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2012-08-01 01:29:33 AM

themindiswatching: None of the Fark conservatives are ironically (considering a lot of them are birthers) defending Romney on this? You guys are slipping.


Politics tab threads are usually never published this late in the evening. The GOP shills know the schedule and come swarming in only when they expect articles to be published. It's not like their handlers are going to pay them for 24/7 trolling after all, they're business-minded people concerned about the bottom line, and off-hours 'grassroots' trolling isn't financially viable to them.
 
2012-08-01 01:32:17 AM

kronicfeld: Hearsay within hearsay. Come on.


Come on yourself. Hearsay and "gut feeling" was more than enough for you assholes to invade Iraq. Now suddenly it's not good enough?
 
2012-08-01 01:36:37 AM
I want it to be true, but it probably isn't true.
 
2012-08-01 01:37:40 AM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: propasaurus: Because Americans want someone who will do the bare minimum and no more.

I'm counting your pieces of flair, and campaign buttons...

You DO want to express yourself, don't you?


I promise to rid the world of flair....

cdn.buzznet.com
 
2012-08-01 01:38:13 AM
"His poor father must be so embarrassed about his son,"

Romney sucks and he would be terrible for the world, but that quote is a bit too much.
 
2012-08-01 01:42:31 AM

ArmednHammered: Yeah, whatever.


Both siedz aer bad so voet rMoney!
 
2012-08-01 01:43:40 AM

ArmednHammered: Yeah, whatever.
Seven of the top ten richest butt clowns in Congress are Democrats.
How much in taxes have they avoided paying?
Link


kenwheaton.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-08-01 01:43:57 AM

The Larch: I want it to be true, but it probably isn't true.


Yeah. Reid is just putting some heat on him. It's probably something embarrassing in his returns, but I don't think Mitt would run for president if he had paid no taxes.
 
2012-08-01 01:47:08 AM

God-is-a-Taco: "His poor father must be so embarrassed about his son,"

Romney sucks and he would be terrible for the world, but that quote is a bit too much.



Harry Reid suddenly develops a spine.
 
2012-08-01 01:47:11 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: The Larch: I want it to be true, but it probably isn't true.

Yeah. Reid is just putting some heat on him. It's probably something embarrassing in his returns, but I don't think Mitt would run for president if he had paid no taxes.


Sure he would. Especially if he thought he could get by without anyone knowing it (which he clearly thinks he can).
 
2012-08-01 01:50:28 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: The Larch: I want it to be true, but it probably isn't true.

Yeah. Reid is just putting some heat on him. It's probably something embarrassing in his returns, but I don't think Mitt would run for president if he had paid no taxes.


I can't recall a single instance of Harry Reid bluffing or exaggerating . Harry Reid has spent decades earning a reputation for calm understatement.
 
2012-08-01 01:52:18 AM
You know you're a biatch if Harry Reid can slap you around.
 
2012-08-01 01:53:40 AM

Nadie_AZ: But I'll ask: if he paid no taxes, why didn't he create far more jobs than anybody else?


He did. In China and India.
 
2012-08-01 01:53:40 AM

Ambivalence: Sure he would. Especially if he thought he could get by without anyone knowing it (which he clearly thinks he can).



New precedents were set by Palin in 2008 regarding how many secrets a politician running for major office can keep. Palin never gave a single open press conference during her campaign. She never released her medical records. And she got away with it, and successfully turned Republican voters against the news media.

So Rmoney's going to play that card, ignoring the American press on his little tour of the UK and Israel, and openly telling them to go to hell in Poland today. He'll try to avoid taking clear positions on major issues, and he'll see how much of his business career he can keep a secret, while simultaneously touting his business experience as a reason we should vote for him.

I think what Reid did today was brilliant. Want to keep your financial dealings a secret from the American people? We'll just speculate wildly about what's in them, then.
 
2012-08-01 01:55:00 AM

Loucifer: You know you're a biatch if Harry Reid can slap you around.


doesn't even have to slap, just asking questions...
 
2012-08-01 02:04:01 AM
Wait, so is it he didn't pay taxes because all his income was tax sheltered(stock and whatnot) or he didn't pay taxes because he was protesting income tax being illegal? Steve Jobs $1 salary wasn't taxed either, but all those awesome options can have loans taken against them for more or less permanent income tax free.
 
2012-08-01 02:06:07 AM

Loucifer: You know you're a biatch if Harry Reid can slap you around.


From Wikipedia:

Reid's boyhood home had no indoor toilet, hot water or telephone. Searchlight had no high school, so Reid boarded with relatives 40 miles away in Henderson, Nevada, to attend Basic High School[1] where he played football, and was an amateur boxer
 
2012-08-01 02:10:51 AM

Loucifer: You know you're a biatch if Harry Reid can slap you around.


Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

Can you farking imagine what the right-wingers would be doing if the situation was reversed and Obama was refusing to disclose his tax returns?

It would be nuclear powered DERP to the power of infinity all day long until he released them.

Looking at the polls I'd say Romney has gotten off pretty light so far.
 
2012-08-01 02:13:18 AM

acefox1: Loucifer: You know you're a biatch if Harry Reid can slap you around.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

Can you farking imagine what the right-wingers would be doing if the situation was reversed and Obama was refusing to disclose his tax returns?

It would be nuclear powered DERP to the power of infinity all day long until he released them.

Looking at the polls I'd say Romney has gotten off pretty light so far.


What, you mean Conservatives have a double-standard when it comes to their own candidates? Surely you jest?
 
2012-08-01 02:14:00 AM
Mitt Romney covered the expenses incurred with disposal of the body of the girl Glenn Beck may have raped and murdered in 1990. We know this because he deducted them on page 147 of his 1991 tax returns.
 
2012-08-01 02:23:54 AM

NewportBarGuy: Mitt Romney covered the expenses incurred with disposal of the body of the girl Glenn Beck may have raped and murdered in 1990. We know this because he deducted them on page 147 of his 1991 tax returns.


he did it retroactively...
 
2012-08-01 02:25:05 AM

Notabunny: Nadie_AZ: But I'll ask: if he paid no taxes, why didn't he create far more jobs than anybody else?

He did. In China and India.


I noticed he paid taxes to those two countries as well.
 
2012-08-01 02:36:46 AM

FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.


It's hearsay bullshiat from Reid, but I really can't fathom what Romney is doing.

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the DNC already has copies of them, probably from a disgruntled member of McCain's VP vetting squad.
 
2012-08-01 02:38:53 AM

Ambivalence: FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.

Either way, it's a darn interesting "no-win" situation from a guy who's essentially been running for president for YEARS. What the heck was he thinking?


GOPers went apeshiat back in 2009 when Obama nominated Geithner who had some tax issues. It will be fun to see how they spin their way out of Mitt not paying taxes for 10 years.
 
2012-08-01 02:41:03 AM

Bucky Katt: Ambivalence: FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.

Either way, it's a darn interesting "no-win" situation from a guy who's essentially been running for president for YEARS. What the heck was he thinking?

GOPers went apeshiat back in 2009 when Obama nominated Geithner who had some tax issues. It will be fun to see how they spin their way out of Mitt not paying taxes for 10 years.


Not paying taxes (D): bad
Not paying taxes (R): good
 
2012-08-01 02:41:25 AM

Nadie_AZ: Bain Investor Told Me That Mitt Romney 'Didn't Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years'

If this is true, Romney is beyond toast when he finally does release his Tax Returns. Well, for everyone but Team GOP. They'll love him more.

But I'll ask: if he paid no taxes, why didn't he create far more jobs than anybody else?


He did. In China.
 
2012-08-01 02:45:17 AM

FlashHarry: Ambivalence: FlashHarry: whatever it is, clearly mittens thinks the political fallout for not releasing his returns is preferable to the fallout that would come from releasing them.

Either way, it's a darn interesting "no-win" situation from a guy who's essentially been running for president for YEARS. What the heck was he thinking?

this is what i don't get. and it's amazing he's gotten this far.

but he did release them to the mccain campaign when they were vetting him for veep - and they picked palin. that should tell you everything you need to know.


To be fair, all it tells me is that Palin looks better in a skirt than Romney.
 
2012-08-01 02:50:13 AM

Bladel: Considering how much mileage they are getting out of the "you didn't build that" lie, the Dems might as well go ahead and run with this.

And if it isn't true, well Mitt can always release his taxes to prove them wrong....


Only as long as he releases his long form tax returns.
 
2012-08-01 03:02:51 AM

Loucifer: Asa Phelps: Three Crooked SquirrelsPersonally, I am disgusted by all the sleeze in politics, both sides, which is why I favor public funding of elections. But on the topic of Romney's returns, I don't think he did anything illegal. At least I doubt he did. There is the possibility of 2009 amnesty. But if that isn't in there, I think the reason he is hiding the returns is because he paid ridiculously low rates in certain years and they are afraid to have a discussion about tax fairness. They are afraid of ads saying "in 2008, Mitt Romney was worth a quarter of a billion dollars and paid a 2.4% tax rate. What did you pay in 2008?"

I am disgusted by all the sleeze in big business. Which is why i favor disclosure by Romney.


You're making a pretty bold statement here.


Very good! I LOL'd at a font joke!
 
2012-08-01 03:25:51 AM

JerseyTim: I'm also sticking with the "really, really undertithed" theory.


I will still stick with the "took advantage of amnesty for illegal offshore accounts".
 
2012-08-01 03:31:20 AM

Ambivalence: He still probably thinks people won't care enough for it to matter. and maybe for some that's true, but it is still several months until election and this kind of thing can erode his support. How can people trust a man who keeps these kinds of secrets?


Actually, if there is nothing wrong with his taxes, it's a massive win to keep the Democrats focused on them, and then release them in mid-October when ... SURPRISE ... there is no there there.

But I genuinely believe that he simply doesn't want to stoke a conversation about how little the rich pay "as required by law" when still making a stupendously big income. Most people make income by selling their labor. This income is taxed at a certain rate, depending on the rate of pay they get (those who make more, pay a higher percentage)

But what if you don't work? What if you live off the salted away proceeds of past years? What if you lend your money to others and get a return on it? Should you pay less? For doing less work and making more money? Especially if they have the ability to induce the kind of extreme risk-taking that killed the economy ... in order that they might NOT work and still enjoy a high quality of life?
 
2012-08-01 03:37:27 AM

Sabyen91: JerseyTim: I'm also sticking with the "really, really undertithed" theory.

I will still stick with the "took advantage of amnesty for illegal offshore accounts".


I am sticking with "all of the above".
 
2012-08-01 03:38:55 AM

downpaymentblues: Sabyen91: JerseyTim: I'm also sticking with the "really, really undertithed" theory.

I will still stick with the "took advantage of amnesty for illegal offshore accounts".

I am sticking with "all of the above".


Yeah, you are probably right.
 
2012-08-01 03:40:54 AM

rubi_con_man: Actually, if there is nothing wrong with his taxes, it's a massive win to keep the Democrats focused on them, and then release them in mid-October when ... SURPRISE ... there is no there there.



Rmoney gave away his motivation for not releasing his returns when he talked about his fear that the Democrats would twist and distort their contents for political gain. There is definitely some red meat in there. I also think that since he was getting a savage beat-down over Bain two weeks ago, releasing his returns then would have been like dumping jet fuel onto the fire.

What Reid did today was great. Hold Rmoney's feet to the fire if he wants to keep things from the American people.
 
2012-08-01 03:44:11 AM

Sabyen91: JerseyTim: I'm also sticking with the "really, really undertithed" theory.

I will still stick with the "took advantage of amnesty for illegal offshore accounts".


Both of THESE.

I understand that the GOP have given Mitt "his turn" here and don't really expect him to win but even with that understood they couldn't have picked a worse candidate to oppose Obama on the issues of both taxes and healthcare.

WTF were they thinking?

/Yeah, it's the down ticket races being bought with post CU cash that will be the real story this election.
 
2012-08-01 03:44:29 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: Yeah. Reid is just putting some heat on him. It's probably something embarrassing in his returns, but I don't think Mitt would run for president if he had paid no taxes.


See, the problem here is that you are too attached to reality. In reality, a guy not paying his taxes would be a bad candidate for president and a man like that would have the common sense not to run.

But these are Republicans we're talking about.
 
2012-08-01 03:58:52 AM

Lsherm: Small point of correction, but Obama didn't pay 30%, either. I haven't gone through all of his tax returns, but he's still paying less than the average American. However, he's almost certainly paying more than Romney.


Yeah, that's a pretty safe bet:

i1240.photobucket.com

Source
 
2012-08-01 04:07:10 AM

rubi_con_man: Ambivalence: He still probably thinks people won't care enough for it to matter. and maybe for some that's true, but it is still several months until election and this kind of thing can erode his support. How can people trust a man who keeps these kinds of secrets?

Actually, if there is nothing wrong with his taxes, it's a massive win to keep the Democrats focused on them, and then release them in mid-October when ... SURPRISE ... there is no there there.


That's not how American's work though is it? I don't remember the %s, but a depressing number of Americans still think that Obama's a Muslim, Saddam caused 9/11 or that there was WMD in Iraq. Admittedly those people are Romney's base, but there's got to be some dipshiat undecided voters that Romney would be more able to court if they hadn't spent 3 months thinking he's paid zero taxes or something.
 
2012-08-01 04:23:10 AM

Harry_Seldon: Is it possible for private citizen Romney to be impeached before the election?


Impeaching is for people who have paid taxes.

i172.photobucket.com
 
2012-08-01 04:31:55 AM

ArmednHammered: Yeah, whatever.
Seven of the top ten richest butt clowns in Congress are Democrats.
How much in taxes have they avoided paying?
Link


What information do you have to confirm that Romney is avoiding to pay taxes?
 
2012-08-01 04:35:01 AM

brianbankerus: He'll never release them. No way. Whatever it is is bad. So bad it makes this unending beating seem merciful.

I wonder if his campaign staff follow online comments. You know, to understand the independents. I hope they do and I hope it depresses them appropriately.


I hope they do (if they do their jobs they do)

And I hope while doing their jobs they realize they are selling this nation down the river. (a turn of phrase as appropriate to the 99% now as it ever was to anyone)

Hopefully the patriotic among them will jump ship and while doing so throw their morsels of incriminating truth to us like so many Palin staffers.
 
2012-08-01 05:04:24 AM
Ok.....out with it...which one of you worthless farkers soid their soul to the devil to get Mitt Romney as the Republican challenger to Saint Obama? Good dang grief this guy is just getting stinkier and stinkier with every passing day.
 
2012-08-01 05:21:57 AM

Sabyen91: downpaymentblues: Sabyen91: JerseyTim: I'm also sticking with the "really, really undertithed" theory.

I will still stick with the "took advantage of amnesty for illegal offshore accounts".

I am sticking with "all of the above".

Yeah, you are probably right.


Aren't his tithes tax-deductible? Why would he undertithe?
 
2012-08-01 05:31:38 AM

sillydragon: walkingtall: Ok.....out with it...which one of you worthless farkers soid their soul to the devil to get Mitt Romney as the Republican challenger to Saint Obama? Good dang grief this guy is just getting stinkier and stinkier with every passing day.

Republicans are like that sometimes. Democrats too sometimes, though they seem to be the less outright evil of the two.

Did you ever manage to find those posts on Fark where you received death threats like you claimed? I'm curious to see whether you're full of shiat or not.


I'm sure he just forgot what alt(s) received the death threats. Makes everything a bit awkward.
 
2012-08-01 05:38:00 AM

Lsherm: czei: Sure, Mitt can release his tax returns, but then how do we know that they're *really* his tax returns? They could be easily faked, so maybe we should get some county Sheriff to look 'em over just to make sure.

Seriously, though, Romney doesn't need to release them, all it'll take is a question at the debates that brings up the subject, where either the moderator flat out asks each candidate how much they paid in taxes, or Obama says "I've paid 30% in taxes for decades", how about you?

Small point of correction, but Obama didn't pay 30%, either. I haven't gone through all of his tax returns, but he's still paying less than the average American. However, he's almost certainly paying more than Romney.


You are right, but it is important to note that Romney doesn't see a problem with this. Obama does, as do most people.
 
2012-08-01 05:54:54 AM

GWSuperfan: "When a man assumes public office he should consider himself public property"

~Thomas Jefferson


If anyone understood how to treat a man as property, it was Jefferson.

/14 year old girls, too
// the 5 children he fathered by that teenage slave, too
 
2012-08-01 06:00:17 AM

walkingtall: sillydragon: Great, well...examples? And no, assholes exist everywhere, even in my precious liberal world. And most of those don't sound like death threats, they just sound like someone thinks you should die

When someone writes and I quote "I cannot WAIT to throw you to the lions so you will know what real persectution is" or "You and your children and everyone that believes as you do are the cause of the world being crap and we should kill all of you to remove your beliefs from humanity" is both telling me I need to die as you say and a veiled threat that if I dont get in line someday the day will come when you will be killed. That is a threat. Im not sure what you would call it but you seem to want to use semantics to lessen what has been said to me. I dont care what you want to call it, it is wrong.


Those aren't actual death threats.

A death threat is something like "Mr. Johnson, I will kill you!"

You're thinking more along these lines...

farm2.staticflickr.com

And being a religious conservative is nothing to be proud of. It's practically a guarantee that you'll find yourself on the wrong side of history.

Learn the Beatitudes. Live them. There is nothing conservative about what the living Christ actually preached.
 
2012-08-01 06:13:42 AM

EnviroDude: so the leader of the Senate that gets his money from insider trading and favors from his contributors, the guy that has his sons working as lobbiests, the guy that made millions in real estate from political favors is attacking the rich guy for adhering to a tax code that is written by the Senate the leader heads. and democrats are outraged at Romney?


As someone that has never voted for a Republican/neocon/teabagger I can't believe I'm saying this, but I completely agree with you. I blame the system that allows the wealthy to cheat their country.
 
2012-08-01 06:15:02 AM

downpaymentblues: Loucifer: You know you're a biatch if Harry Reid can slap you around.

From Wikipedia:

Reid...was an amateur boxer


He's a big fan of MMA too, though partly because the UFC brings big $$$ to Vegas on the regular.

/Sanction it, NY!
//fark the culinary worker's union!!
 
2012-08-01 06:15:48 AM

kapaso: EnviroDude: so the leader of the Senate that gets his money from insider trading and favors from his contributors, the guy that has his sons working as lobbiests, the guy that made millions in real estate from political favors is attacking the rich guy for adhering to a tax code that is written by the Senate the leader heads. and democrats are outraged at Romney?

We don't know if Romney adhered to the tax code or not. I'm assuming not, otherwise he wouldn't be hiding his returns now would he?


Well, we do know Romney didn't pay anything in 2009. Republicans have told him to release another year or two and be done with it, to which he responded that doing so would sink his campaign.
 
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