I actually envision a future much like Cyberpunk, or Post-Cyberpunk works where Information-Theoretical death will take president over Clinical Death. Advances in Cybernetics, Bionics, Cloud Computing, and the development of practical DNA and Quantum Computing systems will further advance us to the point where things like Neuromancer, and Ghost in the Shell, become reality rather than works of fiction.

haemaker: Ray Kurzweil isn't Russian.

Came for this

Just in time for fusion power and my Mars condo to be built...

Would "you" want your consciousness and personality to live on inside a computer?

I'm torn. I guess its a matter of the soul, and if that's a thing.

I'd hate to miss out on Battlefield 47, but the astral plain sounds cool too.

ourbigdumbmouth: Would "you" want your consciousness and personality to live on inside a computer?

I'm torn. I guess its a matter of the soul, and if that's a thing.

I'd hate to miss out on Battlefield 47, but the astral plain sounds cool too.

I'd like to continue living if it were possible, rather than take a risk that there is nothing afterwards.

The law of accelerating returns implies some amazing things about the coming decades. We are in the elbow of the technological curve and it's about to shoot off into infinity. Post-scarcity, immortality, limitless experiences. Possible in our lifetimes.

I would think that with immortality comes boredom, after a while.

ourbigdumbmouth: Would "you" want your consciousness and personality to live on inside a computer?

Can I attach some bad-ass grappling arms to the computer?

Quantum Apostrophe: Just in time for fusion power and my Mars condo to be built...

This post illustrates just how much trolls let you down. Farkers, look at this and despair. QA posts ENDLESSLY how the space program is a complete waste of time until we perfect life extension. Here is an article about life extension, his ostensible goal, and he has no time for it.

Fano: Quantum Apostrophe: Just in time for fusion power and my Mars condo to be built...

This post illustrates just how much trolls let you down. Farkers, look at this and despair. QA posts ENDLESSLY how the space program is a complete waste of time until we perfect life extension. Here is an article about life extension, his ostensible goal, and he has no time for it.

I don't post endlessly on the "space program" being a waste. First you need to define what the "space program" is. Sending probes is one thing, fine. I don't think I've ever had a problem with that. I don't really get the enthusiasms for pictures of rocks anymore, but I used to be 8 years old. I remember.

But then jumping to the "species must get off this rock" and space elevators and all the other bilge, that's the problem. You'll never, ever find that I've said otherwise. The delusional set of beliefs that seem just around the corner in any space story is what I object, vigorously.

We will never colonize the Moon, there will never be asteroid mining, or condos on Mars. It's complete crap, and it's a religion for techies. Full stop.

This immortality story is on the same order of crap as Space Nuttery. Just some stupid graphic and grandiose claims.

The only way to extend life is to understand how the hell atoms organize themselves into life.

We've already extended our healthy lifespan just in the last century. Yet we take it for granted, and we certainly don't want more life, that's very noble of us. But we seriously want to explore the galaxy that's a 100,000 light years across, but we'll do it with the lifespan of a gnat.

How can people who swallow pseudo-scientific crap wholesale, reject the historical reality that we've already extended our lifespan, and that we should continue to do so?

Quantum Apostrophe: I don't post endlessly on the "space program" being a waste. First you need to define what the "space program" is. Sending probes is one thing, fine. I don't think I've ever had a problem with that. I don't really get the enthusiasms for pictures of rocks anymore, but I used to be 8 years old. I remember.

Dude, you contradicted yourself with two consecutive sentences. Despite your dismissive remark, 'pictures of rocks' is a scratch on the surface of how we extract our understanding of alien worlds. Planetary science is essential to comprehending our own world and how it works. We need to understand how our magnetosphere shields us from the cosmic wind like a rock in river. How subtle changes on the composition of our atmosphere could change or destroy biomes. I'm fairly certain at this point that you really believe the things you say, and it pains me that you see a future so constrained by our modern limitations.

Quantum Apostrophe: Fano: Quantum Apostrophe: Just in time for fusion power and my Mars condo to be built...

This post illustrates just how much trolls let you down. Farkers, look at this and despair. QA posts ENDLESSLY how the space program is a complete waste of time until we perfect life extension. Here is an article about life extension, his ostensible goal, and he has no time for it.

I don't post endlessly on the "space program" being a waste. First you need to define what the "space program" is. Sending probes is one thing, fine. I don't think I've ever had a problem with that. I don't really get the enthusiasms for pictures of rocks anymore, but I used to be 8 years old. I remember.

But then jumping to the "species must get off this rock" and space elevators and all the other bilge, that's the problem. You'll never, ever find that I've said otherwise. The delusional set of beliefs that seem just around the corner in any space story is what I object, vigorously.

We will never colonize the Moon, there will never be asteroid mining, or condos on Mars. It's complete crap, and it's a religion for techies. Full stop.

This immortality story is on the same order of crap as Space Nuttery. Just some stupid graphic and grandiose claims.

The only way to extend life is to understand how the hell atoms organize themselves into life.

We've already extended our healthy lifespan just in the last century. Yet we take it for granted, and we certainly don't want more life, that's very noble of us. But we seriously want to explore the galaxy that's a 100,000 light years across, but we'll do it with the lifespan of a gnat.

How can people who swallow pseudo-scientific crap wholesale, reject the historical reality that we've already extended our lifespan, and that we should continue to do so?

Tick tick tick...
What's that sound?
Tick tick tick...

QA is becoming a cartoonishly bitter and old man who is getting older and older by the second and it scares the hell out of him.

/also he was raped by an alien.

Immortal at 62 eh?

Well I hope they have age reversal! Unless I'm rich I won't pick up any 20 somethings.

I love singularity ideas and don't not believe them.

But I doubt the brain transplantation by 2020. Even if the technology exists, the ethics of it are too heavy. Who would volunteer for such a thing? What happens when they wake up? Probably screams of intense agony as the nerves would probably just be receiving a lot of random noise.

Teufelaffe: Quantum Apostrophe: How can people who swallow pseudo-scientific crap wholesale, reject the historical reality that we've already extended our lifespan, and that we should continue to do so?

So, your argument against seeking immortality is that we should instead work on extending our lifespan?

Um...yeah...that makes perfect sense.

That's why I said his earliest post in the thread indicated how trolls let you down; they don't even succeed when their dreams are hinted at. See any other farker that had watched QA might assume he would be excited about such a claim, or have something (positive/negative) to say about it. Instead the crude initial remark about fusion power and Martian Condos.

I was born in the year 2503 but I'm not yet immortal.

/goddamn good-for-nothing Thai calendar.

torusXL: I love singularity ideas and don't not believe them.

But I doubt the brain transplantation by 2020. Even if the technology exists, the ethics of it are too heavy. Who would volunteer for such a thing? What happens when they wake up? Probably screams of intense agony as the nerves would probably just be receiving a lot of random noise.

It will happen in China

or somewhere off the grid, for the first time. After achieved...

torusXL: But I doubt the brain transplantation by 2020. Even if the technology exists, the ethics of it are too heavy. Who would volunteer for such a thing? What happens when they wake up?

I can never see a full-on transplant, because of those fears.
The best bet is to replace piece by piece, until all the sweet, delicious meat is gone.

Holographic body, consciousness in a computer? To hell with that. Cryo freeze me and wake me when they can clone my body as it was in my mid 20s and transplant my consciousness to it. Or until we make contact with a hot alien species that just want to fark us silly.

dennysgod: I would think that with immortality comes boredom, after a while.

So have some memories wiped and learn the piano all over again.

There are different types/flavors of immortality.

1) Will live forever, barring anything that would normally cause death (methuselah)

2) Will live forever, even through anything that would cause a normal death, but is weak to a specific type of death (vampires, highlanders)

3) Will live forever, even through catastrophic damage, the body regenerates (wolverine)

4) Will live forever, even through catastrophic damage, the consciousness finds a new host body (a countless number of evil overlord type dudes in sci-fi/fantasy)

5) Will live forever, due to a complete immunity to damage/destruction (demigods)

but why would anyone with the resources to carry this out give up the benefits of vampirism?

dalovindj: The law of accelerating returns implies some amazing things about the coming decades. We are in the elbow of the technological curve and it's about to shoot off into infinity. Post-scarcity, immortality, limitless experiences. Possible in our lifetimes.

As long as the fossil fuels hang in there anyway. When we run out of fossil fuels we run out of civilization.

Robinette Broadhead is not impressed.

/obscure?

Ghost in the Magic Shell

I'm guessing that by 2040 we might be able to compute the interference patterns to emit to display a low-resolution computer generated image moving in real time. Over or inside a very limited display volume.

Why would I want to somehow be such a display when I have the choice to stay in an artificial brain and portable, sensor-laden body, presumably upgradable and immortal until accident?

Alien Robot: As long as the fossil fuels hang in there anyway. When we run out of fossil fuels we run out of civilization.

This is why I laugh at the "drill baby drill" tards.
You would think they would want to empty the reserves of every other country first, and then lord our resources over them with screaming, glittery eagles and "fark yeah's!"
But, like I said, they are tards.

JonnyBGoode: Robinette Broadhead is not impressed.

/obscure?

Sure it is... ever hear the phrase "nothing is obscure on Fark?"
/Heechee FTW

Immortality?

I think "scientist" should be the word in quotes....

Fano: Teufelaffe: Quantum Apostrophe: How can people who swallow pseudo-scientific crap wholesale, reject the historical reality that we've already extended our lifespan, and that we should continue to do so?

So, your argument against seeking immortality is that we should instead work on extending our lifespan?

Um...yeah...that makes perfect sense.

That's why I said his earliest post in the thread indicated how trolls let you down; they don't even succeed when their dreams are hinted at. See any other farker that had watched QA might assume he would be excited about such a claim, or have something (positive/negative) to say about it. Instead the crude initial remark about fusion power and Martian Condos.

I'd feel sad for him if he weren't such a prick.

0Icky0: Alien Robot: As long as the fossil fuels hang in there anyway. When we run out of fossil fuels we run out of civilization.

This is why I laugh at the "drill baby drill" tards.
You would think they would want to empty the reserves of every other country first, and then lord our resources over them with screaming, glittery eagles and "fark yeah's!"
But, like I said, they are tards.

That would require foresight and the understanding that there is a limited supply of recoverable oil.

Cooper420: Immortal at 62 eh?

Well I hope they have age reversal! Unless I'm rich I won't pick up any 20 somethings.

If you are immortal and incapable of becoming rich you might just be stupid. Deposit 1 dollar and with compound interest at 5% annually you'd be a multimillionaire before your 360th birthday.

/Money would become mostly meaningless in a world with functional immortality.

Alien Robot: As long as the fossil fuels hang in there anyway. When we run out of fossil fuels we run out of civilization.

Scientists think they are going to have net-energy gain fusion ignition this year. The price per watt of solar and wind continues to drop, itself following a Moore's law-esque curve. Power won't be a problem.