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2012-07-31 03:42:59 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Regardless, the only punishment the players get is not being on TV. If this is so important to them they can transfer with no problems. They still get their scholarship. They still get to play football.


Penn State will still be on TV. Hell, College Gameday's a virtual lock to show up there this season.
 
2012-07-31 03:44:48 PM  

staplermofo: You guys see Joe as enabling the rape of children.
I see him sticking his neck out to help a friend continue having same-sex relations in a conservative work environment, from back when having same sex relations could get you driven out of town. It's easy now for us to say "the LGBT community does not support raping children", maybe even 10 years ago. But you know what, maybe it wasn't so clear earlier. Yeah, think about that. The Nation of Islam was always a black supremacist movement. Back in the 1960s you could hardly tell them from regular racial equality groups. Does that mean Malcom X didn't help advance racial equality? Should he be condemned instead of praised? No. And so it is with Joe. You call him a monster, I call him a hero.


Farkers would be throwing a shiatfit if Sandusky had been a woman and gotten the same sentence. I guess boys are only "victims" when the sex they are having is buttsecks. Apparently gay boys are like girls, in that they shouldn't be allowed to decide to have sex until they turn 18.
 
2012-07-31 03:46:17 PM  

LTRM35A2: bulldg4life: It's just not fair that PSU is being treated like this. Sure, it sucks for the dozen kids that were assf*cked by a coach for 15 years....but the current students, alumni, and football players are the real victims. Life is just so hard for them and the school is being admonished and penalized. It's just not fair.

Only the athletic program is being punished. Whenever someone starts with the whole "don't punish innocent students!" argument, they make it seem like the NCAA has directly and negatively effected the vast majority of people attending Penn State for non-football reasons.

They aren't closing and padlocking classrooms, they aren't demanding 4 year bans on certain professors from teaching, they aren't capping the number of diplomas you can hand out, nor are they invalidating ones already granted. The ONLY people "hurt" by this are those inside the athletic department, we can discuss that in another thread, but to simply say any touching of the football program immediately drags down the whole is hyperbolic.

It just goes to show how some people have so closely identified Penn State football with the rest of the institution that they simply cannot fathom the simple fact that they are NOT the same thing. And taking away athletic scholarships is not the same as if they went into the Earth and Mineral Sciences department and arbitrarily shut it down, but that's what it SOUNDS like whenever yet another overly devoted football fan feels that "innocent students" are somehow being punished.

Unless I missed something, you can still get your degree and graduate on the same terms now as when you enrolled, of course, the name "Penn State" on your diploma will carry some extra shame now, but, only a football-rootin' meathead of a future employer would hold that against you in the first place.


Needs to be read by 99 there.
Nothing about the SCHOOL is being hurt. Students can still get an education. No faculties are being shut down.

/college is more than sports.
 
2012-07-31 03:48:10 PM  

kronicfeld: Pennsylvania: Pittsburgh in the west, Philadelphia in the east, Alabama in-between.


Listen, let's just leave Alabama out of this clusterfark, how about it?
 
2012-07-31 03:48:35 PM  
get a grip Penn state people - realize who you are sticking up for.

sure, maybe he isn't
i2.kym-cdn.com

but he's that guy's best pal & that's bad enough.
 
2012-07-31 03:52:53 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Over? Over? Nothing is over till we say it's over. Was it over when Lincoln bombed Fort Sumpter?

[static8.businessinsider.com image 400x268]


Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the Pennsylvania State University. Gentlemen!
 
2012-07-31 03:55:35 PM  

Gosling: Rapmaster2000: Regardless, the only punishment the players get is not being on TV. If this is so important to them they can transfer with no problems. They still get their scholarship. They still get to play football.

Penn State will still be on TV. Hell, College Gameday's a virtual lock to show up there this season.


Huh, I thought they got the TV banishment. Then what the hell is this "punishment" crap? Some days it's embarrassing to be a sports fan.
 
2012-07-31 03:55:45 PM  

doubled99: gimmegimme

*sigh
So sorry for the flippant sentence in earlier post regarding dead Pa.
Paterno knew and was guilty too. fark him. Happy?

That said, I don't believe in any punishment for anyone not directly complicit in these crimes.


Soooo...Sandusky's grandchildren shouldn't be punished by having their grandpa taken away. OJ's children shouldn't be punished by having their daddy in jail. The Germans shouldn't suffer economic sanctions because of the actions of the Nazis...
 
2012-07-31 03:57:43 PM  

Rapmaster2000: doubled99: gimmegimme

*sigh
So sorry for the flippant sentence in earlier post regarding dead Pa.
Paterno knew and was guilty too. fark him. Happy?

That said, I don't believe in any punishment for anyone not directly complicit in these crimes.

That's how large organizations work. Your company gets sued and loses makes bad loans to stupid people or makes shiatty cars for decades that nobody wants? That money is gone, and the pool of potential money is smaller for everyone government will step in and give your company billions of dollars as a reward. Nothing new here.

Regardless, the only punishment the players get is not being on TV. If this is so important to them they can transfer with no problems. They still get their scholarship. They still get to play football.


FTFY
 
2012-07-31 03:57:51 PM  
The Freeh report had it wrong. It's not the Penn State culture. It's the Penn State cult.
 
2012-07-31 03:58:44 PM  
Penn State football fans don't care about child rape.

Unsurprising.
 
2012-07-31 03:58:46 PM  
I was hoping the NCAA sanctions would force PSU fans to gain some perspective, but apparently it's not working.

Damn, people!! Sandusky was RAPING pre-pubescent boys right under Pateno and the rest of the admin's noses. Not fondling, RAPING. And these weren't 16, 17 year olds. They were CHILDREN.

Screw it. Just bulldoze the whole campus to the ground, like Forrest Gump did to Jenny's dad's house.
 
2012-07-31 03:58:56 PM  

gimmegimme: The Germans shouldn't suffer economic sanctions because of the actions of the Nazis...


I just got an image of the NCAA calling Putin to offer Russia the eastern half of State College.
 
2012-07-31 04:00:17 PM  

algrant33: *scrolls up*
Does Pocket Ninja have a new alt or something?


I was going to go with spentmiles, as that post seemed more likely authored by him.

Krymson Tyde: Listen, let's just leave Alabama out of this clusterfark, how about it?


Seconded.
 
2012-07-31 04:04:29 PM  

gimmegimme: The Germans shouldn't suffer economic sanctions because of the actions of the Nazis...


They should definitely forced to pay reparations to the countries they've wronged. That way we'll ensure that it never happens again.
 
2012-07-31 04:06:43 PM  

doubled99: gimmegimme SmartestFunniest 2012-07-31 01:35:42 PM


Weaver95: *sigh*

Anywho, the article more than proves the point that PSU football's program is corrupt and that their entire institutional culture has to be FORCED to change.

My thought exactly. Penn State clearly hasn't gotten the message: the name on the front of the uniform is more important than the name on the back of the uniform. The Penn State culture still has not understood that you need to call the cops when you know about child rape. You don't give the child rapist a cash bonus and continued use of the rape



No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.
Horrible things happened in that town, but it's not farkin' Salem's Lot. Good things happen too. Like any place.
I'm sorry the asshole football player bullied you in school, but get the fark over it.


Here's my serious question to you:
Joe Pa worked closely with Sandusky for more than a decade. What makes you think the first time he was aware of what Sandusky was and what he'd done was AFTER MCQueary said something? As we know from the E-mail exchange between the College president and AD , Paterno's reaction to the McQueary allegations was not "that SICK FARK, I'll Farking skin him alive myself" or any other similar expression of suprise and outrage, but rather to talk the AD out of reporting Sandusky to the cops and let him go on his merry way scott-free, other than losing PSU shower privilieges.

This is NOT the reaction of a man having something that monstrous sprung on him, but the actions of someone who's been covering for someone for a long time
 
2012-07-31 04:07:28 PM  

gimmegimme SmartestFunniest 2012-07-31 03:55:45 PM


doubled99: gimmegimme

*sigh
So sorry for the flippant sentence in earlier post regarding dead Pa.
Paterno knew and was guilty too. fark him. Happy?

That said, I don't believe in any punishment for anyone not directly complicit in these crimes.

Soooo...Sandusky's grandchildren shouldn't be punished by having their grandpa taken away. OJ's children shouldn't be punished by having their daddy in jail. The Germans shouldn't suffer economic sanctions because of the actions of the Nazis...


What the fark are you babbling about? Do you just like to argue for it's own sake?
If so, do try to have some sort of logical point.


/never mind, keep frothing.
 
2012-07-31 04:07:34 PM  

umad: Rapmaster2000: doubled99: gimmegimme

*sigh
So sorry for the flippant sentence in earlier post regarding dead Pa.
Paterno knew and was guilty too. fark him. Happy?

That said, I don't believe in any punishment for anyone not directly complicit in these crimes.

That's how large organizations work. Your company gets sued and loses makes bad loans to stupid people or makes shiatty cars for decades that nobody wants? That money is gone, and the pool of potential money is smaller for everyone government will step in and give your company billions of dollars as a reward. Nothing new here.

Regardless, the only punishment the players get is not being on TV. If this is so important to them they can transfer with no problems. They still get their scholarship. They still get to play football.

FTFY


umad: staplermofo: You guys see Joe as enabling the rape of children.
I see him sticking his neck out to help a friend continue having same-sex relations in a conservative work environment, from back when having same sex relations could get you driven out of town. It's easy now for us to say "the LGBT community does not support raping children", maybe even 10 years ago. But you know what, maybe it wasn't so clear earlier. Yeah, think about that. The Nation of Islam was always a black supremacist movement. Back in the 1960s you could hardly tell them from regular racial equality groups. Does that mean Malcom X didn't help advance racial equality? Should he be condemned instead of praised? No. And so it is with Joe. You call him a monster, I call him a hero.

Farkers would be throwing a shiatfit if Sandusky had been a woman and gotten the same sentence. I guess boys are only "victims" when the sex they are having is buttsecks. Apparently gay boys are like girls, in that they shouldn't be allowed to decide to have sex until they turn 18.


Quit trying so hard.
 
2012-07-31 04:08:43 PM  

doubled99: No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.


Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.

God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.
 
2012-07-31 04:10:28 PM  
Yes, because we should all keep in mind that the real victim here is Joe Paterno.

The state of Pennsylvania should give the entire university the death penalty and start over.
 
2012-07-31 04:12:59 PM  

babysealclubber: Quit trying so hard.


Quit being a homophobe.
 
2012-07-31 04:13:06 PM  

Weaver95: MisterTweak: Let's store the statue somewhere safe, like... where's the biggest waste treatment facility in the area?

I think it's being moved to a secret location so that the Paterno cult can use blood sacrifice to bring Joe back to life.


So you're saying some PSU fans are off somewhere, offering blood....to the blood god?
 
2012-07-31 04:15:06 PM  

Nabb1: doubled99: No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.

Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.

God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.


You cant fight Penn-think man. You'll never reach em. They live by a whole nuther set of ethics that with any luck at all you will never be able to understand much less empathize with. They only feel bad that their ringleaders got caught.
 
2012-07-31 04:16:00 PM  
OK... 70,000 lobotomies it is then...
 
2012-07-31 04:16:30 PM  
Nabb1 2012-07-31 04:08:43 PM

doubled99: No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.

Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.
God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.




Hmmm. Sounds like you're saying everyone shouldn't be blamed for the actions of a few. Interesting point..
 
2012-07-31 04:16:43 PM  

Nabb1: doubled99: No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.

Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.

God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.


Well, I'm pretty ashamed of the part I played in covering up kiddie rape and you should be too.
 
2012-07-31 04:18:02 PM  

doubled99: Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.
God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.



Hmmm. Sounds like you're saying everyone shouldn't be blamed for the actions of a few. Interesting point..



No, he's saying that the people who still worship a sick fark who helped cover up kiddie rape don't help the situation.
 
2012-07-31 04:18:42 PM  

KingPsyz: OK... 70,000 lobotomies it is then...


too late
 
2012-07-31 04:19:52 PM  

verbaltoxin: Weaver95: MisterTweak: Let's store the statue somewhere safe, like... where's the biggest waste treatment facility in the area?

I think it's being moved to a secret location so that the Paterno cult can use blood sacrifice to bring Joe back to life.

So you're saying some PSU fans are off somewhere, offering blood....to the blood god?


Khorne!
 
2012-07-31 04:22:09 PM  
Dear Penn State.
Eat anus.
 
2012-07-31 04:23:16 PM  
1000 PSU football players all agree that they are glad they never had to wear their names in public now.
 
2012-07-31 04:23:30 PM  
I can no longer be shocked by anything a bunch of PSU football fans and Joe Pa acolytes say or do. I can also no longer give a shiat any longer about your crappy school and football squad.
 
2012-07-31 04:24:51 PM  

litespeed74: Dear Penn State.
Eat anus.


Dont encourage them. Theyve ruined plenty of colons already.
 
2012-07-31 04:25:39 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: MisterTweak: Let's store the statue somewhere safe, like... where's the biggest waste treatment facility in the area?

Screw that. Re-erect it in the middle of Centralia, PA.


How about 30' under Centralia?
 
2012-07-31 04:25:46 PM  
Penn State won't be happy until the new head coach takes over.

images.dakkadakka.com
 
2012-07-31 04:26:30 PM  

doubled99: Nabb1 2012-07-31 04:08:43 PM

doubled99: No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.

Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.
God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.



Hmmm. Sounds like you're saying everyone shouldn't be blamed for the actions of a few. Interesting point..


You know, there's probably nothing I could say at this point that hasn't been said, perhaps not in the exact same words, but at least in substance, that hasn't been said time and again in all of these threads, and at this point I have to assume that if you do not get it, it is because you are choosing not to get it. Yes, the cultish obsession with football above all else, the insulation of the program and the placement of it on a pedestal were the root of the problem. You people make LSU fans seem totally sane and that's saying something.
 
2012-07-31 04:27:49 PM  

mikaloyd: 1000 PSU football players all agree that they are glad they never had to wear their names in public now.


Some of them. But then you have idiot savants like Franco Harris.
 
2012-07-31 04:30:15 PM  

ha-ha-guy: I'm at the point where I'm starting to worry some jackass PSU fan is going to start something in a stadium or something and lead to a riot. A lot of them feel like the rest of the B1G farked them by siding with the NCAA on this and next thing you know they'll go after a rival fan at a tailgate or a stadium and provoke a response.

/maybe we'll get lucky and shiat will start at Camp Randall
//drunk Wisconsin fans are mean motherfarkers


Unfortunately the Badgers play at PSU this year.
 
2012-07-31 04:35:59 PM  

mikaloyd: KingPsyz: OK... 70,000 lobotomies it is then...

too late


they can still figure out how to log onto facebook, another pass from the drill should do the trick
 
2012-07-31 04:37:20 PM  
HBO sports drew some comparisons to the hazing death at FAMU.
 
2012-07-31 04:42:57 PM  

Nabb1: You people make LSU fans seem totally sane and that's saying something.


SEC coaches don't hang around long enough anymore for this to happen to.
 
2012-07-31 04:49:25 PM  

Phil Ken Sebben: LTRM35A2: bulldg4life: It's just not fair that PSU is being treated like this. Sure, it sucks for the dozen kids that were assf*cked by a coach for 15 years....but the current students, alumni, and football players are the real victims. Life is just so hard for them and the school is being admonished and penalized. It's just not fair.

Only the athletic program is being punished. Whenever someone starts with the whole "don't punish innocent students!" argument, they make it seem like the NCAA has directly and negatively effected the vast majority of people attending Penn State for non-football reasons.

They aren't closing and padlocking classrooms, they aren't demanding 4 year bans on certain professors from teaching, they aren't capping the number of diplomas you can hand out, nor are they invalidating ones already granted. The ONLY people "hurt" by this are those inside the athletic department, we can discuss that in another thread, but to simply say any touching of the football program immediately drags down the whole is hyperbolic.

It just goes to show how some people have so closely identified Penn State football with the rest of the institution that they simply cannot fathom the simple fact that they are NOT the same thing. And taking away athletic scholarships is not the same as if they went into the Earth and Mineral Sciences department and arbitrarily shut it down, but that's what it SOUNDS like whenever yet another overly devoted football fan feels that "innocent students" are somehow being punished.

Unless I missed something, you can still get your degree and graduate on the same terms now as when you enrolled, of course, the name "Penn State" on your diploma will carry some extra shame now, but, only a football-rootin' meathead of a future employer would hold that against you in the first place.

Needs to be read by 99 there.
Nothing about the SCHOOL is being hurt. Students can still get an education. No faculties are being shut down.

/college is ...


Also, people who claim you can't punish an institution are clearly outright ignoring the jurisprudence of the fact that under the law, corporations and other entities are "people" and can and have been punished as such. Both civilly and criminally. Remember, they tried the Ford Motor Company for criminal negligence, not just civil, in the wake of the Pinto scandal.

And for that matter, every punishment has fallout that will affect "innocent" parties. Every company that implodes under pyramid-scheme scandals takes hundreds of jobs from innocent employees when it goes down. Does that mean it's unfair to enforce banking regulations? Every person sent to jail loses whatever gainful employment they had prior to that, does that mean we can't send people to jail because we're being unfair to those who depended on their paycheck for their bread? Or how about the fact the IRS just lost a lot in tax revenue? They had NOTHING to do with the person's crime! How can we punish them?!

Punishment is supposed to be a deterrent to future bad behavior, if it doesn't sting, then it won't be effective. So yes, on a philosophical level I guess you could say it's unfair, but shouldn't the people to blame for that be the ones who, and this might be a stretch, knowingly broke the law?
 
2012-07-31 04:53:14 PM  

Nabb1
2012-07-31 04:26:30 PM

doubled99: Nabb1 2012-07-31 04:08:43 PM

doubled99: No, actually it's you and the frothing at the mouth masses here that don't get it. A guy raped children, and is in jail. Another guy maybe helped cover it up. He's dead. Other people involved in cover up are currently under investigation. That's it.
The rest of the university has nothing to do with it. Period. Their over-zealous defense of the school is perfectly normal when dealing with the horde of purely hysterical people calling for death penalties and the closing down of the university.

Oh, so it's everyone else's fault, not the cultish zeal that surrounded the football program that led to the cover up. DO YOU HEAR THAT, EVERYONE? IT IS ALL OUR FAULT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD.
God damn, we need to nuke that place from orbit.



Hmmm. Sounds like you're saying everyone shouldn't be blamed for the actions of a few. Interesting point..

You know, there's probably nothing I could say at this point that hasn't been said, perhaps not in the exact same words, but at least in substance, that hasn't been said time and again in all of these threads, and at this point I have to assume that if you do not get it, it is because you are choosing not to get it. Yes, the cultish obsession with football above all else, the insulation of the program and the placement of it on a pedestal were the root of the problem. You people make LSU fans seem totally sane and that's saying something.



What people? jesus christ this issue has the exact same irrational tone as some retarded lib/con debate where everything is an intractable black/white issue.
I haven't the least affiliation or rooting interest in Penn Stae.

Iwas as disgusted and angry as anyone at the crimes. I want jail for all the people who covered up.
The only goddamn thing I disagree with is the elimination of the football program entirely,
,mostly because of the many people and businesses hurt who I feel had no part in it.
I see the disagreement with this, but exactly how is it some insane opinion that immediately paints me as your idelalogical enemy and champion of pedophiles?
 
2012-07-31 04:53:18 PM  
Sooner or later they have to wrap their heads around the fact that they're on the wrong side of history.
 
2012-07-31 04:57:59 PM  

LTRM35A2: They had NOTHING to do with the person's crime! How can we punish them?!


And the weird thing is, that's not even what's happening here. No one that wasn't involved IS being punished. The athletes can leave without penalty. If they don't want to leave but don't want to play anymore, Penn State still has to let them attend on scholarship. No one that was uninvolved is being fired. As for the fines, an institution is absolutely liable for the conduct of its employees, which, short of murder/genocide was about as bad as it could be, so yeah it's gonna get punished. It blows my mind that Penn State alums and students can even stretch their imaginations enough to consider that they are perhaps, MAYBE, victims in this whole thing, much less wholeheartedly believe it. Disgusting.
 
2012-07-31 04:58:20 PM  

doubled99: Iwas as disgusted and angry as anyone at the crimes. I want jail for all the people who covered up.
The only goddamn thing I disagree with is the elimination of the football program entirely,
,mostly because of the many people and businesses hurt who I feel had no part in it.
I see the disagreement with this, but exactly how is it some insane opinion that immediately paints me as your idelalogical enemy and champion of pedophiles?


Then why are you pissed? The football program was not eliminated. You got what you wanted.
 
2012-07-31 05:00:04 PM  

staplermofo: You guys see Joe as enabling the rape of children.
I see him sticking his neck out to help a friend continue having same-sex relations in a conservative work environment, from back when having same sex relations could get you driven out of town. It's easy now for us to say "the LGBT community does not support raping children", maybe even 10 years ago. But you know what, maybe it wasn't so clear earlier. Yeah, think about that. The Nation of Islam was always a black supremacist movement. Back in the 1960s you could hardly tell them from regular racial equality groups. Does that mean Malcom X didn't help advance racial equality? Should he be condemned instead of praised? No. And so it is with Joe. You call him a monster, I call him a hero.


This is, of course, sarcasm (?), but don't be surprised if, like some Onion articles, it becomes an accepted argument as time progresses.
 
2012-07-31 05:00:45 PM  

sweetmelissa31: kingoomieiii: /Penn state should have been excluded from all football events for 20 years
/Fark alums, fark current students, fark PA

It's just insane to see how alums are behaving. I have about 5 acquaintances on facebook who went to Penn State. All of them have been posting about how they're being oppressed over this. Not one of them seems to care about what actually happened; the most important thing to them is their school pride. I might be a little biased because I've never watched college football and completely don't care about it. But child rape seems slightly more important.


You should really press them to find out exactly how they are being oppressed by this. For example are they being denied job opportunities because they are Penn State alums, are they being ridiculed in the streets for being alums, are they being denied any type of service because they are alums, are they being made to be second class citizens because they are alums? You may be shocked to find out that none of that is happening to them.

However you may find that they are being ridiculed and alienated because they keep trying to defend people that actively conspired to coverup child rape and think that there shouldn't be any punishment for it. But that isn't being oppressed for what happened at Penn State. That is just being rightfully ridiculed for having your head up your ass.
 
2012-07-31 05:01:45 PM  

sweetmelissa31: A friend who went to Penn State posted this huge diatribe about how the media should be ashamed of themselves for the way they've treated Penn State. It concluded with:

I guess creating a mockery of our school sells more papers, huh? Well jokes on you. Come the Olympics our 19 students/alumni will medal. Come school year our students will wear PSU colors proud. Come football season we will pack the stadium and cheer for our team. We are Penn State... and you 'were' wrong!

Get over yourselves. Winning a medal doesn't change what happened.


PSU fans have replaced every SEC fanbase as holders of the moron kings.
 
2012-07-31 05:02:45 PM  
I believe this is the building they were looking for:

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