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(ABC News)   Will President Obama be upstaged at the Democratic Convention by the first black president?   (abcnews.go.com ) divider line
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2012-07-31 04:54:38 PM  
No? I think they'll both give good speeches and energize the base, and everyone will go home.
 
2012-07-31 04:55:52 PM  
Unless the RNC is nothing but a purge of tea party and bilbe pounder platforms, it won't matter what the DNC does.....landslide anti-GOP.
 
2012-07-31 04:56:30 PM  

LasersHurt: No? I think they'll both give good speeches and energize the base, and everyone will go home.


done in one.

in 2004, obama upstaged kerry. (then again, a piece of wilted lettuce could upstage kerry.) it's unlikely he'll be upstaged by bubba.
 
2012-07-31 04:57:15 PM  
No.
 
2012-07-31 04:58:27 PM  
Hell yes! Clinton will upstage Obama but Obama is screwed if he does or he doesn't put Bill on center stage.
 
2012-07-31 04:59:31 PM  
I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?
 
2012-07-31 04:59:34 PM  

smitty04: Hell yes! Clinton will upstage Obama but Obama is screwed if he does or he doesn't put Bill on center stage.


That is concerning.
 
2012-07-31 05:00:09 PM  

cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?


This is concerning as well.
 
2012-07-31 05:00:52 PM  
I would love to see a duet with Bill on his sax and Obama singing the blues. That would be EPIC.
 
2012-07-31 05:01:56 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-31 05:05:31 PM  
And Warren opening for him.
 
2012-07-31 05:05:33 PM  

cgw_niu: He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov.


Why? His poll numbers aren't trending downwards and Mitt Romney's aren't trending upwards. How does this indicate "needs to change things up if he wants to win"?
 
2012-07-31 05:06:31 PM  
ponderingprinciples.com
 
2012-07-31 05:07:07 PM  

Citrate1007: I would love to see a duet with Bill on his sax and Obama singing the blues. That would be EPIC.


I would pay extra income tax for this.
 
2012-07-31 05:08:18 PM  
Would that even be really that bad of a thing?

Not saying I think it will happen. I think Clinton will make a good case why Obama should be the next president but even if Clinton talked more about his own accomplishments not sure if that would be a horrible thing for Obama's re-election.
 
2012-07-31 05:10:36 PM  
t1.gstatic.com

"I have vivid and painful memories of black churches being burned in my own state when I was a child."

-Bill Clinton, 1996
 
2012-07-31 05:10:57 PM  
Nah, Clinton's role as elder statesman is to articulate why the Democratic Party is the right choice in November and why the GOP is not. Now, Bill would relish the chance to eviscerate the Republican party and exact revenge, so my guess is that the DNC will play up the whole "hey, remember what happened back in '94?" angle.

The Candidate's job is to articulate the vision for his term in office, not break kneecaps.
 
2012-07-31 05:11:15 PM  
Regardless of what Clinton says at the Democratic Convention, Im betting he votes for Romney.
 
2012-07-31 05:11:33 PM  

Corvus: if Clinton talked more about his own accomplishments not sure if that would be a horrible thing for Obama's re-election.


People would wonder why Obama chose to point out Clinton's accomplishments rather than his own.
 
2012-07-31 05:12:42 PM  

smitty04: Corvus: if Clinton talked more about his own accomplishments not sure if that would be a horrible thing for Obama's re-election.

People would wonder why Obama chose to point out Clinton's accomplishments rather than his own.


I would wonder why you don't know that Clinton and Obama are two different people.
 
2012-07-31 05:13:31 PM  
Yes

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2012-07-31 05:15:01 PM  

cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?


And yet you continued to type the rest of that hot mess.
 
2012-07-31 05:17:14 PM  

cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?


I am thinking that you are, in point of fact, an idiot.

In fact, having considered it, I am sure of it.
 
2012-07-31 05:17:53 PM  
Warren G. Harding will be there?
 
2012-07-31 05:18:11 PM  

cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?


I think that would be great and energize a lot of voters. However he is ahead in all the polls so saying "He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov." is BS. ANd why would you have Bill Clinton talk if you have Hillary as VP, that doesn't make sense. It would make her look like "Bill Clinton's Wife" which is probably not what they want to do if they did make her VP.
 
2012-07-31 05:18:25 PM  
As if trying to beat a douchebag like Romney is hard.
 
2012-07-31 05:18:30 PM  
People have gotten so used to Obama as president that they've forgotten what he was like as a candidate. Candidate Obama doesn't get upstaged by anybody.

That said, I'd bet real money that Clinton's speech sees at least one chant of "4 more years."
 
2012-07-31 05:19:11 PM  
Billy C's up in this motherf*cker!
 
2012-07-31 05:19:38 PM  
Is there some reason popular, prominent members should not be invited to a party's nominating convention?
 
2012-07-31 05:19:53 PM  
They should have Corey Booker as Clinton's warm up act.
 
2012-07-31 05:20:12 PM  

smitty04: Corvus: if Clinton talked more about his own accomplishments not sure if that would be a horrible thing for Obama's re-election.

People would wonder why Obama chose to point out Clinton's accomplishments rather than his own.


HUH?? Clinton talking about things Clinton did is "Obama chose to point out Clinton's accomplishments "? How the hell you come up with that?

You know the convention is not only about Obama? People talk about their own things too? Probably not. You sound clueless.
 
2012-07-31 05:20:15 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Warren G. Harding will be there?


I was thinking the ghost of the rumor that John Hanson was black.
 
2012-07-31 05:21:31 PM  

smitty04: Hell yes! Clinton will upstage Obama but Obama is screwed if he does or he doesn't put Bill on center stage.


cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?


And they said the funny was dead on this site.
 
2012-07-31 05:21:36 PM  
www.cnylink.com
 
2012-07-31 05:21:37 PM  

Sandor at the Zoo: Billy C's up in this motherf*cker!


georgiainfo.galileo.usg.edu

Like a Boss
 
2012-07-31 05:22:05 PM  

imontheinternet: People have gotten so used to Obama as president that they've forgotten what he was like as a candidate. Candidate Obama doesn't get upstaged by anybody.

That said, I'd bet real money that Clinton's speech sees at least one chant of "4 more years."


If it wasn't for term limits, Bill Clinton might still be president. Even folks that hated him kind of liked him.
 
2012-07-31 05:22:06 PM  
So who's going to get the gig at the RNC? Santorum? Gingrich?
 
2012-07-31 05:22:58 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Warren G. Harding will be there?


3.bp.blogspot.com

WRONG!
 
2012-07-31 05:23:25 PM  

smitty04: Hell yes! Clinton will upstage Obama but Obama is screwed if he does or he doesn't put Bill on center stage.


Hey Smitty what is Bush doing for the RNC? Oh yeah, he is an embarrassment for the entire party so he is the first president since Nixon not going to his parties convention.
 
2012-07-31 05:23:53 PM  
Amos, why are you playing the race card?
 
2012-07-31 05:25:13 PM  

LasersHurt: No? I think they'll both give good speeches and energize the base, and everyone will go home.


Yup. People re-associating the party brand with a fond ex-President will be good for the brand, good for the tradition. Don't see a problem with this. No one is going to be excited by Clinton and then go pull the switch for Mittens.
 
2012-07-31 05:31:01 PM  

Somacandra: LasersHurt: No? I think they'll both give good speeches and energize the base, and everyone will go home.

Yup. People re-associating the party brand with a fond ex-President will be good for the brand, good for the tradition. Don't see a problem with this. No one is going to be excited by Clinton and then go pull the switch for Mittens.


ABC News sounds very concerned.
 
2012-07-31 05:31:44 PM  
No, he won't be upstaged by Clinton. Both Clinton and Obama will give good speeches.

I'm saving up my money now, because I know I'll be donating a goodly amount of money to the Obama campaign as soon as the Republicans get their derp train a rollin'. I think I donated a good $150 when Sarah Palin gave her speech in 2008.
 
2012-07-31 05:33:35 PM  

Lando Lincoln: No, he won't be upstaged by Clinton. Both Clinton and Obama will give good speeches.

I'm saving up my money now, because I know I'll be donating a goodly amount of money to the Obama campaign as soon as the Republicans get their derp train a rollin'. I think I donated a good $150 when Sarah Palin gave her speech in 2008.


I can't afford that much but the $30 I gave earlier this year was money well spent. (plus a sticker! wheeee!)
 
2012-07-31 05:33:57 PM  
In light of that farkup Dubya, Clinton is one of the better presidents this country has ever seen.
 
2012-07-31 05:34:04 PM  

Corvus: cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?

I think that would be great and energize a lot of voters. However he is ahead in all the polls so saying "He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov." is BS. ANd why would you have Bill Clinton talk if you have Hillary as VP, that doesn't make sense. It would make her look like "Bill Clinton's Wife" which is probably not what they want to do if they did make her VP.



If Romney picks Rice or Rubio as VP, it would be a game changer. The president can not count on the economy to be in full swing to lift him over the electoral college number. Historically, a presidents re-election is a referendum on the state of the economy. If Rubio or Rice is picked, it would change the dynamics of the race. For better or worse, Hillary IS Bill's wife. That hurt her 4 years ago; however, with another 4 years past and the economy in the tanks it might be an asset.

This is going to be a knock down drag out Chicago style campaign. If the VP pick is Rice, then the Presidents team will want to say, "Well we have a woman too". If it is Rubio, "You chose a conservative tebagger because you are racist, we have a woman"

/seen too many Chicago campaigns in my lifetime.
 
MFL
2012-07-31 05:34:28 PM  
So democrats are bringing their last and only claim to success over the past 40 years to go to bat for the man who never was. Touching.
 
2012-07-31 05:36:05 PM  

Jake Havechek: In light of that farkup Dubya, Clinton is one of the better presidents this country has ever seen.


Although I disagreed with him politically and personally, he is a damn smart politician. He would never have gotten away with most of his crap if he were a Republican.
 
2012-07-31 05:37:31 PM  

cgw_niu: He would never have gotten away with most of his crap if he were a Republican.


Yeah, there have never been any Republicans who have weathered sex scandals.
 
2012-07-31 05:37:55 PM  

cgw_niu: Corvus: cgw_niu: I am thinking the President might be dropping the VP and picking Mrs Clinton instead. He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov. Why else would you want to be overshadowed by Bill Clinton like this?

I think that would be great and energize a lot of voters. However he is ahead in all the polls so saying "He really needs to change things up if he wants to win in Nov." is BS. ANd why would you have Bill Clinton talk if you have Hillary as VP, that doesn't make sense. It would make her look like "Bill Clinton's Wife" which is probably not what they want to do if they did make her VP.


If Romney picks Rice or Rubio as VP, it would be a game changer. The president can not count on the economy to be in full swing to lift him over the electoral college number. Historically, a presidents re-election is a referendum on the state of the economy. If Rubio or Rice is picked, it would change the dynamics of the race. For better or worse, Hillary IS Bill's wife. That hurt her 4 years ago; however, with another 4 years past and the economy in the tanks it might be an asset.

This is going to be a knock down drag out Chicago style campaign. If the VP pick is Rice, then the Presidents team will want to say, "Well we have a woman too". If it is Rubio, "You chose a conservative tebagger because you are racist, we have a woman"

/seen too many Chicago campaigns in my lifetime.


If the VP pick is Rice, then the Presidents team will will talk about the endless foreign policy failures of the Bush Administration and how Romney will be more of the same.

Really, tying themselves to Iraq would be monumentally stupid fro the Republicans.
 
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