Gosling: JerseyTim: What is he doing to get them?

Basically trying to kill the Egyptian and being the most reckless son of a biatch with a sword since Jack Churchill.

Can't it watch from work. :(

Is it just anger compounding into more anger? Common sight.

Egypt in the finals for fencing.

JorgiX: Best Koreans just in there to talk shiat and try to hurt US players now. A couple tackles weren't even close to the ball.

the more they hurt the U.S. players the less they'll be caned back home

bbfreak: was playing fine and then it just stopped for no reason.

it hung on me once while I was watching gymnastics for about 5 seconds.

good job USWNT!!

USA Argentina women's field hockey

ModernPrimitive01: USA Argentina women's field hockey

My daughter is at that event!

RE: the previous discussion about the Chinese swimmer and doping.

A few weeks back there was a Fark thread about one of our female weight lifters (the one whose brother is in the NFL) and someone in the thread posted a link to this long-ass article that was nominally about The US's lack of success in weight lifting but was really about how county's are, or can be, successful at particular sports at the Olympic/World Championship level. The author seemed to have a lot of experience with the US Olympic athletic community (he used to be a speed skater and before that worked out with our weight lifters).

One of his many, many points was that at that sort of level EVERYONE is doping. Doesn't matter the country or the sport, everyone is on something because you cannot be both clean and competitive, and that it has been this way sonce the 60s. Apparently, everyone knows this, and all the anti-doping efforts are really just a show to help overcome Americans' cognitive dissonance between demanding winners and hanging onto our Puritan belief thaf work ethic is all success requires. That anyone who dopes is just lazy and doesn't want to put the work in, and that all our good, clean American girls and boys can overcome any such cheatig through heart and hard work and eating their vegetables. The truth - according to this blogger guy - is that everyone dopes, even America, and everyone works their asses off, even China.

So, was the Chinese swimmer on something? Probably. Is Phelps and Lochte and Franklin? Probably.

/pardon the typos, doing this on my phone

midpoint: This is a potent mix of national pride and bitter past experience. This column provides evidence for the other side: LinkChina has got a good chance of finishing top of the medal table - by any ranking measure - and that is going to be difficult to accept for some.

Yeah, it was fairly obvious as soon as China settled in to the top of the medal table again the US would start with the accusations of doping regardless of any evidence. Which is especially funny from the country that really pioneered and developed doping in sport to a billion dollar science back in the day (and almost certainly still is king of doping technology, although most of it is likely concentrated in the main domestic sports rather than relatively less rich arenas like athletics and swimming).

soopey: Of course the Brits would play Blur at the fencing stadium.

they should play Depeche Mode or something considering it looks like they're playing in Tron

xria: midpoint: This is a potent mix of national pride and bitter past experience. This column provides evidence for the other side: LinkChina has got a good chance of finishing top of the medal table - by any ranking measure - and that is going to be difficult to accept for some.

Yeah, it was fairly obvious as soon as China settled in to the top of the medal table again the US would start with the accusations of doping regardless of any evidence. Which is especially funny from the country that really pioneered and developed doping in sport to a billion dollar science back in the day (and almost certainly still is king of doping technology, although most of it is likely concentrated in the main domestic sports rather than relatively less rich arenas like athletics and swimming).

I'm not sure what you are talking about...Track and Field hasn't even freaking started yet and the US is just behind China in medal count/gold medals. Next week is going to have a few auto-US golds in it, as well.
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Besides the doping nonsense, it is great to see Dan Patrick doing sportscenter-esque ping pong highlights. Although, I'm not sure that's what he wants to be relegated to in London

first time watching fencing, what's with the flashing lights on the masks?

ModernPrimitive01: first time watching fencing, what's with the flashing lights on the masks?

I know that white is an illegal touch. The red and green show which person touched first for scoring.

Women's field hockey is ridiculous. Some cutie pies though!

ModernPrimitive01: what's with the flashing lights on the masks?

Indicates a touch, when a fencer makes a touch the lights in their helmet light up.

What the hell was South Korea Doing there? Poking himself in the ass with Italy's sword?

Cato: many points was that at that sort of level EVERYONE is doping.

Funny thing is in most Olympic sports there's nothing around that would be of benefit to the athletes.

you would think the U.S. would be the best in field hockey given the popularity of Kevin Smith movies

JerseyTim: They're not showing the 200m butterfly on any of the TV channels, right? Just online?

if you mean the final, yeah, that won't be on TV until primetime

Swimming feed starting up.

Cato: RE: the previous discussion about the Chinese swimmer and doping.

A few weeks back there was a Fark thread about one of our female weight lifters (the one whose brother is in the NFL) and someone in the thread posted a link to this long-ass article that was nominally about The US's lack of success in weight lifting but was really about how county's are, or can be, successful at particular sports at the Olympic/World Championship level. The author seemed to have a lot of experience with the US Olympic athletic community (he used to be a speed skater and before that worked out with our weight lifters).

One of his many, many points was that at that sort of level EVERYONE is doping. Doesn't matter the country or the sport, everyone is on something because you cannot be both clean and competitive, and that it has been this way sonce the 60s. Apparently, everyone knows this, and all the anti-doping efforts are really just a show to help overcome Americans' cognitive dissonance between demanding winners and hanging onto our Puritan belief thaf work ethic is all success requires. That anyone who dopes is just lazy and doesn't want to put the work in, and that all our good, clean American girls and boys can overcome any such cheatig through heart and hard work and eating their vegetables. The truth - according to this blogger guy - is that everyone dopes, even America, and everyone works their asses off, even China.

So, was the Chinese swimmer on something? Probably. Is Phelps and Lochte and Franklin? Probably.

/pardon the typos, doing this on my phone

I read that tome and I agree for the most part. Still cracks me up there are cycling fans who will tell you with a straight face that armstrong has never doped. BUT HE'S THE MOST TESTED ATHLETE! Forget that basically his entire team has now been busted for doping at one point or another. But sure, I'll accept they were all dirty and the guy they were ferrying up the hill isn't.

/ps: all the guys later found out to be juicers passed lots and lots of drug tests too

Am I just being skeptical or does the French weight lifter seem like he's faking the tight hamstring injury to save himself the embarrassment of not being able to get the weights off the ground?

Two Cayman Islands swimmers in a semi here. Go Caymans.

Jamespoon: Am I just being skeptical or does the French weight lifter seem like he's faking the tight hamstring injury to save himself the embarrassment of not being able to get the weights off the ground?

It's not like the French to just give up.

JohnBigBootay: Cato: RE: the previous discussion about the Chinese swimmer and doping.

A few weeks back there was a Fark thread about one of our female weight lifters (the one whose brother is in the NFL) and someone in the thread posted a link to this long-ass article that was nominally about The US's lack of success in weight lifting but was really about how county's are, or can be, successful at particular sports at the Olympic/World Championship level. The author seemed to have a lot of experience with the US Olympic athletic community (he used to be a speed skater and before that worked out with our weight lifters).

One of his many, many points was that at that sort of level EVERYONE is doping. Doesn't matter the country or the sport, everyone is on something because you cannot be both clean and competitive, and that it has been this way sonce the 60s. Apparently, everyone knows this, and all the anti-doping efforts are really just a show to help overcome Americans' cognitive dissonance between demanding winners and hanging onto our Puritan belief thaf work ethic is all success requires. That anyone who dopes is just lazy and doesn't want to put the work in, and that all our good, clean American girls and boys can overcome any such cheatig through heart and hard work and eating their vegetables. The truth - according to this blogger guy - is that everyone dopes, even America, and everyone works their asses off, even China.

So, was the Chinese swimmer on something? Probably. Is Phelps and Lochte and Franklin? Probably.

/pardon the typos, doing this on my phone

I read that tome and I agree for the most part. Still cracks me up there are cycling fans who will tell you with a straight face that armstrong has never doped. BUT HE'S THE MOST TESTED ATHLETE! Forget that basically his entire team has now been busted for doping at one point or another. But sure, I'll accept they were all dirty and the guy they were ferrying up the hill isn't.

/ps: all the guys later found out t ...

I honestly would rather there be Doping out in the open. lets set what science can do for the human body. Dammit, I want to watch freaks of nature compete against each other for my entertainment while I sit in the comfort of my home. Doping just makes it more interesting. With the exception of giving testosterone to women, that's just gross.

The Muthaship: Jamespoon: Am I just being skeptical or does the French weight lifter seem like he's faking the tight hamstring injury to save himself the embarrassment of not being able to get the weights off the ground?

It's not like the French to just give up.

Not at all. Look at how they lost 360,000 with 2 million captured in fighting Germany in the Battle of France. Yep. just threw down their guns and ran away.

Wht the fark is going on in fencing?

WhyteRaven74: Cato: many points was that at that sort of level EVERYONE is doping.

Funny thing is in most Olympic sports there's nothing around that would be of benefit to the athletes.

Again, this was coming from an article written not by me but by someone who at least seemed to know his shiat.

He made a similar point to you about steroids in baseball - the key to any success is being able to hit the ball and steroids can't help that at all. What it CAN do is let someone survive the crazy MLB game schedule without injury, since one of the major effects of steroids is it helps the body heal. I would imagine the same effect would be in play helping an athlete train harder than would normally be possible without injury. You and I try and work out 8 hours a day for four years and our joints and tendons go to hell. Put someone on the juice and they can do that and reap all the benefits thereof. More batting practice = more skill even if the addsd strength doesn't do much else.

Cato: I would imagine the same effect would be in play helping an athlete train harder than would normally be possible without injury

Which in certain sports isn't a worry at all in the first place.

fruitloop: Swimming final...NBC spoilers time.

But it'll be so much more exciting trying to avoid spoilers for the next six hours!

JerseyTim: They're not showing the 200m butterfly on any of the TV channels, right? Just online?

CTV, if you can get it.

there their theyre: I honestly would rather there be Doping out in the open. lets set what science can do for the human body. Dammit, I want to watch freaks of nature compete against each other for my entertainment while I sit in the comfort of my home. Doping just makes it more interesting. With the exception of giving testosterone to women, that's just gross.

You and Iamright seem to have the same opinion on this. Me, I'm old. I just wish people didn't cheat. I'm gradually accepting that that may be an unrealistic desire to have.

JosephFinn: Look at how they lost 360,000 with 2 million captured in fighting Germany in the Battle of France. Yep. just threw down their guns and ran away

Look at how their destroyer surrendered to a Somali pirate rowboat with an outboard motor in 2010....

It was just a joke, and a trite one, but white knighting the great valor of the French military is an uphill battle, Joe.

I want to switch to swimming, I know I do... but weight lifting has captivated me.

Nice job ladies in swimming.

Schmitt with an Olympic record and gold, France silver, Australia bronze in women's 200 free.

Missy Franklin misses a bronze by 1/100th of a second. Great race by Schmitt.

JerseyTim: Stupid NBC feed kept crapping out during the 200m womens freestyle. They better not much up the butterfly.

Ditto, very annoying.

JerseyTim: Stupid NBC feed kept crapping out during the 200m womens freestyle. They better not much up the butterfly.

You've never heard of the freeze-in-mid-stroke-then-teleport-halfway-down-the-pool-going-the-oth er-direction stroke? For shame.

Phelps just misses it! Silver.