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(Humans Invent)   The sound of a Harley Davidson engine is actually fake...the trademark roar is engineered in the lab   (humansinvent.com) divider line 181
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2012-07-31 10:05:41 AM
If your vehicle is louder than a city bus you're a f*cking douchebag. That goes for ricers and their fart cans, too.
 
2012-07-31 10:09:31 AM
One of these days I'm going to buy a Harley and modify it so it runs as quietly as possible just so I can see the shock, confusion, and disgust on other Harley riders faces.
 
2012-07-31 10:29:25 AM
Reading fail, dumbassmitter.

Tuning the intake and exhaust for the best sound is not "fake sound"

The new, $100,000 BMW M5 which plays a recorded soundtrack of "engine sound" so passengers and the driver think the engine is making sound, THAT'S fake.
 
2012-07-31 11:38:55 AM
So are a lot of the owners, what's your point
 
2012-07-31 12:02:59 PM
common knowledge?
 
2012-07-31 12:03:33 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: So are a lot of the owners, what's your point


Zing!
 
2012-07-31 12:04:59 PM
WTF?!
Harley Davidson, your company is built on a HOUSE OF LIES!

/longtime biker (2004 Honda CBR 600F4i
//ride safely, friends... And keep an eye for bikers, my cager neighbors :)
 
2012-07-31 12:06:32 PM
Figures.
Manufactured engine sounds for pretend bikes and poseur riders.

/And yes, most of them are about posing to create an image.
 
2012-07-31 12:06:39 PM

Timmy the Tumor: Reading fail, dumbassmitter.

Tuning the intake and exhaust for the best sound is not "fake sound"

The new, $100,000 BMW M5 which plays a recorded soundtrack of "engine sound" so passengers and the driver think the engine is making sound, THAT'S fake.


This. Someone the other day was biatching about how Lamborghini engine notes are "fabricated" in the shop by the way they construct the air and exhaust systems and their baffles. Uhm, if you build the parts to make a certain sound, that's called engineering. If you pump sound through the speakers, that's sound design.
 
2012-07-31 12:06:44 PM
Get a muffler you jackarses! People are trying to sleep!

*Hells Angels do a u-turn*

Um, good day gentlemen, would you happen to have some Grey Poupon? Um, bangup job at Altamont by the way. Um, OH WOW LOOK OVER THERE BEHIND YOU! Someone's old lady is flashing her fabulous cans!

*flees screaming like a little girl*
 
2012-07-31 12:07:17 PM

Krymson Tyde: One of these days I'm going to buy a Harley and modify it so it runs as quietly as possible just so I can see the shock, confusion, and disgust on other Harley riders faces.


Just buy a stock Harley. They are not that loud from the factory.
 
2012-07-31 12:10:35 PM
Hey, my DSLR still makes real shutter sounds because it has to mechanically move the mirror and open the shutter. On digital cameras that don't have a physical shutter, I find the sound irritating and unnecessary.

/Protip: in many cars the turn signal clicky sound will increase distinctly in speed if a light bulb on that side is burned out.
 
2012-07-31 12:13:15 PM

heypete: Protip: in many cars the turn signal clicky sound will increase distinctly in speed if a light bulb on that side is burned out.


/And the dashboard turn signal indicator light might actually stay on without blinking.
 
2012-07-31 12:14:34 PM
How come Harleys always sound like they are about to stall when idling?
 
2012-07-31 12:15:07 PM
I hate hiking at my favorite park, a good 2 miles from the nearest road and I can still hear the jackwagons riding their far-too-loud Harleys.
 
2012-07-31 12:17:15 PM
i563.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-31 12:20:49 PM
The roar of a Harley serves a great purpose on the freeways, they can never sneak into a blind spot.
 
2012-07-31 12:23:24 PM
i723.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-31 12:24:00 PM

heypete: /Protip: in many cars the turn signal clicky sound will increase distinctly in speed if a light bulb on that side is burned out.


While it may be a manufactured noise in some modern cars, the clicking noise is actually a thermal/mechanical switch:
static.ddmcdn.com

A resistive wire heats up when electricity flows, then allows for the mechanical spring system to open. After ~0.5 seconds, it cools enough and returns to the closed position, where the wire heats up again. In the case where a bulb is burnt out, the amperage changes, decreasing the time the resistive wire takes to heat up and the speed of the blinking will roughly double. It's a very reliable and cheap design.
 
2012-07-31 12:25:13 PM

Keyser_Soze_Death: [i723.photobucket.com image 640x400]


Thaaaank you.
 
2012-07-31 12:28:42 PM
LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES
 
2012-07-31 12:37:41 PM

grinding_journalist: Timmy the Tumor: Reading fail, dumbassmitter.

Tuning the intake and exhaust for the best sound is not "fake sound"

The new, $100,000 BMW M5 which plays a recorded soundtrack of "engine sound" so passengers and the driver think the engine is making sound, THAT'S fake.

This. Someone the other day was biatching about how Lamborghini engine notes are "fabricated" in the shop by the way they construct the air and exhaust systems and their baffles. Uhm, if you build the parts to make a certain sound, that's called engineering. If you pump sound through the speakers, that's sound design.


THANK YOU!

/Just had a nearly identical argument with a friend about a month ago
//although that's kind of strange... What are the chances of that?
 
2012-07-31 12:43:34 PM

Mr. Fuzzypaws: If your vehicle is louder than a city bus you're a f*cking douchebag. That goes for ricers and their fart cans, too.


Agreed... but you know what I saw while driving down a highway a couple of weeks ago... a motorcycle with it's headlamp that would pulsate very quickly. For a moment I though it to be a cop, but in time I confirmed that this was some sort of jackass thing that kept blinking in my mirror very brightly, and no matter how much I tried to get this guy off my tail, he didn't let up for miles.

For the first time in my life, I found something that actually trumped loud muffler pipes for a motorcycle.

At least with the windows closed and music loud enough, you can eventually ignore the loud pipe, but this light was unbelievably bright and irritating, I could not angle my mirror to not reflect it in my face, making it hard to drive and giving me an headache.
 
2012-07-31 12:45:30 PM

theorellior: LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES


But do they really need to be that farkin' obnoxiously loud?

hd.attentionwhore.jpg
 
2012-07-31 12:47:44 PM
Instead of sound why don't the engineers concentrate on reliability?
 
2012-07-31 12:49:45 PM

Krymson Tyde: One of these days I'm going to buy a Harley and modify it so it runs as quietly as possible just so I can see the shock, confusion, and disgust on other Harley riders faces.


Go electric!
 
2012-07-31 12:49:47 PM

MoronLessOff: Dead for Tax Reasons: So are a lot of the owners, what's your point

Zing!


Cue the guy wearing Harley Davidson branded clothing from head to toe trying to look tough.
 
2012-07-31 12:50:38 PM

theorellior: LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES


HD fan? At least we know you can count to potato potato potato thanks to your potato bike.
 
2012-07-31 12:55:16 PM
The Nissan 350/370Z and Infiniti G35/37 also have "fake" sounds. The exhaust is designed to give it its signature note.

At least major manufacturers haven't started selling cars with tips that go:

WOOO WOOOOO!!!
 
2012-07-31 12:58:24 PM

jjwars1: HD fan? At least we know you can count to potato potato potato thanks to your potato bike.


YOU CAGERS DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF FREEDOM WITH THE PULSING ENGINE UNDER YOU AND THE WIND IN YOUR BANDANNA. STAY IN YOUR BABY CARRIAGES YOU PUSSY DOUCHES.
 
2012-07-31 01:04:43 PM

theorellior: LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES


I hope you're joking.
 
2012-07-31 01:08:45 PM

heavymetal: MoronLessOff: Dead for Tax Reasons: So are a lot of the owners, what's your point

Zing!

Cue the guy wearing Harley Davidson branded clothing from head to toe trying to look tough.


I've had a few biker friends. One started on a V-Star and now rides a Big Dog. The other is a Harley guy. They both tell me Harley guys are the biggest arseholes when it comes to bikers.
 
2012-07-31 01:11:37 PM
My badass 45-year-old neighbor rides a hog. Those loud pipes save his life when he's out riding with his backwards Raiders hat and fashion weight leather Harley chaps. He also owns a Ford F350 which he only uses for driving to his job as a prison guard. He switched the muffler on the truck to make it literally three times louder than stock.
 
2012-07-31 01:16:00 PM
Wow, so sounding like shiat is a feature, not a bug?
 
2012-07-31 01:21:05 PM

Timmy the Tumor: Reading fail, dumbassmitter.

Tuning the intake and exhaust for the best sound is not "fake sound"


In subby's defense, the title of the article is "5 more fake sounds to fool you today". So not really a reading fail.
 
2012-07-31 01:22:29 PM

Sobrrr: The roar of a Harley serves a great purpose on the freeways, they can never sneak into a blind spot.


The sound projects backwards, so they actually can. "Loud pipes save lives" is a myth.
 
2012-07-31 01:25:24 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Figures.
Manufactured engine sounds for pretend bikes and poseur riders.

/And yes, most of them are about posing to create an image.


Hate to break it to you, sparky, but *most* bikes are about image. Sport bikes just as much as cruisers - there is absolutely zero benefit from the full fairing on a typical streetbike at typical street speeds.

And no, I don't ride a cruiser.

MoronLessOff:
I've had a few biker friends. One started on a V-Star and now rides a Big Dog. The other is a Harley guy. They both tell me Harley guys are the biggest arseholes when it comes to bikers.


Mostly the RUBs. But, hey, doctors and lawyers being assholes? Who ever would have thought?
 
2012-07-31 01:25:31 PM
FTA: However, despite Harley's extreme efforts to engineer the perfect motorcycle noise, it failed to trademark the sound, giving up a long running legal fight back in 2000.

www.antifeministtech.info
 
2012-07-31 01:26:34 PM

REO-Weedwagon: My badass 45-year-old neighbor rides a hog. Those loud pipes save his life when he's out riding with his backwards Raiders hat and fashion weight leather Harley chaps. He also owns a Ford F350 which he only uses for driving to his job as a prison guard. He switched the muffler on the truck to make it literally three times louder than stock.


Which just so happens to make it harder for him to hear bikes in the truck.
 
kab
2012-07-31 01:31:25 PM
Subby has terrible reading comprehension, and the rest of this thread is filled with some truly whiny biatches.
 
kab
2012-07-31 01:36:34 PM

skankboy: How come Harleys always sound like they are about to stall when idling?


Because (in a nutshell), both pistons share the same crankshaft pin, so there is an exaggerated gap between ignitions.
 
2012-07-31 01:43:04 PM

imfallen_angel: Agreed... but you know what I saw while driving down a highway a couple of weeks ago... a motorcycle with it's headlamp that would pulsate very quickly. For a moment I though it to be a cop, but in time I confirmed that this was some sort of jackass thing that kept blinking in my mirror very brightly, and no matter how much I tried to get this guy off my tail, he didn't let up for miles.

For the first time in my life, I found something that actually trumped loud muffler pipes for a motorcycle.


I understand the reasoning behind it, but I agree that it's really annoying and distracting for drivers. Not "oh look, it's a motorcycle, I should pay attention" distracting but "I'm no longer looking at the road ahead of me because of this jackhole behind me" dangerous distracting.

My classic Triumph does this, many old bikes do it naturally, as the rectifiers on the electrical generator don't spin fast enough to keep up the voltage for the headlight, which cause it to pulse in output. Modern bike guys decided they wanted this effect, so they do it artificially - making it much more noticeable and annoying.
 
2012-07-31 01:43:15 PM

theorellior: LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES


So do turn signals and driving the speed limit. So there's that to think about.
 
2012-07-31 01:44:45 PM

kab: skankboy: How come Harleys always sound like they are about to stall when idling?

Because (in a nutshell), both pistons share the same crankshaft pin, so there is an exaggerated gap between ignitions.


That, and they fire 45 degrees apart. And since it's a 4 cycle, it fires every other revolution of the crank. So you get BA-Bump on one revolution, and then a more or less silent revolution. And of course most people idle it down to about 750 rpm, which really accentuates that about to stall sound.

/'78 Shovelhead, 93 cid
//I'll let ya ride it if you can kick start it
 
2012-07-31 01:47:37 PM

kyoryu: Hate to break it to you, sparky, but *most* bikes are about image. Sport bikes just as much as cruisers - there is absolutely zero benefit from the full fairing on a typical streetbike at typical street speeds.

And no, I don't ride a cruiser.


I ride naked bikes, which have no windscreens or fairings. I assure you, at freeway speeds, the fairings do a lot to push the wind away from your body.

/looking for a good looking windshield for my 919.
//wind was killer on my 1600-mile Yellowstone ride last month.
 
2012-07-31 01:49:29 PM

kab: Subby has terrible reading comprehension, and the rest of this thread is filled with some truly whiny biatches.


I'm sorry

Sobrrr: The roar of a Harley serves a great purpose on the freeways, they can never sneak into a blind spot.


Call me crazy, but there's always the alternative of staying out of other vehicle's blind spots.
 
2012-07-31 01:50:24 PM

LittleSmitty: //I'll let ya ride it if you can kick start it


I work with a guy that says this, but would you honestly let someone try to start your bike?
 
2012-07-31 01:52:08 PM

REO-Weedwagon: My badass 45-year-old neighbor rides a hog. Those loud pipes save his life when he's out riding with his backwards Raiders hat and fashion weight leather Harley chaps. He also owns a Ford F350 which he only uses for driving to his job as a prison guard. He switched the muffler on the truck to make it literally three times louder than stock.


You lost me when you combined "badass" and "Raiders hat."
 
2012-07-31 01:54:10 PM

NashMcNash: theorellior: LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES

So do turn signals and driving the speed limit. So there's that to think about.


this this this

I hate when there is a group of riders and they ignore things like stop signs and other road courtesies. Oh there are 7 of us we should all go through the stop sign at the same time even when the intersecting trafic doesn't have to stop and they are forced to break impeading the flow of traffic and infuriating those around them.
 
2012-07-31 01:56:56 PM

Sobrrr: The roar of a Harley serves a great purpose on the freeways, they can never sneak into a blind spot.


theorellior: LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES


Not really. That might be a myth from days before cars were soundproofed, but I can rarely tell if someone on a motorcycle is next to me unless they're either RIGHT next to me, or their pipes are INTENSELY loud.

As a rider, just stay the fark out of peoples' blind spots. It's not that hard. If you can't do that you aren't competent to be on a bike. Loud pipes are extremely obnoxious. I really want some kind of legislation against them. Even if it were the case that loud pipes provided a safety benefit, you are choosing your vehicle. Danger is part of the package when riding a motorcycle.
 
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