Jim_Callahan: but also kind of the one sane man who realizes he's in a stupid action movie/comic strip on some subconscious level and makes the conscious decision to roll with it and swing for the fences. The sheer quantity of farks not given always makes this sort of character a fan favorite in a medium aimed primarily at 13-25-year-olds that like movies about punching shiat.
Imperious Rex!: BafflerMeal: Digitalstrange: GreenAdder: Why didn't Batman lower the goddamn rope once he got to the top of the pit? He could have helped the people who helped him.And don't say, "those prisoners deserved to be in there." How do you know that? Bane farking put them in there. Do you think he's a good arbiter of right and wrong?he didn't wear the rope the final time. That was the point. If you wore the rope you had a safety net.Except for the *giant* pile of coiled rope right by the edge at the top as he climbed out that he chose not to lower back in...Yeah....except that he did throw that giant pile of coiled rope back down into the pit.
serial_crusher: Also keep in mind that we never see that there are any incompetent cops, just cops who aren't privy to the same information the audience is and jerk cops.Um, they sent the entire police force into the sewers to look for Bane? That's pretty incompetent. Even if he hadn't trapped them down there, who were they counting on to stop all the regularly scheduled crimes happening on the surface?
beerdini: The plot hole that slightly bugs me is the bat cave. If Bruce hasn't been Batman since the end of the last movie which was 8 years before this movie, why bother even building the cave?
Wellon Dowd: I want to know why Superman left a con trail.
The All-Powerful Atheismo: Therefore, if there were some way to actually create a fusion reaction, which there must be given that it is a fusion reactor we're talking about, it would probably explode with just as much if not more energy than a conventional fission reactor could.
Tiber727: How did Bane know about the secret warehouse under Wayne Enterprises?If your greatest fear about a prototype nuclear reactor is that it can be turned into a weapon, why make it removable from the container that prevents that from happening? And why build this fancy display that will perfectly count down to when it blows up?How did that copter manage to outrun missiles anyway?And lastly, why did Batman decide to forgo the use of pretty much all gadgets to engage the bad guy in a straight-up fistfight?
SomeAmerican: SilentBobCDN: My girlfriends biggest issue with TDKR was a two parter:First, about the likelyhood of the helicopter travelling at least 3 miles out into the ocean carrying the aforementioned "bomb" in the short period of time (I didnt have time to get my stopwatch out to time it) before it exploded, leading me to...Secondly, no one commented at all about what massive damage that bomb has done to the Atlantic, or the fallout that is likely to rain back on New Yo- I mean Gotham.We were bothered by this too. If I remember right, in the movie they said the fusion reactor had been converted into a 400 megaton bomb. Which then detonated safely a few miles from the city.Except that a much smaller 25 megaton bomb would level everything in a 10 mile radius. Plus, if you are downwind, the fallout will kill anything within 90 miles within a few days. Oh, and the 500 mph shock wave would cause a tsunami.Also, it was really impressive how their unstable, decaying reactor had such a precise timer on it, counting down over months to the exact moment it would lose containment and blow.
scottydoesntknow: Now my one issue with the movie?How Lt. Gordon is still alive at the end when he was trapped in a giant metal box with a highly radioactive bomb. The truck could set off geiger counters from the outside, yet he's climbing all over it and planting radio blockers on it and falling off bridges with it.He should've at least been losing hair by the end.
alwaysjaded: FTFA: My problem with the articles I've been seeing is that they try to elevate personal dislike or minor errors into a gross artistic mistake. Just like Jim Emerson's disgraceful video about how The Dark Knight had, like, totally crappy editing, this isn't about the movies. It's about appointing oneself the supreme arbiter of taste above all those disgusting little plebs.I really couldn't have agreed with that more. There's quite a few Farkers that think that their opinions are the final word on everything. The comment is usually filled with a lot of name calling and cries to the heavens about how they're the only ones stuck with the intellectual burden of telling all of us how we should really feel about a movie.
Samwise Gamgee: Was it Bane and Talia's plan to die along with the bomb explosion all along? Why would they make a plan like that?
StrangeQ: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Therefore, if there were some way to actually create a fusion reaction, which there must be given that it is a fusion reactor we're talking about, it would probably explode with just as much if not more energy than a conventional fission reactor could.Want to know how I know you know nothing about how fission reactors work?Fission reactors don't explode due to a runaway chain reaction of a critical mass chunk of fissile material. Fission reactors "explode" when the controlled fission reaction loses control, the rods overheat and the cooling water surrounding them boils away and creates a high pressure steam that eventually builds to the point that it overwhelms the concrete containment shell and explodes. If you were to remove the containment shell ahead of time and drain all the water, the fuel rods would overheat and melt, releasing massive amounts of radiation in the process, but there would be no explosion, just a very hot hole in the ground.The only way the exploding fusion cell makes any sense at all is if the fusion reaction were entirely contained within the piece they removed and it was being held in check by some sort of electromagnetic containment also powered solely by the piece they removed. One could be powered by the other IF there was some way of converting the energy released by the fusion reaction directly into electricity, but using today's standards, that's even more far fetched that creating the fusion reactor to begin with. But even then it couldn't possibly be using ALL of the energy released, so it would have to go somewhere as waste heat, meaning the entire thing would turn into a pool of molten slag the moment it was removed. If the cell output was reduced to a level that it was only powering the containment then there wouldn't be much left for a city-leveling explosion.
Slaxl: There is one huge problem with this film that I'm not sure anyone has addressed. The ending was set up nicely (or scarily) for a future film based on Robin, the boy wonder... I really hope they don't.
doglover: Fusion doesn't explode. Hydrogen bombs only explode because a fission bomb is used first to make the hydrogen detonate in a very big and uncontrolled fusion reaction that ends fairly quickly but is epic in scale.A fusion reactor would have so little material inside that even if we all farked off and just let that shiat blow up, it probably wouldn't even damage the reactor itself. Especially considering that it's really hard to make things keep fusing. Atoms don't spontaneously do that without stellar amounts of gravity.So the whole premise of "We've got a nuke." is silly. Even if you could make it thus, it wouldn't work like that. At best, it would be anchored to the reactor at all times.
chopit: The trilogy, and especially the Batman franchise, deserved better than to have everything tied up with a pretty bow. Let him be dead, ffs. More emotional impact that way, and then you know it's farking over.
Britney Spear's Speculum: They didn't really address what happened to Joker. And yes, I know they couldn't very well have a flashback to a scene where batman or someone offs The Joker for the obvious reason.
Mugato: Britney Spear's Speculum: They didn't really address what happened to JokerThere's not much to say, he's sitting in Arkham Asylum. I don' think Bane let those people out.
chopit: Just saw it last night. My only complaint was the hollywood ending. The trilogy, and especially the Batman franchise, deserved better than to have everything tied up with a pretty bow. Let him be dead, ffs. More emotional impact that way, and then you know it's farking over./oh, and fallout. Those people were still farked.
rtaylor92: My only two real "wtf" moments were Gordon surviving in the back of that truck when it crashed and in the second fight, Bane punching through concrete pillars during their second fight. I can pretty much overlook everything else but those two things, for whatever reason, really bothered me.
Bullseyed: Scarecrow was the judge, wasn't he?
Solon Isonomia: The one continuity error that bothered me was the motorcycle chase. Starts off in the middle of the day and ends in the dead of night despite the program needing only minutes, not hours, to be complete.
thecpt: Yeah I didn't have any problems really with "plot holes," just that continuity error. It could make sense considering they could have been in that tunnel for awhile, but no way it goes from that bright before the market closes to that dark unless its the dead of winter which it wasn't
Mugato: thecpt: Yeah I didn't have any problems really with "plot holes," just that continuity error. It could make sense considering they could have been in that tunnel for awhile, but no way it goes from that bright before the market closes to that dark unless its the dead of winter which it wasn'tDidn't notice that. Hard to believe that could happen in a $250mill movie.
ODDwhun: So, wait, you were OK with the constantly stoned body-builder, the decades-away fusion reactor, the insane helicopter, the city totally cut off from the rest of America by a terrorist, and the high-level jewel thief in a unitard on the motorcycle with the spinny wheel firing Howitzer shells, but the guy in the Batsuit getting over a broken back in a few months... that's what bothers you, Captain Scientific Accuracy?I loled.So in a trilogy that is supposed to be "realistic" we're supposed to accept this just cuz?
odinsposse: Samwise Gamgee: Was it Bane and Talia's plan to die along with the bomb explosion all along? Why would they make a plan like that?Because they're fanatics. Talia was willing to die to fulfill her father's ideas. Bane was willing to die for Talia.
Funbags: Was there any particular reason the prisoners in the pit couldn't just haul a couple long planks of wood to bridge the gap of that ledge?
scottydoesntknow: rtaylor92: My only two real "wtf" moments were Gordon surviving in the back of that truck when it crashed and in the second fight, Bane punching through concrete pillars during their second fight. I can pretty much overlook everything else but those two things, for whatever reason, really bothered me.Hey I was wondering how Gordon survived all that radiation exposure.I chalked Bane's punching power up to a combination of pain and adrenaline. He just had his mask punctured/broken by Batman, so the pain he was experiencing would be immeasurable. Add in the adrenaline from the pain and the massive fight, and it's not entirely unbelievable he could knock some plaster off a pillar. It wasn't like he punched straight through them.
SpoilerAlert: Funbags: Was there any particular reason the prisoners in the pit couldn't just haul a couple long planks of wood to bridge the gap of that ledge?I was told in another thread yesterday it was because there were no Home Depots down there.Bane kept sending down food and shaving kits down to the police force that he was going to blow up anyway because he's a nice guy and who cares it's about a movie where a dude dresses up as a bat.
GreenAdder: Why didn't Batman lower the goddamn rope once he got to the top of the pit? He could have helped the people who helped him.And don't say, "those prisoners deserved to be in there." How do you know that? Bane farking put them in there. Do you think he's a good arbiter of right and wrong?
Nayman: The movie is an utter failure. Having Bane be the big bad guy and then only later discovering that he is just the lapdog of some evil woman completely ruins his character. Nothing he does is actually part of his plan. That means he's not a genius, only hired muscle. He's also apparently 50 years old if he was that much older than talia when they escaped.
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