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(Calgary Herald)   Every Chick-fil-A kids meal now comes with a copy of "The Berenstain Bears Get Into a Bad PR Situation"   (calgaryherald.com ) divider line
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jbc [TotalFark]
2012-07-31 12:54:07 AM  
I don't see how a family headed by two bears meets Westboro Baptist Chicken's marriage standard of one man and one woman.
 
2012-07-31 01:15:59 PM  
i45.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-31 01:16:01 PM  
Chick Fil A = Instagreen

got it
 
2012-07-31 01:21:36 PM  
If going after corporate Thoughtcrime is the 'in' thing these days, I suggest the right-wingers start with Ben & Jerry's for saying, "We stand with you" to Occupy Wall Street.
 
2012-07-31 01:21:50 PM  
pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-31 01:29:47 PM  
Actually, I'm kinda surprised by this. I thought the Berenstain authors were pretty right wing.
 
2012-07-31 01:34:37 PM  
I look forward to the day when even the VeggieTale people won't have anything to do with those assholes.
 
2012-07-31 01:34:48 PM  
I can see Chick Fil-A's reaction if the books are pulled by the publisher.

PR D-bag: Chick Fil-A has decided to recall the Berenstain Bears books because they are potentially dangerous to children and may give them nasty papercuts.
 
2012-07-31 01:39:12 PM  
Haters gonna hate the haters.
 
2012-07-31 01:43:22 PM  
Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.
 
2012-07-31 01:44:15 PM  

Current Resident: [pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com image 449x450]


WTF is that thing the mama bear wears day and night? That's how my grandmother dresses, but she's 84 and grew up in a farking rural village in Puerto Rico so I give her a pass.
 
2012-07-31 01:46:58 PM  
Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.
 
2012-07-31 01:54:19 PM  
"the biblical definition of the family unit,"

So, where are my concubines?
 
2012-07-31 02:05:11 PM  

natazha: "the biblical definition of the family unit,"

So, where are my concubines?


The bible is chock full of sinners. Don't confuse their breaking of God's plan with permission to go and do likewise. It was Adam and Eve, not Abraham and Sarah and Hagar and his Concubines.

God hates divorce, too. Just sayin'.
 
2012-07-31 02:09:45 PM  
Lesson: Business and politics don't mix. Business and religion don't mix. No matter what side you pick, people will hate you, just say nothing. I have been in sales for years. My clients don't know my political or religious views. I have clients that are pro-gay marriage and anti-gay marriage. Some are die hard republicans, others are die hard democrats. I want their money so I nod, agree and accept their monthly payments.
 
2012-07-31 02:14:28 PM  

hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.


There's a woman in my office that "can't" eat Chinese because of all the MSG, but she shoves Chick-Fil-A in her gullet on the regular. People can't be bothered to know jack about the products they like.

Urban Outfitters sells Obama shirts to suburban hipsters and is run by Rick Santorum's buddy, and Forever 21 sells skankwear and they're run by Jesus freaks. I doubt the people who shop at both have a clue where their money goes.

I used to avoid Domino's Pizza. Not for all the abortion stuff, but because Domino's Pizza tastes like Domino's Pizza.
 
2012-07-31 02:18:26 PM  

SphericalTime: Actually, I'm kinda surprised by this. I thought the Berenstain authors were pretty right wing.


FTA: "Stan Berenstain died in 2005, while Jan Berenstain died in February of this year."

They might've been, but apparently whomever is putting out the statements for the family may not be.
 
2012-07-31 02:21:02 PM  
www.leaguelineup.com

as good a time as any
 
2012-07-31 02:21:52 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I used to avoid Domino's Pizza. Not for all the abortion stuff, but because Domino's Pizza tastes like Domino's Pizza.


You sound like you have good taste in pizza.
 
2012-07-31 02:23:02 PM  
ftfa

"We are very much supportive of the family - the biblical definition of the family unit," Cathy said. "We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that."

Do these people have brain AIDS or something? It's like they live in some weird mirror darkly universe where anyone gives a shiat about their closed minds and sky wizard.

pro tip: people usually don't mind that your a closed minded bigot if you don't cause waves. but if you can't stfu about it you may find people go out of their way to avoid you

You sell deep fried chicken to fat farks. You gotta be pretty thick to fark that situation up.

"Hi, I'd like a chicken sandwich and one for my girl friend"

"You're.... you're also a girl though, right?"

"yeah......"

*places metal pot on head and picks up batter wisk*
"ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS...!!"
 
2012-07-31 02:23:24 PM  
Why don't they just bypass all this crap and give away Chick Tracts in their kids meals instead?
 
2012-07-31 02:24:31 PM  
www.maximumawesome.com

Did someone say bears?
 
2012-07-31 02:34:59 PM  

SphericalTime: Actually, I'm kinda surprised by this. I thought the Berenstain authors were pretty right wing.


That was my first thought as well.
 
2012-07-31 02:35:38 PM  
Rapmaster2000: People can't be bothered to know jack about the products they like.

You would think the signs saying they're closed on Sundays so their employees can go to church (or something like that) would give people a clue.
 
2012-07-31 02:37:18 PM  

Mad_Radhu: [www.maximumawesome.com image 540x398]

Did someone say bears?


www.anvari.org

No, sir, They were saying "Bear -urns".
 
2012-07-31 02:41:11 PM  

Great Janitor: Lesson: Business and politics don't mix. Business and religion don't mix. No matter what side you pick, people will hate you, just say nothing. I have been in sales for years. My clients don't know my political or religious views. I have clients that are pro-gay marriage and anti-gay marriage. Some are die hard republicans, others are die hard democrats. I want their money so I nod, agree and accept their monthly payments.


There is a difference between a consumer boycott over a moronic, hate-filled statement and a government agency/elected official deciding to ban a business based on that same statement. One is choice, the other is a statism and anti-free speech.

Yeah the Chick-fil-a guy is an idiot for alienating customers, but until it can be proven that the do discriminate against GLBT customers or employees, it's just his opinion and protected (i.e. from government repercussions) speech. Hell, it wasn't that far removed from the administration's pre-evolution stand on gay marriage.

/undirected rant off
 
2012-07-31 02:45:49 PM  

hubmacfan: Rapmaster2000: People can't be bothered to know jack about the products they like.

You would think the signs saying they're closed on Sundays so their employees can go to church (or something like that) would give people a clue.


Sort of. Kind of.

The Sabbath. Here's your day of rest. (Try to get that out of any other Greedy company)
 
2012-07-31 02:53:20 PM  
I'm betting that this makes the Threatdown.

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2012-07-31 03:06:00 PM  
Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?
 
2012-07-31 03:06:29 PM  

Jodeo: natazha: "the biblical definition of the family unit,"

So, where are my concubines?

The bible is chock full of sinners. Don't confuse their breaking of God's plan with permission to go and do likewise. It was Adam and Eve, not Abraham and Sarah and Hagar and his Concubines.

God hates divorce, too. Just sayin'.


Solomon Had 700 wives, 300 concubines, and was Holy and beloved of Yahweh enough to build the First Temple.

The only problem was that many of his wives were followers of their own deities of their peoples, not Yahweh, and they convinced their husband to build temples to their Gods, making the God of the Israelites angry since he was having to coexist with other deities and not pretend to be the only God.

So, basically, polygamy is allowed, but only if you are marrying wives of the same faith.
 
2012-07-31 03:10:57 PM  

downpaymentblues: Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?


Apparently we haven't read the their Bible. I've never seen it, but I'm guessing it has some pages missing. Including the whole "love thy neighbor" bits.
 
2012-07-31 03:12:44 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


Translation - I'm not going to inconvenience myself by standing up for my principles.
 
2012-07-31 03:20:09 PM  
The issue really isn't the fact that the owner said anti-gay remarks, more that the company actively donates to hate groups such as the AFA. That is the problem.
 
2012-07-31 03:24:49 PM  

downpaymentblues: Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?


They haven't, so they assume we haven't either.
 
2012-07-31 03:31:37 PM  

Kuroshin: downpaymentblues: Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?

They haven't, so they assume we haven't either.


I'd just like to see them called on it one time. The Bible is chock full of some really disgusting views on "marriage".
 
2012-07-31 03:38:18 PM  
Oblig for a Berenstain Bear thread...

art.penny-arcade.com

I would like to see this horror story in person, but then I'd be afraid my kid would want me to read it to him. Amazon has a few pages to see, but not the referenced part.

/Props to Penny Arcade
 
2012-07-31 03:41:43 PM  
The funny thing is Barack Obama had the exact same stand on gay marriage as Chick-Fil-A when he was running in Illinois. So maybe this Cathy guy should just say he's "evolved" from his marriage stance and all of this will go away.
 
2012-07-31 03:42:10 PM  
 
2012-07-31 03:44:18 PM  
FTA: "The Berenstain family does not at this time have control over whether the program proceeds or not. We hope those concerned about this issue will direct their comments toward HarperCollins and Chick-fil-A,"

/translation We're here to make money, don't picket us - it's them!
 
jvl
2012-07-31 03:47:28 PM  
I for one am outraged that the owner of a crappy food restaurant espouses the same opinion on gay marriage that Barak Obama did four years ago.

/ Protip: Obama didn't mean it. It was politically convenient like ethanol subsidies.
 
2012-07-31 03:54:06 PM  

jvl: I for one am outraged that the owner of a crappy food restaurant espouses the same opinion on gay marriage that Barak Obama did four years ago.

/ Protip: Obama didn't mean it. It was politically convenient like ethanol subsidies.


Obama made some money by selling his books to people. Did he go around giving the money from the book sales to groups whose purpose is to prolong apartheid against gays? Did he do so while proudly proclaiming it?
 
2012-07-31 03:58:45 PM  

torr5962: The funny thing is Barack Obama had the exact same stand on gay marriage as Chick-Fil-A when he was running in Illinois. So maybe this Cathy guy should just say he's "evolved" from his marriage stance and all of this will go away.


This means Ronald McDonald is president and Barack Obama has to have sex with fat Wendy on the jumbotron at Talladega.
 
2012-07-31 04:01:15 PM  
I DON'T CARE

if to get food (or anything) we had to agree with everyone in a company there would be mighty slim pickings in the country let alone the world.Or does anyone think that by purchasing said items you are voting for their beliefs?
 
2012-07-31 04:06:04 PM  
I wonder how this is going to impact the upcoming College Football Season? The Disney Co. Must be spitting nails at this point. The anchor sponsor for college football on ESPN, this ought to be good.

Anyone want to bet we won't be seeing any " eat more chick'n ads"
 
2012-07-31 04:06:38 PM  
Looks pretty gay-friendly to me:
i111.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-31 04:07:00 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


I don't care that the CEO has a shiatty opinion. He can say he eagerly awaits the Fourth Reich if he wants to.

I do care that he's been giving the company's money to hate groups like AFA, Exodus International and FoF.

That is what this kerfuffle is about. I won't support those groups directly or indirectly, so I won't give Chik-Fil-A the revenue money with which to do that.
 
2012-07-31 04:07:37 PM  

WTP 2: I DON'T CARE

if to get food (or anything) we had to agree with everyone in a company there would be mighty slim pickings in the country let alone the world.Or does anyone think that by purchasing said items you are voting for their beliefs?


You are giving them money with which they will pay lobbying groups to work within our government to continue oppression and persecution of people who were born gay.

So yes, in a very real and literal sense, you are voting for their beliefs.
 
2012-07-31 04:08:51 PM  

downpaymentblues: Kuroshin: downpaymentblues: Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?

They haven't, so they assume we haven't either.

I'd just like to see them called on it one time. The Bible is chock full of some really disgusting views on "marriage".


Politics Tab. Happens all the time.
 
2012-07-31 04:18:12 PM  

Harry_Seldon: I wonder how this is going to impact the upcoming College Football Season? The Disney Co. Must be spitting nails at this point. The anchor sponsor for college football on ESPN, this ought to be good.

Anyone want to bet we won't be seeing any " eat more chick'n ads"



They're changing it to "eat more cock" to help their image.
 
2012-07-31 04:18:47 PM  

Kuroshin: You are giving them money with which they will pay lobbying groups to work within our government to continue oppression and persecution of people who were born gay.

So yes, in a very real and literal sense, you are voting for their beliefs.


Quoted for Truth.

And this is why Citizen's United ruling was such a complete disaster. Business is no longer done "at arm's length" by "rational actors", politics becomes a very real influence in the transaction. I'm not just talking about the boycotters either, there's a reaction among the reactionaries to go out of their way to eat at Chik-Fil-A to "stand up for Christian rights".
 
2012-07-31 04:26:23 PM  

Great Janitor: Lesson: Business and politics don't mix. Business and religion don't mix. No matter what side you pick, people will hate you, just say nothing. I have been in sales for years. My clients don't know my political or religious views. I have clients that are pro-gay marriage and anti-gay marriage. Some are die hard republicans, others are die hard democrats. I want their money so I nod, agree and accept their monthly payments.


This
 
2012-07-31 04:43:52 PM  
Meh, I don't miss Chik-Fil-A. Not when Wendy's still sells its spicy chicken sandwich.

And I would do unholy, albeit heterosexual, things to their spokesgirl

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2012-07-31 04:46:40 PM  

Great Janitor: Lesson: Business and politics don't mix. Business and religion don't mix. No matter what side you pick, people will hate you, just say nothing. I have been in sales for years. My clients don't know my political or religious views. I have clients that are pro-gay marriage and anti-gay marriage. Some are die hard republicans, others are die hard democrats. I want their money so I nod, agree and accept their monthly payments.


Good man. Keep up the fine work.
 
2012-07-31 05:03:24 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


One of my employees said something like this. I pointed out that people who boycott Chick-Fil-A are doing so because they don't want some portion of their money going to support groups they oppose. If the company wasn't donating heavily to anti-gay marriage groups or whatever, it would be less of an issue.

"Buy one of our delicious chicken sandwiches for $3.00 and we'll donate a nickel to Westboro Baptist Church (or someone like them)!" is why people are boycotting.
 
2012-07-31 05:09:56 PM  

pudding7: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

One of my employees said something like this. I pointed out that people who boycott Chick-Fil-A are doing so because they don't want some portion of their money going to support groups they oppose. If the company wasn't donating heavily to anti-gay marriage groups or whatever, it would be less of an issue.

"Buy one of our delicious chicken sandwiches for $3.00 and we'll donate a nickel to Westboro Baptist Church (or someone like them)!" is why people are boycotting.


Dingdingdingdingdingding!!!

I don't see why some people can't understand this.
 
2012-07-31 05:21:51 PM  

Silverstaff: Jodeo: natazha: "the biblical definition of the family unit,"

So, where are my concubines?

The bible is chock full of sinners. Don't confuse their breaking of God's plan with permission to go and do likewise. It was Adam and Eve, not Abraham and Sarah and Hagar and his Concubines.

God hates divorce, too. Just sayin'.

Solomon Had 700 wives, 300 concubines, and was Holy and beloved of Yahweh enough to build the First Temple.

The only problem was that many of his wives were followers of their own deities of their peoples, not Yahweh, and they convinced their husband to build temples to their Gods, making the God of the Israelites angry since he was having to coexist with other deities and not pretend to be the only God.

So, basically, polygamy is allowed, but only if you are marrying wives of the same faith.


I'll see your King Solomon and raise you King David. In II Samuel Chapter 12, the Prophet Nathan comes to rebuke David after the Bathsheeba / Uriah the Hittite incident. In verse 8, Nathan is speaking the direct words of the LORD [YHWH] God of Abraham, Isaaac, and Jacob, to David:

"And I [the LORD God] gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things."

God point-blank says that He personally gave David the multiple wives of former King Saul!

David's sin was taking the wife of another man whom God had not given him, and ordering the murder-by-abandonment-in-battle of her rightful husband to accomplish it.

(Note: Bathsheeba was Solomon's mother. Had David not committed this sin, neither Solomon nor any other of the post-David Kings of United Israel or Judah would ever have existed, and neither would [at least according to Matthew] the line leading to Joseph the Carpenter, [allegedly step-]father of Jesus of Nazareth! But I digress....)
 
2012-07-31 05:37:06 PM  
Even if hitler owned chick-fil-a, I'd still buy their breakfast burrito.
 
2012-07-31 05:55:31 PM  
Came in to do a Chick Tract-Fil-A riff but I've been beaten to the punch by Parthenogenetic and the rest of the Internet.
 
2012-07-31 05:56:07 PM  

Kuroshin: pudding7: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

One of my employees said something like this. I pointed out that people who boycott Chick-Fil-A are doing so because they don't want some portion of their money going to support groups they oppose. If the company wasn't donating heavily to anti-gay marriage groups or whatever, it would be less of an issue.

"Buy one of our delicious chicken sandwiches for $3.00 and we'll donate a nickel to Westboro Baptist Church (or someone like them)!" is why people are boycotting.

Dingdingdingdingdingding!!!

I don't see why some people can't understand this.


In my experience, people generally can't understand most things.
 
2012-07-31 05:56:36 PM  

jjorsett: If going after corporate Thoughtcrime is the 'in' thing these days, I suggest the right-wingers start with Ben & Jerry's for saying, "We stand with you" to Occupy Wall Street.



Welcome to being on The Wrong Side of, well, just about everything.
Enjoy!
 
2012-07-31 05:57:02 PM  

beta_plus: Even if hitler owned chick-fil-a, I'd still buy their breakfast burrito.


only if they clean the ovens every morning
 
2012-07-31 05:59:16 PM  

jjorsett: If going after corporate Thoughtcrime is the 'in' thing these days, I suggest the right-wingers start with Ben & Jerry's for saying, "We stand with you" to Occupy Wall Street.


And just when did Evil become so goddamned whiny?
 
2012-07-31 06:02:30 PM  
lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-07-31 06:17:46 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


I agree that they have the right to do what they want, and while I too enjoy their food, I am certainly going to cut
back on my patronage due to their corporate stance, partially because the individual restaurants are owned by
local franchisees who may not have such a bigoted stance on things.
 
rpm
2012-07-31 06:29:44 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: partially because the individual restaurants are owned by
local franchisees who may not have such a bigoted stance on things.


Given that they interview franchisees individually and they have to promise to run in a biblical manner, yeah, chances are good they do have the same bigoted stance.
 
2012-07-31 06:48:00 PM  
So. . . no real controversy then.

The people who created Berenstain bears are gone (sadly) and can't speak for themselves on this issue.
 
2012-07-31 08:10:03 PM  
"Here at Chick-Fil-A, all our chickens are handpicked for the optimum farking to breadcrumb ratio."
 
2012-07-31 08:21:59 PM  

Jodeo: natazha: "the biblical definition of the family unit,"

So, where are my concubines?

The bible is chock full of sinners. Don't confuse their breaking of God's plan with permission to go and do likewise. It was Adam and Eve, not Abraham and Sarah and Hagar and his Concubines.

God hates divorce, too. Just sayin'.


Don't forget Cain and Abel and their sister-wives. Or were they doing Eve too? Must have been some interesting Thanksgiving dinners around their place.
 
2012-07-31 08:27:12 PM  

Rapmaster2000: hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.

There's a woman in my office that "can't" eat Chinese because of all the MSG, but she shoves Chick-Fil-A in her gullet on the regular. People can't be bothered to know jack about the products they like.

Urban Outfitters sells Obama shirts to suburban hipsters and is run by Rick Santorum's buddy, and Forever 21 sells skankwear and they're run by Jesus freaks. I doubt the people who shop at both have a clue where their money goes.

I used to avoid Domino's Pizza. Not for all the abortion stuff, but because Domino's Pizza tastes like Domino's Pizza.



This is why I avoid chick fil a
 
2012-07-31 08:57:54 PM  

syberpud: Yeah the Chick-fil-a guy is an idiot for alienating customers, but until it can be proven that the do discriminate against GLBT customers or employees, it's just his opinion and protected (i.e. from government repercussions) speech. Hell, it wasn't that far removed from the administration's pre-evolution stand on gay marriage.


I dunno if this is true, but a Facebook friend said she applied at CFA back in the day and they asked her about her sexual orientation. They also apparently ask you if you attend church and what church you go to.
 
2012-07-31 09:11:02 PM  
Turn or burn.
 
2012-07-31 09:11:25 PM  
ictmncdn1.tgpstage1.com
 
2012-07-31 09:13:31 PM  
How I feel listening to this idiotic debate (radio, print, tv, whatever):

i975.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-31 09:14:23 PM  

Command1: [ictmncdn1.tgpstage1.com image 600x418]


So...Pegging it is then?
 
2012-07-31 09:16:40 PM  
towleroad.typepad.com
 
2012-07-31 09:23:15 PM  

Parthenogenetic: Meh, I don't miss Chik-Fil-A. Not when Wendy's still sells its spicy chicken sandwich.

And I would do unholy, albeit heterosexual, things to their spokesgirl

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Now I want to eat Wendys. And I could use a spicy chicken sandwich too!
 
2012-07-31 09:56:18 PM  

madgonad: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

Translation - I'm not going to inconvenience myself by standing up for my principles.


It's apparent it doesn't have any principles. And shiat-fil-a food smells like donkey butt. I've never bought the crap and will never buy the crap. I don't eat crap.
 
2012-07-31 10:02:30 PM  
If there was a CFA around here I would go there in a minute.

Free speech absolutist here.

And fark Muslims who think their shiate doesn't stink and that all others need to bow before them.

Go blow a camel. Mohammed was a pedophile.
 
2012-07-31 10:13:03 PM  

der Glitzkrieg: The issue really isn't the fact that the owner said anti-gay remarks, more that the company actively donates to hate groups such as the AFA. That is the problem.


And they are free to do so.

Just as I'm free to buy my chicken somewhere else.
 
2012-07-31 10:20:37 PM  
Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy
2012-07-31 01:43:22 PM
Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.



This is a real shame. On a purely bidness level, CFA is the very benchmark for how to run a fast food joint. The stores are clean, the food is good, the employees are polite and service is good. No one ever says 'You're Welcome' or 'No prob'. Always, 'It's My Pleasure'. For some reason I love that small flourish.
And you're right. The guy is entitled to his opinion. But what these right wingers never seem to learn is that when you go public with your opinion, there are consequences.
And boycotts are the domain of right wingers. Just ask the Dixie Chicks if right wingers like to boycott.
As for me, My money will not be used to fund hate organizations like Focus on The Family or any group that attacks abortion doctors.
Not if I know about it first, at least. This dickwad has a right to his opinion. And so do I.

And I will miss those tasty, tasty CFA sammiches. I can't wait for Cathy to backpedal and walk his stupid statement back so I can stop eating grease bombs for lunch. Although at this point it will take more than just walking his statement back. It will probably take something along the lines of a public BJ or something.
 
2012-07-31 10:59:19 PM  

PanicMan: Parthenogenetic: Meh, I don't miss Chik-Fil-A. Not when Wendy's still sells its spicy chicken sandwich.

And I would do unholy, albeit heterosexual, things to their spokesgirl

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Now I want to eat Wendys. And I could use a spicy chicken sandwich too!


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Granted this is a local place and probably not the entire company's stance.
 
2012-07-31 10:59:42 PM  

CraicBaby: syberpud: Yeah the Chick-fil-a guy is an idiot for alienating customers, but until it can be proven that the do discriminate against GLBT customers or employees, it's just his opinion and protected (i.e. from government repercussions) speech. Hell, it wasn't that far removed from the administration's pre-evolution stand on gay marriage.

I dunno if this is true, but a Facebook friend said she applied at CFA back in the day and they asked her about her sexual orientation. They also apparently ask you if you attend church and what church you go to.


Depending on the state, asking those two last question are illegal, I believe.
 
2012-07-31 11:04:26 PM  

hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.


Well he didn't make 'anti-gay' remarks.

http://www.brnow.org/News/July-2012/% E2%80%98Guilty-as-charged,%E2%80 % 99-Dan-Cathy-says-of-Chick-fil-A

rta.

He supports family
 
2012-07-31 11:22:44 PM  

Cheesus: PanicMan: Parthenogenetic: Meh, I don't miss Chik-Fil-A. Not when Wendy's still sells its spicy chicken sandwich.

And I would do unholy, albeit heterosexual, things to their spokesgirl

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Now I want to eat Wendys. And I could use a spicy chicken sandwich too!

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Granted this is a local place and probably not the entire company's stance.


The stance may be "want to do business without bullshiat" which a lot of people may not understand how furious homosexuals are about the CFA donations. Without constant explaining, to the world at large it seems like a hissy fit.
 
2012-07-31 11:32:08 PM  

KingVJ: hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.

Well he didn't make 'anti-gay' remarks.

http://www.brnow.org/News/July-2012/% E2%80%98Guilty-as-charged,%E2%80 % 99-Dan-Cathy-says-of-Chick-fil-A

rta.

He supports family


According to hate groups like the ACLU, being pro-family is being anti-gay.
 
2012-07-31 11:34:48 PM  

douchebag/hater: Free speech absolutist here.


Then you fail.

Free speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of your speech.
Also, see slander/libel, incitement to riot, and other forms of non-protected speech.
 
2012-07-31 11:41:47 PM  

IHadMeAVision: Current Resident: [pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com image 449x450]

WTF is that thing the mama bear wears day and night? That's how my grandmother dresses, but she's 84 and grew up in a farking rural village in Puerto Rico so I give her a pass.



Do you mean a mumu? (New window)
 
2012-07-31 11:54:52 PM  
I understand that some people don't want to give Chick-Fil-A their money. I understand that some people do. I understand that some people like chicken and find boycotts ineffective and would rather vote instead of boycott (This is my position). These are all things I understand.

What I don't understand is how Focus on the Family is being called a hate group. SPLC does not have them labeled as such, so where did the term come from? From what I recall, they're mostly magazines for adults and radio shows for children. Other than spouting their opinion and posturing, what hate group activities are they engaging in?

From what I can tell from the financial disclosures I found online... Chick-Fil-A gave a total of $1000 to an actual SPLC designated hate group (Family Research Council). That's obviously $1000 too much, but I don't get the rhetoric that Focus on the Family or the Fellowship of Christian Athletes are hate groups. (Yes, the FCA is included in the dollar amounts thrown around online as being given to "hate" groups). It just seems like there's a lot of information getting muddled, including what is or is not a hate group.

/But mostly I'm just tired of hearing about this outrageoversy
//And every outrageoversy
///I'm going to be yelling at kids to get off my lawn any day now.
 
2012-08-01 12:02:15 AM  

potterydove: According to hate groups like the ACLU, being pro-family is being anti-gay.


WTF?

How is telling loving couples they can't marry because it offends people of another religion being "pro-family"

Two loving men or women who want to wed, are allowed to by their faith, and are told they can't because people who follow another religion say it violates their religious traditions and concept of what a "family" is, is being "pro-family"?

That's typical Conservative doubletalk bullshiat. It's like when they want to prohibit an abortion because the procedure would be needed to save the life of the mother, so instead of aborting the fetus and saving the mother, both would die. . .because that's "pro life".

Guess what. Banning marriage equality is not a universal religious constant. The Anglican Church will do it (not all Priests and Bishops will, but you can have a gay marriage in an Anglican Church if the local diocese permits it, and there are a number that will). The Old Catholic Churches of Utrecht (a series of European Catholic churches that split with Rome in the 1800's) will marry gay couples (and ordain women priests).

Quakers, Lutheran Church of Sweden, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Church of Denmark, Church of Norway, Unitarian Universalists, Mennonite Church of the Netherlands.

Basically, most Churches other than Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Mormons, JW's and US Protestants approve of it. Or is this a "no true Scotsman" issue and all those other religions don't count?

That's without getting into non-Christian faiths that will conduct same-sex unions, like neo-Pagan faiths

Trying to ban legal recognition of same-sex marriages on religious grounds is a blatant First Amendment Establishment Clause issue, because it is giving the religious doctrine of some faiths preferential treatment in establishing the law of the land.
 
2012-08-01 12:14:16 AM  

Cheesus: PanicMan: Parthenogenetic: Meh, I don't miss Chik-Fil-A. Not when Wendy's still sells its spicy chicken sandwich.

And I would do unholy, albeit heterosexual, things to their spokesgirl

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Now I want to eat Wendys. And I could use a spicy chicken sandwich too!

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Granted this is a local place and probably not the entire company's stance.


Cheesus: where is this Wendy's located? I'd like to make sure their general manager gets a good biatch slapping.
 
2012-08-01 12:25:53 AM  

potterydove: KingVJ: hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.

Well he didn't make 'anti-gay' remarks.

http://www.brnow.org/News/July-2012/% E2%80%98Guilty-as-charged,%E2%80 % 99-Dan-Cathy-says-of-Chick-fil-A

rta.

He supports family

According to hate groups like the ACLU, being pro-family is being anti-gay.


Between You, Me, & everyone who can read this. Someone is misguided. (WRONG).

That's the 2nd time the ACLU has come up today & it is upsetting me.
 
2012-08-01 12:47:50 AM  
Can anybody with photoshop skills please do a "Berenstain Bears Meet Coach Sandusky" cover. Bonus points if you can shop in a shocked McQuery.
 
2012-08-01 12:56:15 AM  

Kuroshin: downpaymentblues: Kuroshin: downpaymentblues: Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?

They haven't, so they assume we haven't either.

I'd just like to see them called on it one time. The Bible is chock full of some really disgusting views on "marriage".

Politics Tab. Happens all the time.


No. I meant on TV, when Huckabee or some other person uses the "biblical definition of marriage" as an excuse to deny equal rights, I'd really like to see just one interviewer read off Deuteronomy 22, or 2nd Samuel 12, or Exodus 21. I could go on and on. The Bible is disgusting in the treatment of women. Women and young girls are nothing more than cattle to be traded into "marriage" or raped into "marriage" or taken in "marriage" as the spoils of slaughtering all the men in a village.

I'll stop now. It really upsets me that I spent so much of my life subservient and unquestioning.
 
2012-08-01 12:57:31 AM  

KingVJ: potterydove: KingVJ: hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.

Well he didn't make 'anti-gay' remarks.

http://www.brnow.org/News/July-2012/% E2%80%98Guilty-as-charged,%E2%80 % 99-Dan-Cathy-says-of-Chick-fil-A

rta.

He supports family

According to hate groups like the ACLU, being pro-family is being anti-gay.

Between You, Me, & everyone who can read this. Someone is misguided. (WRONG).

That's the 2nd time the ACLU has come up today & it is upsetting me.


Oh look, the Bigotry Brigade showed up.
 
2012-08-01 12:58:39 AM  

potterydove: According to hate groups like the ACLU, being pro-family is being anti-gay.


Wow. Are you truly so desperate to avoid seeing opinions that differ from yours that you have to falsely label the ACLU? I hope this is just "trolling".
 
2012-08-01 01:08:24 AM  
Hey I know you folks don't like Chick-fil-a, but this will get your blood boiling...

moot of 4chan is a big fan of Chick-fil-a. He has admitted on the boards that he enjoys going to Chick-fil-a a lot.
 
2012-08-01 01:08:41 AM  

Kuroshin: pudding7: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

One of my employees said something like this. I pointed out that people who boycott Chick-Fil-A are doing so because they don't want some portion of their money going to support groups they oppose. If the company wasn't donating heavily to anti-gay marriage groups or whatever, it would be less of an issue.

"Buy one of our delicious chicken sandwiches for $3.00 and we'll donate a nickel to Westboro Baptist Church (or someone like them)!" is why people are boycotting.

Dingdingdingdingdingding!!!

I don't see why some people can't understand this.


I totally agree!
Just like when the Union I have to pay dues to uses part of that money to support things I don't agree with.
 
2012-08-01 01:12:27 AM  

Krieghund: der Glitzkrieg: The issue really isn't the fact that the owner said anti-gay remarks, more that the company actively donates to hate groups such as the AFA. That is the problem.

And they are free to do so.

Just as I'm free to buy my chicken somewhere else.


Free market and all that.
 
2012-08-01 01:17:48 AM  

Funk Brothers: Hey I know you folks don't like Chick-fil-a, but this will get your blood boiling...

moot of 4chan is a big fan of Chick-fil-a. He has admitted on the boards that he enjoys going to Chick-fil-a a lot.


So?
 
2012-08-01 01:22:30 AM  

Dougie AXP: Cheesus: PanicMan: *snip*

Cheesus: where is this Wendy's located? I'd like to make sure their general manager gets a good biatch slapping.


I believe it's the one in Hickory, NC on US 70.
 
2012-08-01 01:23:04 AM  

Funk Brothers: Hey I know you folks don't like Chick-fil-a, but this will get your blood boiling...

moot of 4chan is a big fan of Chick-fil-a. He has admitted on the boards that he enjoys going to Chick-fil-a a lot.



We're not arguing whether the food is delicious. We're saying the CEO should not be saying stupid things in public. Regardless of one's position on the underlying issue, having the CEO harping over it cannot possibly do anything but hurt business, which is generally a poor business decision. Companies have PR departments for a reason.
 
2012-08-01 01:50:04 AM  
WHY IS A FAST FOOD JOINT CARING WHERE I PUT MY PENIS

SHUT UP AND MAKE MY DAMN FOOD

RESTAURANTS DON'T ALTER MY SEXUAL URGES NOR ASSURE AFTERLIFE PLEASANTRIES
 
2012-08-01 02:39:31 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business.


Of course he can. And we are free to boycott his restaurants if we want. Isn't it great to live in a country where everyone is free to express themselves?
 
2012-08-01 03:32:36 AM  
Apparently we're free to go off half-cocked on the slightest media whim as well.
Bravo America.
I would hate to think anyone cared about facts or truth anymore.

/Don't care about the restaurant.
//Don't have 'em here.
 
2012-08-01 03:51:59 AM  

Alt ZZTop: And shiat-fil-a food smells like donkey butt. I've never bought the crap and will never buy the crap. I don't eat crap.


Ahh, but do you stick your dick in it? ;)
 
2012-08-01 04:01:26 AM  
Being gay will lead to sex with animals but killing animals to eat for money is our business model. Deal with it.
 
2012-08-01 04:43:09 AM  

Rapmaster2000: torr5962: The funny thing is Barack Obama had the exact same stand on gay marriage as Chick-Fil-A when he was running in Illinois. So maybe this Cathy guy should just say he's "evolved" from his marriage stance and all of this will go away.

This means Ronald McDonald is president and Barack Obama has to have sex with fat Wendy on the jumbotron at Talladega.


Wow.

Wendy Thomas is fat. I had no idea.

Stands to reason, though.
 
2012-08-01 05:22:53 AM  

COMALite J: (Note: Bathsheeba was Solomon's mother. Had David not committed this sin, neither Solomon nor any other of the post-David Kings of United Israel or Judah would ever have existed, and neither would [at least according to Matthew] the line leading to Joseph the Carpenter, [allegedly step-]father of Jesus of Nazareth! But I digress....)


was wondering when someone would mention that Joseph the step father was the product (albeit generations later) of adultery.
surprised they released that statement regarding the books being put into the meals. I have read a few of the books when we have been sitting in waiting rooms at the kid's doctor and although the books do tend to follow the right wing family values I never really noticed too many religious overtones. I would have thought they would have thrown the Archie comics into the meals. I remember seeing those comics in school years ago before ever learning about separation of church and state and never gave it a second thought. just thought it was another comic book.

/and while we are mentioning multiple wives and following biblical principles, what about what Lot's daughters did to him?
 
2012-08-01 06:07:59 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


True, no matter who one does business with, it's likely that there's someone in the higher-ups who have a belief that one doesn't agree with.

www.belch.com

lolvirgin.com
 
2012-08-01 07:02:40 AM  

Rapmaster2000: hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.

There's a woman in my office that "can't" eat Chinese because of all the MSG, but she shoves Chick-Fil-A in her gullet on the regular. People can't be bothered to know jack about the products they like.

Urban Outfitters sells Obama shirts to suburban hipsters and is run by Rick Santorum's buddy, and Forever 21 sells skankwear and they're run by Jesus freaks. I doubt the people who shop at both have a clue where their money goes.

I used to avoid Domino's Pizza. Not for all the abortion stuff, but because Domino's Pizza tastes like Domino's Pizza.


MSG causes migranes in some people. if my mother in law eats chinese w/ msg, she's down at least 4 hours.
CFA has no MSG, so apples/oranges on that comparison.
 
2012-08-01 07:08:03 AM  
I wonder if Rush Limbaugh is going through withdrawls with all you morons pouncing on everything this chicken place is doing instead of pouncing on him.

/ im sure it will work just as well as your "boycott" on Rush worked.
 
2012-08-01 07:43:19 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

True, no matter who one does business with, it's likely that there's someone in the higher-ups who have a belief that one doesn't agree with.

[www.belch.com image 425x237]

[lolvirgin.com image 450x450]


I'm just kind of disappointing that Willy Wonka doesn't understand fungible commodities and where the US gets most of its oil.
 
2012-08-01 08:06:27 AM  

Kuroshin: downpaymentblues: Kuroshin: downpaymentblues: Every time I see someone defending their anti-gay stance as "we support the biblical definition of marriage", I cringe.

Do they think none of us have read the Bible?

They haven't, so they assume we haven't either.

I'd just like to see them called on it one time. The Bible is chock full of some really disgusting views on "marriage".

Politics Tab. Happens all the time.


Doesn't count unless they're called on to their face.
 
2012-08-01 08:17:03 AM  

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Goddammit...I clicked...
 
2012-08-01 08:18:04 AM  

WTP 2: I DON'T CARE

if to get food (or anything) we had to agree with everyone in a company there would be mighty slim pickings in the country let alone the world.Or does anyone think that by purchasing said items you are voting for their beliefs?


Chick-fil-a routinely donates profits to the American Family Association, a known hate group. So yes, purchasing from them would violate my beliefs.
 
2012-08-01 08:39:29 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: WTP 2: I DON'T CARE

if to get food (or anything) we had to agree with everyone in a company there would be mighty slim pickings in the country let alone the world.Or does anyone think that by purchasing said items you are voting for their beliefs?

Chick-fil-a routinely donates profits to the American Family Association, a known hate group. So yes, purchasing from them would violate my beliefs.


Do you have a link that shows that their money goes there and how much? I genuinely want to know. As I stated earlier in the thread, I've had a hard time finding the "$8 million" going to "hate groups". So far I found about $1000 a year going to Family Research Council and that's it (not great but not a large amount). The rest go to groups that are not considered hate groups by the SPLC.
 
2012-08-01 08:50:01 AM  

I sound fat: I wonder if Rush Limbaugh is going through withdrawls with all you morons pouncing on everything this chicken place is doing instead of pouncing on him.

/ im sure it will work just as well as your "boycott" on Rush worked.


He has young Dominican boys to pounce on him, so he will be fine.
 
2012-08-01 09:07:13 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

True, no matter who one does business with, it's likely that there's someone in the higher-ups who have a belief that one doesn't agree with.

[www.belch.com image 425x237]

[lolvirgin.com image 450x450]


So, your argument is that "well, they treat them worse? so by Chick fil-A." Plus there the fact most of the US oil doesn't come from OPEC. Oh wait nevermind, thinking and reasoning are two things that the christian conservative believes in.
 
2012-08-01 09:07:34 AM  

Wolf_Blitzer: KingVJ: potterydove: KingVJ: hubmacfan: Can someone explain why people are so shocked that a company that is run by very open-about-it Christians made some anti-gay remarks.

They probably should have kept their mouth shut, but it's not like you couldn't guess their position anyway.

Well he didn't make 'anti-gay' remarks.

http://www.brnow.org/News/July-2012/% E2%80%98Guilty-as-charged,%E2%80 % 99-Dan-Cathy-says-of-Chick-fil-A

rta.

He supports family

According to hate groups like the ACLU, being pro-family is being anti-gay.

Between You, Me, & everyone who can read this. Someone is misguided. (WRONG).

That's the 2nd time the ACLU has come up today & it is upsetting me.

Oh look, the Bigotry Brigade showed up.


YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.

BTW How am I being a bigot for posting the interview?
 
2012-08-01 09:18:55 AM  

KingVJ: YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.


How is his "pro-family" stance harmed by gay marriage? If you can give me a viable reason for this, I might let you off the hook, but otherwise, both you and he are bigots for excluding gay couples from your definition of family.
 
2012-08-01 09:33:44 AM  
The Palin is saying that the Chick CEO is being crucified for expressing his free speech... It goes both ways, open your mouth there is always the possibility you're going to get something back. If you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all (unless you have the balls to own up).
 
2012-08-01 09:50:47 AM  
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2012-08-01 09:51:14 AM  

IlGreven: KingVJ: YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.

How is his "pro-family" stance harmed by gay marriage? If you can give me a viable reason for this, I might let you off the hook, but otherwise, both you and he are bigots for excluding gay couples from your definition of family.


I don't know how it is harmed, but I'm Pro-Family as in that I know that family is near & dear to me & some day I want my own.

On the flip side how does being "pro family" may you Anti-Gay?
 
2012-08-01 09:51:36 AM  

mesmer242: Do you have a link that shows that their money goes there and how much? I genuinely want to know. As I stated earlier in the thread, I've had a hard time finding the "$8 million" going to "hate groups". So far I found about $1000 a year going to Family Research Council and that's it (not great but not a large amount). The rest go to groups that are not considered hate groups by the SPLC.


I don't believe people are using "hate group" to mean "only hate groups defined by the SPLC." They are using that term because groups like AFA and Exodus International are bigots and promote bigoted views.
 
2012-08-01 10:00:35 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Meh, I don't miss Chik-Fil-A. Not when Wendy's still sells its spicy chicken sandwich.

And I would do unholy, albeit heterosexual, things to their spokesgirl

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Absolutely, positively, THIS. And about the girl, yeah, that too.

Dublin, OH, home of Wendy's, just got its first stand-alone Chick-Fil-A this year. Was a big line at the drive-thru for the first week or so, now looks like it has the same traffic as every other fast food joint in the area. The mall, of course, has had one for years.
 
2012-08-01 10:01:07 AM  

KingVJ: IlGreven: KingVJ: YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.

How is his "pro-family" stance harmed by gay marriage? If you can give me a viable reason for this, I might let you off the hook, but otherwise, both you and he are bigots for excluding gay couples from your definition of family.

I don't know how it is harmed, but I'm Pro-Family as in that I know that family is near & dear to me & some day I want my own.

On the flip side how does being "pro family" may you Anti-Gay?


The problem is many organizations, like those chick-fil-a donated to, use the term 'pro-family' to exclude same sex couples. If you are truly profamily you should support them regardless of the race or sexual orientation of the family members. Since chick-fil-a doesn't support same sex marriage, and doesn't consider their partnership a family, they aren't really "profamily" they are antigay.
 
2012-08-01 10:12:29 AM  

Carth: KingVJ: IlGreven: KingVJ: YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.

How is his "pro-family" stance harmed by gay marriage? If you can give me a viable reason for this, I might let you off the hook, but otherwise, both you and he are bigots for excluding gay couples from your definition of family.

I don't know how it is harmed, but I'm Pro-Family as in that I know that family is near & dear to me & some day I want my own.

On the flip side how does being "pro family" may you Anti-Gay?

The problem is many organizations, like those chick-fil-a donated to, use the term 'pro-family' to exclude same sex couples. If you are truly profamily you should support them regardless of the race or sexual orientation of the family members. Since chick-fil-a doesn't support same sex marriage, and doesn't consider their partnership a family, they aren't really "profamily" they are antigay.


I guess it depends on your definition of Pro-Family, Pro-Gay, Anti-Family, & Anti-Gay.

I guess every person that doesn't have kids is Anti-Kids, right?
People in a homosexual relationship are Anti-Hetrosexual right?
People who drive cards are Anti-Bikes, right?
People who eat oatmeal are Anti-Grits, right?

I just read the article (again) & there wasn't anything about homosexual in their.
 
2012-08-01 10:13:06 AM  

Bears Repeating!
Chick-Fil-A and Proverbs 25:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JprRWKQys7A

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JprRWKQys7A

Link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JprRWKQys7A

Link

 
2012-08-01 10:14:21 AM  

odinsposse: mesmer242: Do you have a link that shows that their money goes there and how much? I genuinely want to know. As I stated earlier in the thread, I've had a hard time finding the "$8 million" going to "hate groups". So far I found about $1000 a year going to Family Research Council and that's it (not great but not a large amount). The rest go to groups that are not considered hate groups by the SPLC.

I don't believe people are using "hate group" to mean "only hate groups defined by the SPLC." They are using that term because groups like AFA and Exodus International are bigots and promote bigoted views.


See, I do have a problem with that then. The SPLC researches before labeling, and I trust them far more than a bunch of outraged people on the internet. "Hate group" is a very heavy term that should be used carefully or we will all suffer.
 
2012-08-01 10:19:11 AM  

odinsposse: I don't believe people are using "hate group" to mean "only hate groups defined by the SPLC." They are using that term because groups like AFA and Exodus International are bigots and promote bigoted views.


This.
 
2012-08-01 10:20:39 AM  

KingVJ: Carth: KingVJ: IlGreven: KingVJ: YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.

How is his "pro-family" stance harmed by gay marriage? If you can give me a viable reason for this, I might let you off the hook, but otherwise, both you and he are bigots for excluding gay couples from your definition of family.

I don't know how it is harmed, but I'm Pro-Family as in that I know that family is near & dear to me & some day I want my own.

On the flip side how does being "pro family" may you Anti-Gay?

The problem is many organizations, like those chick-fil-a donated to, use the term 'pro-family' to exclude same sex couples. If you are truly profamily you should support them regardless of the race or sexual orientation of the family members. Since chick-fil-a doesn't support same sex marriage, and doesn't consider their partnership a family, they aren't really "profamily" they are antigay.

I guess it depends on your definition of Pro-Family, Pro-Gay, Anti-Family, & Anti-Gay.

I guess every person that doesn't have kids is Anti-Kids, right?
People in a homosexual relationship are Anti-Hetrosexual right?
People who drive cards are Anti-Bikes, right?
People who eat oatmeal are Anti-Grits, right?

I just read the article (again) & there wasn't anything about homosexual in their.



The issue here is that Ckick-fil-A donates to groups who actively work against gay marriage. Sometimes these groups call themselves pro-family. The terminology really has no importance so arguing about it is pointless.
 
2012-08-01 10:32:06 AM  

KingVJ: Carth: KingVJ: IlGreven: KingVJ: YES, if actually reading what the man said is Bigotry, then I'm a bigot. BUT I won't twist someone's word & add stuff that wasn't there to make the news media.

How is his "pro-family" stance harmed by gay marriage? If you can give me a viable reason for this, I might let you off the hook, but otherwise, both you and he are bigots for excluding gay couples from your definition of family.

I don't know how it is harmed, but I'm Pro-Family as in that I know that family is near & dear to me & some day I want my own.

On the flip side how does being "pro family" may you Anti-Gay?

The problem is many organizations, like those chick-fil-a donated to, use the term 'pro-family' to exclude same sex couples. If you are truly profamily you should support them regardless of the race or sexual orientation of the family members. Since chick-fil-a doesn't support same sex marriage, and doesn't consider their partnership a family, they aren't really "profamily" they are antigay.

I guess it depends on your definition of Pro-Family, Pro-Gay, Anti-Family, & Anti-Gay.

I guess every person that doesn't have kids is Anti-Kids, right?
People in a homosexual relationship are Anti-Hetrosexual right?
People who drive cards are Anti-Bikes, right?
People who eat oatmeal are Anti-Grits, right?

I just read the article (again) & there wasn't anything about homosexual in their.


If people don't have kids that's fine. If people actively lobby to make having kids illegal that would indeed make them anti-kids. Just like if you don't want to marry someone the same sex as you that is fine. If you donate to causes to make it illegal that makes you anti-same sex marriage. The rest of your counter examples are fallacious in the same manner.

The fact Chilk-Fil-A donates part of its profits to groups working to deny rights to certain Americans is enough for some people to stop eating there. It obviously isn't for you.
 
2012-08-01 10:34:22 AM  

mesmer242: See, I do have a problem with that then. The SPLC researches before labeling, and I trust them far more than a bunch of outraged people on the internet. "Hate group" is a very heavy term that should be used carefully or we will all suffer.


I don't see how. "Hate group" isn't a legal or even very specific term. SPLC and some other groups use it in a specific way but nobody else seems to. Some guy upthread called the ACLU a hate group, presumably because he is disgusted by the first amendment, but I don't think that causes any suffering.

If it makes you feel better you can mentally replace "hate group" with "bigot" wherever you feel it is appropriate.
 
2012-08-01 10:47:52 AM  

madgonad: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

Translation - I'm not going to inconvenience myself by standing up for my principles.


Like the principle of supporting free speech?

Of course, people like you only believe the speech should be free when you agree with it.
 
2012-08-01 10:57:50 AM  

Carousel Beast: madgonad: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

Translation - I'm not going to inconvenience myself by standing up for my principles.

Like the principle of supporting free speech?

Of course, people like you only believe the speech should be free when you agree with it.


Part of free speech is that people are free to criticize and protest. This boycott is in no way a violation of anyone's right to free speech.
 
2012-08-01 11:00:29 AM  
Just had a chick-fil-a breakfast biscuit with bacon, cheese, eggs, and ranch dressing. A normally delicious meal transcended to another plane of existence when marinated in impotent disingenuous liberal tears.
 
2012-08-01 11:00:59 AM  

odinsposse: mesmer242: See, I do have a problem with that then. The SPLC researches before labeling, and I trust them far more than a bunch of outraged people on the internet. "Hate group" is a very heavy term that should be used carefully or we will all suffer.

I don't see how. "Hate group" isn't a legal or even very specific term. SPLC and some other groups use it in a specific way but nobody else seems to. Some guy upthread called the ACLU a hate group, presumably because he is disgusted by the first amendment, but I don't think that causes any suffering.

If it makes you feel better you can mentally replace "hate group" with "bigot" wherever you feel it is appropriate.


The reason it bothers me is this:

Fox Opinion person: Did you hear Candidate Bob gave $10000 to the Trans-siberian Orchestra? Doesn't he know they hate country music? I think they might be a radical country-hate group!! (outrage, outrage)
Fox News person: Controversy has erupted over Candidate Bob's contribution to alleged hate group Trans-siberian orchestra. More at 6.
Right wing blogger: It's astonishing that Bob is sticking by TSO through all this despite them being a known hate group.
Right wing commenters: I am disgusted by Bob! Down with Bob!
Voters then vote for the other guy.

A lot of what's happening with this Chick-Fil-A thing is the same controversy/outrage cycle that's been mentioned on the daily show and elsewhere. Saying "group A" is a hate group doesn't make it true, and defending those allegation makes people just as disingenuous (and tiresome) as the people on the right that have been playing fast and loose with reality the last few years.

/Ok, I'm done now. Back to watching the Olympics.
 
2012-08-01 11:01:29 AM  
Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...
 
2012-08-01 11:04:25 AM  

beta_plus: Just had a chick-fil-a breakfast biscuit with bacon, cheese, eggs, and ranch dressing. A normally delicious meal transcended to another plane of existence when marinated in impotent disingenuous liberal tears.


Confirmed for Bigot.
 
2012-08-01 11:07:52 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.

True, no matter who one does business with, it's likely that there's someone in the higher-ups who have a belief that one doesn't agree with.

[www.belch.com image 425x237]

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OPEC has an owner? Really? You're going with that?

mesmer242: A lot of what's happening with this Chick-Fil-A thing is the same controversy/outrage cycle that's been mentioned on the daily show and elsewhere. Saying "group A" is a hate group doesn't make it true, and defending those allegation makes people just as disingenuous (and tiresome) as the people on the right that have been playing fast and loose with reality the last few years.


No one is saying that chick-a-fil is a hate group. We're saying that they fund hate groups. Which they've admitted to.
 
2012-08-01 11:11:34 AM  

jjorsett: If going after corporate Thoughtcrime is the 'in' thing these days, I suggest the right-wingers start with Ben & Jerry's for saying, "We stand with you" to Occupy Wall Street.


Right-Wingers, especially the Christian Right have been committing "Corporate Thought Crime" for decades now.
 
2012-08-01 11:17:44 AM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: lolvirgin.com


Who are the "Owners of OPEC?"

Be Specific.
 
2012-08-01 11:22:49 AM  

Raharu: beta_plus: Just had a chick-fil-a breakfast biscuit with bacon, cheese, eggs, and ranch dressing. A normally delicious meal transcended to another plane of existence when marinated in impotent disingenuous liberal tears.

Confirmed for Bigot.


Confirmed for right of association and use of private property for me, but not for thee.
 
2012-08-01 11:23:26 AM  

mesmer242: See, I do have a problem with that then. The SPLC researches before labeling, and I trust them far more than a bunch of outraged people on the internet. "Hate group" is a very heavy term that should be used carefully or we will all suffer.


They give money to groups that actively fight and organize against equal rights for homosexual unions. What would be your preferred word to describe that?

Because I think when you look at someone and say "I disapprove of who you are and how you live so much that I will actively fight to deny you equal protections under the law as protected by the Constitution. I want to literally create a second, lower class of citizen than I who is entitled to fewer protections under the law, and I want to make you a part of that group..."

To me "hatred" is a very accurate way to describe a statement like that, what description would you use?
 
2012-08-01 11:25:07 AM  

The Homer Tax: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: lolvirgin.com

Who are the "Owners of OPEC?"

Be Specific.


The Unions?
 
2012-08-01 11:31:49 AM  

beta_plus: Raharu: beta_plus: Just had a chick-fil-a breakfast biscuit with bacon, cheese, eggs, and ranch dressing. A normally delicious meal transcended to another plane of existence when marinated in impotent disingenuous liberal tears.

Confirmed for Bigot.

Confirmed for right of association and use of private property for me, but not for thee.


You eat there knowing they donate to groups whos goals are to deny people rights and change them into 2nd class citizens. You're free to be a bigot. Expect people to call you on it, and treat you accordingly.
 
2012-08-01 11:36:06 AM  
This will go down as the biggest chicken sandwich ordeal ever.
 
2012-08-01 11:40:30 AM  
And on the cool side of it all:

http://nashua.patch.com/articles/nashua-chick-fil-a-to-sponsor-nh-pri d e-fest
 
2012-08-01 11:47:25 AM  

Nightmaretony: And on the cool side of it all:

http://nashua.patch.com/articles/nashua-chick-fil-a-to-sponsor-nh-pri d e-fest


nice to read there are some franchisees that support the local community over the corporate PR.
 
2012-08-01 11:50:29 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


He most certainly is entitled to his shiatty opinion. And I'm entitled to my opinion that I don't want one thin dime of my money going to that dickbag and the causes he supports.
 
2012-08-01 11:53:50 AM  

Nightmaretony: And on the cool side of it all:

http://nashua.patch.com/articles/nashua-chick-fil-a-to-sponsor-nh-pri d e-fest


Now there's a good guy. I'd eat at his restaurant any day.

Incidentally, I'm also starting a pool on how long it takes for Chick-Fil-A to pull his franchise license. I'm taking one week.
 
2012-08-01 11:54:00 AM  
Considering that vote after vote the people of this country do not support gay marriage I would think that in the long run CFA will come out better on this. People will circle the wagons (while in the drive through) and the gay agenda really won't be able to call anything going on right now a victory.

When you have the liberal idiot mayor of NY telling the fascist mayors of Chicago, Boston and San Francisco that they have crossed the line....that should tell you something.
 
2012-08-01 11:59:04 AM  

Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...


It's harder and harder to find good targets for our daily Two Minute Hate.
 
2012-08-01 12:10:40 PM  

Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...


Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.
 
2012-08-01 12:21:33 PM  

Trackball: Considering that vote after vote the people of this country do not support gay marriage I would think that in the long run CFA will come out better on this. People will circle the wagons (while in the drive through) and the gay agenda really won't be able to call anything going on right now a victory.

When you have the liberal idiot mayor of NY telling the fascist mayors of Chicago, Boston and San Francisco that they have crossed the line....that should tell you something.


Fascism is well known as a tolerant and inclusive political philosophy. Your Civics education is commendable.
 
2012-08-01 12:27:39 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.


Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you think that I don't care about anything because I posted a comment on how this is the new internet outrage and that people will find something else to be outraged about next month. But hey if you feel the need to judge me and make assumptions about me then go ahead. The internet really isn't serious business after all.
 
2012-08-01 12:31:57 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


"Even though I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to my death your right to say it."

/I support his right to say what he wants and do what he wants with his money
//I support my right to eat a delicious sandwich
 
2012-08-01 12:43:51 PM  

grinding_journalist: "Even though I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to my death your right to say it."

/I support his right to say what he wants and do what he wants with his money
//I support my right to eat a delicious sandwich


No one's saying the guy should be thrown in jail for being a dickhead. He's free to say what he wants and people who disagree with his opinions are free to call him a dickhead and not buy his chicken sandwiches.
 
2012-08-01 12:52:52 PM  
It's nice to know no business occurred on Wednesday
 
2012-08-01 01:02:34 PM  

Trackball: e gay agenda really won't be able to call anything going on right now a victory.


It's sad that you live in a world where Equal Protection Under the Law is an "Agenda."

You are a bad person.
 
2012-08-01 01:08:11 PM  

Raharu: beta_plus: Raharu: beta_plus: Just had a chick-fil-a breakfast biscuit with bacon, cheese, eggs, and ranch dressing. A normally delicious meal transcended to another plane of existence when marinated in impotent disingenuous liberal tears.

Confirmed for Bigot.

Confirmed for right of association and use of private property for me, but not for thee.

You eat there knowing they donate to groups whos goals are to deny people rights and change them into 2nd class citizens. You're free to be a bigot. Expect people to call you on it, and treat you accordingly.


The line at my local chick-fil-a in Arlington, VA (probably last voted Republican since ... never) is out the door as I write this. Racially and ethnically diverse, too. CRY MOAR.

/marriage isn't a right - it's a contract
//free speech and association are rights
///don't believe you for a minute that you won't use gay marriage to force privately owned and operated Churches you don't like to marry homosexuals
 
2012-08-01 01:20:26 PM  

Trackball: Considering that vote after vote the people of this country do not support gay marriage I would think that in the long run CFA will come out better on this. People will circle the wagons (while in the drive through) and the gay agenda really won't be able to call anything going on right now a victory.

When you have the liberal idiot mayor of NY telling the fascist mayors of Chicago, Boston and San Francisco that they have crossed the line....that should tell you something.


I agree with you on that point, In a similar vein, when the Berenstein family is trying to distance themselves from you due to your stated beliefs and donations, maybe that too should tell you something.
 
2012-08-01 01:27:50 PM  

beta_plus:
/marriage isn't a right - it's a contract
//free speech and association are rights
///don't believe you for a minute that you won't use gay marriage to force privately owned and operated Churches you don't like to marry homosexuals


Even if your first point I quote above was true, being denied marriage denies a large number of other rights.

Furthermore, your 3rd point I quote is complete and utter BS. I am a Christian, married to a Jew. This is completely legal (now, anyways) in America. However, any number of private institutions (Churches and Synagogues, Priests and Rabbis) had no problem telling us they wouldn't be performing the ceremony, thank you very much.

If religious objection is a suitable reason for denying marriage, then all interfaith marriages should be annulled then is it?

/My words have more weight in this argument - see, I have the title of Reverend in my name!
 
2012-08-01 03:17:22 PM  

grinding_journalist: /I support his right to say what he wants and do what he wants with his money


And yet, you'll probably turn around and yell at how Obammer is spending all your tax dollars on the lazy welfare queens...

/If you don't care where your chicken money goes, why care where your tax money goes?
 
2012-08-01 03:34:43 PM  
Good thing they avoided 'good PR'... Else the restaurants would be empty today.
 
2012-08-01 03:43:30 PM  
IlGreven
/If you don't care where your chicken money goes, why care where your tax money goes?

An interesting analogy, but a little flawed. We have less say where our tax money goes,and often have to go to great lengths to have that little bit of a "say".

A percentage of my tax money goes to help people who cannot help themselves due to injury, health problems or just plain old bad luck. A percentage of that welfare money goes to people who are bilking the system by being lazy and having kids they know they cannot afford. I accept this as the cost of helping the people who need it. Similarly, my chicken money may go to multiple things that are good (including employing people)-but not all of them may be for things I believe in completely.
 
2012-08-01 03:44:08 PM  

IlGreven: grinding_journalist: /I support his right to say what he wants and do what he wants with his money

And yet, you'll probably turn around and yell at how Obammer is spending all your tax dollars on the lazy welfare queens...

/If you don't care where your chicken money goes, why care where your tax money goes?


One is a choice, the other is a mandate. I'm sure I could find something to be upset about when it came to any vendor I come into contact with. At the end of the day, they're free to support whatever causes they want, and I'm free to continue to do business with them, or take it elsewhere if I don't agree with their choices. The key point is, I have a CHOICE in the matter, and they have the RIGHT to their own beliefs.

I HAVE to pay taxes, so yes, I don't appreciate frivolous junkets or pork barrel projects since they rob me to enrich someone else and I have NO SAY in the matter. And don't say my "vote" is my say, we both know the little man has no voice when going up against special interests.

/I don't view social services that way BTW.
//Don't care for Obama
///Or any other politician for that matter
 
2012-08-01 04:22:29 PM  

Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you think that I don't care about anything because I posted a comment on how this is the new internet outrage and that people will find something else to be outraged about next month. But hey if you feel the need to judge me and make assumptions about me then go ahead. The internet really isn't serious business after all.


Judge everyone else. Make assumptions about everyone else.
[Scumbag Steve.jpg]
Whine about others judging and making assumptions about me.

 
2012-08-01 04:34:00 PM  

The Homer Tax: mesmer242: See, I do have a problem with that then. The SPLC researches before labeling, and I trust them far more than a bunch of outraged people on the internet. "Hate group" is a very heavy term that should be used carefully or we will all suffer.

They give money to groups that actively fight and organize against equal rights for homosexual unions. What would be your preferred word to describe that?

Because I think when you look at someone and say "I disapprove of who you are and how you live so much that I will actively fight to deny you equal protections under the law as protected by the Constitution. I want to literally create a second, lower class of citizen than I who is entitled to fewer protections under the law, and I want to make you a part of that group..."

To me "hatred" is a very accurate way to describe a statement like that, what description would you use?


How about "Republican"?
 
2012-08-01 05:11:04 PM  

ReverendLoki: beta_plus:
/marriage isn't a right - it's a contract
//free speech and association are rights
///don't believe you for a minute that you won't use gay marriage to force privately owned and operated Churches you don't like to marry homosexuals

Even if your first point I quote above was true, being denied marriage denies a large number of other rights.

Furthermore, your 3rd point I quote is complete and utter BS. I am a Christian, married to a Jew. This is completely legal (now, anyways) in America. However, any number of private institutions (Churches and Synagogues, Priests and Rabbis) had no problem telling us they wouldn't be performing the ceremony, thank you very much.

If religious objection is a suitable reason for denying marriage, then all interfaith marriages should be annulled then is it?

/My words have more weight in this argument - see, I have the title of Reverend in my name!


Actually, you've already done precisely what I said in point 3.

Try harder.
 
2012-08-01 05:20:40 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you think that I don't care about anything because I posted a comment on how this is the new internet outrage and that people will find something else to be outraged about next month. But hey if you feel the need to judge me and make assumptions about me then go ahead. The internet really isn't serious business after all.

Judge everyone else. Make assumptions about everyone else.
[Scumbag Steve.jpg]
Whine about others judging and making assumptions about me.


If the Chick Fil A thing goes on for more than one month then you were right and I was wrong. If it fades out though with no meaningful change and some other thing has captured the hearts and minds of the internet...(say In 'N Out, or some other African warlord) then I was right and you were wrong. Either way I'm sure both of us will forget about it and be complaining about something else or calling other people "cool and awesome" in a sarcastic tone.
 
2012-08-01 05:30:15 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Man, whatever.

The guy is a bible-banging dickhole, but it's a privately held company. He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business. I'm not going to stop eating spicy chicken sandwiches and waffle fries with lemonade because I don't agree with his politics.


But you're okay with funding those politics?

I mean, if that's your priority, then that's fine, but you need to acknowledge that you're helping to fund some really ugly organizations who've got some rather nasty agendas.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't have your chicken sandwich, but I am suggesting that maybe it would be worth your while to find someone else who's got a decent enough sandwich without having your money funneled to organizations with a mission to put gays back in the closet.

No one's asking you to picket them with protest signs and bad folk songs, but maybe it's not too much to ask for something just a bit smaller that would still let you have a nice lunch?
 
2012-08-01 05:31:27 PM  

beta_plus: ReverendLoki: beta_plus:
/marriage isn't a right - it's a contract
//free speech and association are rights
///don't believe you for a minute that you won't use gay marriage to force privately owned and operated Churches you don't like to marry homosexuals

Even if your first point I quote above was true, being denied marriage denies a large number of other rights.

Furthermore, your 3rd point I quote is complete and utter BS. I am a Christian, married to a Jew. This is completely legal (now, anyways) in America. However, any number of private institutions (Churches and Synagogues, Priests and Rabbis) had no problem telling us they wouldn't be performing the ceremony, thank you very much.

If religious objection is a suitable reason for denying marriage, then all interfaith marriages should be annulled then is it?

/My words have more weight in this argument - see, I have the title of Reverend in my name!

Actually, you've already done precisely what I said in point 3.

Try harder.


So, wait, the local UMC owns, per the article, ALL of the property in this town. Furthermore, the one bit of property in question, is not part of any church structure, but rather is an outdoor boardwalk, that has been officially and legally made available to the public?

Yeah, that has no relation to your statement at all.

In this case, the church tried to prevent a ceremony on, for what is all intents and purposes, legally publicly accessible land, At no point was the local UMC required to acknowledge the validity of the marriage, nor did they force any UMC clergy to perform the ceremony, nor was any private church property used in the ceremony.

Yeah, but other than that, it's exactly the same.

I also notice that you deftly skirted my other argument on that point. I would like to hear your reply to that.
 
2012-08-01 05:49:21 PM  
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-08-01 05:53:20 PM  
That little, buffalo? Don't look like over half the population of the US in that picture, buddy.
 
2012-08-01 06:04:46 PM  

Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you think that I don't care about anything because I posted a comment on how this is the new internet outrage and that people will find something else to be outraged about next month. But hey if you feel the need to judge me and make assumptions about me then go ahead. The internet really isn't serious business after all.

Judge everyone else. Make assumptions about everyone else.
[Scumbag Steve.jpg]
Whine about others judging and making assumptions about me.

If the Chick Fil A thing goes on for more than one month then you were right and I was wrong. If it fades out though with no meaningful change and some other thing has captured the hearts and minds of the internet...(say In 'N Out, or some other African warlord) then I was right and you were wrong. Either way I'm sure both of us will forget about it and be complaining about something else or calling other people "cool and awesome" in a sarcastic tone.


Regardless whether it's about Chick-Fil-A or something else, you'll still be in every thread to talk about how cool and disinterested you are, so I guess you at least have consistency on your side.
 
2012-08-01 06:04:50 PM  

Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you think that I don't care about anything because I posted a comment on how this is the new internet outrage and that people will find something else to be outraged about next month. But hey if you feel the need to judge me and make assumptions about me then go ahead. The internet really isn't serious business after all.

Judge everyone else. Make assumptions about everyone else.
[Scumbag Steve.jpg]
Whine about others judging and making assumptions about me.

If the Chick Fil A thing goes on for more than one month then you were right and I was wrong. If it fades out though with no meaningful change and some other thing has captured the hearts and minds of the internet...(say In 'N Out, or some other African warlord) then I was right and you were wrong. Either way I'm sure both of us will forget about it and be complaining about something else or calling other people "cool and awesome" in a sarcastic tone.


Regardless whether it's about Chick-Fil-A or something else, you'll still be in every thread to talk about how cool and disinterested you are, and make a big production about how little you care, so I guess you at least have consistency on your side.
 
2012-08-01 06:05:26 PM  
OK, apparently it posted when I was previewing? WTF?
 
2012-08-01 06:07:30 PM  

Buffalo77: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x539]


Wrong. Getting fat off of fried chicken doesn't require you to be literate enough to fill out a few forms.
 
2012-08-01 06:10:53 PM  
Nightmaretony
That little, buffalo? Don't look like over half the population of the US in that picture, buddy.

Doesn't need to be half, just enough to tip the scale in a few swing states and to energize the base.

Did you see the article about the 3800 african american pastors who are launching a campaign against PBO's stance of gay marriage. Thats got to demoralize the demographic. Maybe he only get 80% of that base in the election or maybe they just stay home.
 
2012-08-01 06:57:13 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: HeartBurnKid: Tellingthem: Just another "outrage of the month". Just like Kony 2012, it will quickly be forgotten and we can move on to next one. We do have a facebook/internet forum witty poster industry to support...

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you don't care about anybody but yourself.

Wow, you're so cool and awesome the way you think that I don't care about anything because I posted a comment on how this is the new internet outrage and that people will find something else to be outraged about next month. But hey if you feel the need to judge me and make assumptions about me then go ahead. The internet really isn't serious business after all.

Judge everyone else. Make assumptions about everyone else.
[Scumbag Steve.jpg]
Whine about others judging and making assumptions about me.

If the Chick Fil A thing goes on for more than one month then you were right and I was wrong. If it fades out though with no meaningful change and some other thing has captured the hearts and minds of the internet...(say In 'N Out, or some other African warlord) then I was right and you were wrong. Either way I'm sure both of us will forget about it and be complaining about something else or calling other people "cool and awesome" in a sarcastic tone.

Regardless whether it's about Chick-Fil-A or something else, you'll still be in every thread to talk about how cool and disinterested you are, and make a big production about how little you care, so I guess you at least have consistency on your side.


And you will be right there to complain that anyone who talks negatively about a fad protest is "cool and disinterested". So I guess we are just cut from the same cloth. Anyway, want to start a facebook/internet forum witty poster business with me? If we are both going to be doing the same things over and over we might as well make some money in the process.
 
2012-08-01 07:00:10 PM  

Buffalo77: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x539]


Not really, those people just decreased their odds of making it to November by clogging their arteries with more shiat.
 
2012-08-01 08:45:13 PM  
SN1987a goes boom




Buffalo77: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x539]

Not really, those people just decreased their odds of making it to November by clogging their arteries with more shiat.



You can hope. In fact, why don't you pray to the Lord that this will happen. I'm sure that in accordance with your values.
 
2012-08-01 11:32:27 PM  
I posted this elsewhere, my local paper had a article about the turn out at our local Chick-Fil-A's...

People are idiots.

The article in my local paper is full of win...

Link

Just some quotes...

"I patronized Chick-fil-A because of all the controversy," said Bob Mason, of Middletown, as he walked out of the restaurant in the Governors Square Shopping Center on U.S. 40. "I'm against any discrimination....it's un-American. The family is the bedrock of our society. If people don't like it, they don't have to eat here."

"We need to stand up for our beliefs and traditions," Read said. "We don't hate gays, we love them. We just don't believe in their beliefs. That's their choice..."
 
2012-08-01 11:33:16 PM  
Feel free to join in the comments there, I already had someone ask me where I got my baseless claim that Chick-Fil-A discriminates...
 
2012-08-01 11:49:58 PM  

Buffalo77: SN1987a goes boom

Buffalo77: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x539]

Not really, those people just decreased their odds of making it to November by clogging their arteries with more shiat.


You can hope. In fact, why don't you pray to the Lord that this will happen. I'm sure that in accordance with your values.


Praying won't effect the fact that eating fast food is bad for you.
 
2012-08-02 01:37:54 AM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: No one's asking you to picket them with protest signs and bad folk songs, but maybe it's not too much to ask for something just a bit smaller that would still let you have a nice lunch?


I vote against the laws that bigots propose and the politicians who back them.

That makes a hell of a lot more difference than wringing my hands over whether a tenth of a penny from my sandwich went to an organization I don't agree with.

/Besides, Wendy's chicken is like rubber.
 
2012-08-02 03:26:14 AM  

Tellingthem: And you will be right there to complain that anyone who talks negatively about a fad protest is "cool and disinterested". So I guess we are just cut from the same cloth. Anyway, want to start a facebook/internet forum witty poster business with me? If we are both going to be doing the same things over and over we might as well make some money in the process.


You two can start with this:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-08-02 03:41:28 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: He's entitled to his shiatty opinion and he can do what he wants with his business.


He absolutely is entitled to do whatever he wants (though I'm not sure what being a private company has to do with that). Just like everyone who doesn't want this dude to have any more money to spend on his political causes can refuse to do business with him.
 
2012-08-02 04:48:53 AM  

profplump: He absolutely is entitled to do whatever he wants (though I'm not sure what being a private company has to do with that).


Everything, actually. If the company is privately owned by Dan Cathy, it's literally his company. It doesn't belong to shareholders and investors. If it were a publicly-traded company, the president or CEO or whatever his position would be, would be beholden to the interests of the shareholders. Effectively he'd be supporting some rather unpleasant causes with other people's investments.

//I'm not really sure why nearly everyone who replied to my initial statement had to say something about protestors having the right to boycott.
//No shiat, Sherlock. It is absolutely your right to not eat at CFA in protest. But it's still a token gesture.
//The guy is already most likely a multi-millionaire thanks to his business. Denying him a few thousand is mainly a feel-good measure.
 
2012-08-02 11:42:21 AM  

beta_plus: Even if hitler owned chick-fil-a, I'd still buy their breakfast burrito.


And you'd still be an asshole.
 
2012-08-02 12:55:29 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: //I'm not really sure why nearly everyone who replied to my initial statement had to say something about protestors having the right to boycott.


Might have something to do with CFA supporters going on and on about "censorship" and "thought police" and "freedom of religion" and "freedom of speech" and what not.
 
2012-08-03 05:36:57 AM  

Jodeo: natazha: "the biblical definition of the family unit,"

So, where are my concubines?

The bible is chock full of sinners. Don't confuse their breaking of God's plan with permission to go and do likewise. It was Adam and Eve, not Abraham and Sarah and Hagar and his Concubines.

God hates divorce, too. Just sayin'.


Soooooo just A-OK with incest that sounds so much better.....

unless there were others in the "garden" that is what you are saying.
 
2012-08-03 06:51:01 AM  

Buffalo77: SN1987a goes boom

Buffalo77: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 720x539]

Not really, those people just decreased their odds of making it to November by clogging their arteries with more shiat.


You can hope. In fact, why don't you pray to the Lord that this will happen. I'm sure that in accordance with your values.



Why pray, wish, cast magic incantations, or whatever you want to believe; when looking at all that white hare in that picture? I can't see many of them living through to many more elections, with or without all that salt intake. No malice in pointing out the truth.
 
2012-08-03 02:24:47 PM  

Cheesus: Dougie AXP: Cheesus: PanicMan: *snip*

Cheesus: where is this Wendy's located? I'd like to make sure their general manager gets a good biatch slapping.

I believe it's the one in Hickory, NC on US 70.


The one in Biltmore Village (Asheville) has John 3:16 on a plaque by the register, and plays Christian rock on their speakers. Now that I think of it, I've seen that plaque in just about every Wendy's I've been in. I still like their chicken nuggets, though.

Re: Chik-fil-a, It's easy for me to avoid eating there. I think their chicken is horrible. Good waffle fries, but horrible chicken.
 
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