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(Gizmodo)   Amazingly, the new HOTMAIL may be the best email service out there, but switching to it will never eliminate the stigma of being trapped in the year 1998   (gizmodo.com) divider line 117
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2012-07-31 06:29:15 PM  
got my first, lastname @ outlook . com quite easily today. Playin around with the application and it seems really nice. Much better than the new gmail interface. Now MS needs a finance portion where i can view my stocks and I'll be happy.

Notice when i hooked it up to gmail i got emails i haven't seen in years, really odd. They were definitely deleted on my Gmail acct...
 
2012-07-31 06:34:56 PM  
Unless it supports IMAP, I don't want it.

Because why the hell would you use a crappy web interface unless you're at another computer.
 
2012-07-31 06:38:54 PM  
Does the new powerhouse combine messages like gmail does? The whole "there is a 60 messages long conversation going between 7 people" really starts to annoy if every mail is stored individually without auto pruning the quoted text. If only they went back 3 lay-outs and added folders instead of labels.

Public service notice: kill their own quoted text in e-mails that would increase readability by at least 9001%. No more
>John
>>Amy
>>>John
>>>>Amy
>>>>text
>>>text
>>text
>text

At most
>John
>text
is permissible.
 
2012-07-31 06:48:28 PM  
It might be worth signing up for just to get an email address that doesn't look like a cat walked over your keyboard.
Was the author of the article *gushing* or was I getting a wrong idea?
 
2012-07-31 06:48:48 PM  
I dunno. Gmail's web interface is horrible. So I guess this one could be better.

On the other hand, there's no reason for me to switch. So there's that.
 
2012-07-31 06:51:29 PM  
Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (lar­z[nospam-﹫-backwards]koo­ltu­o*com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.
 
2012-07-31 06:53:27 PM  

DerAppie: Does the new powerhouse combine messages like gmail does? The whole "there is a 60 messages long conversation going between 7 people" really starts to annoy if every mail is stored individually without auto pruning the quoted text. If only they went back 3 lay-outs and added folders instead of labels.



Threading shows up like this:

i20.photobucket.com

Gmail sees it like this on the Weeners:

i20.photobucket.com

Then it got smart (continued the convo)

i20.photobucket.com

/Hope I blanked all my email addresses
 
2012-07-31 06:55:11 PM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.


They did a thing with Reddit today, seems that enough people asked for IMAP that it will be added in
 
2012-07-31 06:56:27 PM  
I have no complaints with gmail. Should I have?
 
2012-07-31 06:57:19 PM  
I still use my hotmail account for newsletters and online retailers. Their crappy android app needs help.
 
2012-07-31 07:02:59 PM  

DerAppie: Does the new powerhouse combine messages like gmail does? The whole "there is a 60 messages long conversation going between 7 people" really starts to annoy if every mail is stored individually without auto pruning the quoted text. If only they went back 3 lay-outs and added folders instead of labels.

Public service notice: kill their own quoted text in e-mails that would increase readability by at least 9001%. No more
>John
>>Amy
>>>John
>>>>Amy
>>>>text
>>>text
>>text
>text

At most
>John
>text
is permissible.


I turned that shiat off on gmail a long time ago.
 
2012-07-31 07:04:05 PM  
Signed up for it. Like the interface. Snagged First.Lastname which is nice. I'm thinking of switching to a Windows Phone for my next mobile device, so hopefully it can integrate really smooth like my current Android device does.
 
2012-07-31 07:04:41 PM  

the_sidewinder: Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.

They did a thing with Reddit today, seems that enough people asked for IMAP that it will be added in


Sweet, I might actually use it then.
 
2012-07-31 07:13:30 PM  

the_sidewinder: moralpanic: Ya, either Gizmodo is 2 years behind in their reporting of 'news', or Hotmail hasn't updated with their new 'best' email service yet.

You have to go to Outlook.com to get the new features and UI. After you visit, you'll see the same changes to hotmail.com


The article is misleading. This seems like a different service, I just signed up, looks ok, but Hotmail remains the same still, if I try to log in to outlook.com using my hotmail account I get an error message: This account does not have an Outlook web app mailbox.
 
2012-07-31 07:22:03 PM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.


The filtering is actually pretty cool. You can select messages and "sweep" them, which auto-generates a rule to either automatically move particular messages to a folder or mark them as spam, delete them, whatever.
 
2012-07-31 07:22:28 PM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.


Just about every email client worth it's salt has native Exchange support these days (hell, even Mail.app in OS X does Exchange natively now). If they are smart Microsoft will give Outlook.com and Hotmail the same direct Exchange sync capabilities for desktop clients that it has for mobile clients, without you having to resort to the stupid Hotmail Connector, but I'm not 100% sure on that. If they have done the upgrade, there should be no need for POP or IMAP since the Exchange protocol should handle everything. I'd honestly much rather use Exchange syncing anyway, since it is about the most bulletproof push email and PIM sync protocol out there currently (which is probably why Google uses the Exchange protocol for Gmail syncing on iOS and other devices).
 
2012-07-31 07:23:33 PM  
Okay, the interface is not bad, if anything, is a little Apple-ish, which shouldn't be a surprise.

/Yeah, I use OSX but I find some of the UI elements, animations and effects silly.
 
2012-07-31 07:24:22 PM  
Say what you will, but that web interface is really frigg'n fast. The interface looks almost identical to Outlook 2013.

/daily hotmail user for . . . 11 years now.
 
2012-07-31 07:24:34 PM  
Hotmail already had more active users than Gmail - and Yahoo has even more again.

I switched back to Hotmail (have it retrieve my gmail) when they allowed both labels & folders.
 
2012-07-31 07:41:48 PM  
Nice, it looks a lot like the OWA on Exchange 2013(minus the "propose new time" and a lot less facebook+twitter shiat.)

I have a domain with EX2010+lync that I use on some lumia phones for personal stuff/dev testing.
I just finished setting up a new vm to toss the CAS service on. It sets up nice and easy, but I'm waiting to try the command line only 2012 server + exchange 2013 since I have no interest in hosting the bosses email in a cloud.

Also, they need some activesync updates still for older Androids which don't seem to trust their wildcard cert on the mail.live.com SAN.
 
2012-07-31 07:50:11 PM  
Count me in the group that just got a firstname.lastname address. We'll see how long it keeps the new car smell.
 
2012-07-31 07:55:05 PM  

Gonz: Count me in the group that just got a firstname.lastname address. We'll see how long it keeps the new car smell.


me too. just because
 
2012-07-31 07:55:38 PM  
Eh what the hell, I joined in and got a firstname.lastname adress. Judging by IE9 and WP7 it really looks like Microsoft realized if they put some effort and money into their product people will like it. That said, they are going full retard with Windows 8
 
2012-07-31 07:57:27 PM  
I've had the same hotmail address for so long it's mind boggling. Once i learned how to set the spam filter i simply stopped getting spam. Now all i get is account phishing spam from wow gold hacks.
 
2012-07-31 08:06:00 PM  
I'm not sure about this. Does it say "You've got mail!" at full volume when a new message arrives? If not, I see no need to upgrade from my lu­dd­ite[nospam-﹫-backwards]loa*com account.
 
2012-07-31 08:06:54 PM  
Cool. Just snagged both first.last@ and nickname@
 
2012-07-31 08:24:18 PM  

MurphyMurphy: I've never stopped using hotmail.

Laugh all you want, shiat works.


Same here. Works great, does everything I need it to, and I barely get any spam. Want to avoid getting spam? Don't give your e-mail address to sketchy sites. Simple as that.

/Which is why my Fark account is registered with a different e-mail address.
 
2012-07-31 08:31:09 PM  
I signed up for several e-mails early on to get my first and last name on them without any numbers. Now I get e-mails meant for several other women with the same name in England, Ireland, Australia, and the USA because people they know are leaving out whatever they added to the name.

No, I don't have an Aunt Helga, I will not bringing my non-existent cat in for a check up at a Belfast vet clinic, I don't want to go to a biotech conference in Washington, DC, and I not one of your Myspace buds.
 
2012-07-31 08:38:58 PM  
Got my hotmail address before Microsoft bought them up (1996?).

Unfortunately, I get a lot of assholes who use my username with a hotmail.com as filler for their various website registrations. Often, I'll just change their password and be done with it (since it comes to my inbox to reset.change it).

Occasionally, I get something like a "BlackPlanet" or "SugarDaddy" dating site, and I'll make an outrageous profile... the later was a methhead who made it clear she wanted her sugar daddy to provide some crack, crystal meth, or other drugs to party. Strangely enough, that and the profile pic are not enough to deter some amorous idiots.

At least I did get a free premium Brazzers account, where I promptly starting downloading copious amounts of HD porn (as premium prices), since the moron had put his credit card number in. This lasted for a couple of weeks, before the idiot must have canceled his card (or the wife saw the charges, heh heh). I have ZERO sympathy for people that can't be bothered to put a legit e-mail in a registration... at the very least, you can get temporary addresses for this purpose. The way I see it, he gifted MY account the free porn.

It's also strange that I don't get a lot of spam through it, though.
 
2012-07-31 08:50:42 PM  
I got my Hotmail account in 1998, so I'm getting a kick out of this. And a ton of spam from some site called "F*ckbook".
 
2012-07-31 09:15:06 PM  

bingethinker: I got my Hotmail account in 1998, so I'm getting a kick out of this. And a ton of spam from some site called "F*ckbook".


How to filter hotmail, http://email.about.com/od/windowslivehotmailtips/qt/How_to_Set_Up_an_I ncoming_Mail_Filter_in_Windows_Live_Hotmai.htm Works like a champ, filter word in senders address, contains word and contains. Stops all the pharmacy, f*ckbook and other repeat spams.
 
2012-07-31 09:42:11 PM  
Eh. I never think of good user names. Plus, having to recaptcha EVERY TIME I try one that is already taken drove me away.

Can they not write a session cookie and not have to ask me any more?
 
2012-07-31 09:50:50 PM  
Adding attachments to emails appears to require Silverlight. Given that I need to be able to access my email from Linux, that's a show stopper. Moonlight's not reliable enough.

Looks neat otherwise.
 
2012-07-31 09:55:57 PM  
Got my hotmail account before MS bought them. But it's a fantasy dragon name @ hotmail, it was never my primary e-mail, and now I only use it for MS services that require a MS Live account to use, or for sign ups that might be spam bait. Have not been good at keeping it fresh though, it's been wiped due to inactivity several times over the years, so I don't have any 'ancient' emails from the pre-MS days.

still have a netscape.net account too, for the same reasons as above, though that one has been completely converted to an AIM mail account.

Two Yahoo accounts, one is primary, and the other is pure spam bait.

The newest of all of them is probably from '98, and I have been through quite a few ISP's and never had to send an email asking folks or businesses to update the address they have for me, which is really the only great thing about web mail.

So after reading TFA, I updated the Hotmail acct to use the new Outlook interface.

Is it clean and quick?

Yes.

Is it enough to make me create a new non-goofy addy @ outlook.com and make it my primary?

No.
 
2012-07-31 09:59:18 PM  
I do agree with TFA author though, bing.com would have been preferable to outlook.com
 
2012-07-31 10:00:48 PM  
Yeah, I'll trust fools that design this page to tell me what's "best" on the net.
www.upl.co



/// right after I buy virus proof cabling.
 
2012-07-31 10:07:20 PM  
Have they fixed their ungodly spam problem yet?
 
2012-07-31 10:28:20 PM  

erveek: Have they fixed their ungodly spam problem yet?


I have no complaints, but I spent 5 minutes back in the early 2000s setting up a junk mail filter.
 
2012-07-31 10:56:12 PM  
My @hotmail email hasn't changed at all...
 
2012-07-31 11:00:51 PM  
still have my hotmail account as my main email account since about 1998 or 1999. I just checked and my oldest email still in the system is from 2001.

I have dodged that ms live crap and any other social aspect that they have tried to introduce. The new changes offer nothing really new or better than the standard since I have kept the account clean.

Is it bad these days to want simple, no bullshiat service? NO I dont want to integrate everything into one easy log in so that you can steal my ID!
 
2012-07-31 11:01:41 PM  

Odd Bird: What has changed is now when logging into my family/professional use account, directs me to a page for alternate contact information (in case I lose my password), such as a phone number or alternate email address. I'll risk losing the password.


Hmm...it would not accept my registration without my phone number or alternate email address.

Of course, I'm using FF15, so MS prolly figures I'm some kind'a commie anyway. ;)

HatMadeOfAss: Signed up for it. Like the interface. Snagged First.Lastname which is nice. I'm thinking of switching to a Windows Phone for my next mobile device, so hopefully it can integrate really smooth like my current Android device does.


That was part of my motivation to sign up, and yes, I got my firstname.lastname. Haven't had that since I was active duty in the AF. Anyway, I hope my old-skool Razr lasts until the Windows Phone comes out.
 
2012-07-31 11:05:21 PM  
It looks exactly like my gmail.... big deal.

There is a way to customize it btw, so it isnt always stuck on the default look. Yes, preview pane and all.
 
2012-07-31 11:37:29 PM  
Which ecosystem do you want to live in.

Google, Apple or Microsoft.

MSFT has made incredible strides in computation, communication and everything digital.

Most people like to "take a pass" on Microsoft, but in the end they're responsible for most of the gadgests and technology we have today.

Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!
 
2012-08-01 12:09:17 AM  
Answer: my own
 
2012-08-01 12:16:07 AM  
I actually like the new client. I even like the conversation view.

Will it drag me away from gmail? Maybe. Can't say for sure. Yesterday, I wouldn't have thought the gmail client would be looking sort of cluttered and haphazard, but oddly enough ... now it does.

At least it isn't "hotmail" anymore. I could never make peace with the idea of being @hotmail.com.
 
2012-08-01 12:50:14 AM  

Cooper420: Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!


lol wut
 
2012-08-01 12:51:52 AM  

RandomAxe:

Gmail keeps getting crappier and crappier as they keep 'improving' it stupidly downward.


Well put. So very many computer programs/sites do this. There should be a Peter Principle-type rule: things are updated until they're useless. If there isn't one (seems unlikely there isn't), I call dibbs on the, "Blank Law." :)

I signed up for Outlook today, I'll see how it is. Gmail keeps changing and I don't see the improvement. It just irritates me when I have to get used to it again.
 
2012-08-01 01:35:34 AM  
I love that there's only one person in the united states that I have to beat to new email domains. Sorry bizarro me, looks like I beat you to yet another one.
 
2012-08-01 02:17:14 AM  

Cooper420: Which ecosystem do you want to live in.

Google, Apple or Microsoft.

MSFT has made incredible strides in computation, communication and everything digital.

Most people like to "take a pass" on Microsoft, but in the end they're responsible for most of the gadgests and technology we have today.

Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!


Geez, and you people complain about Apple fanboys. WTF?
 
2012-08-01 02:18:57 AM  
sweet, got my name and jeanlucpicard for any new xbox accounts i may need
 
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