey don't let that stop your derp
 
2012-08-01 07:41:22 AM

liam76: The kids were sitting in a circle around the officers with linked arms blocking their path. I think pepper spray, after mulitple warnings, is a valid use of force.


What kind of pathetic weakling can't push his way through a few stupid hippies? One that shouldn't be a cop.
 
2012-08-01 07:43:54 AM

enderthexenocide: i understand that you can't just suspend them without pay based on nothing but an allegation. but how long does it take for the police to do an investigation? according to the article, "he has been on paid leave since the debacle unfolded last year." that's ten months! it takes the cops ten months to investigate whether or not the guy broke the rules? they have the whole incident on video


What rule do you think he broke?
 
2012-08-01 07:46:51 AM

liam76: What rule do you think he broke?


Using excessive force when clearly in no danger at all. Also, making the entire department look like lazy sadists that can't even be assed to pick up a nightstick.

Just wait til the cops get drones armed with beanbag rounds. What cops might look like in the future:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-08-01 07:47:33 AM

epoc_tnac: liam76: The kids were sitting in a circle around the officers with linked arms blocking their path. I think pepper spray, after mulitple warnings, is a valid use of force.

What kind of pathetic weakling can't push his way through a few stupid hippies? One that shouldn't be a cop.


I agree that if he couldn't push his way through (especially given the dozen or so buddies he had with him in the students circle) he shouldn;t be a cop. Problem is if they went and pushed their way through while trying to hold on tot he peopel they had already arrested it is likely that one of the peopel with linked arms would get hurt. Getting stepped on or knocked aside when you have linked arms with someoen else has a good chance of breaking a bone or two. As it is with pepper spray two people went to the hospital with no damage after their eyes were flushed. Plus after pepper spray opther peopel aren't going to rush in to "reinforce" that part fo the circle. They go barging through it could be another story.
 
2012-08-01 07:49:48 AM

epoc_tnac: liam76: What rule do you think he broke?

Using excessive force when clearly in no danger at all. Also, making the entire department look like lazy sadists that can't even be assed to pick up a nightstick.


Cops aren't only allowed to use force when in danger.

I would much rather get pepper sprayed then bashed with a nightstick.

Pepper spray to force people to move isn't excessive in any jurisdiction that I know of.
 
2012-08-01 07:51:11 AM

OnlyM3: xanadian
I'd say, "so vote Republican," except I think police unions are the ONLY unions Republicans like.


Riiiiight police are allll evil republicans


The derp is all you.

Scott Walker Responds To Romney Comment: Firemen And Police Are Not 'Big Gubbament'

Republicans need a strong police force to break the other unions.
 
2012-08-01 07:54:07 AM
How long is it before someone contacts him on LinkedIn and invites him in for an interview? As he's seated in the waiting room, briefcase in his lap, the scent of freshly printed résumé all around him, the door bursts open and six folks with pepper spray hose him down?

Just wondering.
 
2012-08-01 07:54:15 AM
Hopefully, he ends up a dich digger.
 
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