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2012-07-31 02:34:00 PM
And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-31 02:43:02 PM
I signed up for one way back when and still have it (no easy task 'cause you needed to log in every three months or you'd lose the account). And its just a relatively common firstname.lastname@. No 69s or anythang.

Gives me old-school cred with all my newbie homies.

I long ago gave up trying to filter spam and currently have 6,500+ emails in my inbox.
 
2012-07-31 02:55:56 PM
Can you get an [nospam-﹫-backwards]l­oa*com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.
 
2012-07-31 02:56:32 PM

czei: And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

[speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Alternatively, that's because people over the age of 24 actually have real work to do. And they don't do it on Twitter unless they work for CNN.
 
2012-07-31 03:23:43 PM
I still get my email from Lycos.
No joke.
 
2012-07-31 03:33:22 PM

czei: And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

[speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Why did it need to change?

Remember the whole New Coke debacle?

HOTMaiL is an iconic website representing the web of old. Hotmail was the first successful free email service out there.

This is akin to when GeoCities shut down two and a half years ago.
 
2012-07-31 03:33:57 PM

Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.


Yes, been that way for a few years now
 
2012-07-31 03:48:02 PM
Am I missing something? Looks the same shiat to me.
 
2012-07-31 04:16:23 PM
I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.
 
2012-07-31 04:17:20 PM
Did anybody else think they were reading an advertisement from Microsoft instead of an objective review article?
 
2012-07-31 04:19:34 PM

cman: Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.

Yes, been that way for a few years now


I'd much rather have what you quoted there
 
2012-07-31 04:22:36 PM

czei: And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

[speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Everyone knows that people age 12-24 are complete imbeciles.
 
2012-07-31 05:03:17 PM

Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.


I still have one that gets spammed mercilessly that my gmail account filters. That account gets an ungodly amount of spam sent to it.
 
2012-07-31 05:07:02 PM

emiliogtz: Am I missing something? Looks the same shiat to me.


Noticed a slight change on the landing page.
What has changed is now when logging into my family/professional use account, directs me to a page for alternate contact information (in case I lose my password), such as a phone number or alternate email address. I'll risk losing the password.

In my other accounts, haven't noticed any changes.

/DNRTA
 
2012-07-31 05:07:53 PM

James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.


So I won't be able to reach you at hugep­en­is­69­[nospam-﹫-backwards]o­o­hay*co­m?
 
2012-07-31 05:09:38 PM
Guys, Hotmail hasn't changed yet. They're debuting it as "outlook." Go to outlook.com to check it out - it's in "preview" so none of this stuff has moved to hotmail proper yet.
 
2012-07-31 05:10:42 PM
My Juno account is probably older (16 years) than some farkers.

/Or at least, more mature than most farkers
//Not my primary email
///But still have friends from the past "find" me with it, so I keep it around
 
2012-07-31 05:10:58 PM
is this the thread where we ask for an invite to gmail?
 
2012-07-31 05:13:06 PM
I've had an account since '98 and still use it regularly. I'm seriously considering abandoning it since Microsoft feels the need to prompt me to a tie a phone number to the account every single freaking time I log in.

NO MORE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU!
 
2012-07-31 05:13:57 PM
I still have mine from back in '99. I check it about once a week. There are still some important things I have tied up with it, insurance and bank notifications. Things like that I haven't bothered to give them my newer addresses.

It's mostly just a junk catcher now.
 
2012-07-31 05:14:20 PM
I still use AOL, but I only e-mail ironically.
 
2012-07-31 05:14:58 PM

Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.


Yes you can. I have one and there is no finer bait for trolling than using an aol addy.
 
2012-07-31 05:15:33 PM

Donnchadha: Did anybody else think they were reading an advertisement from Microsoft instead of an objective review article?


They would have had to pay iEngadget also Link
TheVerge Link
 
2012-07-31 05:15:38 PM
Have hotmail. Love hotmail. After over a decade it's just intuitive for me now.

The only thing I'd change is the search function. I'd make it so you can search within folders and add extra search words. Oh, and the search would include the deleted folder as well. Sorry but sometimes I don't know I'll be in the mood for a pizza on Friday when I get the coupon on Wednesday.

/my lawn
//get off it
 
2012-07-31 05:17:46 PM
What you will see if you go to Outlook.com (the new Hotmail)

p.twimg.com
 
2012-07-31 05:19:01 PM
OH look, someone shoved a crap ton of cash to gawker to shill a product again.

Not as blatant as yesterday's "Zynga isn't evil and is actually innovative" 4 page puff peice but still reeks.
 
2012-07-31 05:19:09 PM

Ed Finnerty: James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.

So I won't be able to reach you at hugepenis69[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]oohay[* image 7x13]com?


It forwards.
 
2012-07-31 05:19:52 PM
Why all the hotmail hate? It is just a free eMail program. For farks sake I've had mine since, well I can't really remember anymore when I got that account and it has served me well as public eMail address and spam catcher.

Of course I also have several Yahoo, GMail, Charter, and other various eMail accounts I used to sign up for one peice of shiat thing or another.
 
2012-07-31 05:19:58 PM

mr lawson: is this the thread where we ask for an invite to gmail?


You laugh, but those were some dark days here on Fark.
 
2012-07-31 05:23:29 PM
LasersHurt: Guys, Hotmail hasn't changed yet.

I know what you're saying, but it sure has changed over the years, and not for the better. It used to be lean and fast and stable. It's gone downhill mostly steadily since MS bought it.

Outlook is a crumbly pile of crap with suspicious hairs sticking out of it, but . . . frankly, this "Outlook" upgrade to Hotmail looks like an actual upgrade. Wait and see, but I'm weirdly optimistic.

Gmail keeps getting crappier and crappier as they keep 'improving' it stupidly downward. If Hotmail actually becomes good again, that would not bother me at all.
 
2012-07-31 05:26:07 PM
Oh yeah? Well I still get email from my Excite account. And it sucks butts.
 
2012-07-31 05:27:27 PM
I've never stopped using hotmail.

Laugh all you want, shiat works.

Though the new truncated passwords are a small pain in my ass. I got so used to typing the one I had and now I have to count out 16 characters and freeze (my hands still want to finish the last 4 characters)
 
2012-07-31 05:27:47 PM

senorpogo: I've had an account since '98 and still use it regularly. I'm seriously considering abandoning it since Microsoft feels the need to prompt me to a tie a phone number to the account every single freaking time I log in.

NO MORE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU!


It's for password recovery. I've had my cell info in there for years and haven't got any telemarketing calls. They are probably tires of dealing with idiots who locked themselves out of their accounts and can't remember the recovery questions they set five years ago.
 
2012-07-31 05:31:39 PM
Windows 8, Office 15, and Windows Phone have all turned stale things into vibrant, modern successes. And Hotmail-now Outlook-can boast the same.

Aaaaaaaand I stopped reading.
 
2012-07-31 05:32:47 PM
I like it.
 
2012-07-31 05:32:48 PM
Kind of glad to have one with my actual name and one with Uwila - which Gmail deems too short to use.
 
2012-07-31 05:34:06 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Donnchadha: Did anybody else think they were reading an advertisement from Microsoft instead of an objective review article?

They would have had to pay iEngadget also Link
TheVerge Link


I'm not saying that nobody is allowed to write an objective review, but just that Gizmodo article seemed to parrot a bunch of talking points from the Microsoft press release (and yes, there was likely a press release that prompted all of these articles on launch day).

The one point that really sticks out is:

This is starting to look familiar to the point of predictability. Microsoft takes something boring, partially broken, and thoroughly entrenched: Windows, Office, Mobile. Toss nearly everything ugly and uninspired into the ash heap, put smart people to work on it, and pack it full of Metro. Windows 8, Office 15, and Windows Phone have all turned stale things into vibrant, modern successes. And Hotmail-now Outlook-can boast the same.

I was unaware that the as-yet-unreleased Windows 8 is a "vibrant, modern success" since it's been "pack[ed] full of Metro". It just reads like a talking point memo or a fanboy gone loony.
 
2012-07-31 05:34:12 PM

ZipSplat: Windows 8, Office 15, and Windows Phone have all turned stale things into vibrant, modern successes. And Hotmail-now Outlook-can boast the same.

Aaaaaaaand I stopped reading.


Yes, that was a dead giveaway that this was a paid promotional.

I still signed up for a new outlook account, just for the heck of it.
 
2012-07-31 05:35:52 PM

James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.


Not a bad idea. I wasn't really going to, but I grabbed my fir­s­t*l­ast­n­a­me­[nospam-﹫-backwards]koolt­uo*co­m just in case it proves to be worth switching. At the very least, it'll be great for resumes.
 
2012-07-31 05:37:47 PM

LasersHurt: Guys, Hotmail hasn't changed yet. They're debuting it as "outlook." Go to outlook.com to check it out - it's in "preview" so none of this stuff has moved to hotmail proper yet.


It does scream, college students and small business owners.

Can't think why anyone else would use it.

/word
//make letters and shiat
///yo
 
2012-07-31 05:42:20 PM
Ha. I still have email in my hotmail inbox from 1998, so I'm getting a kick out of this headline

/no, seriously, I do
//well, technically it's in my "saved folder" to save it from the auto-pruners
 
2012-07-31 05:45:22 PM

emiliogtz: Am I missing something? Looks the same shiat to me.


Ya, either Gizmodo is 2 years behind in their reporting of 'news', or Hotmail hasn't updated with their new 'best' email service yet.
 
2012-07-31 05:46:50 PM

James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.


I just snagged my name too. In my opinion, having a random lettered gmail account is also pretty bad. This will do well for professional purposes.
 
2012-07-31 05:47:56 PM
Ive had my hotmail account since before they were owned by microsoft.

/but use gmail day to day
//should start ironically using my @aol.com address...
 
2012-07-31 05:49:07 PM
I just signed up and got a much shorter username than what I have to use for gmail.

I remember seeing in some Windows 8 screenshots that you need a Microsoft account to login. I wonder if the @outlook.com emails will work for that too.
 
2012-07-31 05:53:39 PM
My primary personal email is still Yahoo! Why? Because I'm an old man and I don't like change!
 
2012-07-31 05:55:30 PM

moralpanic: Ya, either Gizmodo is 2 years behind in their reporting of 'news', or Hotmail hasn't updated with their new 'best' email service yet.


You have to go to Outlook.com to get the new features and UI. After you visit, you'll see the same changes to hotmail.com
 
2012-07-31 05:55:35 PM
Can I use Outlook with Outlook.com?

/yo dawg...
 
2012-07-31 05:59:28 PM

plcow: James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.

I just snagged my name too. In my opinion, having a random lettered gmail account is also pretty bad. This will do well for professional purposes.


Why not just buy your own domain name? They're about $5-$20/year depending on registrar and TLD (e.g. com, net, org, co.uk, etc.) and you never need to worry about addresses being unavailable. Much more professional than a free account. It also gives you provider-independence: don't like who provides your mail? Switch to a different provider while still keeping the same address. I've done just that for 13+ years and switched between 6 different mail providers (I've been with Google Apps since it started and remain quite satisfied) without changing my address or causing any disruption to mail service.

If you like Hotmail, you can even have them provide mail for your domain if you wish.

Having your own domain is much more professional than using a free mail provider's address.

/prefers domain registration through GANDI because they don't suck. They also provide DNS and mail hosting to names registered with them if one wishes.
//is a GANDI customer and free Google Apps user. I'm not paid or otherwise compensated for mentioning them.
 
2012-07-31 06:03:14 PM
Microsoft actually has some very attractive web apps. Their online flavor of Outlook (first since as the web interface to Microsoft Exchanges and now on Outlook.com) is damn nice. The Zune web interface software (think iTunes online) is nice. This new full featured online office program they're offering looks nice, it's main flaw is that its price exceeds that of Google's corporate accounts (although the MS office suite has more features).

Overall though the MS online space just doesn't feel as unified as Googles and costs more (and the extra features don't justify the cost to all those non power users out there). Still when MS tells me they made a kickass webapp I believe them. I just remain skeptical of their ability to make a kickass ecosystem of webapps and price it well.
 
2012-07-31 06:29:15 PM
got my first, lastname @ outlook . com quite easily today. Playin around with the application and it seems really nice. Much better than the new gmail interface. Now MS needs a finance portion where i can view my stocks and I'll be happy.

Notice when i hooked it up to gmail i got emails i haven't seen in years, really odd. They were definitely deleted on my Gmail acct...
 
2012-07-31 06:34:56 PM
Unless it supports IMAP, I don't want it.

Because why the hell would you use a crappy web interface unless you're at another computer.
 
2012-07-31 06:38:54 PM
Does the new powerhouse combine messages like gmail does? The whole "there is a 60 messages long conversation going between 7 people" really starts to annoy if every mail is stored individually without auto pruning the quoted text. If only they went back 3 lay-outs and added folders instead of labels.

Public service notice: kill their own quoted text in e-mails that would increase readability by at least 9001%. No more
>John
>>Amy
>>>John
>>>>Amy
>>>>text
>>>text
>>text
>text

At most
>John
>text
is permissible.
 
2012-07-31 06:48:28 PM
It might be worth signing up for just to get an email address that doesn't look like a cat walked over your keyboard.
Was the author of the article *gushing* or was I getting a wrong idea?
 
2012-07-31 06:48:48 PM
I dunno. Gmail's web interface is horrible. So I guess this one could be better.

On the other hand, there's no reason for me to switch. So there's that.
 
2012-07-31 06:51:29 PM
Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (lar­z[nospam-﹫-backwards]kool­tuo*com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.
 
2012-07-31 06:53:27 PM

DerAppie: Does the new powerhouse combine messages like gmail does? The whole "there is a 60 messages long conversation going between 7 people" really starts to annoy if every mail is stored individually without auto pruning the quoted text. If only they went back 3 lay-outs and added folders instead of labels.



Threading shows up like this:

i20.photobucket.com

Gmail sees it like this on the Weeners:

i20.photobucket.com

Then it got smart (continued the convo)

i20.photobucket.com

/Hope I blanked all my email addresses
 
2012-07-31 06:55:11 PM

Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.


They did a thing with Reddit today, seems that enough people asked for IMAP that it will be added in
 
2012-07-31 06:56:27 PM
I have no complaints with gmail. Should I have?
 
2012-07-31 06:57:19 PM
I still use my hotmail account for newsletters and online retailers. Their crappy android app needs help.
 
2012-07-31 07:02:59 PM

DerAppie: Does the new powerhouse combine messages like gmail does? The whole "there is a 60 messages long conversation going between 7 people" really starts to annoy if every mail is stored individually without auto pruning the quoted text. If only they went back 3 lay-outs and added folders instead of labels.

Public service notice: kill their own quoted text in e-mails that would increase readability by at least 9001%. No more
>John
>>Amy
>>>John
>>>>Amy
>>>>text
>>>text
>>text
>text

At most
>John
>text
is permissible.


I turned that shiat off on gmail a long time ago.
 
2012-07-31 07:04:05 PM
Signed up for it. Like the interface. Snagged First.Lastname which is nice. I'm thinking of switching to a Windows Phone for my next mobile device, so hopefully it can integrate really smooth like my current Android device does.
 
2012-07-31 07:04:41 PM

the_sidewinder: Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.

They did a thing with Reddit today, seems that enough people asked for IMAP that it will be added in


Sweet, I might actually use it then.
 
2012-07-31 07:13:30 PM

the_sidewinder: moralpanic: Ya, either Gizmodo is 2 years behind in their reporting of 'news', or Hotmail hasn't updated with their new 'best' email service yet.

You have to go to Outlook.com to get the new features and UI. After you visit, you'll see the same changes to hotmail.com


The article is misleading. This seems like a different service, I just signed up, looks ok, but Hotmail remains the same still, if I try to log in to outlook.com using my hotmail account I get an error message: This account does not have an Outlook web app mailbox.
 
2012-07-31 07:22:03 PM

Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.


The filtering is actually pretty cool. You can select messages and "sweep" them, which auto-generates a rule to either automatically move particular messages to a folder or mark them as spam, delete them, whatever.
 
2012-07-31 07:22:28 PM

Lars The Canadian Viking: Yup, signed up, got a sweet email (larz[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kooltuo[* image 7x13]com), but no IMAP support, don't even know about POP support. Looks like crappy message filtering too. So, I'm defiantly not going to be using it. There was something about POP support, but I couldn't figure it out, think you need a corporate account or something. Would be nice if they supported searching through their settings/help options like gmail so I could be sure.


Just about every email client worth it's salt has native Exchange support these days (hell, even Mail.app in OS X does Exchange natively now). If they are smart Microsoft will give Outlook.com and Hotmail the same direct Exchange sync capabilities for desktop clients that it has for mobile clients, without you having to resort to the stupid Hotmail Connector, but I'm not 100% sure on that. If they have done the upgrade, there should be no need for POP or IMAP since the Exchange protocol should handle everything. I'd honestly much rather use Exchange syncing anyway, since it is about the most bulletproof push email and PIM sync protocol out there currently (which is probably why Google uses the Exchange protocol for Gmail syncing on iOS and other devices).
 
2012-07-31 07:23:33 PM
Okay, the interface is not bad, if anything, is a little Apple-ish, which shouldn't be a surprise.

/Yeah, I use OSX but I find some of the UI elements, animations and effects silly.
 
2012-07-31 07:24:22 PM
Say what you will, but that web interface is really frigg'n fast. The interface looks almost identical to Outlook 2013.

/daily hotmail user for . . . 11 years now.
 
2012-07-31 07:24:34 PM
Hotmail already had more active users than Gmail - and Yahoo has even more again.

I switched back to Hotmail (have it retrieve my gmail) when they allowed both labels & folders.
 
2012-07-31 07:41:48 PM
Nice, it looks a lot like the OWA on Exchange 2013(minus the "propose new time" and a lot less facebook+twitter shiat.)

I have a domain with EX2010+lync that I use on some lumia phones for personal stuff/dev testing.
I just finished setting up a new vm to toss the CAS service on. It sets up nice and easy, but I'm waiting to try the command line only 2012 server + exchange 2013 since I have no interest in hosting the bosses email in a cloud.

Also, they need some activesync updates still for older Androids which don't seem to trust their wildcard cert on the mail.live.com SAN.
 
2012-07-31 07:50:11 PM
Count me in the group that just got a firstname.lastname address. We'll see how long it keeps the new car smell.
 
2012-07-31 07:55:05 PM

Gonz: Count me in the group that just got a firstname.lastname address. We'll see how long it keeps the new car smell.


me too. just because
 
2012-07-31 07:55:38 PM
Eh what the hell, I joined in and got a firstname.lastname adress. Judging by IE9 and WP7 it really looks like Microsoft realized if they put some effort and money into their product people will like it. That said, they are going full retard with Windows 8
 
2012-07-31 07:57:27 PM
I've had the same hotmail address for so long it's mind boggling. Once i learned how to set the spam filter i simply stopped getting spam. Now all i get is account phishing spam from wow gold hacks.
 
2012-07-31 08:06:00 PM
I'm not sure about this. Does it say "You've got mail!" at full volume when a new message arrives? If not, I see no need to upgrade from my lu­ddite[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­o­a*com account.
 
2012-07-31 08:06:54 PM
Cool. Just snagged both first.last@ and nickname@
 
2012-07-31 08:24:18 PM

MurphyMurphy: I've never stopped using hotmail.

Laugh all you want, shiat works.


Same here. Works great, does everything I need it to, and I barely get any spam. Want to avoid getting spam? Don't give your e-mail address to sketchy sites. Simple as that.

/Which is why my Fark account is registered with a different e-mail address.
 
2012-07-31 08:31:09 PM
I signed up for several e-mails early on to get my first and last name on them without any numbers. Now I get e-mails meant for several other women with the same name in England, Ireland, Australia, and the USA because people they know are leaving out whatever they added to the name.

No, I don't have an Aunt Helga, I will not bringing my non-existent cat in for a check up at a Belfast vet clinic, I don't want to go to a biotech conference in Washington, DC, and I not one of your Myspace buds.
 
2012-07-31 08:38:58 PM
Got my hotmail address before Microsoft bought them up (1996?).

Unfortunately, I get a lot of assholes who use my username with a hotmail.com as filler for their various website registrations. Often, I'll just change their password and be done with it (since it comes to my inbox to reset.change it).

Occasionally, I get something like a "BlackPlanet" or "SugarDaddy" dating site, and I'll make an outrageous profile... the later was a methhead who made it clear she wanted her sugar daddy to provide some crack, crystal meth, or other drugs to party. Strangely enough, that and the profile pic are not enough to deter some amorous idiots.

At least I did get a free premium Brazzers account, where I promptly starting downloading copious amounts of HD porn (as premium prices), since the moron had put his credit card number in. This lasted for a couple of weeks, before the idiot must have canceled his card (or the wife saw the charges, heh heh). I have ZERO sympathy for people that can't be bothered to put a legit e-mail in a registration... at the very least, you can get temporary addresses for this purpose. The way I see it, he gifted MY account the free porn.

It's also strange that I don't get a lot of spam through it, though.
 
2012-07-31 08:50:42 PM
I got my Hotmail account in 1998, so I'm getting a kick out of this. And a ton of spam from some site called "F*ckbook".
 
2012-07-31 09:15:06 PM

bingethinker: I got my Hotmail account in 1998, so I'm getting a kick out of this. And a ton of spam from some site called "F*ckbook".


How to filter hotmail, http://email.about.com/od/windowslivehotmailtips/qt/How_to_Set_Up_an_I ncoming_Mail_Filter_in_Windows_Live_Hotmai.htm Works like a champ, filter word in senders address, contains word and contains. Stops all the pharmacy, f*ckbook and other repeat spams.
 
2012-07-31 09:42:11 PM
Eh. I never think of good user names. Plus, having to recaptcha EVERY TIME I try one that is already taken drove me away.

Can they not write a session cookie and not have to ask me any more?
 
2012-07-31 09:50:50 PM
Adding attachments to emails appears to require Silverlight. Given that I need to be able to access my email from Linux, that's a show stopper. Moonlight's not reliable enough.

Looks neat otherwise.
 
2012-07-31 09:55:57 PM
Got my hotmail account before MS bought them. But it's a fantasy dragon name @ hotmail, it was never my primary e-mail, and now I only use it for MS services that require a MS Live account to use, or for sign ups that might be spam bait. Have not been good at keeping it fresh though, it's been wiped due to inactivity several times over the years, so I don't have any 'ancient' emails from the pre-MS days.

still have a netscape.net account too, for the same reasons as above, though that one has been completely converted to an AIM mail account.

Two Yahoo accounts, one is primary, and the other is pure spam bait.

The newest of all of them is probably from '98, and I have been through quite a few ISP's and never had to send an email asking folks or businesses to update the address they have for me, which is really the only great thing about web mail.

So after reading TFA, I updated the Hotmail acct to use the new Outlook interface.

Is it clean and quick?

Yes.

Is it enough to make me create a new non-goofy addy @ outlook.com and make it my primary?

No.
 
2012-07-31 09:59:18 PM
I do agree with TFA author though, bing.com would have been preferable to outlook.com
 
2012-07-31 10:00:48 PM
Yeah, I'll trust fools that design this page to tell me what's "best" on the net.
www.upl.co



/// right after I buy virus proof cabling.
 
2012-07-31 10:07:20 PM
Have they fixed their ungodly spam problem yet?
 
2012-07-31 10:28:20 PM

erveek: Have they fixed their ungodly spam problem yet?


I have no complaints, but I spent 5 minutes back in the early 2000s setting up a junk mail filter.
 
2012-07-31 10:56:12 PM
My @hotmail email hasn't changed at all...
 
2012-07-31 11:00:51 PM
still have my hotmail account as my main email account since about 1998 or 1999. I just checked and my oldest email still in the system is from 2001.

I have dodged that ms live crap and any other social aspect that they have tried to introduce. The new changes offer nothing really new or better than the standard since I have kept the account clean.

Is it bad these days to want simple, no bullshiat service? NO I dont want to integrate everything into one easy log in so that you can steal my ID!
 
2012-07-31 11:01:41 PM

Odd Bird: What has changed is now when logging into my family/professional use account, directs me to a page for alternate contact information (in case I lose my password), such as a phone number or alternate email address. I'll risk losing the password.


Hmm...it would not accept my registration without my phone number or alternate email address.

Of course, I'm using FF15, so MS prolly figures I'm some kind'a commie anyway. ;)

HatMadeOfAss: Signed up for it. Like the interface. Snagged First.Lastname which is nice. I'm thinking of switching to a Windows Phone for my next mobile device, so hopefully it can integrate really smooth like my current Android device does.


That was part of my motivation to sign up, and yes, I got my firstname.lastname. Haven't had that since I was active duty in the AF. Anyway, I hope my old-skool Razr lasts until the Windows Phone comes out.
 
2012-07-31 11:05:21 PM
It looks exactly like my gmail.... big deal.

There is a way to customize it btw, so it isnt always stuck on the default look. Yes, preview pane and all.
 
2012-07-31 11:37:29 PM
Which ecosystem do you want to live in.

Google, Apple or Microsoft.

MSFT has made incredible strides in computation, communication and everything digital.

Most people like to "take a pass" on Microsoft, but in the end they're responsible for most of the gadgests and technology we have today.

Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!
 
2012-08-01 12:09:17 AM
Answer: my own
 
2012-08-01 12:16:07 AM
I actually like the new client. I even like the conversation view.

Will it drag me away from gmail? Maybe. Can't say for sure. Yesterday, I wouldn't have thought the gmail client would be looking sort of cluttered and haphazard, but oddly enough ... now it does.

At least it isn't "hotmail" anymore. I could never make peace with the idea of being @hotmail.com.
 
2012-08-01 12:50:14 AM

Cooper420: Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!


lol wut
 
2012-08-01 12:51:52 AM

RandomAxe:

Gmail keeps getting crappier and crappier as they keep 'improving' it stupidly downward.


Well put. So very many computer programs/sites do this. There should be a Peter Principle-type rule: things are updated until they're useless. If there isn't one (seems unlikely there isn't), I call dibbs on the, "Blank Law." :)

I signed up for Outlook today, I'll see how it is. Gmail keeps changing and I don't see the improvement. It just irritates me when I have to get used to it again.
 
2012-08-01 01:35:34 AM
I love that there's only one person in the united states that I have to beat to new email domains. Sorry bizarro me, looks like I beat you to yet another one.
 
2012-08-01 02:17:14 AM

Cooper420: Which ecosystem do you want to live in.

Google, Apple or Microsoft.

MSFT has made incredible strides in computation, communication and everything digital.

Most people like to "take a pass" on Microsoft, but in the end they're responsible for most of the gadgests and technology we have today.

Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!


Geez, and you people complain about Apple fanboys. WTF?
 
2012-08-01 02:18:57 AM
sweet, got my name and jeanlucpicard for any new xbox accounts i may need
 
2012-08-01 05:07:07 AM
Tried it and it SUCKED!

I can't send a single email with this Microsoft crap of an app. Outlook tells me to verify a Captcha, but it fails every time - even though it is correct. I attempted to verify my account using my cell phone, but got an error to try again later.

Back to Gmail I guess.
 
2012-08-01 06:32:36 AM
I don't really care what th web interface is like, because I never use it.

To me, my GMail account is just an address, one that I'd like to remain the same for as long as possible. But I do all my email through IMAP using email clients on my computer or phone.
 
2012-08-01 08:50:26 AM

Cooper420: Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!


Are they saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in their calculations. I hope they realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.
 
2012-08-01 08:50:41 AM
Tried it, doesn't work. Everything I click on nothing happens.

Seems they fail at cross browser compatibility.

Also seems it picked up my live account and logged me in through that!
 
2012-08-01 09:11:40 AM
have had my hotmail account since 98. I actually have two since 98 that I still use. I don't get much spam in those accounts luckily, but I have a Yahoo account since 98 that is all about the spam. It gets roughly 500 emails a day. I use it when I go places and they bug me about an email address when I make a purchase.

Just got an @outlook addy, and the upgrade looks interesting. I created a gmail a short time back b/c everyone was ranting and raving about it, but I've found myself using it less and less, and back to my old hotmail account.

I'll just forward all 20 email accounts to the outlook.
 
2012-08-01 09:13:14 AM
Ahhhh Hotmail...do they still use "What is your favorite color?" as a password recovery question?
 
2012-08-01 09:47:34 AM
I've always had hotmail. Still do. But I also have gmail and a bunch of other accounts. A handful all in all and each have a specific use: personal, shopping, travel, forums, garbage registrations... Separating them by domain names makes it easy.
 
2012-08-01 09:55:16 AM
I still use Hotmail as my main account but they seriously need to update their spam filter. Such obvious shiat is allowed through.
 
2012-08-01 10:01:06 AM
One thing I do like about Hotmail is it's very easy to create an email alias. Either to keep track of things or for a temp account all tied into your main account. You can pick from 4 domain names as well. I don't think Gmail has this.
 
2012-08-01 10:05:47 AM
The fact rthat Windows 8 is hailed as a success means this article is full of shiat.
 
2012-08-01 10:34:46 AM

Gonz: Cooper420: Even the linux community can't attack the thousands upon thousands lines of code Microsoft had developed!

Are they saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in their calculations. I hope they realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.


Okay, that one I managed to find.
 
2012-08-01 11:20:00 AM
Looks good to me, and think I am going to switch. Tired of not being able to get my fi­r­st*la­st[nospam-﹫-backwards]rev­et­ah­w­*co­m and finally I do, so this is good enough reason for me to switch emails finally. firstm­iddl­ela­st­[nospam-﹫-backwards]re­ve­t­ahw*c­om has just been too long... Besides, I plan on getting a WP8 when it is released, so makes sense to me to do this switch.
 
2012-08-01 04:02:09 PM

senorpogo: I've had an account since '98 and still use it regularly. I'm seriously considering abandoning it since Microsoft feels the need to prompt me to a tie a phone number to the account every single freaking time I log in.

NO MORE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU!


It doesn't do any validation though. I just gave it 999-999-9999 and my yahoo e-mail address (which I haven't checked in about 3 years).
 
2012-08-01 04:29:30 PM
Just signed up and got my firstname.lastname at... However, the initial splash screen and godawful intro video after you are signed up makes it painfully clear they are going to be marketing this hard towards 20-yo douchenozzles.
 
2012-08-01 06:29:49 PM
signed up with every permutation of my name I could think of. Probably some of yours, too. And some plays on words.

/gates@ already taken
//ditto stevejobs@
///even tried gawker@
 
2012-08-01 11:25:29 PM
Am I the only one who still has an @msn.com account? I always thought it looked more professional than most of the others and it's super fast to type. The new Outlook sounds ok and the site is really fast, but I hate all this Metro stuff they are pushing now.
 
2012-08-02 05:59:15 PM
So now when someone says they have outlook and need help I get to ask them even more questions to pinpoint what they mean?

Microsoft, you suck.
 
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