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2012-07-31 07:47:15 AM
A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many peopel on fark have a problem with that.



Chimperror2: Last time I checked, Israel was a nation state. And Palestine was farked by Jordan, Syria and Egypt. Palestine GDP is probably less than those three countries too.


It is now (I think) but it was ggrowing faster than any of them prior tot he 2nd infatada. Even up to 05 they were doing better than most their arab neighhbors. They benefited a lot from trade with Israel, but Israel had to end that due to suicide bombings, gunmen, etc.
 
2012-07-31 08:18:17 AM

nekulor: Chimperror2: Last time I checked, Israel was a nation state. And Palestine was farked by Jordan, Syria and Egypt. Palestine GDP is probably less than those three countries too.

/Lets give Syria to Palestinians but I suspect the Muslims would have an issue with this.

The problem is, like anyone kicked out of their house by a deadbeat distant relative who disappeared for a number of years, they kind of want their own house back. They don't want someone else's house.


Jordan is not letting them back in.
 
2012-07-31 08:20:24 AM

Bucky Katt: Chimperror2: Last time I checked, Israel was a nation state. And Palestine was farked by Jordan, Syria and Egypt. Palestine GDP is probably less than those three countries too.

/Lets give Syria to Palestinians but I suspect the Muslims would have an issue with this.

Geographically, Gaza could go to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan, but the Palestinians don't want that. They want a country of Palestine. The only question for them is how to get it. The Palestinian Authority has signed on to the Oslo accords while Hamas prefers terrorism.


Geographically, they used to be Egypt and Jordan and the terrorism was directed against Egypt and Jordan.
 
2012-07-31 08:24:27 AM

Nadie_AZ: Repost from the other Romney in Israel thread:

His other stupid for the trip:

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney angered Palestinian leaders on Monday when he suggested here that the Israeli economy had outpaced the economy of the Palestinian territories in part because of advantages of "culture."

....

Romney said he had studied a book called "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations," searching for an answer about why two neighboring places--the U.S. and Mexico, for instance, or Israel and the Palestinian areas--could have such disparate prosperity.

"Culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference," Romney said, repeating the conclusion he drew from that book, by David Landes.

The book he read- I've not read it. It highlights these points, apparently:

The 'cultural thesis' or 'Protestant work ethic' of Max Weber
The 'hydraulic thesis' or 'Oriental Despotism thesis' of Karl A. Wittfogel
The 'climate thesis' that posits that tropical climes are, ceteris paribus, poor candidates for development.
Many of the theories of Adam Smith, whose Wealth of Nations is borrowed from for the title. But this does not necessarily mean a doctrinaire neoclassicism, as Landes notes that 'comparative advantage' can change over time, and also that developed countries, contrary to neoclassical theory, typically developed in an environment of protectionism against foreign trade.

Just to toss in: Critics have charged Landes with Eurocentrism in his analysis, a charge which Landes himself does not deny-in fact, he embraces it explicitly, arguing that an explanation for an economic miracle that happened originally only in Europe (though he deals with the later 'Asian miracle' in Wealth and Poverty) must of necessity be a Eurocentric analysis

Link

I've read Why The West Rules - For Now, and it makes much more sense:

His 2010 book, Why the West Rules--For Now, compares East and West across the last 15,000 years, arguing that physical geography rather than cultu ...

Guns, Germs, and Steel

is another one that makes more or less the same point, but did it more than a decade ago and with positively exhaustive research.
 
2012-07-31 08:29:04 AM

liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many peopel on fark have a problem with that.


How does that compare to a culture which gives the mentally retarded the death penalty?
 
2012-07-31 08:52:05 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many peopel on fark have a problem with that.


How does that compare to a culture which gives the mentally retarded the death penalty?


Well that is illegal in the US since 2002 and has been illegal in most states for many years before that, however I am aware of no law making it illegal in Palestine, and they have been known to use mentally handicapped people to set off suicide bombs.

So I am not sure how this helps your view of their culture but I am sure you will walk away thinking they are still equal.
 
2012-07-31 08:53:21 AM

hillbillypharmacist: vernonFL: Romney the the NAACP: African Americans excel at sports because back in slavery times, they used to breed them to be strong.

I don't want to reveal myself as an ignorant racist or anything, but is that actually true? It makes sense, but I've never heard anyone talk about it in an objective sort of way.


No it isn't true. There was no "breeding" of slaves in that way, and most slave-owners across most of the slave-owning period left issues of marriage and sex to their slaves, with the caveats that they be thanked for being so magnanimous as to allow a marriage, and that they can do whatever they want to either spouse, sexual or otherwise, at any moment. A similar disinterest in the personal lives of the people they held in bondage touched on their every act in regard to them; the breaking up of families through sale was more often than not the result of simple callousness and ignorance on the part of the slave-owner, not willful cruelty(though if you ask me that makes it even worse). If there is any superior physicality in African Americans, and I doubt very much that there is, it would probably be more a result of the weaker individuals among those enslaved dying during the crossing of the Atlantic, or under the harsh conditions of slave labor. The latter, by the way, is why the African slave trade started in the first place; so many Native Americans died under the conditions of their enslavement in the Caribbean and mainland America that the Spanish and Portuguese started looking for a new source of slaves and hit upon Africa. Of course, the slave-trade was at its biggest and most terrible when the English were running it, so don't let the fact that the Spanish and Portuguese started it lead you to absolve our forebears of their responsibility for that wicked business.

Having said all that, near the end of the Slave-holding era, after the importation of new slaves had been banned and the US navy had begun actual patrols to enforce that law, some owners did try to increase their income by "supplying" the slave market, but nothing I've ever read has led me to believe that ever reached an "industrial" scale, or that anyone ever had any great success attempting it. I could simply have never read the right books, of course, so if anyone's ever read any material that deals with this subject specifically, a response would be appreciated.
 
2012-07-31 08:55:34 AM

nigeman: The British press put it best

Romney's charm offensive is devoid of charm and mildly offensive


I liked the Sun's "Mitt the Twit" as well. You can always count on the English tabloid press for succinct putdowns.
 
2012-07-31 09:00:24 AM

intelligent comment below: gaspode: Catsaregreen: LargeCanine: Romney is right.

Some people can't handle the truth.


I have a friend who was married to a middle-class Palestinian from Israel, and she agrees completely with this. There are two types of Palestinians: The middle-class ones who have done their best to share Israeli values. They're successful. And then there's the white-trash version of Palestinians who live in the West Bank, won't let their women work or their girls gain an education, and then wonder why their economy is in the crapper.

So what your friend is suggesting is that every poor palestinian in the west bank or gaza moves to Israel, where they will be given acceptance, citizenship and a fair crack at making a middle class life for themselves? That israel will allow this, and your friends relatives will be delighted to see their compatriots join in the rich pickings just waiting for them to start pulling their bootstraps?


Palestinians face far worse discrimination in neighboring countries. They can't even hold a job in Lebanon.


They can't even drive on most roads in Israel, so I don't see how that's worse. Then there's the whole "bulldozing their trees to make room for settler apartment buildings" that the Israelis do, and denying them access to water, and kicking them out of homes in East Jerusalem at gun point that their family has held for generation so the State can give those homes to the Hasidim. Don't even get me started on the disgrace that is Israeli family law.
 
2012-07-31 09:10:47 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many peopel on fark have a problem with that.


How does that compare to a culture which gives the mentally retarded the death penalty?

Well that is illegal in the US since 2002 and has been illegal in most states for many years before that, however I am aware of no law making it illegal in Palestine, and they have been known to use mentally handicapped people to set off suicide bombs.

So I am not sure how this helps your view of their culture but I am sure you will walk away thinking they are still equal.


Oh, we are talking about the Palestinians? I didn't get that impression since you talked about a culture which executes people for blasphemy. Palestinian law allows no such thing.
 
2012-07-31 09:24:30 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many people on fark have a problem with that.


How does that compare to a culture which gives the mentally retarded the death penalty?

Well that is illegal in the US since 2002 and has been illegal in most states for many years before that, however I am aware of no law making it illegal in Palestine, and they have been known to use mentally handicapped people to set off suicide bombs.

So I am not sure how this helps your view of their culture but I am sure you will walk away thinking they are still equal.

Oh, we are talking about the Palestinians? I didn't get that impression since you talked about a culture which executes people for blasphemy. Palestinian law allows no such thing


Palesternian law allows it, or else why would it be legal in Gaza for enemies of Islam to be crucified?

And the conversation was for "support". I don't have a poll for Palestine handy but if they are antyhing liekt heir neighbors, then yes they support it. http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-o n-hamas-and-hezbollah/ When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law
 
2012-07-31 09:32:17 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many people on fark have a problem with that.


How does that compare to a culture which gives the mentally retarded the death penalty?

Well that is illegal in the US since 2002 and has been illegal in most states for many years before that, however I am aware of no law making it illegal in Palestine, and they have been known to use mentally handicapped people to set off suicide bombs.

So I am not sure how this helps your view of their culture but I am sure you will walk away thinking they are still equal.

Oh, we are talking about the Palestinians? I didn't get that impression since you talked about a culture which executes people for blasphemy. Palestinian law allows no such thing

Palesternian law allows it, or else why would it be legal in Gaza for enemies of Islam to be crucified?

And the conversation was for "support". I don't have a poll for Palestine handy but if they are antyhing liekt heir neighbors, then yes they support it. http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-o n-hamas-and-hezbollah/ When asked about the death penalty for those who leave the Muslim religion, at least three-quarters of Muslims in Jordan (86%), Egypt (84%) and Pakistan (76%) say they would favor making it the law



It is amazing how your ignorance and hatred of Muslims and especially Palestinians interact. Palestinian law does not allow it.

If the conversation was about support, not legality, you may want to revisit your response about executing the mentally handicapped.
 
2012-07-31 09:40:47 AM

liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

Pretty farking pathetic how many peopel on fark have a problem with that.



Chimperror2: Last time I checked, Israel was a nation state. And Palestine was farked by Jordan, Syria and Egypt. Palestine GDP is probably less than those three countries too.

It is now (I think) but it was ggrowing faster than any of them prior tot he 2nd infatada. Even up to 05 they were doing better than most their arab neighhbors. They benefited a lot from trade with Israel, but Israel had to end that due to suicide bombings, gunmen, etc.


Yeah, those Palestinians should just accept the fact that Israel considers them 2nd class citizens.
 
2012-07-31 09:59:46 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: It is amazing how your ignorance and hatred of Muslims and especially Palestinians interact. Palestinian law does not allow it.


So gaza isn't palestine?

Ok.


Jake Havechek: Yeah, those Palestinians should just accept the fact that Israel considers them 2nd class citizens


You should accept the fact they aren't Israeli citizens, nor do they really want to be.
 
2012-07-31 10:00:59 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: If the conversation was about support, not legality, you may want to revisit your response about executing the mentally handicapped


So what, exactly, are you basing your implication that americans support the execution of the retrated on?
 
2012-07-31 10:05:15 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: ignorance and hatred of Muslims


I am so used to your BS this slipped through the cracks. You denying basics facts presented by reputable polling companies doen't mean I am ignorant or hate muslims, but if it makes you feel better to think that rather than face reality, have fun with that cupcake.
 
2012-07-31 10:07:25 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: It is amazing how your ignorance and hatred of Muslims and especially Palestinians interact. Palestinian law does not allow it.

So gaza isn't palestine?

Ok.




Gaza is Palestine. Palestinian law still does not allow execution for Blasphemy.
 
2012-07-31 10:14:33 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: It is amazing how your ignorance and hatred of Muslims and especially Palestinians interact. Palestinian law does not allow it.

So gaza isn't palestine?

Ok.


Gaza is Palestine. Palestinian law still does not allow execution for Blasphemy.


So what would you call crucifiction for being an enemy of Islam?
 
2012-07-31 10:15:29 AM

CynicalLA: Skullcrusher hates being wrong and will do anything not to admit it. And he's never been funny.


how can I hate something I don't know? That would be ignorant.
 
2012-07-31 10:18:01 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: It is amazing how your ignorance and hatred of Muslims and especially Palestinians interact. Palestinian law does not allow it.

So gaza isn't palestine?

Ok.


Gaza is Palestine. Palestinian law still does not allow execution for Blasphemy.

So what would you call crucifiction for being an enemy of Islam?


A myth spread by hate mongers.
 
2012-07-31 10:24:40 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers


So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.
 
2012-07-31 10:35:14 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers

So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.


I'm sure you have a citation to this fine publication.
 
2012-07-31 10:50:27 AM

Marcus Aurelius: What a complete dickhead.


Yep, Romney is a dickhead, it explains so much.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-31 10:51:36 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers

So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.

I'm sure you have a citation to this fine publication.


Well it said soemthing you don't like, so by your definition they "hate muslims", but this will get you started.
 
2012-07-31 10:54:17 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers

So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.

I'm sure you have a citation to this fine publication.

Well it said soemthing you don't like, so by your definition they "hate muslims", but this will get you started.


Did anyone else notice that the first thing to pop up in Google for this is a bunch of right-wing blogs and NOT the actual article in question.
 
2012-07-31 10:54:49 AM

NINDroog: http://rense.com/general94/soc.htm


You may be right, but you might want to reconsider using rense.com as a source for *anything*.
 
2012-07-31 11:03:41 AM

Mrtraveler01: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers

So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.

I'm sure you have a citation to this fine publication.

Well it said soemthing you don't like, so by your definition they "hate muslims", but this will get you started.

Did anyone else notice that the first thing to pop up in Google for this is a bunch of right-wing blogs and NOT the actual article in question.


I wonder why looking for it in english wouldn't turn up the original article...
 
2012-07-31 11:08:22 AM

liam76: Mrtraveler01: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers

So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.

I'm sure you have a citation to this fine publication.

Well it said soemthing you don't like, so by your definition they "hate muslims", but this will get you started.

Did anyone else notice that the first thing to pop up in Google for this is a bunch of right-wing blogs and NOT the actual article in question.

I wonder why looking for it in english wouldn't turn up the original article...


So the only thing you got to go on is heresay from a bunch of right-wing blogs.

Sounds legit.
 
2012-07-31 11:12:47 AM

Mrtraveler01: So the only thing you got to go on is heresay from a bunch of right-wing blogs.

Sounds legit


Jerusalem post covered it when it came out, and there are a number of groups that translat arabic media that back up what the "right-wing blogs" say. But believe what you want. I am sure you think the pew poll linked above was faked as well.
 
2012-07-31 11:18:41 AM

liam76: Jerusalem post covered it when it came out,


Then why didn't you link to that lazy ass?

Jersualem Post is a lot more credible than sites like Free Republic.
 
2012-07-31 11:28:32 AM

quizzical: Romney's most incompetent quality as a politician is his failure to understand that, even if what he plans to say is perfectly calculated to pander to his present audience, people OUTSIDE THE ROOM are going to learn what he said. And then he has to come up with a retraction to pander to all those other people.


I've often said of the older politicians; they don't fully realize that everything they say, write, or do is not only being recorded, it's being distributed world wide and it's search-able. Romney isn't that old, he should have a better handle on this concept.
 
2012-07-31 11:38:45 AM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: A myth spread by hate mongers

So Al-Hayat, an arabic paper owned by Saudi's and published in London is a "hate monger" against muslims.

Interesting.

I'm sure you have a citation to this fine publication.

Well it said soemthing you don't like, so by your definition they "hate muslims", but this will get you started.


So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual.
 
2012-07-31 12:47:04 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual


There were a number of citations there. You just choose to ignore them, as you choose to ignore the results of the pew poll.


Mrtraveler01: Then why didn't you link to that lazy ass?

Jersualem Post is a lot more credible than sites like Free Republic


Because I have been through this with dishonest pieces of shiat like you and queeg many times in the past. You can easily get the JPost reference with the link I gave, I am not going to go out of my way to point soemthing out to you that you will just ignore.
 
2012-07-31 12:52:47 PM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual

There were a number of citations there. You just choose to ignore them, as you choose to ignore the results of the pew poll.


Nope, no citations at all. A blog claiming a source said something with no link to that source is not a citation.

It was, however, an interesting insight into the sources of your ignorance and fear.
 
2012-07-31 12:59:38 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual

There were a number of citations there. You just choose to ignore them, as you choose to ignore the results of the pew poll.

Nope, no citations at all. A blog claiming a source said something with no link to that source is not a citation.

It was, however, an interesting insight into the sources of your ignorance and fear.


Wasn't too hard to find
 
2012-07-31 01:01:22 PM

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual

There were a number of citations there. You just choose to ignore them, as you choose to ignore the results of the pew poll.

Nope, no citations at all. A blog claiming a source said something with no link to that source is not a citation.

It was, however, an interesting insight into the sources of your ignorance and fear.

Wasn't too hard to find


nothing about blasphemy though.
 
2012-07-31 01:06:39 PM

skullkrusher: Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual

There were a number of citations there. You just choose to ignore them, as you choose to ignore the results of the pew poll.

Nope, no citations at all. A blog claiming a source said something with no link to that source is not a citation.

It was, however, an interesting insight into the sources of your ignorance and fear.

Wasn't too hard to find


Huh, what do you know, no death penalty for blasphemy as Liam claimed.

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The bill reserves death sentences to people who negotiate with a foreign government "against Palestinian interests" and engage in any activity that can "hurt Palestinian morale."


I'm sure you will join me in condemning Liam's lie.
 
2012-07-31 01:16:17 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: So the answer is "No I don't have any citation for my fear mongering propaganda" as usual

There were a number of citations there. You just choose to ignore them, as you choose to ignore the results of the pew poll.

Nope, no citations at all. A blog claiming a source said something with no link to that source is not a citation.


A blog? It was a Google search with hundreds of hits and you call it "a blog"?


Philip Francis Queeg: It was, however, an interesting insight into the sources of your ignorance and fear.


You left hatred off your list of baseless lies about me.


skullkrusher: nothing about blasphemy though




There are more links out there that translate the whole Al-Hayat article (as well as translations of video of Hammas officials), but even without that what do you think Sharia based punishment for blasphemy is?
 
2012-07-31 01:18:03 PM

FlashHarry: i used to think mitt was smart and that i just disliked him for his unctuous pandering.

now i'm realizing that he's an upper-midwest dubya - a harvard-educated, multimillionaire moron who was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.




This.

I really thought he was a actual smart guy just posing as an "Aw shucks, I don't know the answer to that simple question, but gosh darnit I just love America" patriot/moron.

He truly is Dubya II.
 
2012-07-31 01:18:19 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: The bill reserves death sentences to people who negotiate with a foreign government "against Palestinian interests" and engage in any activity that can "hurt Palestinian morale."

I'm sure you will join me in condemning Liam's lie


You don't think that covers blasphemy?
Why would you, a google search is a "blog" and linking a pew poll showing negative things abotu muslims means I hate them.
 
2012-07-31 01:30:07 PM

liam76: There are more links out there that translate the whole Al-Hayat article (as well as translations of video of Hammas officials), but even without that what do you think Sharia based punishment for blasphemy is?


the link says specifically that death is only applicable for people who "negotiate with a foreign government 'against Palestinian interests' and engage in any activity that can 'hurt Palestinian morale.'" so unless you're going to argue that blasphemy could be construed as an activity which hurts Palestinian morale, this is utter horseshiat
 
2012-07-31 01:40:27 PM

skullkrusher: liam76: There are more links out there that translate the whole Al-Hayat article (as well as translations of video of Hammas officials), but even without that what do you think Sharia based punishment for blasphemy is?

the link says specifically that death is only applicable for people who "negotiate with a foreign government 'against Palestinian interests' and engage in any activity that can 'hurt Palestinian morale.'" so unless you're going to argue that blasphemy could be construed as an activity which hurts Palestinian morale, this is utter horseshiat


There are videos of some of the lawmakers talking abotu it on-line, can't see them now as I am at work, but I will try later if I get a chance.

That being said, put your self in the shoes of the people who voted for this. You just voted in a system of law that includes stoning for adultery and chopping off hands for thievery, do you really think treating blasphemy as bad for the morale fo your people is a big stretch?
 
2012-07-31 01:45:18 PM

liam76: There are videos of some of the lawmakers talking abotu it on-line, can't see them now as I am at work, but I will try later if I get a chance.


tribalinsight.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-31 02:03:58 PM

Mrtraveler01: liam76: There are videos of some of the lawmakers talking abotu it on-line, can't see them now as I am at work, but I will try later if I get a chance.

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So Palestenian lawmakers creating Sharia laws which are in-line with the prevailing attitudes among muslims in the region (as shown by the pew poll) is on par with UFO's to you?

You are more of an idiot than I thought.

And no I don't "want to believe" it would be great if I could bury my head in the sand and pretend that people don't actually believe backward shiat like you should be killed for blasphemy, or women should be stoned for infidelity, but I have seen too much of the world for that nonsense, and evenif I haven'ty I am not so farking blinded by PC bullshiat that I refuse to believe pew polls on the subject.
 
2012-07-31 04:57:44 PM

liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.


How about one that depends on apartheid?
 
2012-07-31 04:58:57 PM

liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: The bill reserves death sentences to people who negotiate with a foreign government "against Palestinian interests" and engage in any activity that can "hurt Palestinian morale."

I'm sure you will join me in condemning Liam's lie

You don't think that covers blasphemy?
Why would you, a google search is a "blog" and linking a pew poll showing negative things abotu muslims means I hate them.


It could cover broadcasting a Cubs game. Next week you'll be claiming that the Palestinians crucify people for watching baseball.

Of course you will be claiming that with a deep love and respect for Muslims.
 
2012-07-31 07:05:50 PM

Heron: They can't even drive on most roads in Israel, so I don't see how that's worse. Then there's the whole "bulldozing their trees to make room for settler apartment buildings" that the Israelis do, and denying them access to water, and kicking them out of homes in East Jerusalem at gun point that their family has held for generation so the State can give those homes to the Hasidim. Don't even get me started on the disgrace that is Israeli family law.



That's because they aren't Israeli citizens. You don't automatically have a right to move freely in another country, especially if you do not belong to a country yourself and the leaders of your political parties actively support terrorism against Israel.

Most were not kicked out of Israel proper in the first place, most were displaced during the wars started by the Arab neighbors and are really from Egypt, Lebanon or Jordan.
 
2012-07-31 08:01:32 PM

Uncle Tractor: liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

How about one that depends on apartheid?


I know you are fundamentally incapable of telling the truth on anything relating to Israel but a military occupation isn't an apartheid. It was defined in the Rome Statute of the ICC and the UN as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them." If you could stop reading stormfront for a few minutes you would realize to fit that description they would have to be opressing their arab citizens. A good example would be Jordan's treatment of Palestinians, or even better the treatment of non-mulsims in Palestine.


Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: The bill reserves death sentences to people who negotiate with a foreign government "against Palestinian interests" and engage in any activity that can "hurt Palestinian morale."

I'm sure you will join me in condemning Liam's lie

You don't think that covers blasphemy?
Why would you, a google search is a "blog" and linking a pew poll showing negative things abotu muslims means I hate them.

It could cover broadcasting a Cubs game. Next week you'll be claiming that the Palestinians crucify people for watching baseball.



IS there any poll showing that muslims in the region are pro-death penalty for things like watching baseball?

Philip Francis Queeg: Of course you will be claiming that with a deep love and respect for Muslims


I am sorry you think that because I cite pew poll about muslims means I hate them. Maybe one day you will grow up and stop pretending anybody who thinks all religions aren't exactly the same isn't some hate monger.
 
2012-07-31 10:09:36 PM

liam76: Uncle Tractor: liam76: A culture that supports the death penalty for blasphemy is inferior to one that doesn't.

How about one that depends on apartheid?

I know you are fundamentally incapable of telling the truth on anything relating to Israel but a military occupation isn't an apartheid. It was defined in the Rome Statute of the ICC and the UN as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them." If you could stop reading stormfront for a few minutes you would realize to fit that description they would have to be opressing their arab citizens. A good example would be Jordan's treatment of Palestinians, or even better the treatment of non-mulsims in Palestine.


Philip Francis Queeg: liam76: Philip Francis Queeg: The bill reserves death sentences to people who negotiate with a foreign government "against Palestinian interests" and engage in any activity that can "hurt Palestinian morale."

I'm sure you will join me in condemning Liam's lie

You don't think that covers blasphemy?
Why would you, a google search is a "blog" and linking a pew poll showing negative things abotu muslims means I hate them.

It could cover broadcasting a Cubs game. Next week you'll be claiming that the Palestinians crucify people for watching baseball.


IS there any poll showing that muslims in the region are pro-death penalty for things like watching baseball?

Philip Francis Queeg: Of course you will be claiming that with a deep love and respect for Muslims

I am sorry you think that because I cite pew poll about muslims means I hate them. Maybe one day you will grow up and stop pretending anybody who thinks all religions aren't exactly the same isn't some hate monger.


Well, it's not like you have a long history of posting anti-Muslim progaganda. Oh wait, yes it is. That's exactly who you are. Fark's premier anti-Mulsim hatemonger.
 
2012-07-31 10:14:23 PM
I don't see where Romney's statement is inaccurate. You fartlibtards are denying Israel has a culture advantage over Palestine? All things considered (aforementioned blockades, etc), right or wrong, you deny that Israel has it better? Your farklibtardpoliticstaboutrage has blinded you.

For FSM's sake, you all are a bunch of koolaid drinking idiots.
 
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