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(Wired)   US Air Force: The stealthy, fifth-generation, $400 million F-22 Raptor is the undisputed king of the skies. German Luftwaffe: Ja, about that   (wired.com) divider line 27
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2012-07-31 10:57:47 AM
6 votes:
I went one-on-one with an F-22 at the joint exercise they're talking about. The German Typhoon pilot got me in close enough to jump onto its back. Hand over hand, I crawled up the fuselage as we streaked through the air at 750 knots. When I got to the front, I used a rock to smash the cockpit window, pulled the pilot out, and took control of the plane. I then put it into a nose dive using my belt to secure the stick before bailing out. I was the hero of the day.
2012-07-31 11:03:38 AM
5 votes:
I have also found that my Keurig makes much better coffee than the F22. Good job, DoD.
2012-07-31 11:02:49 AM
5 votes:
To be historically accurate/fair, the Germans usually have three or four years to f**k-up the planet before you star-spanglers notice there's a world war going on.
2012-07-31 12:18:33 PM
3 votes:

Mishno: DjangoStonereaver: I can't believe the USAF is still farking the chicken of long range missile "dogfighters" after all this time.
They were useless in the 1960s, and they're useless today.
AIM-7E != AIM-120C
1960s air to air missiles were at the begining of that technology. AIM-7Es had VACUUM TUBES in their guidance systems.


At least those old missiles had a warm sound.
2012-07-31 12:03:35 PM
3 votes:

Nuc_E: It still is the king of the skies. Being able to dominate the airspace over a larger range than the enemy while maintaining stealth. Yeah, it totally sucks. Get back to me when the Grippen can find a way to get into range without getting blown out of the sky.

You are a sniper. You are heavily camo'ed on an open battlefield. You have the benefit of optics and a long range large caliber rifle.

Your enemy is carrying a standard military rifle.

You can see him from far away and he is in your range while you are not in his. He cannot see you, but he knows your general direction.

Who would win in that scenario?


Dysentery.
2012-07-31 11:05:07 AM
2 votes:
I say we get our shiat together and stop them before they bomb Pearl Harbor again!
2012-07-31 11:02:39 AM
2 votes:
Well when the Germans have Maverick in their Top Gun program I'll get worried.
2012-07-31 03:06:16 PM
1 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: Germany -0-
USA 2

/done


Where did that "2" come from? As far as I know I'd be speaking Russian if the US never bothered to show up. The Russians were first to Berlin, Canada and the UK were the prime forces liberating The Netherlands and the US? They were lagging behind somewhere. Sure, you helped defeating the Nazi empire but don't kid yourself and think that you did anything other than speeding up the inevitable. You only joined the fighting out of self interest, you needed a market to sell stuff and having communists roll over Europe was something you couldn't allow because zOMG capitalism and democracy.
2012-07-31 02:41:41 PM
1 votes:

Dheiner: spentmiles: I went one-on-one with an F-22 at the joint exercise they're talking about. The German Typhoon pilot got me in close enough to jump onto its back. Hand over hand, I crawled up the fuselage as we streaked through the air at 750 knots. When I got to the front, I used a rock to smash the cockpit window, pulled the pilot out, and took control of the plane. I then put it into a nose dive using my belt to secure the stick before bailing out. I was the hero of the day.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


I know. What was holding his pants up if he used his belt to tie the controls?
2012-07-31 11:40:01 AM
1 votes:

hdhale: In a real world scenario, if you get close enough to see a Raptor, you are either part of its ground crew, the pilot, or you are drifting in your chute after your ride got shot out from underneath you.




oyster.ignimgs.com
/sympathises with having your ride shot out from underneath you
2012-07-31 11:35:56 AM
1 votes:

PYROY: Why is it that fighter jets don't have rockets that face backwards?


The French variant of the Typhoon does.
2012-07-31 11:34:25 AM
1 votes:
So the F-22s are the Tau of the world's airforce?
www.gobiel.com
2012-07-31 11:22:11 AM
1 votes:
It would be an evil person indeed who would attack the U.S's airshow superiority fighter.
2012-07-31 11:19:48 AM
1 votes:

you have pee hands: oldfarthenry: To be historically accurate/fair, the Germans usually have three or four years to f**k-up the planet before you star-spanglers notice there's a world war going on.

Not our fault that we're all the way over here and you're all the way over there. Hell, most of the time you tell us you like it that way.


Yup - there's a vast ocean between 'merikuh & Canuckistan. Was Sarah Palin in your geography class?
2012-07-31 11:16:57 AM
1 votes:
2012-07-31 11:15:37 AM
1 votes:

oldfarthenry: To be historically accurate/fair, the Germans usually have three or four years to f**k-up the planet before you star-spanglers notice there's a world war going on.


Not our fault that we're all the way over here and you're all the way over there. Hell, most of the time you tell us you like it that way.
2012-07-31 11:09:39 AM
1 votes:

traylor: ManRay: Didn't the Germans have superior planes in WWII? And how did that work out?

I'm not sure about your point, but here's something for you.
Link


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2012-07-31 11:08:51 AM
1 votes:

neritz: oldfarthenry: To be historically accurate/fair, the Germans usually have three or four years to f**k-up the planet before you star-spanglers notice there's a world war going on.

We don't like war...unless we start it.


Plus one would think the British Empire (upon which the sun never sets) and Friends, could handle one pissant nation state in Central Europe. Yet they kept proving us wrong.
2012-07-31 11:06:31 AM
1 votes:

trappedspirit: Theaetetus: As it turns out, if you go to slide 24 of the linked study, it turns out

Tell me more


You'd be surprised what turns out.
2012-07-31 11:05:50 AM
1 votes:

oldfarthenry: To be historically accurate/fair, the Germans usually have three or four years to f**k-up the planet before you star-spanglers notice there's a world war going on.


We don't like war...unless we start it.
2012-07-31 10:56:35 AM
1 votes:
i149.photobucket.com
Yeah - the CF-22 might be an oonse over-budget.
We asked the DSS to make out a cheque with the amount line left blank.

/Canuckian humour
//the extra `u' means extra yuks
2012-07-31 10:51:25 AM
1 votes:
download.gamezone.com
Ja! About as stealthy as a beer fart in church!
2012-07-31 10:50:03 AM
1 votes:
People seem to think the F-22 has to fly right over a target to hit it. Thanks Hollywood.
2012-07-31 10:48:02 AM
1 votes:
The F22 was designed on a premise, destroy the target before reaching visual range, that has never been tested in war and wasn't backed up with much independent research. It isn't surprising they lost in close range dog fights since they were never designed to win them

The DoD argues that missile technology has improved so much since the 1960s there is no reason to get close during air battles. Until there is a war with an opponent who can actually challenge the US for air dominance no one will know if their multibillion dollar gamble paid off.
2012-07-31 10:46:17 AM
1 votes:
You mean it's not invincible and it doesn't have the secret of life and it won't teach us the secret of eternal youth?

Why did we pay all this money, then?!
2012-07-31 10:25:36 AM
1 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: I can't believe the USAF is still farking the chicken of long range missile "dogfighters" after all this time.
They were useless in the 1960s, and they're useless today.


At least they remembered to put a cannon on this one.
2012-07-31 06:47:14 AM
1 votes:
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
 
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