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(Gizmodo)   Amazingly, the new HOTMAIL may be the best email service out there, but switching to it will never eliminate the stigma of being trapped in the year 1998   (gizmodo.com) divider line 117
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2012-07-31 02:34:00 PM
And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-31 02:43:02 PM
I signed up for one way back when and still have it (no easy task 'cause you needed to log in every three months or you'd lose the account). And its just a relatively common firstname.lastname@. No 69s or anythang.

Gives me old-school cred with all my newbie homies.

I long ago gave up trying to filter spam and currently have 6,500+ emails in my inbox.
 
2012-07-31 02:55:56 PM
Can you get an "[nospam-﹫-backwards]loa­*c­o­m" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.
 
2012-07-31 02:56:32 PM

czei: And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

[speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Alternatively, that's because people over the age of 24 actually have real work to do. And they don't do it on Twitter unless they work for CNN.
 
2012-07-31 03:23:43 PM
I still get my email from Lycos.
No joke.
 
2012-07-31 03:33:22 PM

czei: And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

[speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Why did it need to change?

Remember the whole New Coke debacle?

HOTMaiL is an iconic website representing the web of old. Hotmail was the first successful free email service out there.

This is akin to when GeoCities shut down two and a half years ago.
 
2012-07-31 03:33:57 PM

Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.


Yes, been that way for a few years now
 
2012-07-31 03:48:02 PM
Am I missing something? Looks the same shiat to me.
 
2012-07-31 04:16:23 PM
I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.
 
2012-07-31 04:17:20 PM
Did anybody else think they were reading an advertisement from Microsoft instead of an objective review article?
 
2012-07-31 04:19:34 PM

cman: Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.

Yes, been that way for a few years now


I'd much rather have what you quoted there
 
2012-07-31 04:22:36 PM

czei: And people say that Microsoft doesn't innovate... Now that everyone under 20 has switched to social media Microsoft finally fixed their embarrassing free email.

[speakingpowerpoint.files.wordpress.com image 850x637]


Everyone knows that people age 12-24 are complete imbeciles.
 
2012-07-31 05:03:17 PM

Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.


I still have one that gets spammed mercilessly that my gmail account filters. That account gets an ungodly amount of spam sent to it.
 
2012-07-31 05:07:02 PM

emiliogtz: Am I missing something? Looks the same shiat to me.


Noticed a slight change on the landing page.
What has changed is now when logging into my family/professional use account, directs me to a page for alternate contact information (in case I lose my password), such as a phone number or alternate email address. I'll risk losing the password.

In my other accounts, haven't noticed any changes.

/DNRTA
 
2012-07-31 05:07:53 PM

James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.


So I won't be able to reach you at huge­pe­nis­69[nospam-﹫-backwards]o­ohay­*com?
 
2012-07-31 05:09:38 PM
Guys, Hotmail hasn't changed yet. They're debuting it as "outlook." Go to outlook.com to check it out - it's in "preview" so none of this stuff has moved to hotmail proper yet.
 
2012-07-31 05:10:42 PM
My Juno account is probably older (16 years) than some farkers.

/Or at least, more mature than most farkers
//Not my primary email
///But still have friends from the past "find" me with it, so I keep it around
 
2012-07-31 05:10:58 PM
is this the thread where we ask for an invite to gmail?
 
2012-07-31 05:13:06 PM
I've had an account since '98 and still use it regularly. I'm seriously considering abandoning it since Microsoft feels the need to prompt me to a tie a phone number to the account every single freaking time I log in.

NO MORE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU!
 
2012-07-31 05:13:57 PM
I still have mine from back in '99. I check it about once a week. There are still some important things I have tied up with it, insurance and bank notifications. Things like that I haven't bothered to give them my newer addresses.

It's mostly just a junk catcher now.
 
2012-07-31 05:14:20 PM
I still use AOL, but I only e-mail ironically.
 
2012-07-31 05:14:58 PM

Lando Lincoln: Can you get an "[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]loa[* image 7x13]com" email for free yet? I'd like to initiate nerd rage every time people see my email address.


Yes you can. I have one and there is no finer bait for trolling than using an aol addy.
 
2012-07-31 05:15:33 PM

Donnchadha: Did anybody else think they were reading an advertisement from Microsoft instead of an objective review article?


They would have had to pay iEngadget also Link
TheVerge Link
 
2012-07-31 05:15:38 PM
Have hotmail. Love hotmail. After over a decade it's just intuitive for me now.

The only thing I'd change is the search function. I'd make it so you can search within folders and add extra search words. Oh, and the search would include the deleted folder as well. Sorry but sometimes I don't know I'll be in the mood for a pizza on Friday when I get the coupon on Wednesday.

/my lawn
//get off it
 
2012-07-31 05:17:46 PM
What you will see if you go to Outlook.com (the new Hotmail)

p.twimg.com
 
2012-07-31 05:19:01 PM
OH look, someone shoved a crap ton of cash to gawker to shill a product again.

Not as blatant as yesterday's "Zynga isn't evil and is actually innovative" 4 page puff peice but still reeks.
 
2012-07-31 05:19:09 PM

Ed Finnerty: James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.

So I won't be able to reach you at hugepenis69[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]oohay[* image 7x13]com?


It forwards.
 
2012-07-31 05:19:52 PM
Why all the hotmail hate? It is just a free eMail program. For farks sake I've had mine since, well I can't really remember anymore when I got that account and it has served me well as public eMail address and spam catcher.

Of course I also have several Yahoo, GMail, Charter, and other various eMail accounts I used to sign up for one peice of shiat thing or another.
 
2012-07-31 05:19:58 PM

mr lawson: is this the thread where we ask for an invite to gmail?


You laugh, but those were some dark days here on Fark.
 
2012-07-31 05:23:29 PM
LasersHurt: Guys, Hotmail hasn't changed yet.

I know what you're saying, but it sure has changed over the years, and not for the better. It used to be lean and fast and stable. It's gone downhill mostly steadily since MS bought it.

Outlook is a crumbly pile of crap with suspicious hairs sticking out of it, but . . . frankly, this "Outlook" upgrade to Hotmail looks like an actual upgrade. Wait and see, but I'm weirdly optimistic.

Gmail keeps getting crappier and crappier as they keep 'improving' it stupidly downward. If Hotmail actually becomes good again, that would not bother me at all.
 
2012-07-31 05:26:07 PM
Oh yeah? Well I still get email from my Excite account. And it sucks butts.
 
2012-07-31 05:27:27 PM
I've never stopped using hotmail.

Laugh all you want, shiat works.

Though the new truncated passwords are a small pain in my ass. I got so used to typing the one I had and now I have to count out 16 characters and freeze (my hands still want to finish the last 4 characters)
 
2012-07-31 05:27:47 PM

senorpogo: I've had an account since '98 and still use it regularly. I'm seriously considering abandoning it since Microsoft feels the need to prompt me to a tie a phone number to the account every single freaking time I log in.

NO MORE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU!


It's for password recovery. I've had my cell info in there for years and haven't got any telemarketing calls. They are probably tires of dealing with idiots who locked themselves out of their accounts and can't remember the recovery questions they set five years ago.
 
2012-07-31 05:31:39 PM
Windows 8, Office 15, and Windows Phone have all turned stale things into vibrant, modern successes. And Hotmail-now Outlook-can boast the same.

Aaaaaaaand I stopped reading.
 
2012-07-31 05:32:47 PM
I like it.
 
2012-07-31 05:32:48 PM
Kind of glad to have one with my actual name and one with Uwila - which Gmail deems too short to use.
 
2012-07-31 05:34:06 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Donnchadha: Did anybody else think they were reading an advertisement from Microsoft instead of an objective review article?

They would have had to pay iEngadget also Link
TheVerge Link


I'm not saying that nobody is allowed to write an objective review, but just that Gizmodo article seemed to parrot a bunch of talking points from the Microsoft press release (and yes, there was likely a press release that prompted all of these articles on launch day).

The one point that really sticks out is:

This is starting to look familiar to the point of predictability. Microsoft takes something boring, partially broken, and thoroughly entrenched: Windows, Office, Mobile. Toss nearly everything ugly and uninspired into the ash heap, put smart people to work on it, and pack it full of Metro. Windows 8, Office 15, and Windows Phone have all turned stale things into vibrant, modern successes. And Hotmail-now Outlook-can boast the same.

I was unaware that the as-yet-unreleased Windows 8 is a "vibrant, modern success" since it's been "pack[ed] full of Metro". It just reads like a talking point memo or a fanboy gone loony.
 
2012-07-31 05:34:12 PM

ZipSplat: Windows 8, Office 15, and Windows Phone have all turned stale things into vibrant, modern successes. And Hotmail-now Outlook-can boast the same.

Aaaaaaaand I stopped reading.


Yes, that was a dead giveaway that this was a paid promotional.

I still signed up for a new outlook account, just for the heck of it.
 
2012-07-31 05:35:52 PM

James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.


Not a bad idea. I wasn't really going to, but I grabbed my f­irs­t*l­a­s­tname[nospam-﹫-backwards]k­oolt­uo*com just in case it proves to be worth switching. At the very least, it'll be great for resumes.
 
2012-07-31 05:37:47 PM

LasersHurt: Guys, Hotmail hasn't changed yet. They're debuting it as "outlook." Go to outlook.com to check it out - it's in "preview" so none of this stuff has moved to hotmail proper yet.


It does scream, college students and small business owners.

Can't think why anyone else would use it.

/word
//make letters and shiat
///yo
 
2012-07-31 05:42:20 PM
Ha. I still have email in my hotmail inbox from 1998, so I'm getting a kick out of this headline

/no, seriously, I do
//well, technically it's in my "saved folder" to save it from the auto-pruners
 
2012-07-31 05:45:22 PM

emiliogtz: Am I missing something? Looks the same shiat to me.


Ya, either Gizmodo is 2 years behind in their reporting of 'news', or Hotmail hasn't updated with their new 'best' email service yet.
 
2012-07-31 05:46:50 PM

James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.


I just snagged my name too. In my opinion, having a random lettered gmail account is also pretty bad. This will do well for professional purposes.
 
2012-07-31 05:47:56 PM
Ive had my hotmail account since before they were owned by microsoft.

/but use gmail day to day
//should start ironically using my @aol.com address...
 
2012-07-31 05:49:07 PM
I just signed up and got a much shorter username than what I have to use for gmail.

I remember seeing in some Windows 8 screenshots that you need a Microsoft account to login. I wonder if the @outlook.com emails will work for that too.
 
2012-07-31 05:53:39 PM
My primary personal email is still Yahoo! Why? Because I'm an old man and I don't like change!
 
2012-07-31 05:55:30 PM

moralpanic: Ya, either Gizmodo is 2 years behind in their reporting of 'news', or Hotmail hasn't updated with their new 'best' email service yet.


You have to go to Outlook.com to get the new features and UI. After you visit, you'll see the same changes to hotmail.com
 
2012-07-31 05:55:35 PM
Can I use Outlook with Outlook.com?

/yo dawg...
 
2012-07-31 05:59:28 PM

plcow: James!: I just grabbed an @outlook that's just my name. I may switch over for that reason alone. The email address I thought was cool a decade ago isn't so cool anymore.

I just snagged my name too. In my opinion, having a random lettered gmail account is also pretty bad. This will do well for professional purposes.


Why not just buy your own domain name? They're about $5-$20/year depending on registrar and TLD (e.g. com, net, org, co.uk, etc.) and you never need to worry about addresses being unavailable. Much more professional than a free account. It also gives you provider-independence: don't like who provides your mail? Switch to a different provider while still keeping the same address. I've done just that for 13+ years and switched between 6 different mail providers (I've been with Google Apps since it started and remain quite satisfied) without changing my address or causing any disruption to mail service.

If you like Hotmail, you can even have them provide mail for your domain if you wish.

Having your own domain is much more professional than using a free mail provider's address.

/prefers domain registration through GANDI because they don't suck. They also provide DNS and mail hosting to names registered with them if one wishes.
//is a GANDI customer and free Google Apps user. I'm not paid or otherwise compensated for mentioning them.
 
2012-07-31 06:03:14 PM
Microsoft actually has some very attractive web apps. Their online flavor of Outlook (first since as the web interface to Microsoft Exchanges and now on Outlook.com) is damn nice. The Zune web interface software (think iTunes online) is nice. This new full featured online office program they're offering looks nice, it's main flaw is that its price exceeds that of Google's corporate accounts (although the MS office suite has more features).

Overall though the MS online space just doesn't feel as unified as Googles and costs more (and the extra features don't justify the cost to all those non power users out there). Still when MS tells me they made a kickass webapp I believe them. I just remain skeptical of their ability to make a kickass ecosystem of webapps and price it well.
 
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