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(Guardian)   Twitter suspends British journalist's account for tweets critical of NBC's Olympic coverage. Of course this has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter's deal with NBC to be the "Official narrator" of the games   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 108
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2012-07-31 12:14:38 AM

IsNoGood: I fail at spelling, no doping will help that ...


Au contraire. Doping helped me to read your post without becoming angry.
 
2012-07-31 12:16:27 AM

IsNoGood: Last I check most public and private companies good or bad, or in this case meaning less, have a right to do what they want,

I have the right to say I don't sell you coffee and Qitter as the right to disable anybody account any time they like
they have no rules, you guys live in a fantasy world, that been a small one made up of 132 Ansi blocks


www.emptyblue.it
 
2012-07-31 12:28:06 AM
Just off the top of my head:

You're not allowed to advertise your nonofficial product during the games if there's an official version of it.

You're not allowed to use any credit card besides the official credit card at the games.

You're not allowed to bring a nonofficial product anywhere near the games. Drop that Pepsi, citizen.

You're not allowed to use the words "London" or "2012" in advertisements whilst in London in the year 2012 if you're not an official sponsor.

God forbid you should use the word "Olympic" or even something sort of similar, no matter what the purpose. (Google "ravelympics" for the terrible threat posed by knitters to amateur athletics.)

British law enforcement, never all that constrained by quaint notions of civil liberties in the first place, have been granted powers that the Stasi would be jealous of, for the purpose of ensuring that no one "disrupts" the games--including, explicitly, the "disruption" caused by nonofficial mention of the games.

It's essential to the integrity of the London Games that McDonald's be the only french fry vendor in town for the duration of the games. (If you failed to foresee that one day your restaurant would be within a certain distance of the Olympic village, well, tough beans, old boy.)

And now, you're not allowed to criticize the coverage of the official cover-er of the games on the official ...whatever Twitter is of the games.

I don't even pay that much attention and I know about these things. That's not even getting into the sorta-debatable stuff like whether it's necessary to have SAMs mounted on the rooftops of private residences, etc.

I know it's not exactly an original sentiment, but maybe it's time to go back to the farking drawing board on this Olympics shiat? I mean, it's fun seeing field hockey on TV like it was a real sport every four years, but it's not worth all this crap.
 
2012-07-31 12:36:55 AM
I don't have cable or a digital tuner so I'm not allowed to watch the Olympics this year. Our UK proxy was too laggy and I'm too lazy and cheap and don't care enough to try any harder than that to get coverage. NBC could have had my internet ad revenue but they decided they care more about hanging on to the ever dwindling cable market. Well fark you NBC. I'm skipping the Olympics this year.
 
2012-07-31 12:46:44 AM

untaken_name: IsNoGood: I fail at spelling, no doping will help that ...

Au contraire. Doping helped me to read your post without becoming angry.


Why angry International Olympic Committee, member, Marqués de Samaranch perhaps you need to update
you pocket guide to start with The Death of a Catalan Fascist, http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/04/23/the-death-of-a-catalan-fascist/

Oh wait you angry because of ?
 
2012-07-31 12:48:15 AM

Litig8r: I'm still puzzled by all the NBC biatching. Just set up a VPN to a server


wat?


sincerely,
folks like me who are not techies


your argument is the same as folks who say just buy all the premium channels. there's an economic divide, and there's a technological divide at work here. NBC, here in the States, is supposed to bridge that divide between the haves and have nots, and the specialists and the general pop. Instead, they insult viewers intelligence, which is not at all the same thing as bridging a divide.

making folks cough up money in a bad recession ain't the answer.

neither is assuming that folks have the tech skills to do what you suggest without a lot of instruction.

not downing you, just asking to remember...................... not everyone is a techie.
 
2012-07-31 12:48:52 AM

thisisyourbrainonFark: [memedepot.com image 500x406]


I have never seen a douchier photo in my life. Wow. What is the story behind that photo?
 
2012-07-31 12:52:32 AM
I have a better idea: After watching a couple days of Olympics, let's suspend ALL the sportscasters. The inane comments and dumber interviews make watching fun sports into a torment of lower Hell.

"So how does it feel to have won the gold medal?"
"Meh, it's okay. I'd rather be skinned alive by tigers, but this will do."
 
2012-07-31 12:53:43 AM
that's funny; I can watch the olympics live if I want, I just have to stay up till the wee hours of the morning to do so. Like the night/morning the opening ceremonies were on. And I watched them on ROOT, not the main NBC station(there was another station, too, with different events). Maybe it is different with the finals ...

/watched the NBC coverage of the gymnastics competition.
//had to hit the mute button 3 minutes in, the commentary was so inane.
///do the commentators know they are just filler between the music, or do they think their thoughts actually matter?
 
2012-07-31 12:54:14 AM

IsNoGood: untaken_name: IsNoGood: I fail at spelling, no doping will help that ...

Au contraire. Doping helped me to read your post without becoming angry.

Why angry International Olympic Committee, member, Marqués de Samaranch perhaps you need to update
you pocket guide to start with The Death of a Catalan Fascist, http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/04/23/the-death-of-a-catalan-fascist/

Oh wait you angry because of ?


The point was that I was not angry. Normally, attempting to read posts such as yours would anger me, but due to the doping I did earlier, it just made me smile. I hope this helps clear up the confusion.
 
2012-07-31 12:54:19 AM
the email address posted was corporate email. firstname.lastname at nbc.com, or whatever. No worse than posting Dumb-Ass-Monkey at ultrafark.com

not worth an account suspension.
 
2012-07-31 01:01:03 AM
Oh wait you angry because of ?

The point was that I was not angry. Normally, attempting to read posts such as yours would anger me, but due to the doping I did earlier, it just made me smile. I hope this helps clear up the confusion.

Yes, it did, I do know that I need to draft things, then post them after 10min and check ones more, bu then Im in a hurry today,

I btw think the delay thing is funny, I get my TV from torrents, and yesterday I had the time to watch the opening, the full version not the US one, bit late, but still ok, for the sports,,,,,, sport is something you do, not something you look at.....
 
2012-07-31 01:01:25 AM

StrandedInAZ: T-Servo: I think Twitter would have had to suspend a great many accounts this weekend if they were really censoring criticisms.

If I had a Twitter, they'd have definitely had to suspend mine. I am completely underwhelmed by their coverage this year. Although I can watch online, I have had buffering issues, and I'd really rather watch in my home theater. The tape delay is even more annoying for me because a lot of my friends are on the East Coast. So not only do I have to avoid standard websites where I'd see results, I also have to avoid Facebook. It's difficult not to have the results spoiled.

Don't even get me started on their horrible "coverage" of the opening ceremony. What a disaster.


How can you even think about watching the Olympics when you have to be at the gym in 26 minutes?
 
2012-07-31 01:03:35 AM

davidphogan: RogermcAllen: Thanks for the info. It seems like a pretty hard sell that any corporate firstname*lastname[nospam-﹫-backwards]ynapmoc*com address is actually private.

Go ahead and call some fortunate 500 companies and ask the operator for a VP's email. Go ahead, see how public they are.


Step 1 - Open the internet
Step 2 - Search for "annual+report+company"
Step 3 - Flip to the section where the list the CEO, CFO, CIO, execs, board members, etc.
Step 4 - Open the internet again
Step 5 - Search for "contact+company"
Step 5 - Note what the company uses for the @company.com portion of the email
Step 6 - Send an email to first­name*l­ast­n­ame[nospam-﹫-backwards]y­n­ap­m­o­c*c­om, use the names of the excecs

99% of the time it really is that easy.
 
2012-07-31 01:11:08 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: thisisyourbrainonFark: [memedepot.com image 500x406]

I have never seen a douchier photo in my life. Wow. What is the story behind that photo?


Really?

cache.gawker.com

Seriously?

pysih.com

Truly?

mitchieville.com

CdreamSB about the latter:

I recently dreamt he, a novice on the slopes, boarded away from his security guards near me as we progressed toward a ravine and that I guided/shoved him off the cliff.

/I guess that would be an ITGdreamCSB
 
2012-07-31 01:21:36 AM

RogermcAllen: davidphogan: RogermcAllen: Thanks for the info. It seems like a pretty hard sell that any corporate firstname*lastname[nospam-﹫-backwards]ynapmoc*com address is actually private.

Go ahead and call some fortunate 500 companies and ask the operator for a VP's email. Go ahead, see how public they are.

Step 1 - Open the internet
Step 2 - Search for "annual+report+company"
Step 3 - Flip to the section where the list the CEO, CFO, CIO, execs, board members, etc.
Step 4 - Open the internet again
Step 5 - Search for "contact+company"
Step 5 - Note what the company uses for the @company.com portion of the email
Step 6 - Send an email to firstname[* image 7x13]lastname[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]ynapmoc[* image 7x13]com, use the names of the excecs

99% of the time it really is that easy.


This is great advice, kudos, no snark.
 
2012-07-31 01:24:37 AM

flamingboard: r1niceboy: My dog could shiat better coverage than NBC is currently serving up.

Also, I notice that ESPN are keen to talk up the flaws of NBC's efforts. Maybe they should have bid more when the offers were being solicited.

Not everyone has ESPN. Anyone can get NBC over the air.


No, no they can't.
 
2012-07-31 01:24:50 AM

Gyrfalcon: I have a better idea: After watching a couple days of Olympics, let's suspend ALL the sportscasters. The inane comments and dumber interviews make watching fun sports into a torment of lower Hell.

"So how does it feel to have won the gold medal?"
"Meh, it's okay. I'd rather be skinned alive by tigers, but this will do."


hmmm. 1 minute 10 seconds. Great minds ...

throw the commentators into a pit
cover pit
let sit for 2 weeks
come back and see who is alive
throw in some pit vipers
enjoy the screams
 
2012-07-31 01:32:23 AM

libranoelrose: Gyrfalcon: flamingboard: Insane_Cellist: Or it could have something to do with posting someone's email addy

Their email addresses were firstname[* image 7x13]lastname[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]sserddaliame[* image 7x13]com. Not really that private.

Still not an excuse for posting them, you know.

According to Twitter's terms of service it was a damn good excuse.

Unless of course that was the first time the email had ever been published on the internet, which I doubt.


It wasn't. THe journalist (and a lot of other people) got the NBC Olympics President's email address from NBC's own site, where it is still visible. Lots of NBC execs have visible corporate emails posted on the web.

So in no way was it a violation of Twitter's TOS. It would be, I suppose, a violation of Fark's TOS, but Twitter is not Fark.
 
2012-07-31 01:37:17 AM
Were none of the complaining people alive two years ago to be aware of any of the prior Olympics, or are we dealing with tens of thousands of two year olds with access to Twitter? Serious question.
 
2012-07-31 01:49:09 AM

Atypical Person Reading Fark: libranoelrose: Gyrfalcon: flamingboard: Insane_Cellist: Or it could have something to do with posting someone's email addy

Their email addresses were firstname[* image 7x13]lastname[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]sserddaliame[* image 7x13]com. Not really that private.

Still not an excuse for posting them, you know.

According to Twitter's terms of service it was a damn good excuse.

Unless of course that was the first time the email had ever been published on the internet, which I doubt.

It wasn't. THe journalist (and a lot of other people) got the NBC Olympics President's email address from NBC's own site, where it is still visible. Lots of NBC execs have visible corporate emails posted on the web.

So in no way was it a violation of Twitter's TOS. It would be, I suppose, a violation of Fark's TOS, but Twitter is not Fark.


I figured that was the case.

I guess Gyrfalcon has me on ignore or something, or he would have come back and corrected himself.
 
2012-07-31 01:53:46 AM
1) Download TunnelBear (PC and Mac)
2) Create account, choose the free 450MB setting
3) In TunnelBear click on the switch to swap from US to UK
4) Visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/2012/live-video
5) Enjoy the non-NBC Olympic coverage

Once the free bandwidth runs out after a few hours decide if you want to spring the $4.99 for the free month. Hence, pay $5 and see the entire Olympics from a superior broadcast and then cancel at the end. Or keep it. Whatevs.
 
2012-07-31 01:59:11 AM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net



you are watching NBC
 
2012-07-31 02:13:42 AM

theurge14: $4.99 for the free month.


?????
 
2012-07-31 03:32:14 AM
It's as if NBC is encouraging me to seriously consider piracy.
 
2012-07-31 03:35:51 AM

libranoelrose: Atypical Person Reading Fark: libranoelrose: Gyrfalcon: flamingboard: Insane_Cellist: Or it could have something to do with posting someone's email addy

Their email addresses were firstname[* image 7x13]lastname[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]sserddaliame[* image 7x13]com. Not really that private.

Still not an excuse for posting them, you know.

According to Twitter's terms of service it was a damn good excuse.

Unless of course that was the first time the email had ever been published on the internet, which I doubt.

It wasn't. THe journalist (and a lot of other people) got the NBC Olympics President's email address from NBC's own site, where it is still visible. Lots of NBC execs have visible corporate emails posted on the web.

So in no way was it a violation of Twitter's TOS. It would be, I suppose, a violation of Fark's TOS, but Twitter is not Fark.

I figured that was the case.

I guess Gyrfalcon has me on ignore or something, or he would have come back and corrected himself.


I was BUSY. I do other things besides waste time on Fark. I was...playing. MW2. Again.

And I don't Twit, so I'm totally ignorant of their policies. You're right, of course.
 
2012-07-31 03:54:52 AM

stiletto_the_wise: I wonder if any broadcaster could get away with tape-delaying the Super Bowl. Somehow it's OK for the Olympics, I guess... Screw NBC.


Timezones... how do they work?
 
2012-07-31 04:00:43 AM
You know, if you think about it - every olympics, there's some amount of time zones where the viewer is extremely inconvenienced.

However, delaying it?

That's way lame.
 
2012-07-31 04:22:36 AM

IsNoGood: Yes, it did, I do know that I need to draft things, then post them after 10min and check ones more, bu then Im in a hurry today,
...


No offense, friend, but meow said the dog does this schtick WAY better than you.
 
2012-07-31 04:40:53 AM
I still don't get why NBC insisted you had to have a cable install to stream the games. They must have lost a fortune. I happily paid 4 euro to stream Eurosport to my ipad for the month. No fuss, no muss! I have the RTE player for free and BBC on my TV. BBC's coverage is the best by far.

I'm crazy jealous of my mate in the UK who can stream a whole bunch of BBC cameras at the same time, zooming in on his favourite sports whenever he wants. The services BBC offer the UK are just stunning. It's a shame BBC America couldn't offer the same services in the US.
 
2012-07-31 05:49:25 AM

CrispFlows: You know, if you think about it - every olympics, there's some amount of time zones where the viewer is extremely inconvenienced.

However, delaying it?

That's way lame.


Is this your first Olympics?
 
2012-07-31 07:13:28 AM

semiotix: Just off the top of my head:

You're not allowed to advertise your nonofficial product during the games if there's an official version of it.

You're not allowed to use any credit card besides the official credit card at the games.

You're not allowed to bring a nonofficial product anywhere near the games. Drop that Pepsi, citizen.

You're not allowed to use the words "London" or "2012" in advertisements whilst in London in the year 2012 if you're not an official sponsor.

God forbid you should use the word "Olympic" or even something sort of similar, no matter what the purpose. (Google "ravelympics" for the terrible threat posed by knitters to amateur athletics.)

British law enforcement, never all that constrained by quaint notions of civil liberties in the first place, have been granted powers that the Stasi would be jealous of, for the purpose of ensuring that no one "disrupts" the games--including, explicitly, the "disruption" caused by nonofficial mention of the games.

It's essential to the integrity of the London Games that McDonald's be the only french fry vendor in town for the duration of the games. (If you failed to foresee that one day your restaurant would be within a certain distance of the Olympic village, well, tough beans, old boy.)

And now, you're not allowed to criticize the coverage of the official cover-er of the games on the official ...whatever Twitter is of the games.

I don't even pay that much attention and I know about these things. That's not even getting into the sorta-debatable stuff like whether it's necessary to have SAMs mounted on the rooftops of private residences, etc.

I know it's not exactly an original sentiment, but maybe it's time to go back to the farking drawing board on this Olympics shiat? I mean, it's fun seeing field hockey on TV like it was a real sport every four years, but it's not worth all this crap.


While a lot of what you say is true there are a couple of errors. McDonald's can only enforce the fries exclusivity within Olympic sites, not "in town". Having a Pepsi in your bag wouldn't matter, only a noticeable Pepsi t shirt that could be used for a flash mob event, as has happened, and been banned, in earlier Olympics.
And as for "British law enforcement, never all that constrained by quaint notions of civil liberties in the first place", England had Magna Carta in 1215, centuries before the US was even discovered, and considering the number of cop brutality and thuggishness examples frequently posted on Fark it's pushing it to complain about British cops.
 
2012-07-31 07:28:36 AM

Flint Ironstag: England had Magna Carta in 1215, centuries before the US was even discovered


You also abandoned it before we did, to be fair.
 
2012-07-31 07:39:52 AM
The Olympics are like Disney World. Completely fabricated and synthetic, controlled by a megacorp, and if you say bad things about it, you find yourself surrounded by goons and lawyers.

By 2032, I imagine the Olympics will have morphed into a reality show, The Earth's Got Talent, except we won't put up with that, so in the U.S. it will be called USA's Got Talent The Rest of the World Can Suck It USA! USA!.
 
2012-07-31 07:52:43 AM
Spike Lee tweets the wrong address for George Zimmerman's parents; does his account get suspended? Of course not.
 
2012-07-31 07:59:05 AM

Flint Ironstag: And as for "British law enforcement, never all that constrained by quaint notions of civil liberties in the first place", England had Magna Carta in 1215, centuries before the US was even discovered.


Yeah, great for the barons and dukes and lords, not particularly helpful for the serfs, or the Jews for that matter.
 
2012-07-31 08:31:25 AM

david_gaithersburg: Were none of the complaining people alive two years ago to be aware of any of the prior Olympics, or are we dealing with tens of thousands of two year olds with access to Twitter? Serious question.


You are correct, we are dealing with tens of thousands of corporate officers with access to Twitter. Serious answer.
 
2012-07-31 08:35:45 AM

r1niceboy: My dog could shiat better coverage than NBC is currently serving up.


What's wrong with it?
I have three cable channels and online streaming of all events.

/You have to be proactive in creating a life experience that you find fulfilling and satisfying -- nobody is going to do it for you.
//Beyond that, it's farking teevee, dude.
///You get what you pay for.
 
2012-07-31 08:37:38 AM
Also, if corporations are people, and the poor victimized dude is part of the NBC corporation, he's just a segment of the corporation and doesn't have full rights as a person.
 
2012-07-31 08:37:52 AM

davidphogan: RogermcAllen: Thanks for the info. It seems like a pretty hard sell that any corporate firstname*lastname[nospam-﹫-backwards]ynapmoc*com address is actually private.

Go ahead and call some fortunate 500 companies and ask the operator for a VP's email. Go ahead, see how public they are.


Or you can just use google.
 
2012-07-31 08:52:54 AM

untaken_name: theurge14: $4.99 for the free month.

?????


Full month. Full. Sorry, it was late. MEAR TYPOES.
 
2012-07-31 08:54:30 AM

DesktopHippie: I still don't get why NBC insisted you had to have a cable install to stream the games. They must have lost a fortune.


NBC has to pander to their local affiliates. This is what drives most ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX's seemingly ridiculous decisions like this, and this is why their business model has needed to change for a long time now.
 
2012-07-31 08:55:50 AM

semiotix: I mean, it's fun seeing field hockey on TV like it was a real sport every four years, but it's not worth all this crap.


Great post until that last line - field hockey is one of the few real sports I enjoy watching. Its a true sport, not a corporation in disguise with employees doing their jobs to entertain the paying masses. Mind you I would prefer to be watching the Hockey World Cup rather than seeing the teams play within the clearly fascist environment of the IOC.

If the Olympics are going to continue along this all-in-the-name-of-the-mighty-dollar path, I think its time governments rethink their funding/support of sporting institutes - since the product they are producing no longer seems for the benefit of the whole community but for the viewing pleasure of the special few and the aggrandisement of even fewer.
 
2012-07-31 08:56:34 AM

theurge14: untaken_name: theurge14: $4.99 for the free month.

?????

Full month. Full. Sorry, it was late. MEAR TYPOES.


Oh, ok. That makes a lot more sense. Thank you.
 
2012-07-31 09:10:03 AM
theodopolis 13,

Here is a link to show you how to watch online.

Link
 
2012-07-31 09:20:54 AM

HotIgneous Intruder: r1niceboy: My dog could shiat better coverage than NBC is currently serving up.

What's wrong with it?
I have three cable channels and online streaming of all events.

/You have to be proactive in creating a life experience that you find fulfilling and satisfying -- nobody is going to do it for you.
//Beyond that, it's farking teevee, dude.
///You get what you pay for.


What's wrong with it? Bravo's doing a good job with tennis, but as for the rest, it's like the producers have ADHD. "Here's somebody lifting a barbell, and here's some Chinese people doing something athletic, and this man shot a gun, and this is water polo, we don't play that, I think, and all Hail Amy Wambach, and this is some British people rowing a boat, and I've just been informed it's Abby Wambach, and the Columbian woman who hit her has been suspended. After these messages we'll gloat some more and then it's off to catch the second half of the US women's basketball team beat up on someone who only just started playing the sport last week.

I have been proactive in avoiding all that, I'm streaming completely live coverage from other sources (BBC or Aussie BC) that don't involve having to wait for primetime ad space to see the stuff I want to, that is, when it's not Bob Costas giving so many reacharounds that his right arm looks like an orangutans. They manage to cover what needs to be covered in real time, with good pacing, and focus on the medal events for enough time to learn what's going on, all the dynamics of the sport, and who's doing well or sinking. It also kind of helps, that they spend enough time talking about these sports outside a three week space every four years that they have less catching up to do. I don't pay for this, but would if I could, as they deserve my money.
 
2012-07-31 09:51:58 AM
The way this kind of thing usually works:

1) Restrict some sort of freedom during the event
2) "Investigate" and "Review" the situation until the event ends
3) Say "ooops, our bad" AFTER the event is over

Works for arbitrary arrests too!
 
2012-07-31 10:14:15 AM

untaken_name: Flint Ironstag: England had Magna Carta in 1215, centuries before the US was even discovered

You also abandoned it before we did, to be fair.


There are many areas where people in the UK have more rights and freedom than people in the US. Magna Carta is still the root of basic law today. If you go bankrupt, for example, you keep your tools of trade. That is directly from Magna Carta. Ditto right to speedy and fair trial, right to see the evidence against you, etc.
 
2012-07-31 10:20:21 AM

Speaker2Animals: Flint Ironstag: And as for "British law enforcement, never all that constrained by quaint notions of civil liberties in the first place", England had Magna Carta in 1215, centuries before the US was even discovered.

Yeah, great for the barons and dukes and lords, not particularly helpful for the serfs, or the Jews for that matter.


Have you read Magna Carta? I doubt keeping your tools of trade if made bankrupt was much use to a Lord....
 
2012-07-31 10:40:51 AM

T-Servo: I think Twitter would have had to suspend a great many accounts this weekend if they were really censoring criticisms.


yep, i think the only twit i tweeted was in regards of the twats that nbc was allowing to talk over the Olympics
 
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