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2012-07-31 11:07:52 AM
9 votes:
I'll bet this guy's got a fine frisbee collection on his roof.
2012-07-31 11:23:32 AM
7 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: RembrandtQEinstein: What gives them the right to disturb me to try to sell me useless shiat?

Useless? The dude was selling STEAK.


I came home once to find a crate of that stuff in my living room and my dog with this sh*t eating smile on her little fuzzy face. Never going to leave my credit card so low to the ground and unattended again.
2012-07-31 11:05:16 AM
7 votes:
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2012-07-31 10:25:31 AM
7 votes:

scottydoesntknow: I have honest-to-god never heard a person say "YOU SHOT ME!" in anything other than an antagonistic/hostile manner.


How many people have you heard saying this?
2012-07-31 11:04:47 AM
6 votes:
If only the victim had been carrying a loaded assault rifle, this would never have happened.
2012-07-31 12:35:45 PM
4 votes:
"I say my good man, I seem to have intercepted the bullet you fired from your pistol. So sorry bout that. This gaping hole in my gut is causing not a small amount of discomfort. Could I trouble you to finish me off?"
2012-07-31 11:12:38 AM
4 votes:
So, he became a door-to-floor salesman.
2012-07-31 11:08:49 AM
4 votes:
Perillo said the children, between the ages of 4 and 8, would ride their bikes up and down the street.

"He kept saying if they step foot on my property, they're trespassing," she said.

Each time, officers came and talked to the man and told him the kids were allowed to play in the street, she said.



Not entirely sure why he remained free the first couple times, after telling police he would shoot children.

At least bail was denied.

Wouldn't that be fun for the judge to tell him 'Just think about your home, unguarded. Maybe there are police, or thieves, going through your things. Walking all over your yard. Maybe they left all the doors wide open. Right now. Who knows what's going on there now?'
2012-07-31 10:36:23 AM
4 votes:

wxboy: scottydoesntknow: I have honest-to-god never heard a person say "YOU SHOT ME!" in anything other than an antagonistic/hostile manner.

How many people have you heard saying this?


I've watched quite a few movies

www.wearysloth.com

Mustafa: You shot me!
Mustafa: You shot me right in the arm!
2012-07-31 11:36:43 AM
3 votes:
They bring a frozen steak, you bring a gun.

They put you on a mailing list, you put them in the morgue!

That's the Florida way!
2012-07-31 11:11:57 AM
3 votes:
So gun-grabbers, explain to me how this situation couldn't have been avoided by the salesman also carrying? Dude was a fool for not packing heat. You never know when some lunatic's gonna stand his ground in the most lethal manner possible.

An armed society is a polite society.
2012-07-31 11:10:45 AM
3 votes:
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2012-07-31 01:40:40 PM
2 votes:

Wow! That shooter dude is CRAZY!

The guy was selling steak and lobster, but he could have been selling anything - even cosmetics!



media.tumblr.com

JUSTICE FOR AVON!
2012-07-31 11:54:55 AM
2 votes:
Never bring a surf and turf dinner to a gun fight.
2012-07-31 11:36:57 AM
2 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com

BAM! BAM! BAM!

I felt threatened.
2012-07-31 11:24:45 AM
2 votes:

Dear Jerk: The right to keep and bear arms implies a limit of two.


www.missfidget.com

disagrees.
2012-07-31 11:23:09 AM
2 votes:
This never happened to the salesmen in The Music Man.
2012-07-31 11:17:35 AM
2 votes:
Allow the victim's next of kin to shoot this asshole twice in the back of the head, and take possession of his house for reparation.

Done.
2012-07-31 11:11:29 AM
2 votes:
A door to door lobster salesman once sent his army of trained attack lobsters after my family. This is a perfectly reasonable response.
2012-07-31 11:09:56 AM
2 votes:
The right to keep and bear arms implies a limit of two.
2012-07-31 11:00:25 AM
2 votes:
It's good to know that the Stand Your Ground law is only being applied in completely reasonable circumstances, and is in no way encouraging people to shoot other people because they feel like they are backed by the law.
2012-07-31 10:58:52 AM
2 votes:
Roop told detectives Rainey should have respected his three "No Trespassing" signs

There's a new neighbor on my street who has posted "PRIVATE PROPERTY" signs in his front yard. I don't get it.
2012-07-31 10:33:36 AM
2 votes:
Yeah, but, come ON! Who *hasn't* wanted to shoot a door-to-door salesman at least once in their lives?
2012-07-31 03:04:18 PM
1 votes:

NightOwl2255: Cupajo: Guns, on the other hand, can be purchased at any gun show in the country without so much as a "you're not a felon, are you?"

When I bought a gun at the gun show, they did the back ground check just like when buying one at BassPro.


Damn dude, they sell guns at your car audio place?
2012-07-31 12:41:05 PM
1 votes:
Okay you guys, you are REALLY slipping. So here you go:

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2012-07-31 12:26:59 PM
1 votes:

Alonjar: Now that I carry every day, Im not afraid of a farking thing.


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2012-07-31 12:24:12 PM
1 votes:

Alonjar: TyrantII: Guns are a means of last ditch effort in very bad situations. Thinking being armed is protecting yourself is foolish. It's akin to wearing a seat-belt in a 100mph crash. If you get lucky, it allows you the opportunity of better protection. Lucky being the key word. A gun isn't a shield.

Honestly, the best thing is to just accept that some things are out of your control, and horribly random; worrying and obsessing about them is not healthy. Is life worth it if you're paranoid and full of fear of it being taken away? Not in my book.

I had two crack heads force their way into my apartment and rob me at gunpoint after knocking on my door. I could see the bullet sitting in the chamber down the barrel of the gun. The guy had it pointed directly at my face, and his hands were shaking like he was farking Michael J Fox (drug withdrawal I assume). At any point in time, he could have twitched wrong and I'd be dead. There were plenty of opportunities that I could have shot them both during the event while their focus was on loading all my stuff into duffel bags, if I had it on me, rather than locked in a gunsafe.

I lived, and was not shot. Does that mean that if someone robs me again, I should just let them do whatever they want, because hey... what are the odds they're going to kill me this time? As long as I cooperate, a fiending crackheads shaky hand isnt going to pull that trigger, right? I mean, a drug addict who chooses to perform an armed home invasion is a very logical person, wouldnt you say? So I should be logical with them?

fark no. I answer my door with a gun in my hand now (although I dont let you see it), and I wear a concealed weapon on me when I go out. I got lucky. Thats all. The dice got thrown and I lived. I do not intend to gamble with my life ever again.

Why do I live my life in terror? I dont. Now that I carry every day, Im not afraid of a farking thing.


Also bro, by carrying a gun everyday, you pretty much admit to being in fear.

How it works

Phase 1 : Wake up
Phase 2 :"shiat I'M SCARED WHERE IS MY GUN"
Phase 3: Profit.

Holy shiat guys. We just found the answer to ???? as phase 2.
2012-07-31 12:22:10 PM
1 votes:

Alonjar: TyrantII: Guns are a means of last ditch effort in very bad situations. Thinking being armed is protecting yourself is foolish. It's akin to wearing a seat-belt in a 100mph crash. If you get lucky, it allows you the opportunity of better protection. Lucky being the key word. A gun isn't a shield.

Honestly, the best thing is to just accept that some things are out of your control, and horribly random; worrying and obsessing about them is not healthy. Is life worth it if you're paranoid and full of fear of it being taken away? Not in my book.

I had two crack heads force their way into my apartment and rob me at gunpoint after knocking on my door. I could see the bullet sitting in the chamber down the barrel of the gun. The guy had it pointed directly at my face, and his hands were shaking like he was farking Michael J Fox (drug withdrawal I assume). At any point in time, he could have twitched wrong and I'd be dead. There were plenty of opportunities that I could have shot them both during the event while their focus was on loading all my stuff into duffel bags, if I had it on me, rather than locked in a gunsafe.

I lived, and was not shot. Does that mean that if someone robs me again, I should just let them do whatever they want, because hey... what are the odds they're going to kill me this time? As long as I cooperate, a fiending crackheads shaky hand isnt going to pull that trigger, right? I mean, a drug addict who chooses to perform an armed home invasion is a very logical person, wouldnt you say? So I should be logical with them?

fark no. I answer my door with a gun in my hand now (although I dont let you see it), and I wear a concealed weapon on me when I go out. I got lucky. Thats all. The dice got thrown and I lived. I do not intend to gamble with my life ever again.

Why do I live my life in terror? I dont. Now that I carry every day, Im not afraid of a farking thing.


Go see a shrink and stop being a pussy, you pussy.
2012-07-31 12:10:22 PM
1 votes:
Deadly force against door-to-door solicitors is entirely unjustified. The only solicitors against who deadly force is justified are email spammers.
2012-07-31 12:04:44 PM
1 votes:

RembrandtQEinstein: Too bad dude wasn't a better shot. Door spammers are scumbags and bad things should happen to them.

What gives them the right to disturb me to try to sell me useless shiat? fark then.

There needs to be a national do-not door-spam list, with a private right of action against anyone who tries to market to you from your doorstep.


It sounds like solicitors are causing a lot of headaches for you. You should consider petitioning the government for the right to not answer your door if you don't feel like it.
2012-07-31 12:01:56 PM
1 votes:

RivenSilver: 3 no tresspassing signs. 3 no tresspassing signs. 3 no tresspassing signs. 3 no tresspassing signs.

Siding with the shooter here.


4 extra esses. 4 extra esses. 4 extra esses. 4 extra esses.

not siding with the moron here.
2012-07-31 11:58:35 AM
1 votes:
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/Bus to Hell is now boarding
2012-07-31 11:46:34 AM
1 votes:

ScienceRocks: I don't know, this reminds me of guy on my block here in Colorado. Just saw the "for sale" sign go up, and we couldn't be happier.


We have one on my street, in the cul-de-sac section (obviously). He has had to speak to the police on multiple occasions regarding his harassment of passers-by and scrawling threats along the sidewalk (with his kids' pastel chalk). His wife is really sweet, though kinda throws off a very strong "I get beaten regularly" vibe. It was nice that he recently stopped flying the Gadsen flag and put up the stars and stripes, though.

The real shocker is that he's a short, bald, white, 40-something. Did not see that coming.
2012-07-31 11:41:07 AM
1 votes:

RembrandtQEinstein: There needs to be a national do-not door-spam list, with a private right of action against anyone who tries to market to you from your doorstep.


I have to say, a whole lot of my sympathy eroded when I read what this guy was doing, but the shooter didn't even get disturbed as he rolled into the driveway after the salesman had walked away from his door.

qorkfiend: Yes, that's right. This guy executed an unarmed man in his driveway.


That is the new thing in Florida these days. I've been informed that this keeps the terrorists from winning.
2012-07-31 11:40:14 AM
1 votes:

crab66: Alonjar: crab66: Typical paranoid gun nut.

Actually, I find your statement to be entirely illogical, as this guy was not in the least bit typical. As a matter of fact, he's about as far outside the normal spectrum as it gets.

...but hey, keep on projecting your world view.

You have a small penis.


Your evident obsession with Alonjar's sexual organs is of no relevance to the current discussion.
2012-07-31 11:38:56 AM
1 votes:

crab66: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 275x400]

BAM! BAM! BAM!

I felt threatened.


EHRMARGERD, GRRL SCRT COORKERS!11

/just learned that meme yesterday
2012-07-31 11:32:42 AM
1 votes:
I submitted this a couple days ago, receiving a "bad kitty, this has already been submitted and redlit" with the headline "Did you hear the one about the traveling salesman?"
2012-07-31 11:31:37 AM
1 votes:

RivenSilver: 3 no tresspassing signs. 3 no tresspassing signs. 3 no tresspassing signs. 3 no tresspassing signs.

Siding with the shooter here.


You're siding with someone who shot an unarmed man in the back of the head because he had a "No Trespassing" sign? Since when does having a "No Trespassing" sign make you judge, jury, and executioner?
2012-07-31 11:31:34 AM
1 votes:

RembrandtQEinstein: Too bad dude wasn't a better shot. Door spammers are scumbags and bad things should happen to them.

What gives them the right to disturb me to try to sell me useless shiat? fark then.

There needs to be a national do-not door-spam list, with a private right of action against anyone who tries to market to you from your doorstep.


Your fark handle is in error.
2012-07-31 11:24:46 AM
1 votes:
Not to defend the guy's abhorrent crime, but don't come to my door trying to hock your steaks and lobster. I know where the Wal-Mart meat section is, thanks.
2012-07-31 11:24:30 AM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: This is the kind of thing I would like to hear about from the NRA.

Its only through good fortune that one of the little kids on his block didn't get gunned down for "trespassing" by riding their bikes on the street. He was tried once for threatening a meter reader with a gun, but got acquitted.

The local cops, the prosecutor who tried him, everyone on the block knows it is only a matter of time before some poor soul who doesn't know better is going to step on his property and pay for it with his life.

Yet, he owns 14 guns, and could buy as many more as he wants, perfectly legally. Hell, according to Scalia, it may abridge his 2nd amendment rights to prohibit him from owning a rocket launcher.

What do, NRA goons?


Honestly the NRA preaches stiff penalty for gun crimes. Maximum penalty at the least. That is when the action is criminal. Like this criminal. Lock him up. No friend of mine. I still think that pedophile that shot trayvon is innocent of murder but this nut job from the article needs to go. He's all yours Florida.

/NRA life member
//NRA shooting instuctor.
2012-07-31 11:23:09 AM
1 votes:

xanadian: Yeah, but, come ON! Who *hasn't* wanted to shoot a door-to-door salesman at least once in their lives?


Especially the meat and fish guys.
2012-07-31 11:20:31 AM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: telling police he was "in fear."

So that's it then, case closed. This is an innocent responsible legal gun owner that was standing his ground.


The poor baby. He should have had more guns, that would have made him feel safer.
2012-07-31 11:20:19 AM
1 votes:
He probably should have had a "no solicitors" sign instead. Salesmen usually respect those.
2012-07-31 11:19:19 AM
1 votes:

RembrandtQEinstein: What gives them the right to disturb me to try to sell me useless shiat?


Useless? The dude was selling STEAK.
2012-07-31 11:12:51 AM
1 votes:
So, "I was in fear" is the new "He's coming right at us!"

//just checkin'
2012-07-31 11:09:54 AM
1 votes:

muldoon: James!: If you pull a gun on a meter reader you should have your power shut off and your guns taken away.


He was "terrified"? Grow some farking balls.

I have seen meter readers, with a "uniform" of a blue tshirt with a small company logo, jump my back fence and just wander around the yard. No notification of them being there, just jump the fence and walk around. Not saying what he did was correct, but I can understand why a homeowner might investigate if they saw that.


Another reason why it's a good idea to go to wireless meters.

Of course, I imagine the people who are paranoid of meter readers are likely the ones who accuse wireless meters of being a UN plot to monitor our power consumption for the purposes of socialism and global domination.
2012-07-31 11:07:46 AM
1 votes:
I'm fairly certain this guy is well known on a fishing forum I frequent from time to time. Most of it is fine, but a certain corner of it is like Stormfront on bath salts. If this guy is who I think he is, shooting a trespasser dead has been his much talked about fantasy for a long time.

Sad thing is, there are thousands more like this asshole.
2012-07-31 11:07:26 AM
1 votes:

darwinpolice: Rapmaster2000: Roop told detectives Rainey should have respected his three "No Trespassing" signs

There's a new neighbor on my street who has posted "PRIVATE PROPERTY" signs in his front yard. I don't get it.

Do you live in Florida? Best respect the hell out of those signs, son.


IANAL, but it's my understanding that without a physical gate on the driveway itself, NO TRESSPASSING signs are not meant to include the driveway or any walkway to the front door. Precedent may be different in Florida, but there is a reasonable expectation that one can walk to a stranger's front door and not be assumed to be tresspassing.
2012-07-31 11:05:37 AM
1 votes:
telling police he was "in fear."

So that's it then, case closed. This is an innocent responsible legal gun owner that was standing his ground.
2012-07-31 11:05:31 AM
1 votes:
Wow.

How pathetic of a life do you have to lead to be so in fear that you shoot someone for simply walking towards you??

Good god, what is wrong with people today?
2012-07-31 11:04:33 AM
1 votes:
This is a messed up story, but I am sure that there will be pleanty of people to spin this into a reasonable incident, if not make the shooter out to be a hero. I assume the salesman was black, that is why the guy felt unsafe...
2012-07-31 11:04:23 AM
1 votes:
Why is it that these shooters believe that other people's lives are meaningless but their's are sacred?
I have no problem if the nutjobs pop themselves, as long as no one else is endangered.
2012-07-31 11:03:49 AM
1 votes:

darwinpolice: Rapmaster2000: Roop told detectives Rainey should have respected his three "No Trespassing" signs

There's a new neighbor on my street who has posted "PRIVATE PROPERTY" signs in his front yard. I don't get it.

Do you live in Florida? Best respect the hell out of those signs, son.


Doesn't matter. A homeowner with a "No Trespassing" sign is not automatically promoted to judge, jury, and executioner.
2012-07-31 11:03:32 AM
1 votes:
B-b-but Obama is gonna take all your guns !!!!1!!
2012-07-31 10:41:15 AM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: Yet, he owns 14 guns, and could buy as many more as he wants, perfectly legally. Hell, according to Scalia, it may abridge his 2nd amendment rights to prohibit him from owning a rocket launcher.


I'm curious as to why you think it could possibly matter how many he owns. He only needed to use one.

I think the more serious issue is that a man that was known to be mentally disturbed - and obviously so - had no problem getting guns.
2012-07-31 10:35:07 AM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: More and more of these nutjobs everyday and they always seem to be from Florida.


It's the heat. It addles their brains.
2012-07-31 10:23:34 AM
1 votes:
If you pull a gun on a meter reader you should have your power shut off and your guns taken away.


He was "terrified"? Grow some farking balls.
2012-07-31 10:07:04 AM
1 votes:
I suppose this poor guy who has to make a living selling door to door to nutjobs just paid the price of our freedom with his life? Is that it?
2012-07-31 10:07:01 AM
1 votes:
As Rainey drew within 4 feet, Roop grabbed his 9mm Glock from his pocket and fired once, striking Rainey in the shoulder, he told police. Rainey fell to the ground, screaming, 'You shot me,' in what Roop described as an "antagonistic" manner, according to the report.

I have honest-to-god never heard a person say "YOU SHOT ME!" in anything other than an antagonistic/hostile manner.

This guy needs to be put down. It was only a matter of time before he shot someone. I bet his life's dream has been to shoot someone, then along comes Mr. door-to-door steak-n-lobster salesman, and it's his dream come true.
2012-07-31 09:54:38 AM
1 votes:
Thanks Submitter. I've been wondering when this insane story would show up on Fark. Tried twice myself.

Death penalty is what I suggest for punishment. But they may argue he's just nutty about his Second Amendment rights.
 
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