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2012-07-30 09:17:32 PM  

rocky_howard: 4.- Lucius is going to keep providing him with tech.


I see people have taken care of three. As for four, The company is probably in shambles. The out side world has been running but the entire decision making staff for Wayne Enterprises has been not making any for a few months. I am not entirely sure what happens with all of Wayne's stock, but I am pretty sure he doesn't have it which means there is a lot of stock out there that wasn't and you are probably going to see a huge change in leadership, not to mention the whole R and D department has been raided and I doubt a CEO, even Lucias, is going to pour resources of a poor performing company on a guy just because he was the last owners friend.
 
2012-07-30 09:20:31 PM  
I liked the movie, but it's no Arkham City.
 
2012-07-30 09:22:24 PM  

rocky_howard: Six_By_Nine: rocky_howard: 3.- Bruce left a fortune to Blake.

What fortune? He was so dead-broke that they turned off his electricity pretty much the day he went bankrupt (which admittedly was kinda silly - not how that sort of thing works)

Huh? It was under my impression during the epilogue that he got his money back. After all, Wall Street can turn back a transaction if it's proven to be fraudulent.

He turned the Wayne Manor into a foster house for orphans and designated funds from Wayne Enterprises to fund it (remember that such things had stopped due to Wayne Enterprises not being profiting much after the nuclear generator fiasco).

And more importantly: How do you think he was paying for his sight-seeing trip around the world that took him to that Italian café where Alfred found him?


Regarding turning back the transaction, yeah, because that was a big to-do during the five months that Gotham was under lockdown and the rightful owner of the money was dead. I'm sure that was on top of someone's priority list to set right after everything got back to normal. Beats me how Wayne Manor wasn't repossessed, despite the will.

As for the sightseeing trip, meh. I regarded that the same way as I regarded him getting back to Gotham with no money: he knows how to survive. Plus, if he was with Selina after that, who says he wasn't living off money she had?
 
2012-07-30 09:34:48 PM  

Mugato: Strolpol: I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.

I think he wanted Bane to find him as soon as possible so he could beat the location of the bomb out of him. Didn't work out that way but I think that was the plan.


That was another thing that really annoyed me.

You KNOW Bane is a really strong fighter. He kicks your butt and locks you up in jail.

So why is it, when you come back for round two, YOU USE THE EXACT SAME STRATEGY AS YOU DID THE FIRST TIME?

Seriously, Batman couldn't have come up with some long-range gadget to stop him? Why not use those sleeping darts that he used on the goons? Bane's strong, but still human. You could still drug him or tie him up or tase him or trap him in a net, but NO. Let's just stick to punching, and then let's do it in the middle of a huge melee where any jerk can bust in and shank you in the back.
 
2012-07-30 09:40:10 PM  

Six_By_Nine: rocky_howard: Six_By_Nine: rocky_howard: 3.- Bruce left a fortune to Blake.

What fortune? He was so dead-broke that they turned off his electricity pretty much the day he went bankrupt (which admittedly was kinda silly - not how that sort of thing works)

Huh? It was under my impression during the epilogue that he got his money back. After all, Wall Street can turn back a transaction if it's proven to be fraudulent.

He turned the Wayne Manor into a foster house for orphans and designated funds from Wayne Enterprises to fund it (remember that such things had stopped due to Wayne Enterprises not being profiting much after the nuclear generator fiasco).

And more importantly: How do you think he was paying for his sight-seeing trip around the world that took him to that Italian café where Alfred found him?

Regarding turning back the transaction, yeah, because that was a big to-do during the five months that Gotham was under lockdown and the rightful owner of the money was dead. I'm sure that was on top of someone's priority list to set right after everything got back to normal. Beats me how Wayne Manor wasn't repossessed, despite the will.

As for the sightseeing trip, meh. I regarded that the same way as I regarded him getting back to Gotham with no money: he knows how to survive. Plus, if he was with Selina after that, who says he wasn't living off money she had?


I thought story was pretty clear that the money would be returned to Bruce's account, but it would take time. Why wouldn't the remaining board of Wayne Enterprises go after that, even if a chunk ended up in the Wayne estate?

If there's a BoD and shareholders it's not just the Wayne Estate that lost money.
 
2012-07-30 09:49:18 PM  

davidphogan: I thought story was pretty clear that the money would be returned to Bruce's account, but it would take time.


It was, they say pretty much exactly that in the movie.
 
2012-07-30 10:26:40 PM  
It's almost like that pit, the one that Bruce was thrown into broken and came out whole, was some sort of resurrecting place...I mean it was positively Lazarus-like...
 
2012-07-30 10:28:56 PM  

Mateorocks: I liked the movie, but it's no Arkham City.


I'm totally stuck trying to defeat Solomon Grundy.
I thought he was a Superman baddie?

But the feel of those two games are amazing, really the first video game I've played since Half Life that I'd love to see made into a movie....if they could do it right. Re-starting the Batman franchise with Arkham Asylum would be a massive gamble but awesome if it worked.
 
2012-07-30 10:32:50 PM  

Your_Huckleberry: Mateorocks: I liked the movie, but it's no Arkham City.

I'm totally stuck trying to defeat Solomon Grundy.
I thought he was a Superman baddie?

But the feel of those two games are amazing, really the first video game I've played since Half Life that I'd love to see made into a movie....if they could do it right. Re-starting the Batman franchise with Arkham Asylum would be a massive gamble but awesome if it worked.


If I remember/understand correctly, he's a Green Lantern (the very first one, not Hal Jordan; Alan Scott might be his name). He was also featured pretty prominently in James Robinson's run on Starman, which was a good, solid book.
 
2012-07-30 10:40:15 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: I am Wee Todd Ed: Why did Batman/Bruce Wayne have to live? He should have died and the whole you-thought-i-exploded-but-i-didn't-and-somehow-end-up-with-catwoman-a nd-alfred-saw-me-alive-at-the-cafe-so-everything-turned-out-okay was kind of dumb.

Batman did die, only Bruce Wayne lived on. He sacrificed Batman to go on and live a normal life, which he couldn't do as long as everyone expected Batman to return.
I thought it was better ending than either the cliches of either the hero sacrificing himself to save everyone, or the hero somehow escaping from an inescapable scenario. The only real question is when did he eject from the craft - my guess is near where he blew up that building to get the Bat out over the river with the bomb.

The one big plot hole in the movie - how did Bruce Wayne get from Uzbekistan back into the locked down Gotham City in less than a day, considering he no longer had any money.


You don't think the Wayne Corporation has offices everywhere? He walks into the nearest one and goes "Tell the pilot to get the jet ready!"
 
2012-07-30 10:41:33 PM  

Mugato: Strolpol: I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.

I think he wanted Bane to find him as soon as possible so he could beat the location of the bomb out of him. Didn't work out that way but I think that was the plan.


I he wanted Gotham to know he was there. He was trying to raise an army, not sneak in and ninja-merc Bane.

My problem with that scene was that Batman's insaitable desire to tease could have resulted in any number of people, including Gordon, falling through the ice.
 
2012-07-30 11:37:30 PM  

Mugato: Shrugging Atlas: The teaser for what it was worth didn't look bad, I'll certainly grant you that.

What with him leaving a trail when he flies like a jet?


No, as I said earlier...Superman being Superman sucks and is boring...especially when he leaves contrails for no clear reason. But the approach there taking focusing more on Kent could be interesting. It's the opposite of Batman. The more Kent and less Superman the better. The more Batman and less Wayne the better.
 
2012-07-30 11:42:05 PM  

one small post for man: Mugato: Strolpol: I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.

I think he wanted Bane to find him as soon as possible so he could beat the location of the bomb out of him. Didn't work out that way but I think that was the plan.

I he wanted Gotham to know he was there. He was trying to raise an army, not sneak in and ninja-merc Bane.


My take was that the film was largely about how Bruce and Bane were two sides of the same coin; Bane was using hope as a weapon, and in the scene with the fire on the bridge Batman was also using hope as a weapon, with a very different purpose though.
 
2012-07-30 11:55:18 PM  

Mugato: Strolpol: I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.

I think he wanted Bane to find him as soon as possible so he could beat the location of the bomb out of him. Didn't work out that way but I think that was the plan.


No, his plan was to blow away audiences with the awesomeness of that scene, and it worked. The theatre I saw it in went ballistic.
 
2012-07-31 12:53:42 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: Mugato: Shrugging Atlas: The teaser for what it was worth didn't look bad, I'll certainly grant you that.

What with him leaving a trail when he flies like a jet?

No, as I said earlier...Superman being Superman sucks and is boring...especially when he leaves contrails for no clear reason. But the approach there taking focusing more on Kent could be interesting. It's the opposite of Batman. The more Kent and less Superman the better. The more Batman and less Wayne the better.


Oh man, I can see this isn't going away anytime soon. Contrails are not always caused by the exhaust from jet engines. In certain conditions that can also caused by objects passing through thin layers of clouds or atmosphere.

Like this:

contrailscience.com

and this:

contrailscience.com

or this:

contrailscience.com

The contrails in the Man of Steal trailer could theoretically be caused by the corner edges of Superman's cape passing through the clouds. But the best way to accept it is to just accept it because it looks farking cool as shiat.
 
2012-07-31 01:01:29 AM  

Cargo: Your_Huckleberry: Mateorocks: I liked the movie, but it's no Arkham City.

I'm totally stuck trying to defeat Solomon Grundy.
I thought he was a Superman baddie?

But the feel of those two games are amazing, really the first video game I've played since Half Life that I'd love to see made into a movie....if they could do it right. Re-starting the Batman franchise with Arkham Asylum would be a massive gamble but awesome if it worked.

If I remember/understand correctly, he's a Green Lantern (the very first one, not Hal Jordan; Alan Scott might be his name). He was also featured pretty prominently in James Robinson's run on Starman, which was a good, solid book.


Well, I could use a Power Ring or something to get past him in the game. Of course, I do suck at video games. Still, the guy is bigger than the Hulk!

Having not seen the movie yet, my guess about why Batman would try to go one on one with Bane again without something added speaks to an anger/pride thing. He didn't go through the prison Rocky training montage just to nail Bane with a stun grenade and a steel net. He wanted to kick the crap out of Bane, personally.
 
2012-07-31 02:02:17 AM  

ib_thinkin: Waxing_Chewbacca: Hate to see anyone but Bale playing the Batman now though.

I kind of want to see what can be done with Gordon-Levitt.

Sure, his name is "Robin," but that doesn't mean he has to dress in green and red, right?


No, it doesn't

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/if someone does continue this continuity, a Nightwing movie seems like the next logical step. He doesn't need Wayne's enormous resources - just a base, a suit and a couple of Eskrima sticks.
 
2012-07-31 03:26:21 AM  
Those were pretty funny. Thanks subby.
 
2012-07-31 09:23:20 AM  

chewielouie: The contrails in the Man of Steal trailer could theoretically be caused by the corner edges of Superman's cape passing through the clouds. But the best way to accept it is to just accept it because it looks farking cool as shiat.


Thanks for the pretty pictures but I wasn't suggesting they required jet engines. I was suggesting to me they definitely don't look farking cool as shiat. But to each their own.
 
2012-07-31 09:51:41 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: KFBR392: Tad_Waxpole: Am I the only one who thought this movie was actually kind of boring?

Yes and no....I think they could have started the move like 45 minutes in and not lost anything. Basically start the movie at the wall street heist. With Bane's attacks on Gotham drawing out batman after he sees that the police is no match for this guy.

Right about the point in TDK where they have the ferry scene I started thinking, "We get it, can we get on with the ending." I started feeling that much much sooner with TDKR.

The movie wasn't boring to me as much as it just felt too long because it tried to do too much if that makes sense. I think all three are about the same length, but I can watch BB over and over again, whereas TDK has worn on me over time. TDKR simply wasn't a tight script. I'm not talking about plotholes or nitpicky shiat either. Just too many characters doing too many things without a really strong relation between them all.

It's about what I expected to be honest though. When I saw the list of characters they were adding...all of which needed to have an arc contained within a single movie...and then all those returning that needed their arcs tied up I just had a bad feeling.

Then again, wrapping up any trilogy and making everyone happy is basically an impossible task, particularly where the first two movies did so well and people would probably like up to see 10 more of them if he kept making them.


Obviously spoilers ahead. And this get s a little long

I know exactly what you're saying. For me it was about the first 45 minutes...We don't need to see Bane opening scene, catwoman's back story, alfred leaving, that bruce wayne is a recluse, or that wayne enterprises has no money.

Most people going to see the movie already know the story takes place 8 years into the future. For the people that don't...Show Wayne Manor all boarded up and batman living alone in a guest house on the estate and show us a board meeting talking about the failing company. Done.

Then go from there.

Personally, if i had written the script...

Start the movie showing us that Batman is still in top form (after the death of rachel, it's the only thing he's got left in his life), that the limp and cane are all and act (a subtle allusion to the prestige and "faking it" to pretend to be weak, so no one expects him to be the batman)...

And he still gets beat down by Bane and shipped of to the prison.

With Bruce wayne gone, Bane and company can slowly bankrupt him through a series of bad deals and trades over the course of a couple months (not all in one swoop, 20 minutes after the stock exchange was attacked...I'm guessing the SEC would look into those trades)...and people would believe it...becuase Bruce is a recluse, his company is failing, the reconstruction of wayne manor cost way, way more than he thought (I can't image why?) and he's always traveling around the country/world doing all these crazy sports. The wild trades/deals were a last ditch effort to avoid total insolvency. He burnt down his house while drunk, he bought a hotel, he totaled a lamborghini....so people would likely believe it. People would think he inherited his father company, and ran it into the ground.

Then when he comes back....he's got less than he had before. Heck, it would be fun to have Bane and crew living in Wayne Manor...

Or so Bane thought...See Alfred and/or Lucius had money stashed in numerous accounts and gear all around the world hidden in "various charitable foundations, trusts, and so forth. Look, it's all a bit technical...But the important thing is...." (see what I did there).

Keep a bunch of the other side stories for Dent, Gordan, and Blake. In fact, the next batman movie is already written, it's basically going to be a remake/re-imagination of the Mask of Zorro (with an aging batman training a younger Blake to become the next batman).
 
2012-07-31 10:46:47 AM  

Teufelaffe: beta_plus: cousin-merle: Tat'dGreaser: Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me a troll. Other people feel the same way

Let's just ask Christopher Nolan.

If you're saying, "Have you made a film that's supposed to be criticizing the Occupy Wall Street movement?" - well, obviously, that's not true.

The Nolans are trolling you. For crying out loud, they cast at least two actors from The Wire in TDKR.

Principal photography on The Dark Knight Rises finished on November 14, 2011.
The Occupy Wall Street protests began on September 17, 2011.

So, your argument is that in less than two months, Nolan made the necessary re-writes and re-shoots in order to make TDKR about OWS?


No, but they could easily edit it to make it look as bad as possible.
 
2012-07-31 10:59:08 AM  

Waxing_Chewbacca: SpoilerAlert: Waxing_Chewbacca: Stile4aly: thomps: i lol'd at the rope one. also, speaking of pit ropes, if they've got a guy holding a rope that can stop a climber from falling, why doesn't that guy just pull on that rope to raise the climber over the gap (or at least help extend the jump)? that rope guy is a dick.

Looked to me like the anchor point for the rope was below the ledge where you have to make the leap. At that point, the rope only exists to catch you when you fall, not to aid your climb.

Said this earlier. Otherwise you just hoist a guy up. The distance Bruce falls is equal to the distance from the anchor point to the ledge above. The rope saves you from dying and not much more. That way you live with the slim hope of escape but likely never do.

Unless you strap a plank to yourself and lay it across the gap.

Home Depot has been expanding... It's possible.


You are right, in the worst prison in the world that has no gaurds, but a doctor that can punch a slipped disk back into place, has plenty of food, clothing and satellite TV, the hardest thing to believe is that there might be a plank of wood in there. You got me, without a Home Depot that's just not possible.
 
2012-07-31 02:15:26 PM  

KFBR392: Obviously spoilers ahead. And this get s a little long...


Well for what it's worth I'd watch that.
 
2012-07-31 06:25:13 PM  
 
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