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2012-07-31 04:53:19 PM
Don't forget he was a suspect in the fatal shooting of a 19-year-old woman three days earlier....and he was on parole for trying to pimp a 14-year-old girl.
 
2012-07-31 04:57:22 PM
...how do you accidentally shoot yourself in the neck?
 
2012-07-31 04:57:45 PM
Momma don't let your babies grow up to be dumbass criminals.
 
2012-07-31 05:01:22 PM
Harding was trying to fire at the officers with a pistol and apparently shot himself in the neck on July 16, 2011

[you'redoingitwrong.jpg]

/It was a Plaxident!!
 
2012-07-31 05:23:12 PM

Bonkthat_Again: Don't forget he was a suspect in the fatal shooting of a 19-year-old woman three days earlier....and he was on parole for trying to pimp a 14-year-old girl.


He was suspect in several crimes in Seattle and fled. 19 and already a predatorial POS and an epic f*ck up?
This incident can be seen as a blessing to society; however, the mother's attitude is predictable. The boy Darwin'd himself. STFU and go get your tubes tied.
 
2012-07-31 05:29:00 PM
I couldn't find a Darwin animated gif, so here's a Darwin (from Gumball) animated gif.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-07-31 05:43:10 PM

AbbeySomeone: Bonkthat_Again: Don't forget he was a suspect in the fatal shooting of a 19-year-old woman three days earlier....and he was on parole for trying to pimp a 14-year-old girl.

He was suspect in several crimes in Seattle and fled. 19 and already a predatorial POS and an epic f*ck up?
This incident can be seen as a blessing to society; however, the mother's attitude is predictable. The boy Darwin'd himself. STFU and go get your tubes tied.


I can almost accept the mother. This is what I don't get:

Some Bayview residents reacted angrily to Harding's shooting, calling it an example of police brutality. Earlier this month, protesters marking the first anniversary of his slaying blocked two Muni lines for less than an hour.

I'm surprised someone gave up the cell phone footage of the gun being stolen. Sounds like a bit of the old "snitches get stitches" mentality in that neighborhood.
 
2012-07-31 05:46:39 PM
I fail to see how this is a loss for anyone at all.
 
2012-07-31 05:52:18 PM

Dr.Knockboots: I fail to see how this is a loss for anyone at all.


Well, someone lost their .380, that's the saddest part of the article.
 
2012-07-31 06:14:44 PM

what_now: ...how do you accidentally shoot yourself in the neck?


You know, like, there's a mosquito biting your neck and you sort of forget that you have a gun in your hand.
 
2012-07-31 06:20:36 PM

Diogenes: AbbeySomeone: Bonkthat_Again: Don't forget he was a suspect in the fatal shooting of a 19-year-old woman three days earlier....and he was on parole for trying to pimp a 14-year-old girl.

He was suspect in several crimes in Seattle and fled. 19 and already a predatorial POS and an epic f*ck up?
This incident can be seen as a blessing to society; however, the mother's attitude is predictable. The boy Darwin'd himself. STFU and go get your tubes tied.

I can almost accept the mother. This is what I don't get:

Some Bayview residents reacted angrily to Harding's shooting, calling it an example of police brutality. Earlier this month, protesters marking the first anniversary of his slaying blocked two Muni lines for less than an hour.

I'm surprised someone gave up the cell phone footage of the gun being stolen. Sounds like a bit of the old "snitches get stitches" mentality in that neighborhood.


I'm sure the police weren't saints in any of this but the kid was a POS. He brought attention to himself for not paying his transit fare. 2 or 3 bucks? He's hardcore.
 
2012-07-31 07:22:23 PM

what_now: ...how do you accidentally shoot yourself in the neck?


Maybe he decided to turn over a new leaf by dedicating himself to good works for the betterment of society and his first one was blowing his own goddamn brains out?
 
2012-07-31 07:26:50 PM
Harding's mother Denika Chatman said police have some responsibility for her son's death and that officers failed to give him immediate medical care. Instead, they "left him writhing in pain with blood gushing out of his neck," the suit said.

No, lady. He left himself writhing in pain with blood gushing out of his neck. The police just happened to be there. If he hadn't been shooting at them and running away, he'd be alive today.
 
2012-07-31 07:42:28 PM

AbbeySomeone: I'm sure the police weren't saints in any of this but the kid was a POS. He brought attention to himself for not paying his transit fare. 2 or 3 bucks? He's hardcore.


Actually, getting cops after you over a couple of bucks when you know you're in trouble with the law is pretty damned dumb. But, on his course, it's definitely on par.

It wouldn't surprise me if his mother has played a certain card in talking about her poor, poor son's death.
 
2012-07-31 08:29:36 PM
Good -- another piece of trash removed from society and the gene pool.

Mom should be given one chance to sit down, shut up and accept the fact her son was a murdering criminal. If she refuses... throw her ass in jail for wasting the (already) overburdened court's time.
 
2012-07-31 08:30:13 PM
Oh ffs. Way to try to cash in on your son's stupidity. He shot himself, and if blood was GUSHING out of his neck...he was farked within a minute or two. A farking team of Dr's couldn't have saved him. And fark him anyway, he was a piece of shiat.
 
2012-07-31 08:31:15 PM

AbbeySomeone: Bonkthat_Again: Don't forget he was a suspect in the fatal shooting of a 19-year-old woman three days earlier....and he was on parole for trying to pimp a 14-year-old girl.

He was suspect in several crimes in Seattle and fled. 19 and already a predatorial POS and an epic f*ck up?
This incident can be seen as a blessing to society; however, the mother's attitude is predictable. The boy Darwin'd himself. STFU and go get your tubes tied.


With that behavior and attitude it isn't unreasonable to think he has a kid somewhere, he may have beat darwin.
 
2012-07-31 08:33:15 PM

FriarReb98: AbbeySomeone: I'm sure the police weren't saints in any of this but the kid was a POS. He brought attention to himself for not paying his transit fare. 2 or 3 bucks? He's hardcore.

Actually, getting cops after you over a couple of bucks when you know you're in trouble with the law is pretty damned dumb. But, on his course, it's definitely on par.

It wouldn't surprise me if his mother has played a certain card in talking about her poor, poor son's death.


I think the fact that it's a civil rights lawsuit makes that part pretty obvious.
 
2012-07-31 08:34:04 PM

what_now: ...how do you accidentally shoot yourself in the neck?


Heh...ever see the Clooney flick, Out of Sight?

First thing I though of...indoors, on a staircase, though.
 
2012-07-31 08:34:39 PM
THOUGHT of, that is...sigh.
 
2012-07-31 08:35:02 PM
Reading the comments on SFGate stories of this type are usually enough to make me throw up in my mouth a little. Apologist central.

B-b-b-b-b-but those murdering pigs should never shoot a human being, under any circumstances! So what if he was trying to shoot them first - he was 17 years old! Just a child!!! Why couldn't they, like, talk to him instead?!
 
2012-07-31 08:35:07 PM
The kid sounds like quite the moron.
Good to know where he got those quality genes. O_o
 
2012-07-31 08:35:16 PM
DRFA... black?
 
2012-07-31 08:36:41 PM
Sometimes you're your own worst enemy.
Hey man, nice shot
 
2012-07-31 08:37:22 PM
I'm guessing, of course: Jewish or Asian, or white? Silly stereotypes, they get confusing when they overlap.
 
2012-07-31 08:39:03 PM
what about the civil rights of the little girl?

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2012-07-31 08:40:03 PM
Self-shooting trifecta in play.
 
2012-07-31 08:41:36 PM
Yes, it's probably good that he died; he sounds like the world's biggest scumbag. Having said that, the mother may still be right. If the officers made no effort to provide medical aid, that may be understandable, but it is not acceptable. When I was in Iraq we were required to give aid to wounded enemies when circumstances permitted, after the firefight was over, and if we chose not to we could expect consequences. Are police in American cities dealing with American citizens to be held to a lower standard than soldiers in a war zone dealing with well-armed fanatics? If this is acceptable to us we deserve what we get. Maybe that isn't what happened here, maybe they did render aid, but if you dismiss the mother's claim just because her son was an epic shiatbag you are wrong and you should feel bad.

If you think the police would have behaved differently if the dead man was totally innocent and they just screwed up you don't understand human nature. In their minds the people they shoot always deserve it. They may have doubts later on-they probably won't, but they might- but immediately after the fact they will convince themselves that everything they did was necessary. They will have to in order to keep on going without having some kind of emotional breakdown.
 
2012-07-31 08:41:58 PM
Well, let's see here:

The son was only 19 and already a parolee, no outrage from the community there. He was in jail in the first place for pimping out a 14 year old girl, no outrage from the community there. He was a suspect in the murder of another woman in Seattle, no outrage from the community there. He put himself on the police radar by refusing to pay a simple toll fee, no outrage from the community there. He engaged in a running gun-battle with the police in an area I'm all but certain wasn't completely devoid of human life other than the criminal and the cops, so pedestrians and bystanders could have easily gotten caught in HIS HAIL OF GUNFIRE, no outrage from the community there. Oh, and he shot himself in the neck, leaving the bullet lodged in his brain. POLICE BRUASTALITY WHARGHARBL SHUT DOWN EVEYRHTING ATTICUS ATTICA ARTICA!!!!

No life of value was lost there. Mother should be countersued into abject poverty, stripped of her ovaries, and forced to serve the 14 year old girl her precious son was renting out like a motel room.
 
2012-07-31 08:43:13 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: I'm guessing, of course: Jewish or Asian, or white? Silly stereotypes, they get confusing when they overlap.


Not white or Asian because he would have shot everyone in a enclosed space.
 
2012-07-31 08:43:38 PM

RockChalkH1N1: DRFA... black?


Don't know yet. The riots haven't started yet.
 
2012-07-31 08:44:10 PM
https://www.facebook.com/#!/denika.chatman

her facebook

what a tragedy
a POS who had already killed someone and had pimped out a 14 year old
 
2012-07-31 08:46:17 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: I'm guessing, of course: Jewish or Asian, or white? Silly stereotypes, they get confusing when they overlap.


The mothers name is Denika, kinda sorts it out.
 
2012-07-31 08:46:22 PM
Guess the apple didn't rot far from the tree in this case. Mom's attitude sure explains why this one turned out to be a real winner.
 
2012-07-31 08:46:26 PM
Harding was a suspect in Seattle in the fatal shooting of a 19-year-old woman three days earlier. He was on parole for trying to pimp a 14-year-old girl in that city.

Some Bayview residents reacted angrily to Harding's shooting, calling it an example of police brutality. Earlier this month, protesters marking the first anniversary of his slaying blocked two Muni lines for less than an hour.


I would be in favor of the police just gunning down the protestors in this case.
 
2012-07-31 08:46:32 PM
I generally think police should show more restraint than they often seem to in tense situations, but once you are actively trying to kill a police officer you're on your own.
 
2012-07-31 08:48:01 PM

malaktaus: the mother may still be right.


The kid lodged a .38 in his own brain running from cops (not alone either as someone stole his piece) after trying to pimp out an underage girl.

There's so much going on there that it would be possible suicide for the cops to stop and render aid. I mean THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERP ON THE SCENE.

Not only that, but the bullet was not a police bullet. The cops DID NOT SHOOT HIM FATALLY. He did that himself and it's probably the best thing he ever did for society.
 
2012-07-31 08:48:07 PM
I'm sure if her son was a better shot and took out a cop, she'd have no trouble paying millions in damages to his family.

You're son was a farkup. Glad he offed himself before he ruined another life.
 
2012-07-31 08:48:27 PM

malaktaus: Yes, it's probably good that he died; he sounds like the world's biggest scumbag. Having said that, the mother may still be right. If the officers made no effort to provide medical aid, that may be understandable, but it is not acceptable.


Unfortunately, no where in the article does it state that the officers made no effort to provide medical aid. It's what she's accusing them of, but it certainly hasn't been proven, and I seriously doubt it's true. She just wants money for having a stupid farking son. Whether my assumption is right or wrong, all the evidence will be produced in court, and I have no doubt it will consist of recorded dispatch audio of officers on the scene requesting medical aid for a self-inflicted gunshot wound. It'll also probably involve testimony from the paramedics on the scene. Now, if there was proof that they actively prevented this asshole from getting medical aid, then yes, the police are in the wrong, but you can't expect a police officer to pull a miracle out of his ass and magically save your life after you do something as stupid as shoot yourself in the neck/head.
 
2012-07-31 08:50:06 PM
aw, just another aspiring rapper or football player
 
2012-07-31 08:52:48 PM
I assume that I don't even really need to ask, but just in case, were the "Victim" and his Momma Attractive and Successful???
 
2012-07-31 08:53:37 PM

LSUMJ: https://www.facebook.com/#!/denika.chatman

her facebook

what a tragedy
a POS who had already killed someone and had pimped out a 14 year old


His brother looks like a real winner too. I hope this woman didn't have any other kids.
 
2012-07-31 08:54:57 PM
I wish all the people that make everything about race would up and die so we can focus on the true root of humanity's problem: MOTHERFARKING STUPIDITY.
 
2012-07-31 08:55:07 PM

LSUMJ: https://www.facebook.com/#!/denika.chatman

her facebook

what a tragedy
a POS who had already killed someone and had pimped out a 14 year old


Don't forget to visit the RIP Kenneth Harding JR fan page she links.
 
2012-07-31 08:55:25 PM
I hate the police just as much as the next justice and freedom loving person, and I've been pretty vocal on Fark about my opinions on what should be done with them (kill anything with a badge and light their homes on fire), but even I find this lawlsuit utterly farking retarded.
 
2012-07-31 08:57:59 PM

malaktaus: Are police in American cities dealing with American citizens to be held to a lower standard than soldiers in a war zone dealing with well-armed fanatics.


Yes. That's why cops can use hollow points, but soldiers can't.
 
2012-07-31 08:59:22 PM

devildog123: LSUMJ: https://www.facebook.com/#!/denika.chatman

her facebook

what a tragedy
a POS who had already killed someone and had pimped out a 14 year old

His brother looks like a real winner too. I hope this woman didn't have any other kids.


How terrible would it be if some vigilante removed this family from the face of the Earth? I mean, it'd be terrible. The entire world would feel that loss...
 
2012-07-31 08:59:47 PM

LSUMJ: https://www.facebook.com/#!/denika.chatman

her facebook

what a tragedy
a POS who had already killed someone and had pimped out a 14 year old


Damn I want to troll her page so bad but I know some of my friends will go mad. The lady is bible thumper at that.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-31 09:01:00 PM

Diogenes: I can almost accept the mother. This is what I don't get:

Some Bayview residents reacted angrily to Harding's shooting


Heh - par for the course in the Bayview. Durr, I wasn't anywhere nearby when this happened, but this yelling stranger just told me that it's the police fault, so BRUTALITY OMG!!1!


Diogenes: I'm surprised someone gave up the cell phone footage of the gun being stolen. Sounds like a bit of the old "snitches get stitches" mentality in that neighborhood.


Actually, I was too. I overhear the word "snitch" all, the, time on the T Third.

They almost got away with it, too - an entire crowd of bystanders managed to "forget" seeing someone run over to the gun and disappear with it.
 
2012-07-31 09:03:51 PM

RockChalkH1N1: DRFA... black?


If you've never read the Comical, then just know that it's normal for the editors to remove all references to race, especially if it's an oppressed minority.
 
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