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2012-07-30 11:33:21 PM  
3 votes:
Wow, that's a terribly written article.
2012-07-31 01:15:34 AM  
2 votes:

GreenAdder: Why didn't Batman lower the goddamn rope once he got to the top of the pit? He could have helped the people who helped him.
And don't say, "those prisoners deserved to be in there." How do you know that? Bane farking put them in there. Do you think he's a good arbiter of right and wrong?


He did lower the ropes that were tethered to the top of the pit. Remember, he didn't use one to climb out. He was helping the other prisoners get out.

Jesus, was everyone checking their Facebook status during this farking movie?
2012-07-30 11:08:12 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: My problem with the articles I've been seeing is that they try to elevate personal dislike or minor errors into a gross artistic mistake. Just like Jim Emerson's disgraceful video about how The Dark Knight had, like, totally crappy editing, this isn't about the movies. It's about appointing oneself the supreme arbiter of taste above all those disgusting little plebs.

I really couldn't have agreed with that more. There's quite a few Farkers that think that their opinions are the final word on everything. The comment is usually filled with a lot of name calling and cries to the heavens about how they're the only ones stuck with the intellectual burden of telling all of us how we should really feel about a movie.
2012-07-31 09:37:52 AM  
1 vote:
Just thought I'd chip in and repeat a comment I've read on another forum:

(Paraphrasing) The timer on the "bomb" wasn't counting down to detonation, just to when the core would become unstable, so it's feasible that Batman actually had more time to get away from Gotham.

You might argue that that's incorrect, but personally I think if you're prepared to drag up various articles and journal articles about the behavior of fusion reactors, then you're really going out of your way to not enjoy yourself.

/Enjoyed the film, quibbles and all
//Only thing that bothers me is I would have liked another movie to slip in before the League of Shadows return
2012-07-31 08:34:54 AM  
1 vote:
I thought I b*tched about a lot of stupid stuff, but after reading this thread.......
2012-07-31 08:32:26 AM  
1 vote:
Much of what is said in the article is true. I never saw "plot holes" in the film, just some subjective choices or things which strained my disbelief. Frankly, my slight problem with what seems to be the biggest strain for many, the back injury, is this could have been approached in a manner better fitting into the story of revenge, the atmosphere of the prison, and Bruce's concern for his own inability after the death of Rachel all while never straining disbelief. The injury should have been primarily psychological with loss of function of his legs. He has just been "broken" by Bane, been betrayed by Selina, failed to save Gotham, given the keys to Gotham's destruction to a terrorist organization, and is thousands of miles away in an inescapable prison; the physical healing is short, but he is mentally crippled. Just a thought with the benefit of hindsight.

Bigger issue is Catwoman. Hard to argue Anne Hathaway out of a film, especially one where she wears quite high heels and some black latex outfit, but Catwoman should not have been in the film. She brought Batman to Bane in an uninteresting set of scenes which did nothing to help develop the sense of either Bane or Batman; rather, Batman seemed gullible by having no contingency and blundering straight in through the tunnels. She destroyed some barriers in two seconds which frankly could've been done with supplies from Gordon or Batman or else the several months of time everyone had. Her character requires including another element in the film with the "Clean Slate" (Bruce never needs this as he "died"). With her, we never get an ambiguous ending, because you know a movie where Bruce escapes alone would not include Alfred flying off to find him and him sitting in a cafe somewhere. Last and worst, she kills Bane in terrible fashion; what an anticlimactic end to him.

She had unnecessary scenes throughout (negatively influencing the pacing and making the film feel laborious for some) and detracted from several characters. Plus, she was the campiest part of the whole film.

There, got that off my chest.
2012-07-31 08:15:37 AM  
1 vote:
Bain's Stock Scam Would Never Work In The Real World

But it did to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars
2012-07-31 07:44:27 AM  
1 vote:
The movie is an utter failure. Having Bane be the big bad guy and then only later discovering that he is just the lapdog of some evil woman completely ruins his character. Nothing he does is actually part of his plan. That means he's not a genius, only hired muscle. He's also apparently 50 years old if he was that much older than talia when they escaped.

Why does talia stay in character right up until the end when Batman shows up as a surprise? Once they were sure Batman was never coming back wouldn't Talia have told the world who she really was? It's almost like she was just going to hide until the bomb exploded.

Manhattan has a population of 8 million and has 35,000 uniformed police officers. Gotham has a population of 12 million and apparently 3000 police officers. Poor civic planning.

Not only does Batman managed to get the bomb over the Bay far too quickly, I am also curious about how he seems to escape the blast radius in under one minute. Does he engage his new we fixed autopilot and then hit the supersonic ejector seat which blasts him away 6 miles in under one minute?

Why the fark is there a countdown timer on the fusion core?

Isn't making Wayne manner into an orphanage a risky proposition? What if a child finds the Batcave? I would hate to see an eight-year-old get a hold of all those bat-weapons.

Why does Bruce Wayne go off and live with a serial criminal who we have seen murder several people and steal many things and betray many many more people? I know it's Anne Hathaway, but seriously?

Why if Alfred is so concerned about Bruce being killed, does he leave making Bruce more vulnerable and likely to be killed?

Why, if Batman ceased being Batman eight years ago is Bruce so badly injured? It seems like he only ever had two major fights in his life. First he dealt with the scarecrow then he dealt with the Joker. Hardly enough to completely ruin a man's body. At least in this comic book world. That kind of damage would be accumulated from a lifetime of doing this sort of thing. Not doing it for two years and then giving it up.

Why did driving over the bridge kill talia immediately but leave 60-year-old already injured recently hospitalized Commissioner Gordon alive?

Why did Batman blowup the top of that skyscraper simply to clear it when he's in a vertical takeoff and landing vehicle? Most citizens of gotham we're still holed up in their homes at the time of him leaving, therefore he may have killed hundreds of people simply because he had to stop and kiss Catwoman before taking off. What a jerk.
2012-07-31 01:43:46 AM  
1 vote:
and please, climbers enlighten me. Farking Tom Cruise did his own stunts on a cliff face for MI3 that went upside down. This was a straight cylinder that looked to have plenty of crags for handholds. Why the leap? Why not just keep climbing a perfectly level wall with plenty of texture for handholds? particularly for ninjas like Bruce Wayne, Talia Al Gul, and Bane
2012-07-31 01:33:25 AM  
1 vote:

Imperious Rex!: BafflerMeal: Digitalstrange: GreenAdder: Why didn't Batman lower the goddamn rope once he got to the top of the pit? He could have helped the people who helped him.
And don't say, "those prisoners deserved to be in there." How do you know that? Bane farking put them in there. Do you think he's a good arbiter of right and wrong?

he didn't wear the rope the final time. That was the point. If you wore the rope you had a safety net.

Except for the *giant* pile of coiled rope right by the edge at the top as he climbed out that he chose not to lower back in...

Yeah....except that he did throw that giant pile of coiled rope back down into the pit.


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2012-07-31 01:30:38 AM  
1 vote:

Digitalstrange: GreenAdder: Why didn't Batman lower the goddamn rope once he got to the top of the pit? He could have helped the people who helped him.
And don't say, "those prisoners deserved to be in there." How do you know that? Bane farking put them in there. Do you think he's a good arbiter of right and wrong?

he didn't wear the rope the final time. That was the point. If you wore the rope you had a safety net.

Now just like the "how did he get back to Gotham with no resources?" questioners I will accept a rebuttal of "He's the goddamn Batman, he could've found a way to make it happen if he wanted" response to that. He could've found something to drop down to them


Something like the rope that he clearly did drop down to them in that scene?
2012-07-31 01:27:17 AM  
1 vote:

BafflerMeal: Digitalstrange: GreenAdder: Why didn't Batman lower the goddamn rope once he got to the top of the pit? He could have helped the people who helped him.
And don't say, "those prisoners deserved to be in there." How do you know that? Bane farking put them in there. Do you think he's a good arbiter of right and wrong?

he didn't wear the rope the final time. That was the point. If you wore the rope you had a safety net.

Except for the *giant* pile of coiled rope right by the edge at the top as he climbed out that he chose not to lower back in...


Yeah....except that he did throw that giant pile of coiled rope back down into the pit.
2012-07-31 12:08:09 AM  
1 vote:
ummm farking blood transfusion anyone?


Gee we have a corpse, fark the dental records, fark the hair, lets grab a little bit of blood that couldn't possibly have mixed with other blood and use that to DNA test this motherfarker.
2012-07-31 12:07:18 AM  
1 vote:
The problem with TDKRises, and the whole trilogy, is not that it's bad, it's that for some reason it's billed as absolutely farking brilliant when in fact it's just a well-executed summer action flick with some decent effects and writing that's pretty OK, if a bit on the simple and generic side.

It's like the guy bragging about his twelve-inch penis and bodybuilder physique for hours and hours at the bar. If he ends up just being a moderately talented and athletic lover of similarly moderate endowment, chances are his partner is going to end up disappointed even though under normal conditions that'd be a pretty good end to the night.

What I'm saying here is that it's impossible to write a non-sexual analogy about any movie with someone playing Catwoman in it. Except the Catwoman movie, that was just farking terrible.
2012-07-31 12:02:21 AM  
1 vote:
How about how easily the barricades were blown apart? One or two small rockets blows through one or two cars and people can leave the city, and cops are free from the subways? They had THREE months and they couldn't move these tiny amounts of debris? Pathetic.

Bane must have had them kill every engineer and everyone with common sense or any construction skills/knowledge whatsoever.

And how did those cops survive down there for three months without doughnuts? Totally unrealistic. They would have made a suicide pact after 2 days and had the biggest Mexican Standoff this side of the cartels.
2012-07-30 11:54:26 PM  
1 vote:

God Is My Co-Pirate: Very minor quibble: I enjoyed Bane's rousing anarchist speech while he's arranging to break the prison open. The speech rises to a dramatic crescendo, with all the prisoners shouting and cheering and drumming...and then I realized Bane is actually just standing outside by himself, monologuing in front of a half-dozen terrified, silent journalists.

(Why didn't the prison guards turn off the tvs? I can't imagine that most prisoners, no matter how violent, would be all too happy about being released from jail only to be trapped in the city where, presumably, some of them have their own families and friends.)

Props to the actor playing Bane, though. It can't be easy to convey that much emotion with half your face covered.


Only half his face? Try your whole face:

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2012-07-30 10:33:02 PM  
1 vote:
Very minor quibble: I enjoyed Bane's rousing anarchist speech while he's arranging to break the prison open. The speech rises to a dramatic crescendo, with all the prisoners shouting and cheering and drumming...and then I realized Bane is actually just standing outside by himself, monologuing in front of a half-dozen terrified, silent journalists.

(Why didn't the prison guards turn off the tvs? I can't imagine that most prisoners, no matter how violent, would be all too happy about being released from jail only to be trapped in the city where, presumably, some of them have their own families and friends.)

Props to the actor playing Bane, though. It can't be easy to convey that much emotion with half your face covered.
2012-07-30 10:09:22 PM  
1 vote:

scottydoesntknow: How Does Bruce Wayne Get Back to Gotham With No Resources?

He's the f***ing Batman. Seriously, if any fictional character could pull this one off, it's the f***ing Batman. Stop whining.

Ok, this one made me laugh.


My girlfriend and I discussed this at length (as well as some of the others). The dude lived off the grid for 7 years in his youth. If anything, Bruce Wayne is resourceful. He was broke...but he really wasn't broke. He was also very rich. What do the very rich like to do with their money? Put it in offshore accounts. It's more than likely that he had stashed millions in offshore accounts only known to him (which also explains the ending in more ways than one).

As for boning Miranda Tate...hell yes he would have. I don't know how anyone could say he wouldn't have. He was broke, alone, and isolated....he probably would have boned someone a lot less hot and rich if they were available.

As for the stock exchange business. That would eventually be overturned but by the time order was restored to Gotham, Bruce Wayne was dead.
2012-07-30 09:49:54 PM  
1 vote:
Fusion doesn't explode. Hydrogen bombs only explode because a fission bomb is used first to make the hydrogen detonate in a very big and uncontrolled fusion reaction that ends fairly quickly but is epic in scale.

A fusion reactor would have so little material inside that even if we all farked off and just let that shiat blow up, it probably wouldn't even damage the reactor itself. Especially considering that it's really hard to make things keep fusing. Atoms don't spontaneously do that without stellar amounts of gravity.

So the whole premise of "We've got a nuke." is silly. Even if you could make it thus, it wouldn't work like that. At best, it would be anchored to the reactor at all times.
 
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