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(National Post)   Canadian army ad that compares building a canoe to working on a war ship is offensive to natives, probably because the birch bark that natives use to build canoes is far superior to the bark that Canadians use to build their war ships   (news.nationalpost.com) divider line 118
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2012-07-31 12:55:11 PM
I can see their point. It would have been much more effective to appeal to native recruits by showing them how high a balloon full of diesel fumes will get you. Much more relevant to the interests of Native youth.
 
2012-07-31 12:55:18 PM
Offending natives is like shooting fish in a barrel.
 
2012-07-31 12:56:28 PM

WhippingBoy: Offending natives professionally and permanently offended "activists" is like shooting fish in a barrel.


FTFY.
 
2012-07-31 12:58:00 PM
Haha @ subby.

/Canadian
//Glad I'm not AMURIKAN!!!!!!
 
2012-07-31 12:58:19 PM
"the bark that Canadians use to build their war ships"?

Duh! Everyone knows we use empty beer cans - not bark!
 
2012-07-31 12:59:09 PM
Now subby, our newer warships are built with a much stronger composite material more commonly called "Paper Mache"
 
2012-07-31 12:59:34 PM

oldfarthenry: "the bark that Canadians use to build their war ships"?

Duh! Everyone knows we use empty beer cans - not bark!


And it's "ship", not "ships".
 
2012-07-31 01:00:24 PM
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2012-07-31 01:00:45 PM
I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).
 
2012-07-31 01:01:36 PM
Oh... And perhaps piggybacking on America's maniacal defense budget is part of the reason I don't know there is a multi-year economic crisis going on except for the American and European news.....

Yet, I suppose.
 
2012-07-31 01:01:54 PM
Great, now we've got tens of pissed off Canadian aboriginals on our hands.
 
2012-07-31 01:03:37 PM
Jeez, don't go on the warpath, chief
 
2012-07-31 01:04:22 PM
Why not? Serving on a military base is like living in an igloo.
 
2012-07-31 01:05:56 PM

oldfarthenry: "the bark that Canadians use to build their war ships"?

Duh! Everyone knows we use empty beer cans - not bark!


Our ships just float over the torpedoes...
 
2012-07-31 01:05:58 PM

User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).


Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!
 
2012-07-31 01:07:19 PM
At least they didn't make a porno called

I've got a papoose stick it in my caboose...
 
2012-07-31 01:08:36 PM

Fano: Jeez, don't go on the warpath, chief


And don't get your headdress in such a knot that you end up going off the reservation.
 
2012-07-31 01:09:20 PM
Being politely offended and filing a docile complaint is what we do best!
 
2012-07-31 01:11:23 PM
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2012-07-31 01:11:57 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure most natives can relate to building a canoe in the same way that I can relate to building a canoe. Which is not at all.
 
2012-07-31 01:12:06 PM
I can see how this happened. They wanted to relate to something natives are good at. Choosing canoes might seem a little racist, but what other choices do they have?

"The Canadian Navy. All the paint thinner you can huff!"

"The government already pays you. Now you can do something useful in return."

"Hey, Navy guys are alcoholics too!"
 
2012-07-31 01:12:07 PM
Why is it a priority to make sure all ethnic groups are represented in the forces? If natives want to join they are free to do so and if they don't want to join that is okay too. Is there some kid out on a snowmobile somewhere drowning his sorrows in a box of cheap wine wishing he could join the navy but knowing it will never happen because he hasn't seen any natives on a recruiting poster? This is supposed to be the military not some feel good government P.R project.
 
2012-07-31 01:12:54 PM
CF has a navy?

WhippingBoy: And it's "ship", not "ships".


OIC.
 
2012-07-31 01:14:16 PM
The headline did not end up where I thought it would; subsequently, I laughed.
 
2012-07-31 01:16:37 PM

RTOGUY: Is there some kid out on a snowmobile somewhere drowning his sorrows in a box of cheap wine wishing he could join the navy but knowing it will never happen because he hasn't seen any natives on a recruiting poster?


Was about to say something from the American perspective, but then I remembered Canadian indians/Eskimos didn't get it as bad from the army. Some indians still serve with the American mil but it's rare b/c of that.
 
2012-07-31 01:20:06 PM

WhippingBoy: oldfarthenry: "the bark that Canadians use to build their war ships"?

Duh! Everyone knows we use empty beer cans - not bark!

And it's "ship", not "ships".


Paper mache, actually.

And we have 2, because we count the 1/25 scale test model as one.
 
2012-07-31 01:20:17 PM

Canadian army ad that compares building a canoe to working on a war ship is offensive to natives


Because it talks about "working"?
 
2012-07-31 01:21:17 PM
Do what they do in my town... put the recruiting station between the $5 pizza store and the head shop.
 
2012-07-31 01:22:12 PM
What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?
 
2012-07-31 01:24:44 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?


It'd be awesome to see what an F-22 could do to a fleet of native canoes.
 
2012-07-31 01:26:30 PM

RTOGUY: Why is it a priority to make sure all ethnic groups are represented in the forces? If natives want to join they are free to do so and if they don't want to join that is okay too. Is there some kid out on a snowmobile somewhere drowning his sorrows in a box of cheap wine wishing he could join the navy but knowing it will never happen because he hasn't seen any natives on a recruiting poster? This is supposed to be the military not some feel good government P.R project.


Probably part of the general recruiting drive. First nations are the fastest growing non-immigrant group of Canadians. So its not so much about making sure they're represented as it is about grabbing people out of an expanding demographic
 
2012-07-31 01:28:17 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?


I proud that we DIDN'T poison their blankets or send a genocidal egomaniac general to murder them.
 
2012-07-31 01:31:19 PM

DanZero: [www.demotivationalposters.org image 640x469]


I can't be alone in wanting to see that guy squeeze off a couple yards of .50 BMG out of that M2, can I?
He'd probably have to go full throttle on that trolling motor to just maintain position.
 
2012-07-31 01:33:59 PM
Canadian Army to First Nations: Oh, we're soary.
 
2012-07-31 01:36:58 PM
"offensive to the point of being comical," says a newly released report.

Why? Because it would require them to work.
 
2012-07-31 01:37:44 PM

oldfarthenry: User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).

Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!


I've always thought of Canada as one of those rare refuges of common sense. A safe place just a boat ride across the lake... I'm a little sad now.
 
2012-07-31 01:39:19 PM
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SEND IN THE AIR SUPPORT!
 
2012-07-31 01:39:25 PM

User1005273: oldfarthenry: User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).

Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!

I've always thought of Canada as one of those rare refuges of common sense. A safe place just a boat ride across the lake... I'm a little sad now.


No worries - we don't listen to them.
 
2012-07-31 01:40:45 PM

oldfarthenry: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?

I proud that we DIDN'T poison their blankets or send a genocidal egomaniac general to murder them.


You just took their children from them and put them in schools where you abused them, sterilized them, and intentionally infected them with disease.

/loves Canada
//can't stand the NDerP
 
2012-07-31 01:49:15 PM
I live by a reserve. Abandoned rusty cars everywhere!
8 year olds drive cars and they are allowed to. Police there grow and distribute marihuana
because there's no law against it. If you're not from that reserve and you're on it
you probably are in danger of being stabbed or mugged. Its like Deadwood, South Dakota before the government took it.
 
2012-07-31 01:50:39 PM

oldfarthenry: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?

I proud that we DIDN'T poison their blankets or send a genocidal egomaniac general to murder them.


Amherst was British, and we established in an earlier thread (after I made a major historical error, then figured it out and corrected myself, an admitted violation of Fark custom (the correcting-myself part)), that he ENCOURAGED the blanket thing, but there's a lot of question as to whether it ever happened; once incident is all that's known. (Smallpox spreads easily, and the natives up and down the Americas suffered terribly from the unfamiliar disease just from initial contact with Europeans.)
 
2012-07-31 01:50:44 PM

oldfarthenry: User1005273: oldfarthenry: User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).

Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!

I've always thought of Canada as one of those rare refuges of common sense. A safe place just a boat ride across the lake... I'm a little sad now.

No worries - we don't listen to them.


It comes in cycles... every so often people will forget the Horror That Is The NDP and stupidly, stupidly, stupidly vote them into power. They're out by the next election, but by that time their poison has spread somewhat and it takes years for the common sense to return.
 
2012-07-31 01:51:30 PM
Highroller48:

I just wanted to say I like your profile.

/carry on...
 
2012-07-31 01:52:37 PM

User1005273: oldfarthenry: User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).

Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!

I've always thought of Canada as one of those rare refuges of common sense. A safe place just a boat ride across the lake... I'm a little sad now.


we still have some of your Iraq war deserters here
maybe you can take them back?
 
2012-07-31 01:54:47 PM

Highroller48: WhippingBoy: oldfarthenry: "the bark that Canadians use to build their war ships"?

Duh! Everyone knows we use empty beer cans - not bark!

And it's "ship", not "ships".

Paper mache, actually.

And we have 2, because we count the 1/25 scale test model as one.


*snerk* My boyfriend was in the Navy, I showed him this thread and he laughed. Probably because he is from South Dakota and the Natives here are just as bad...
 
2012-07-31 01:56:59 PM

WhippingBoy: oldfarthenry: User1005273: oldfarthenry: User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).

Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!

I've always thought of Canada as one of those rare refuges of common sense. A safe place just a boat ride across the lake... I'm a little sad now.

No worries - we don't listen to them.

It comes in cycles... every so often people will forget the Horror That Is The NDP and stupidly, stupidly, stupidly vote them into power. They're out by the next election, but by that time their poison has spread somewhat and it takes years for the common sense to return.


actually you're talking about the "conservatives" or as I like to call them "ethical oil pimps"
 
2012-07-31 01:58:44 PM

ontariolightning: WhippingBoy: oldfarthenry: User1005273: oldfarthenry: User1005273: I'm just glad to know Canada has to deal with this shiat too (I'm from the US).

Hell, we have HERDS of permanently-offended special interest groups trotting across our barren tundra!

I've always thought of Canada as one of those rare refuges of common sense. A safe place just a boat ride across the lake... I'm a little sad now.

No worries - we don't listen to them.

It comes in cycles... every so often people will forget the Horror That Is The NDP and stupidly, stupidly, stupidly vote them into power. They're out by the next election, but by that time their poison has spread somewhat and it takes years for the common sense to return.

actually you're talking about the "conservatives" or as I like to call them "ethical oil pimps"


No, no. I'm talking about the NDP.
 
2012-07-31 01:58:48 PM
seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean
 
2012-07-31 02:01:17 PM
clean rivers and animals > enbridge pipeline oil spills

hey whipping boy may i mix oil in with your water? would you drink it?
 
2012-07-31 02:02:23 PM

ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean


Oh don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Conservatives. The only think they've got going for them is that they're not the NDP...
 
2012-07-31 02:04:15 PM

WhippingBoy: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Conservatives. The only think they've got going for them is that they're not the NDP...


the liberals are no better than the conservatives

the ndp are on the right side of the oil fight

most canadians don't want that pipeline to go through BC
 
2012-07-31 02:04:41 PM
Also the ad wasn't done in French, as well as English, which was the real crime.
 
2012-07-31 02:06:07 PM
This reminds me of a game of Civilization when some barbarian tribe tries to take out your capital city with like.. pikemen...

Accordingly, you take out that unit with a B-52.
 
2012-07-31 02:07:03 PM

Dynascape: This reminds me of a game of Civilization when some barbarian tribe tries to take out your capital city with like.. pikemen...

Accordingly, you take out that unit with a B-52.


That seems like overkill when a Gatling gun--19th-century or modern--would do just as well.
 
2012-07-31 02:07:37 PM

MythDragon: Also the ad wasn't done in French, as well as English, which was the real crime.


It should have been done is some near-dead native language consisting entirely of consonants.
 
2012-07-31 02:10:21 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Dynascape: This reminds me of a game of Civilization when some barbarian tribe tries to take out your capital city with like.. pikemen...

Accordingly, you take out that unit with a B-52.

That seems like overkill when a Gatling gun--19th-century or modern--would do just as well.


As long as Tom Cruise and his samurai friends get shot, Im cool.

I love any movie where Tom Cruise gets shot repeatedly after really bad acting. See: Valkyrie.
 
2012-07-31 02:14:57 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

I was gonna post that cartoon of the guy who is about to make a point, changes his mind, then walks away... but I can't find it! Can someone help me out?
 
2012-07-31 02:17:05 PM

ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean


Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?
 
2012-07-31 02:24:58 PM

SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?


selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas
 
2012-07-31 02:27:35 PM
Just look at what Chinas doing with the south china sea.. claiming EVERYTHING even the areas that belong to other countries

this country is not a country you want owning land on your country

i'd rather be owned by america than china
 
2012-07-31 02:38:25 PM

ontariolightning: Just look at what Chinas doing with the south china sea.. claiming EVERYTHING even the areas that belong to other countries

this country is not a country you want owning land on your country

i'd rather be owned by america than china


Imagine how the First Nations must feel. Some military could be urging you to join up by suggesting your skill at boiling maple syrup is exactly what it takes to make it in their chemical weapons division.
 
2012-07-31 02:38:48 PM

ontariolightning: I live by a reserve. Abandoned rusty cars everywhere!
8 year olds drive cars and they are allowed to. Police there grow and distribute marihuana
because there's no law against it. If you're not from that reserve and you're on it
you probably are in danger of being stabbed or mugged. Its like Deadwood, South Dakota before the government took it.


Having actually served as a police officer on a Reserve, I can confidently tell you you are full of shiat. Just because your drinking buddies told you a story one night at a beach party doesn't make it true.

Oh, and theat reserve was in BC. If anyone's police force was going to grow and distribute pot, it would have been ours.
 
2012-07-31 02:39:37 PM

ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?

selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas


Except that it opens markets, not to mention Nexen is in trouble and nobody domestically is really in a position to do anything about it. While LNG is finally recovering back to over $3 mMbtu here in North America, places like china and japan are pushing over $12 mMbtu as high as $18 back in March. Same goes for oil and synthetic, while our prices slide, prices in Asia are still going up. Hippies in BC blocking pipeline construction are costing millions upon millions of dollars per day.
 
2012-07-31 02:41:58 PM

SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?

selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas

Except that it opens markets, not to mention Nexen is in trouble and nobody domestically is really in a position to do anything about it. While LNG is finally recovering back to over $3 mMbtu here in North America, places like china and japan are pushing over $12 mMbtu as high as $18 back in March. Same goes for oil and synthetic, while our prices slide, prices in Asia are still going up. Hippies in BC blocking pipeline construction are costing millions upon millions of dollars per day.


harper can block it like he blocked the pot ash australian deal
 
2012-07-31 02:42:34 PM

Highroller48: ontariolightning: I live by a reserve. Abandoned rusty cars everywhere!
8 year olds drive cars and they are allowed to. Police there grow and distribute marihuana
because there's no law against it. If you're not from that reserve and you're on it
you probably are in danger of being stabbed or mugged. Its like Deadwood, South Dakota before the government took it.

Having actually served as a police officer on a Reserve, I can confidently tell you you are full of shiat. Just because your drinking buddies told you a story one night at a beach party doesn't make it true.

Oh, and theat reserve was in BC. If anyone's police force was going to grow and distribute pot, it would have been ours.


not full of shiat

and im in ontario
 
2012-07-31 02:49:20 PM

ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?

selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas

Except that it opens markets, not to mention Nexen is in trouble and nobody domestically is really in a position to do anything about it. While LNG is finally recovering back to over $3 mMbtu here in North America, places like china and japan are pushing over $12 mMbtu as high as $18 back in March. Same goes for oil and synthetic, while our prices slide, prices in Asia are still going up. Hippies in BC blocking pipeline construction are costing millions upon millions of dollars per day.

harper can block it like he blocked the pot ash australian deal


You mean Paridis. Potash was at the base a political move, because Saskatchewans were getting their shiat in a twist over it. BHP's bid was also part of a hostile takeover, Nexen is in financial difficulty. Ergo there was little net benefit to Canada aside from losing domestic ownership of a very large natural resource. Oil isn't like potash though, most reserves worldwide are state controlled, the oil sands are the largest free reserves out there right now. But the bullshiat prices at home are really putting a pinch on some companies and they need help.
 
2012-07-31 02:49:36 PM
Boy "Indians drink" is pretty much the Boobies.
You know,Canadians do nothing but brag about their beer and drinking ability.
Listen to a Canadian talk about American beer sometime.

Being an Indian who has dated a lot of "white" women and hung out with their families, the only difference I see between Indians and Canadians is that Indians don't seem to mind drinking outside.
 
2012-07-31 02:54:37 PM

SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?

selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas

Except that it opens markets, not to mention Nexen is in trouble and nobody domestically is really in a position to do anything about it. While LNG is finally recovering back to over $3 mMbtu here in North America, places like china and japan are pushing over $12 mMbtu as high as $18 back in March. Same goes for oil and synthetic, while our prices slide, prices in Asia are still going up. Hippies in BC blocking pipeline construction are costing millions upon millions of dollars per day.

harper can block it like he blocked the pot ash australian deal

You mean Paridis. Potash was at the base a political move, because Saskatchewans were getting their shiat in a twist over it. BHP's bid was also part of a hostile takeover, Nexen is in financial difficulty. Ergo there was little net benefit to Canada aside from losing domestic ownership of a very large natural resource. Oil isn't like potash though, most reserves worldwide are state controlled, the oil sands are the largest free reserves out there right now. But the bullshiat prices at home are really putting a pinch on some companies and they need help.


they are the largest but also dirtiest oil reserve in the world

this whole ethical oil campaign is bullshiat too

how can the oil be ethical if the government is muzzling the scientists?
 
2012-07-31 02:55:09 PM
www.gribase.com
 
2012-07-31 03:06:29 PM

ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?

selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas

Except that it opens markets, not to mention Nexen is in trouble and nobody domestically is really in a position to do anything about it. While LNG is finally recovering back to over $3 mMbtu here in North America, places like china and japan are pushing over $12 mMbtu as high as $18 back in March. Same goes for oil and synthetic, while our prices slide, prices in Asia are still going up. Hippies in BC blocking pipeline construction are costing millions upon millions of dollars per day.

harper can block it like he blocked the pot ash australian deal

You mean Paridis. Potash was at the base a political move, because Saskatchewans were getting their shiat in a twist over it. BHP's bid was also part of a hostile takeover, Nexen is in financial difficulty. Ergo there was little net benefit to Canada aside from losing domestic ownership of a very large natural resource. Oil isn't like potash though, most reserves worldwide are state controlled, the oil sands are the largest free reserves out there right now. But the bullshiat prices at home are really putting a pinch on some companies and they need help.

they are the largest but also dirtiest oil reserve in the world

this whole ethical oil campaign is bullshiat too

how can the oil be ethical if the government is muzzling the scientists?


Aside from unsourced bloggers, that claim is pretty much false. Most companies extracting bitumen etc from the sands have made pretty remarkable steps forward in "going green," mostly because it makes economical sense now. Even more so if they were able to sell their products for a reasonable value in comparison to the rest of the world.
 
2012-07-31 03:09:40 PM
its confirmed

sultan is a conservative pr person
 
2012-07-31 03:13:59 PM
Highroller48:
Having actually served as a police officer on a Reserve, I can confidently tell you you are full of shiat. Just because your drinking buddies told you a story one night at a beach party doesn't make it true.
Oh, and theat reserve was in BC. If anyone's police force was going to grow and distribute pot, it would have been ours.


You're forgetting, racism is 100% acceptable when it's targeted at Natives, especially in Canada.
 
2012-07-31 03:15:46 PM

GeneralError: Highroller48:
Having actually served as a police officer on a Reserve, I can confidently tell you you are full of shiat. Just because your drinking buddies told you a story one night at a beach party doesn't make it true.
Oh, and theat reserve was in BC. If anyone's police force was going to grow and distribute pot, it would have been ours.

You're forgetting, racism is 100% acceptable when it's targeted at Natives, especially in Canada.


natives are racist towards white man

it goes both ways
 
2012-07-31 03:20:35 PM

ontariolightning: Highroller48: ontariolightning: I live by a reserve. Abandoned rusty cars everywhere!
8 year olds drive cars and they are allowed to. Police there grow and distribute marihuana
because there's no law against it. If you're not from that reserve and you're on it
you probably are in danger of being stabbed or mugged. Its like Deadwood, South Dakota before the government took it.

Having actually served as a police officer on a Reserve, I can confidently tell you you are full of shiat. Just because your drinking buddies told you a story one night at a beach party doesn't make it true.

Oh, and that reserve was in BC. If anyone's police force was going to grow and distribute pot, it would have been ours.

not full of shiat

and im in ontario


And I grew up in Southwestern Ontario less than an hour's drive from several different Reservations. Rusty cars? You bet. Thousands of them. Drug and alcohol problems? Hell yes. Not a good idea to trespass? Well, if you have no god reason to be there, then you're probably going to be told pretty plainly to GTFO. THose things are perfectly true. HOWEVER, 8-year-olds legally allowed to drive? Nope. No law against cultivation or distribution of pot? Wrong again. You are talking out of your ass. Plain and simple.

By now you probably also assume I'm Native. No doubt because you "know" that only Natives are allowed to work on Reservations. Oops, you missed another one. NOw please look into the camera and say "My name is OntarioLightning and I am NOT smarter than a 5th grader".
 
2012-07-31 03:23:57 PM

ontariolightning: natives are racist towards white man

it goes both ways


In case anyone wondered what it looks like to be digging a 10-foot hole with only a 5-foot ladder, I give you this guy. Seriously, dude, you are as clueless as it gets. And I thought the hicks here in Alberta were bad!
 
2012-07-31 03:27:29 PM

Highroller48: ontariolightning: natives are racist towards white man

it goes both ways

In case anyone wondered what it looks like to be digging a 10-foot hole with only a 5-foot ladder, I give you this guy. Seriously, dude, you are as clueless as it gets. And I thought the hicks here in Alberta were bad!


Yeah, the amount of fail is spectacular in this one. But he's from Ontario, so I'm not really that surprised...
 
2012-07-31 03:29:18 PM

WhippingBoy: But he's from Ontario, so I'm not really that surprised...


Hey now!!!

Even in God's country, someone has to dig the ditches.
 
2012-07-31 03:31:05 PM

inclemency: Haha @ subby.

/Canadian
//Glad I'm not AMURIKAN!!!!!!


So are we.
 
2012-07-31 03:34:24 PM

Highroller48: ontariolightning: natives are racist towards white man

it goes both ways

In case anyone wondered what it looks like to be digging a 10-foot hole with only a 5-foot ladder, I give you this guy. Seriously, dude, you are as clueless as it gets. And I thought the hicks here in Alberta were bad!


what i said wasnt even racist

i dont believe any one race is superior to others

thats what racisim means

go check the dictionary
 
2012-07-31 03:36:30 PM
in actuality reservations are racist in that they are separating races
 
2012-07-31 03:36:52 PM

SultanofSchwing: Most companies extracting bitumen etc from the sands have made pretty remarkable steps forward in "going green," mostly because it makes economical sense now ...


I just came back to Calgary from the "Patch" 6 days ago and I just can't agree. There's nothing "green" about the oilsands. Don't believe that pretty commercial you see in movie theatres and on TV. You know, the one with the modern-looking building sitting like a shrine among 10,000 acres of forest? That ain't the real oilsands. Once you've seen an active tailings pond up close, or been to a dig site, it's a real eye-opener. Most of that stuff sure ain't on the guided tour that clebs and politicos get.

My job probably wouldn't exist without Alberta's energy industry, but I'm under no illusions that it has a LONG farking way to go before it can be called anything even close to environmentally sound.
 
2012-07-31 03:37:06 PM
CANADIAN INTERNET THROW-DOWN!!

/grabs popcorn
 
2012-07-31 03:42:25 PM
its easy to find the morons on fark, say one negative bit true thing about a group of people
and they go RACIST!

sorry shiatbirds but everyone has negative opinions about at least one race
claiming you don't is the same as claiming your shiat doesn't stink.
everyones shiat stinks, including yours asshole
 
2012-07-31 03:42:29 PM
Generally, any occupying military is going to be offensive to any indigenous group.
Just ask the Afghanis.
Now, If we ran ads comparing their ability to pack a camel's ass with hard Paki cawk to how our military loads a cannon, they wouldn't be offended. They would fap.

I can make this joke because I'm a native.
/But not of Packistan
/Those people are more savage than a red-headed Mingo.
 
2012-07-31 03:47:15 PM
Here's a true joke

Q: What time did the native get up to go to school?
A: It was a trick question. The native doesn't go to school
 
2012-07-31 03:48:51 PM

ladyfortuna: The headline did not end up where I thought it would; subsequently, I laughed.


:D Thanks, glad to hear it.

Submitted this one. Actually, got 2 greenlights in 1 day today, whoo! Doesn't happen very often.
 
2012-07-31 03:52:28 PM

Highroller48: SultanofSchwing: Most companies extracting bitumen etc from the sands have made pretty remarkable steps forward in "going green," mostly because it makes economical sense now ...

I just came back to Calgary from the "Patch" 6 days ago and I just can't agree. There's nothing "green" about the oilsands. Don't believe that pretty commercial you see in movie theatres and on TV. You know, the one with the modern-looking building sitting like a shrine among 10,000 acres of forest? That ain't the real oilsands. Once you've seen an active tailings pond up close, or been to a dig site, it's a real eye-opener. Most of that stuff sure ain't on the guided tour that clebs and politicos get.

My job probably wouldn't exist without Alberta's energy industry, but I'm under no illusions that it has a LONG farking way to go before it can be called anything even close to environmentally sound.


There is a lot to do still obviously, it's not like the tar sands are anything new. Suncor's been up there in one shape or another for almost 50 years. So yes, in the 60s and 70s I would imagine technology and environmental concerns we're as progressive. So the damage was already done, but you can't deny that they're not trying to do it better now. Water/air monitoring stations and so on.

As for the tailing pond, well yeah...it's a tailing pond, you're not going to be drinking from it. But really if tailing ponds are an issue, don't go looking at any gold mines any time soon. Same goes for copper or nickel mines. The shiat floating in those ponds makes oil sands ponds look like a swimming pool.
 
2012-07-31 04:03:20 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?


Some cultures cling to canoes other cultures cling to guns and no marriage for gays.
 
2012-07-31 04:37:41 PM

WhippingBoy: Highroller48: ontariolightning: natives are racist towards white man

it goes both ways

In case anyone wondered what it looks like to be digging a 10-foot hole with only a 5-foot ladder, I give you this guy. Seriously, dude, you are as clueless as it gets. And I thought the hicks here in Alberta were bad!

Yeah, the amount of fail is spectacular in this one. But he's from Ontario, so I'm not really that surprised...


Hey, I'm from Ottawa! I'm hated equally across all provincial boundaries by association! Don't give him all your hate! Remember, a Federation is about fair transfer payments of discontent and loathing!
 
2012-07-31 04:38:02 PM

SultanofSchwing: but you can't deny that they're not trying to do it better now


Absolutely. Unfortunately it's a "kicking and screaming" situation when it comes to convincing these guys of the importance of improving the methods. They're like Libertaians...they'd rather see the world come to an end than give one dime out of their own pockets for anything other than their own immediate benefit. :)
 
2012-07-31 04:38:27 PM
i52.tinypic.com



Turn THIS into a recruitment poster.
 
2012-07-31 04:40:47 PM

ThreadSinger: Hey, I'm from Ottawa!


Now THERE's a bumper sticker you'll never see.



/couldn't resist
 
2012-07-31 05:15:14 PM
*sigh* They find everything offensive.
 
2012-07-31 05:20:09 PM
The natives, at least here in Eastern Canada, do not work. Nor do they vote, or pay any taxes.
However, because of the collective white man's guilt here in Canada, we do not require them to take any responsibility for themselves. Instead, we are constantly apologizing to the native community, and throwing money at it, hoping that it will be quiet.
In Labrador, the Federal Government spent 80 million dollars to move six hundred gas-sniffing Innu thirty miles, from one dump at Davis Inlet, to another one in the making, Natuashish. The substance abuse continues, and nobody works. Worse, the Supreme Court of Canada has said in the Gladue case that natives who commit crimes deserve to be treated differently, simply because they are native. This ignores the fact that treating the mostly male offenders with a lighter sentence effectively dis-enfranchises native women who are victims of crime, but that little detail gets ignored by the Courts of Appeal, who are staffed mostly by paternalistic older white men.
Who pays for all of this? I do. Forty percent of my gross income is taken from my pay as income tax, and another eleven percent is taken as a sales tax. So, half my income is stolen from me by the government.
Oh, please don't start with the socialized medicare bullshiat. Private medicare for four million dollars coverage costs three hundred dollars a month.
In the mean time, the funniest thing was stated earlier in this thread: the natives rejected the ad because it mentioned that four letter word that they despise: w-o-r-k.
 
2012-07-31 05:26:23 PM
And Bwahaha is not a racist for speaking the truth

so those of you who use the word racist on a daily basis can shove it up your ass
 
2012-07-31 05:34:50 PM

Highroller48: SultanofSchwing: Most companies extracting bitumen etc from the sands have made pretty remarkable steps forward in "going green," mostly because it makes economical sense now ...

I just came back to Calgary from the "Patch" 6 days ago and I just can't agree. There's nothing "green" about the oilsands. Don't believe that pretty commercial you see in movie theatres and on TV. You know, the one with the modern-looking building sitting like a shrine among 10,000 acres of forest? That ain't the real oilsands. Once you've seen an active tailings pond up close, or been to a dig site, it's a real eye-opener. Most of that stuff sure ain't on the guided tour that clebs and politicos get.

My job probably wouldn't exist without Alberta's energy industry, but I'm under no illusions that it has a LONG farking way to go before it can be called anything even close to environmentally sound.


As someone in the environmental industry, I have yet to see a singularly clean mass-extraction activity for a finite resource. That said, I've been privy to a lot of the monitoring work done outside the Oil Sands throughout Western and Central Canada, and they're pretty sound, well managed, well-intentioned monitoring programs, especially to someone from Ontario who's exposed to heavy bias against petroleum production.

That said, Alberta, I really hope you understand the long term costs of resource extraction: the oil is finite, the earth will heal, but only long after the petro-bucks have dried up.

Hopefully we'll have better energy sources and consumer/social policies by then.
 
2012-07-31 05:37:44 PM

verbaltoxin: Canadian Army to First Nations: Oh, we're soary.


I prefered when they were called natives, then I could snark that I was born here too thus making me a native and qualify for all the righteous indignation and tax payer hand outs my non-existent morals and empathy can tolerate.
 
2012-07-31 05:44:51 PM

ontariolightning: WhippingBoy: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the Conservatives. The only think they've got going for them is that they're not the NDP...

the liberals are no better than the conservatives

the ndp are on the right side of the oil fight

most canadians don't want that pipeline to go through BC


As an Albertan pressure welder who has much more at stake in this issue than some douche from Ontario I ask you to quote some statistics proving that ridiculously moronic claim.
 
2012-07-31 05:49:08 PM

ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: seriously how can anyone diss the NDP when Harper is about to allow the Chinese government to buy a Canadian oil company?!

Think for a second about what that would mean

Being able to sell Natural Gas for a reasonable amount overseas?

selling a huge natural gas company to the government of China is different than selling natural gas overseas

Except that it opens markets, not to mention Nexen is in trouble and nobody domestically is really in a position to do anything about it. While LNG is finally recovering back to over $3 mMbtu here in North America, places like china and japan are pushing over $12 mMbtu as high as $18 back in March. Same goes for oil and synthetic, while our prices slide, prices in Asia are still going up. Hippies in BC blocking pipeline construction are costing millions upon millions of dollars per day.

harper can block it like he blocked the pot ash australian deal

You mean Paridis. Potash was at the base a political move, because Saskatchewans were getting their shiat in a twist over it. BHP's bid was also part of a hostile takeover, Nexen is in financial difficulty. Ergo there was little net benefit to Canada aside from losing domestic ownership of a very large natural resource. Oil isn't like potash though, most reserves worldwide are state controlled, the oil sands are the largest free reserves out there right now. But the bullshiat prices at home are really putting a pinch on some companies and they need help.

they are the largest but also dirtiest oil reserve in the world

this whole ethical oil campaign is bullshiat too

how can the oil be ethical if the government is muzzling the scientists?


My god you are stupid. Have you any idea how truly stupid you are trolly trollerson?
 
2012-07-31 05:55:22 PM

Highroller48: SultanofSchwing: Most companies extracting bitumen etc from the sands have made pretty remarkable steps forward in "going green," mostly because it makes economical sense now ...

I just came back to Calgary from the "Patch" 6 days ago and I just can't agree. There's nothing "green" about the oilsands. Don't believe that pretty commercial you see in movie theatres and on TV. You know, the one with the modern-looking building sitting like a shrine among 10,000 acres of forest? That ain't the real oilsands. Once you've seen an active tailings pond up close, or been to a dig site, it's a real eye-opener. Most of that stuff sure ain't on the guided tour that clebs and politicos get.

My job probably wouldn't exist without Alberta's energy industry, but I'm under no illusions that it has a LONG farking way to go before it can be called anything even close to environmentally sound.


Having spent more time up there than I want to I disagree with you. You are describing active mines and ponds, the commercials are of reclaimed land that USED to be active mines and ponds. That is the whole point o reclamation. I worked on Suncor's TRO project last year and can tell you yese companies are doing the right thing. Maybe because these douche bag enviros are forcing them to but the end results dont care about the means.
 
2012-07-31 06:16:55 PM
encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-07-31 06:25:29 PM
Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos
 
2012-07-31 06:38:35 PM
A friend of mine is Cree, and he joined the forces.

They ended up making him pretend to be a terrorist in training exercises because he had dark skin, And that's all he did in the army for 2 years.

He wasn't concerned that it was racist, because it kept his ass out of Afghanistan. But.......come on. You get a couple of brown guys in the army and the only job you have is making them dress up like terrorists? Seriously?
 
2012-07-31 06:44:41 PM

ModernLuddite: A friend of mine is Cree, and he joined the forces.

They ended up making him pretend to be a terrorist in training exercises because he had dark skin, And that's all he did in the army for 2 years.

He wasn't concerned that it was racist, because it kept his ass out of Afghanistan. But.......come on. You get a couple of brown guys in the army and the only job you have is making them dress up like terrorists? Seriously?


sounds like he could have had a multi episode appearance on 24

they were always in need of more brown people
 
2012-07-31 06:45:05 PM

ontariolightning: Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos


Ontarians of all people should learn to be more pro-oil, but I can see how the benefits of an actual thriving economy and natural resources sector can be ignored in Ontario, Quebec and most of the Maritimes since the feds subsidize your shiat economies anyway.
 
2012-07-31 06:49:19 PM

ontariolightning: Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos


and the thing is the people who want the pipeline through BC don't live in B.C
so why do they care if it pollutes their natural environment?

people just want the oil and everything else be damned.. ive been donating as much money to anti oil sands groups, ill be volunteering for them as well and will take part in protests

im going to be part of the movement along with the NDP provincially and federally in B.C territory that will stop these oil barons from killing Canada
 
2012-07-31 06:51:52 PM

SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos

Ontarians of all people should learn to be more pro-oil, but I can see how the benefits of an actual thriving economy and natural resources sector can be ignored in Ontario, Quebec and most of the Maritimes since the feds subsidize your shiat economies anyway.


my oh my albertans have an awful big chip on their shoulder

i think ontario and quebec deserve a break.. since they were the 2 provinces holding the rest of canada up from being a 3rd world nation for decades

now say thank you
 
2012-07-31 06:59:25 PM

ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos

Ontarians of all people should learn to be more pro-oil, but I can see how the benefits of an actual thriving economy and natural resources sector can be ignored in Ontario, Quebec and most of the Maritimes since the feds subsidize your shiat economies anyway.

my oh my albertans have an awful big chip on their shoulder

i think ontario and quebec deserve a break.. since they were the 2 provinces holding the rest of canada up from being a 3rd world nation for decades

now say thank you


Like typical libs, "look at everything from 30 years ago when we were relevant!"
 
2012-07-31 07:04:03 PM

SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos

Ontarians of all people should learn to be more pro-oil, but I can see how the benefits of an actual thriving economy and natural resources sector can be ignored in Ontario, Quebec and most of the Maritimes since the feds subsidize your shiat economies anyway.

my oh my albertans have an awful big chip on their shoulder

i think ontario and quebec deserve a break.. since they were the 2 provinces holding the rest of canada up from being a 3rd world nation for decades

now say thank you

Like typical libs, "look at everything from 30 years ago when we were relevant!"


hey you were the one who made the comment on quebec and ontario basically having shiatty economies

so i came back with we held canada above the water for decades

which is true

then you get offended

like a typical western who wont admit that they struggled in the past.. and now that they are the powerhouse, its all alberta is the best and ontario is the worst

i knew that would be your reaction.. its the same for most westerners
 
2012-07-31 07:33:21 PM
RTOGUY:
Why is it a priority to make sure all ethnic groups are represented in the forces? If natives want to join they are free to do so and if they don't want to join that is okay too. Is there some kid out on a snowmobile somewhere drowning his sorrows in a box of cheap wine wishing he could join the navy but knowing it will never happen because he hasn't seen any natives on a recruiting poster? This is supposed to be the military not some feel good government P.R project.

To put it bluntly, underprivileged minorities are a great source of recruits, given the career opportunities the Forces provide. I suppose some people involved might have ideas about "untapped talent pools" and so on.

CSB: my dad (a soldier) once sent a letter up the chain pointing out that on their new recruiting poster, the only black guy depicted was a cook, not even in uniform, while the whites depicted had cool jobs like "missile computer lady" and "special forces l33t camo d00d". What he got back was basically "STFU and GBTW, Sergeant".
 
2012-07-31 07:51:22 PM
It's nice to know that brown people everywhere biatch for no reason, not just here.
 
2012-07-31 08:04:38 PM

SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: SultanofSchwing: ontariolightning: Big oil is Canadas enemy

havent you been seeing all these enbridge oil spills? no way in hell
are the people of BC are going to stand for that to happen there

BC libs are gone next election too. Say hello to the NDP who will scuttle the pipeline if there is a deal by then

so fark you pro oil and pro pollution pos

Ontarians of all people should learn to be more pro-oil, but I can see how the benefits of an actual thriving economy and natural resources sector can be ignored in Ontario, Quebec and most of the Maritimes since the feds subsidize your shiat economies anyway.

my oh my albertans have an awful big chip on their shoulder

i think ontario and quebec deserve a break.. since they were the 2 provinces holding the rest of canada up from being a 3rd world nation for decades

now say thank you

Like typical libs, "look at everything from 30 years ago when we were relevant!"


Yes an idiotic generalization really makes you look smart, no really I'm not being sarcastic....
 
2012-07-31 08:40:20 PM

ModernLuddite: A friend of mine is Cree, and he joined the forces.

They ended up making him pretend to be a terrorist in training exercises because he had dark skin, And that's all he did in the army for 2 years.

He wasn't concerned that it was racist, because it kept his ass out of Afghanistan. But.......come on. You get a couple of brown guys in the army and the only job you have is making them dress up like terrorists? Seriously?


Better than Operation "Get Behind the Darkies"
 
2012-07-31 08:55:00 PM
I come here for a nice, quiet and reasoned discussion about Native peoples and what might be offensive.

Instead, a fight about Oil and Enbridge Pipeline's latest lateral and "my province could beat up your province."

Gentlemen, turn in your Canuck cards at the door.
 
2012-07-31 09:18:34 PM

An Idiot: I come here for a nice, quiet and reasoned discussion about Native peoples and what might be offensive.

Instead, a fight about Oil and Enbridge Pipeline's latest lateral and "my province could beat up your province."

Gentlemen, turn in your Canuck cards at the door.


your screenname suits you

these are important topics to discuss

its our future at stake
 
2012-07-31 09:32:56 PM

spentmiles: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: What's more offensive, the Canadian Navy featuring canoe-building in a commercial, or the fact that your native culture is still clinging to centuries old technology as some point of pride?

It'd be awesome to see what an F-22 could do to a fleet of native canoes.


Suffocate the pilot, causing the F-22 to fly into the water at near mach speeds, causing a huge wave to spawn and kill, maim, soak a large number of people.
 
2012-07-31 09:52:34 PM
I've worked contract work in Fort Mac for about six years now in monthly batches at a few different sites. As far as those pretty ads go about the oil sands I'd say the Long Lake Project (Nexen) is about as close as it gets to a visually pleasing place to show off but it isn't indicative of every site out there by any means. This is mostly due to the process they use to extract compared to some others.

Still, I have a hard time believing the pond and process itself isnt harmful to the environment in some way but I'm by no means remotely qualified to say one way or another.
 
2012-08-02 02:45:49 AM

base935: [www.gribase.com image 171x320]


I know it's a bit late, but thanks, man.
 
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