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2012-08-01 06:29:44 AM
I actually HATE that I'm saying this, but this is one time I would actually like Wikileaks to somehow get a hold of and release something.

/ugh I hate myself.
 
2012-08-01 06:36:03 AM

starsrift: Aren't his tithes tax-deductible? Why would he undertithe?


If he is hiding income, he is undertithing. He is "cheating" the church. He tithes 10% of what he reports. The tax deduction isn't that great compared to not reporting 100 million.
 
2012-08-01 06:46:06 AM
Good move on Reid's part. Romney's caught between a rock and a hard place. If he's hiding his finances because he used a tax loophole for ten years, he'll either release the info or be a liar. And if it's worse than not paying taxes, if it's something illegal, he'll be indicted while he's campaigning for president.

The latter is what I think is going on. I think there's something in there that may lead to charges and Romney's hoping to ride out the election without releasing the info. In fact, what if his entire motivation to become president is merely to put himself in a position to quash any investigation into his finances? It certainly would explain his complete lack of enthusiasm or finesse on the campaign trail. All he's doing is showing up for work and trying to gain access to the shredder.
 
2012-08-01 06:48:49 AM

Nabb1: Headline reminded me of this:

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I can't blame them. I think if I were in the President's shoes, I would definitely want the election to be all about Romney's tax returns. Not that Romney's a real gem...


That's obvious. The last thing Obama wants to talk about is what he's accomplished over the last three and a half years.
 
2012-08-01 06:50:10 AM

Wendy's Chili: Mitt Romney kicked a nun in the teeth and then got a tax credit for shoe repair.


Mitt Romney sold poison milk to school kids! Tax credit!
 
2012-08-01 06:50:39 AM

shotglasss: The last thing Obama wants to talk about is what he's accomplished over the last three and a half years.


You might want to tell him that.
 
2012-08-01 06:52:15 AM

God-is-a-Taco: "His poor father must be so embarrassed about his son,"

Romney sucks and he would be terrible for the world, but that quote is a bit too much.


Agreed. His father wasn't poor.
 
2012-08-01 06:54:44 AM

thamike: Good move on Reid's part. Romney's caught between a rock and a hard place. If he's hiding his finances because he used a tax loophole for ten years, he'll either release the info or be a liar. And if it's worse than not paying taxes, if it's something illegal, he'll be indicted while he's campaigning for president.

The latter is what I think is going on. I think there's something in there that may lead to charges and Romney's hoping to ride out the election without releasing the info. In fact, what if his entire motivation to become president is merely to put himself in a position to quash any investigation into his finances? It certainly would explain his complete lack of enthusiasm or finesse on the campaign trail. All he's doing is showing up for work and trying to gain access to the shredder.


Romney is a very bad candidate and there is nobody else worth a damn out there for the Republicans to rally around. Or even simply decent people who want to find a decent leader. There isnt anyone. So four more years of Obama with no reelection to hold him back. He even might get a super majority in Congress again if Romney keeps messing up as badly as he has been he is going to take all the incumbent Republican senators down with him. This is going to be a sad time. Far far reaching expansions of government power. More and more debt. More and more waste and corruption. 10-20% unemployment. Another recession. Maybe a depression. Hard times are a coming boys and girls. The rich are already jumping ship like rats leaving a sinking ship. Liberalism will rule the halls of power for the next 4 years. Unopposed and unchecked.
 
2012-08-01 06:55:25 AM

God-is-a-Taco: "His poor father must be so embarrassed about his son,"

Romney sucks and he would be terrible for the world, but that quote is a bit too much.


Yeah, Reid should have gotten one of his aides to say it. Mitt would respect that.
 
2012-08-01 06:57:43 AM

walkingtall: This is going to be a sad time. Far far reaching expansions of government power. More and more debt. More and more waste and corruption. 10-20% unemployment. Another recession. Maybe a depression. Hard times are a coming boys and girls. The rich are already jumping ship like rats leaving a sinking ship. Liberalism will rule the halls of power for the next 4 years. Unopposed and unchecked


It won't be a sad time for me, or even you. You will have to try extra hard to find things to whinge about this time around, if you don't want to sound twice as ridiculous as you do now.
 
2012-08-01 07:04:59 AM
Nothing like a lie to get Romney's successful foreign relationship trip out of the news cycle.

Desperate times for Democrats are desperate, so it seems.
 
2012-08-01 07:06:24 AM

snowshovel: Nothing like a lie to get Romney's successful foreign relationship trip out of the news cycle.


Successful? (spittake)
 
2012-08-01 07:06:39 AM

EnviroDude: so the leader of the Senate that gets his money from insider trading and favors from his contributors, the guy that has his sons working as lobbiests, the guy that made millions in real estate from political favors is attacking the rich guy for adhering to a tax code that is written by the Senate the leader heads. and democrats are outraged at Romney?


Both sides are bad, so vote Rmoney?

You sound tired.
 
2012-08-01 07:06:48 AM

walkingtall: The rich are already jumping ship like rats leaving a sinking ship.


Wow, hook, line and sinker.

They saw you coming from across the street, didn't they?
 
2012-08-01 07:08:38 AM
I think everybody is being really limiting here. I think there are LOTS of shadiness in his tax returns.

Swiss bank account amnesty? - THERE
Obscenely low tax rates? - THERE
Zero taxes paid in some years? - THERE
Cayman and Bermuda tax shelters? - ALL THERE

If the campaign only had to deal with one of these things, the political fallout would probably be manageable. Combined, it tells a devastating story that plays perfectly into the Obama narrative of a wealthy sleaze screwing the rest of us.

Those returns will never see the light of day.
 
2012-08-01 07:10:21 AM

thamike: It won't be a sad time for me, or even you. You will have to try extra hard to find things to whinge about this time around, if you don't want to sound twice as ridiculous as you do now.


I hope you are right. I do love this country and if a liberal had good ideas for making things better more power to them. I am not against liberalism per se. I am diametrically opposed to progressive views but not real liberalism. The problem is that the people you farkers are supporting are not looking to try and make the country better. Simply better for them. So we might move from stratification due to economic forces to stratification due to political forces but that is about all that will change. Trade business corruption and graft for political corruption and graft. With us paying for it with oppressive taxes. And the rich STILL wont have to pay. They will simply leave the country. If there can be another outcome to our current course I sure as heck wish someone would come forward and make some suggestions. Liberal or conservative. I dont really care.
 
2012-08-01 07:17:40 AM
So Harry claimes that an unnamed "Bain Investor" goes says that Mitt hasn't paid taxes for ten years, as if he had any way of knowing that, and you people think THAT is more likely than Harry just wanting to make someone look bad?

/ This better damn well not be true. If this is true and it didnt come out in the primary, Republicans just suck.
 
2012-08-01 07:21:16 AM

ArmednHammered: Yeah, whatever.
Seven of the top ten richest butt clowns in Congress are Democrats.
How much in taxes have they avoided paying?
Link


tu quoque
 
2012-08-01 07:21:32 AM

Riothamus: I'm hoping that walkingtall is just a troll at this point. If not, wow.

We'd have to triple the Department of Education's funding immediately.



Oh good grief. I made a mistake. I didn't think my point through clearly. If I was perfect I wouldn't be arguing on fark at 7:30 in the morning. I certainly would not have lived the life I have lived. I do stupid things. I say stupid things in stupid ways. I have been known to be very very wrong about things. And since I am on a forum of perfect people I guess my mistakes stand out more glaringly then most but hey Im doing my best here.
 
2012-08-01 07:28:42 AM

MisterRonbo: walkingtall:

I never thought I would actually experience history being revised right in front of me. When they death threats and extreme hyperbole are thrown at me and I call them out on it everyone just shrugs and states everyone is just joking.

And yet, after being asked over and over and over, you cannot provide a single example.

Quite the persecution complex you've got going there. Do you take the things you post seriously, I only ask because then there would be one person who does.


Trolling Rule #7: If you get called out on your bullshiat, ignore the posts. The offending question didn't get asked if you don't acknowledge it's existence!
 
2012-08-01 07:35:09 AM
fark it, I'm willing to see Ron Paul at this point get the nod on the convention floor just to see this farking Arthur Miller tragedy play out to its better end, with Romney eating a bullet after being used up like fruit, crying "My God, why don't they like me?"
 
2012-08-01 07:40:47 AM

I sound fat: / This better damn well not be true. If this is true and it didn't come out in the primary, Republicans just suck.


Any GOP challenger to Mitt who even tried to bring up any of this stuff up during that derpy nom process would have immediately been labelled a OWS-loving RINO who had fallen for the left's "class warfare" rhetoric.

Search your heart and see the truth of this.

Besides that pack of pathetic asshats couldn't even get traction with the "Ya know guys, maybe Romney isn't the best person in the world to get to make the Repeal Obamacare" argument.

Diagonal: His red herring has been taken out back to the smokehouse as well.

/tasty


Mmmm, smoked fish flesh.

"Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for breakfast!"

I dearly hope that guy is just trolling and doesn't actually think like that.
 
2012-08-01 07:43:29 AM

quatchi: I dearly hope that guy is just trolling and doesn't actually think like that.


Think like what? I am curious what you think I believe that makes me so abhorrent. This should be entertaining. Please have at it. Let me have it with both barrels.
 
2012-08-01 07:46:55 AM
When Harry Reid's balls have dropped on a subject, it's a pretty safe bet there's a good chance he's right or knows he'll never be proven wrong. The guy simply doesn't take risks.

This is the second time in a week or so he's said something like this. Either he really knows this to be true, and he really knows Romney will never ever release his taxes so he can't be proven wrong.

Either way...I'm OK with this.
 
2012-08-01 07:54:20 AM

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.

Either way, it's a darn interesting "no-win" situation from a guy who's essentially been running for president for YEARS. What the heck was he thinking?


If I were president I could make a lot more money?
 
2012-08-01 07:56:48 AM
Here's what I love so much about this - it's the Birther argument thrown back in their faces.

Reid has made a claim he can't possible substantiate (Romney's taxes were born in Kenya, or something like that) and that anyone in Romney's inner circle will deny. That denial will produce a chorus of, "Well, you have the proof. You could shut us up forever about this. All you have to do is release the documents we're asking for..."

And then Romney will poop in his magic underwear.
 
2012-08-01 08:01:17 AM
i981.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-01 08:01:20 AM
We know Mitt was involved in illegal tax shelters as a director at Marriott. My guess is that he had to enter into a voluntary disclosure agreement in 2009 as a result of the 2009 release of information by the Swiss government, revealing that he owned Swiss bank account that was never reported in order to avoid potential prison time. Its just a guess, but the timing fits and it fits his personality as a known tax cheat.
 
2012-08-01 08:02:40 AM

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.

Either way, it's a darn interesting "no-win" situation from a guy who's essentially been running for president for YEARS. What the heck was he thinking?


Um, probably: Money comes FIRST. Everything else after.
 
2012-08-01 08:08:03 AM
He's hiding something that's worse for his campaign than taking the heat for not releasing them, at any rate...

I'll bet not paying any taxes is the least of it.
 
2012-08-01 08:08:18 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: So, Ron Paul at the convention, eh?



I'm holding out for the Newtster. I want to ehar more about his moonbase colonies. Maybe they can protect us from Marvin MArtian.
 
2012-08-01 08:08:22 AM

Quasar: A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.

"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying.

"He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look?

Well if that's not an airtight allegation I don't know what is.


Romney can easily refute it.
 
2012-08-01 08:10:39 AM

Hobodeluxe: walkingtall: Bypasssec: Absolutely correct! CHRIST as you refer to it is a convenient McGuffon for the Religious™ retards to rally around.

And so it begins......

actually he's right. the "Christ" of Republicans is nothing like the Christ in the Bible.

Jesus preached tolerance,humility,to help the poor,the sick,to pay your taxes and that worshiping mammon was a sin.

This idea of a prosperity gospel,of huge opulent temples in which to display your piety to be seen by man,to shun the poor,the sick and to judge others is an apostasy. And is exactly the type of false prophecy that the Bible warns against.


The greatest trick the devil ever pulled wasn't convincing the world that he didn't exist.

Oh no.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing Evangelical Christians that he was God.

www.thepaincomics.com
 
2012-08-01 08:18:44 AM

FlashHarry: this is what i don't get. and it's amazing he's gotten this far.


Clearly it's because he's a hard worker.
 
2012-08-01 08:19:24 AM

Sqrxz: Dinki: FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.

And why shouldn't he? The GOP knows that our main stream media have the attention span of a 3 year old with ADD. They know that by the time the debates come around this issue will be so old that it won't even come up.

Our media organizations are a pathetic joke.

Pathetic joke = publishing this comment from Reid that could have been completely fabricated and treating it like it could be more than halfway true. Yes, Romney hasn't released his taxes, and that raises suspicion, but have some discretion about what you publish. If John Boehner tomorrow says that he heard from a source in the White House that President Obama has cheated on his wife, should that be reported as NEWS? No. There must be a distinction between OPINIONS, which are fine to disseminate, and FALSE ("evidence not needed because obvious or we want to believe") "FACTS".

Informed opinions and facts are for news. False "facts" are for tabloids. MSM is no longer news but a tabloid with news on page 4.


It would absolutely be news if Boehner said he heard Obama cheated on his wife. If Boehner couldn't bring forward any evidence or witnesses, that accusation would be the end of his political career.
 
2012-08-01 08:23:08 AM

I sound fat: So Harry claimes that an unnamed "Bain Investor" goes says that Mitt hasn't paid taxes for ten years, as if he had any way of knowing that, and you people think THAT is more likely than Harry just wanting to make someone look bad?

/ This better damn well not be true. If this is true and it didnt come out in the primary, Republicans just suck.


There's an easy way for Romney to prove him wrong.
 
2012-08-01 08:23:35 AM
I am waiting for the commercial to come out with average citizens holding up their taxes and making the statement "I paid my share and I am not afraid to show it!" and then another "I paid my share and I am not afraid to show it!" and another "I paid my share and I am not afraid to show it!" with A scroll across the bottom of the screen. "why does Rmoney refuse to show his tax returns?

This message brought to you by every American tax payer.

Seems obvious enough, fits in a 30 second sound bite and should drive home the message?
 
2012-08-01 08:25:12 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: If you idiots are done arguing with the poor, persecuted little troll...


Hey, it was an entertaining way to pass those dreary early morning hours. :)
 
2012-08-01 08:25:38 AM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: If you idiots are done arguing with the poor, persecuted little troll...


Oh, come on, it's fun! How often can I honestly brand someone as a heretic?

It's great to see Harry freaking Reid hand Mr. Money Tit his internal organs using birther tactics.

Even more, he's using birther tactics to raise questions on an actual goddamned relevant issue. I think Mr. Reid might be learning something.
 
2012-08-01 08:32:08 AM

Riothamus: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: If you idiots are done arguing with the poor, persecuted little troll...

Oh, come on, it's fun! How often can I honestly brand someone as a heretic?

It's great to see Harry freaking Reid hand Mr. Money Tit his internal organs using birther tactics.

Even more, he's using birther tactics to raise questions on an actual goddamned relevant issue. I think Mr. Reid might be learning something.


I find these kinds of unverifiable attacks distasteful, but it would be easy enough to disprove. Since Romney seems unwilling to provide the truth, He leaves himself open to any attack that anyone wants to make.

Romney donated $1 million to Planned Parenthood three years ago.
Romney had over a billion dollars, but game most of it to the Michigan Neo Nazis.
Romney claimed a male spouse in 2010.

We could have all sorts of fun.
 
2012-08-01 08:39:21 AM

GameSprocket: Riothamus: Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: If you idiots are done arguing with the poor, persecuted little troll...

Oh, come on, it's fun! How often can I honestly brand someone as a heretic?

It's great to see Harry freaking Reid hand Mr. Money Tit his internal organs using birther tactics.

Even more, he's using birther tactics to raise questions on an actual goddamned relevant issue. I think Mr. Reid might be learning something.

I find these kinds of unverifiable attacks distasteful, but it would be easy enough to disprove. Since Romney seems unwilling to provide the truth, He leaves himself open to any attack that anyone wants to make.

Romney donated $1 million to Planned Parenthood three years ago.
Romney had over a billion dollars, but game most of it to the Michigan Neo Nazis.
Romney claimed a male spouse in 2010.

We could have all sorts of fun.


Oh please, those are all verifiable due to the tax returns. You can shut those down immediately.

Here's an example of an unverifiable true birther-style attack.


"I heard from a reliable source that leveraged buyouts involve a ritual known as 'sealing the deal' wherein the CEO of the dominant company performs oral sex on the CEO from the captured company as a means of equalizing humiliation. As CEO of Bain Capital, Mitt Romney may have 'sealed the deal' on dozens of occasions. So far he hasn't denied performing oral sex on other men...."
 
2012-08-01 08:43:58 AM

Byn: I doubt Reid believes it himself, but damn if it's not a really good way to force Mitt to prove that he's wrong.

Well played, Harry. Well played.


Well thats how liberals work.

They shout lies about republicans.

Sad ain't it.
 
2012-08-01 08:45:04 AM
The missing Olympic records, the computers in MA, Bain and not-Bain, and inadequate tax records.

Obama will just easily paint Romney as secretive and untrustworthy in October.
 
2012-08-01 08:46:03 AM
Harry Reid? Why would we listen to anything this corrupt child molester says?
 
2012-08-01 08:48:48 AM

brianbankerus: He'll never release them. No way. Whatever it is is bad. So bad it makes this unending beating seem merciful.

I wonder if his campaign staff follow online comments. You know, to understand the independents. I hope they do and I hope it depresses them appropriately.


Kinda like Obama's college records?
 
2012-08-01 08:48:49 AM
Romney took a $77,000 deduction on his 2010 tax return for the care and feeding of his dancing horse.

He somehow made his horse a business expense.

Does this mean I could have claimed all that money spent on ALPO for my dog?

teensleuth.com
 
2012-08-01 08:50:32 AM
www.irunoninsulin.com


Serious question: Is there really ANY chance Romney can run the entire campaign and not turn over more tax returns? I mean, even many REPUBLICANS seem to be asking for them.

If he simply folds his arms and says "No! You're not the boss of me!" does he really have ANY chance?

www.irunoninsulin.com
 
2012-08-01 08:51:09 AM

TIKIMAN87: Byn: I doubt Reid believes it himself, but damn if it's not a really good way to force Mitt to prove that he's wrong.

Well played, Harry. Well played.

Well thats how liberals work.

They shout lies about republicans.

Sad ain't it.


Only one way to prove it's a lie.
 
2012-08-01 08:52:41 AM

Dimensio: As you are an established serial liar, nothing that you say is credible.


Oh goody Dimensio is here. Good to see you buddy. . I have missed you so much. And like I always say I dont lie. I have lied and I will probably lie again. I am a sinner like anyone else but I dont as a rule lie. You will do what you always do. You will make outrageous claims agains me. Take what I write completely out of context and do your best to make me look like the fool that you believe me to be. And you will lie. Oh you will lie. And all the while you think if you scream and yell and call me names then you win the argument. So here we go. What have you got to say today?
 
2012-08-01 08:53:15 AM

Nome de Plume: brianbankerus: He'll never release them. No way. Whatever it is is bad. So bad it makes this unending beating seem merciful.

I wonder if his campaign staff follow online comments. You know, to understand the independents. I hope they do and I hope it depresses them appropriately.

Kinda like Obama's college records?


Or his birth certificate?
 
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