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2012-07-30 06:38:02 PM

Cargo: Contrabulous Flabtraption: BafflerMeal: Tat'dGreaser: I really enjoyed the anti-Occupy Wall Street theme in the movie


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The entire premise was that without wealth and authority, common people will immediately take to violence and depravity. Without a figure who will take measures more pacifist types refuse, society will destroy itself. Bane was pretty much the physical manifestation of the (1.) extreme end of the Occupy movement. Hell, you could argue fairly easily that (2.) Batman is an allegorical George W. Bush


1. Citation needed.

2. Absolutely. If you simply add cowardice, incompetence, childish stupidity, ignorance, selfishness, disdainful arrogance, incompetence, and cowardice to Batman, you're spot on, jackass!


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It's just a batman movie f*cktwat
 
2012-07-30 06:40:09 PM

ODDwhun: Mugato: Teufelaffe: Cute. As for #10 "paralyzed subjects return to 'Peak fighting condition' within days", I guess they missed the part where it was ~5 months from the time Bruce Wayne was tossed into the pit to the time he escaped, which is enough time for a herniated disc to heal.

Yeah but they forgot about his leg that's been bad for 8 years.

I have had a herniated disc, but have never had a "vertebrae sticking out of my skin". I did notice it was 5 months, but still 5 months to go from cripple to better than you were before. Add to that the fact that he wasn't working out and training the whole time he was gone. It is ridiculous and probably the single dumbest thing in any Nolan movie. Face it, Nolan phoned it in.


Did you even watch the movie? He trained so hard inside the pit that he even got a Rocky montage.
Everybody knows you get supreme fighting skills after you do a Rocky montage.
 
2012-07-30 06:40:49 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Chances we see a Robin movie, anyone?


I think they'll wait a few years and reboot the whole thing. Maybe with a universe where the Justice League fits in (because the other DC characters are so successful as movies).
 
2012-07-30 06:43:53 PM

rocky_howard: Did you even watch the movie? He trained so hard inside the pit that he even got a Rocky montage.
Everybody knows you get supreme fighting skills after you do a Rocky montage.


Hallucination Apollo Creed beat up Hallucination Ra's al Ghul and he and Wayne ran along Hallucination Beach together.
 
2012-07-30 06:46:11 PM
facisto: Contrabulous Flabtraption: I liked the movie but the twist with the woman at the end was entirely unnecessary. It would have been better if Batman fought Bane to the death and Bane remained the boy in the pit. The truck could have been driven by any henchman. And the stab wound did nothing to hinder Batman anyway

I found the twist to be great as it fit with Batman canon. Batman fighting Bane to the death isn't good either as Batman doesn't kill people. That's Batman 101.


Except the driver of the nuke truck and Talia?

???
 
2012-07-30 06:47:29 PM

Mugato: I think they'll wait a few years and reboot the whole thing. Maybe with a universe where the Justice League fits in (because the other DC characters are so successful as movies).


There's already talk of a Batman reboot in the next few years as part of a Justice League tie in.
 
2012-07-30 06:49:28 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Cargo: Contrabulous Flabtraption: BafflerMeal: Tat'dGreaser: I really enjoyed the anti-Occupy Wall Street theme in the movie


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The entire premise was that without wealth and authority, common people will immediately take to violence and depravity. Without a figure who will take measures more pacifist types refuse, society will destroy itself. Bane was pretty much the physical manifestation of the (1.) extreme end of the Occupy movement. Hell, you could argue fairly easily that (2.) Batman is an allegorical George W. Bush


1. Citation needed.

2. Absolutely. If you simply add cowardice, incompetence, childish stupidity, ignorance, selfishness, disdainful arrogance, incompetence, and cowardice to Batman, you're spot on, jackass!

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It's just a batman movie f*cktwat



Good point. And it has nothing to do with your cowardly, incompetent, childishly stupid, ignorant, arrogant, incompetent, and cowardly idol George W. Bush.

Sorry that I made you cry.
 
2012-07-30 06:51:00 PM

consider this: Mugato: I think they'll wait a few years and reboot the whole thing. Maybe with a universe where the Justice League fits in (because the other DC characters are so successful as movies).

There's already talk of a Batman reboot in the next few years as part of a Justice League tie in.


Oh. Well I must be psychic.

Except the JL is no Avengers. Superman, which they're rebooting for the nth time next year, Wonder Woman, who had a TV show last year that was canceled before the first commercial break, Green Lantern which bombed and Aquaman, who is....Aquaman. I don't know anyone else.
 
2012-07-30 06:54:19 PM

Mugato: consider this: Mugato: I think they'll wait a few years and reboot the whole thing. Maybe with a universe where the Justice League fits in (because the other DC characters are so successful as movies).

There's already talk of a Batman reboot in the next few years as part of a Justice League tie in.

Oh. Well I must be psychic.

Except the JL is no Avengers. Superman, which they're rebooting for the nth time next year, Wonder Woman, who had a TV show last year that was canceled before the first commercial break, Green Lantern which bombed and Aquaman, who is....Aquaman. I don't know anyone else.


You know what I would like to see? A Golden Age Justice Society movie that takes place around the late 30s.

Of course, that'll never happen. Everyone is going to assume it's a Captain America ripoff.

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2012-07-30 06:54:27 PM
Shrugging Atlas: KFBR392: Tad_Waxpole: Am I the only one who thought this movie was actually kind of boring?

Yes and no....I think they could have started the move like 45 minutes in and not lost anything. Basically start the movie at the wall street heist. With Bane's attacks on Gotham drawing out batman after he sees that the police is no match for this guy.

Right about the point in TDK where they have the ferry scene I started thinking, "We get it, can we get on with the ending." I started feeling that much much sooner with TDKR.

The movie wasn't boring to me as much as it just felt too long because it tried to do too much if that makes sense. I think all three are about the same length, but I can watch BB over and over again, whereas TDK has worn on me over time. TDKR simply wasn't a tight script. I'm not talking about plotholes or nitpicky shiat either. Just too many characters doing too many things without a really strong relation between them all.

It's about what I expected to be honest though. When I saw the list of characters they were adding...all of which needed to have an arc contained within a single movie...and then all those returning that needed their arcs tied up I just had a bad feeling.

Then again, wrapping up any trilogy and making everyone happy is basically an impossible task, particularly where the first two movies did so well and people would probably like up to see 10 more of them if he kept making them.


TDK should have cut out the 20 or so minuets Hong Kong expose'. Sure it's Batman and gadgets, and cool. But ultimately it's 20 min in a movie that doesn't need to be extended for a scene that could have been Bruce smiling cutting to Batman dropping off the HK banker on some steps with Gordon wonder WTF.
 
2012-07-30 07:00:03 PM

TyrantII: TDK should have cut out the 20 or so minuets Hong Kong expose'. Sure it's Batman and gadgets, and cool. But ultimately it's 20 min in a movie that doesn't need to be extended for a scene that could have been Bruce smiling cutting to Batman dropping off the HK banker on some steps with Gordon wonder WTF.


What needed to be cut was that silly CSI thing with the bullet fragments. It didn't make any sense and was a half assed attempt to finally show Batman as a detective after 6 films.

/okay, the 1989 film sort of did with figuring out the poisoned chemicals
 
2012-07-30 07:00:08 PM

Mugato: Except the JL is no Avengers.


Batman and Superman have more of a following than all of the members of the Avengers put together.
 
2012-07-30 07:00:48 PM

Mugato: consider this: Mugato: I think they'll wait a few years and reboot the whole thing. Maybe with a universe where the Justice League fits in (because the other DC characters are so successful as movies).

There's already talk of a Batman reboot in the next few years as part of a Justice League tie in.

Oh. Well I must be psychic.

Except the JL is no Avengers. Superman, which they're rebooting for the nth time next year, Wonder Woman, who had a TV show last year that was canceled before the first commercial break, Green Lantern which bombed and Aquaman, who is....Aquaman. I don't know anyone else.


I don't care who they get to write, direct, or act in that movie...there's simply no way a JL movie works. It will be a CGI shiatfest like Green Lantern, the Batman in it will instantly fail due to comparisons to Nolan's, Superman is farking boring, and nobody has a shiat to give about Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, etc.

Now, if they went with a Kingdom Come storyline....they could probably break that into a few films and even have it tie directly to the Nolanverse if they played their cards right. I'd pay just about anything to watch that.
 
2012-07-30 07:01:40 PM
stoli n coke: Mugato: Contrabulous Flabtraption: The entire premise was that without wealth and authority, common people will immediately take to violence and depravity. Without a figure who will take measures more pacifist types refuse, society will destroy itself.

With no cops and no military, yes a lot of people would go batshiat insane. I don't see how that's a political view for one side or another.

I thought, if there was any political message, it was to be wary of anyone spewing overt populism, because usually, it is very insincere.


And the the worst will use it to their own ends, and the gullible with eat it up (Selina's disgust see through the Bane BS that other criminals are reveling in)

It was a very mellow critique of both the TeaParty and Occupy. Nothing more. Nolan doesn't do heavy handed political commentary, just hints.
 
2012-07-30 07:05:38 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Superman is farking boring


I'm looking forward to Man of Steel. Sure, Zack Snyder is directing, but Chris Nolan is producing it and writing it, so I assume there'll be adult supervision for that movie.
 
2012-07-30 07:15:06 PM

consider this: Mugato: Except the JL is no Avengers.

Batman and Superman have more of a following than all of the members of the Avengers put together.


Spiderman is an Avenger.
 
2012-07-30 07:19:35 PM

BafflerMeal: consider this: Mugato: Except the JL is no Avengers.

Batman and Superman have more of a following than all of the members of the Avengers put together.

Spiderman is an Avenger.


So's Wolverine, for that matter.
 
2012-07-30 07:21:52 PM

RexTalionis: Shrugging Atlas: Superman is farking boring

I'm looking forward to Man of Steel. Sure, Zack Snyder is directing, but Chris Nolan is producing it and writing it, so I assume there'll be adult supervision for that movie.


The teaser for what it was worth didn't look bad, I'll certainly grant you that. And I'm actually excited about a Nolan/Snyder effort regardless of the subject matter...I have no problem with Snyder personally. My concern is regardless of the acting/directing/writing there's only so much you can do with Superman and most of it isn't terribly compelling. Superman II was probably the best film effort to date, and it in large part had to do with him dropping the 'super' part and was helped greatly by the villains. I'm not sure they can go for either plot devices a second time.
 
2012-07-30 07:23:59 PM

RexTalionis: BafflerMeal: consider this: Mugato: Except the JL is no Avengers.

Batman and Superman have more of a following than all of the members of the Avengers put together.

Spiderman is an Avenger.

So's Wolverine, for that matter.


And Marvel owns the film rights to neither of them sadly. Sony and Fox respectively. They'll never, ever show up in an Avengers movie. A fact I'm grateful for with Wolverine, but I would get a kick out of Spider-Man showing up even for a bit part.
 
2012-07-30 07:25:39 PM

Shrugging Atlas: The teaser for what it was worth didn't look bad, I'll certainly grant you that.


What with him leaving a trail when he flies like a jet?
 
2012-07-30 07:26:42 PM

consider this: Mugato: Except the JL is no Avengers.

Batman and Superman have more of a following than all of the members of the Avengers put together.


Hate to see anyone but Bale playing the Batman now though. They'll get some emo kid and cast Megan Fox as wonder woman. Superman I can do without as well.
 
2012-07-30 07:27:35 PM

Shrugging Atlas: I have no problem with Snyder personally.


I do. Snyder cannot be trusted to do things on his own - he must have someone else (i.e. adult supervision) literally storyboarding his movies for him (Watchmen, The 300) or it will be crap (Sucker Punch).
 
2012-07-30 07:28:27 PM

Shrugging Atlas: The teaser for what it was worth didn't look bad, I'll certainly grant you that.


Totally Netflixable.
 
2012-07-30 07:30:25 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: Hate to see anyone but Bale playing the Batman now though.


I kind of want to see what can be done with Gordon-Levitt.

Sure, his name is "Robin," but that doesn't mean he has to dress in green and red, right?
 
2012-07-30 07:33:17 PM

ib_thinkin: Waxing_Chewbacca: Hate to see anyone but Bale playing the Batman now though.

I kind of want to see what can be done with Gordon-Levitt.

Sure, his name is "Robin," but that doesn't mean he has to dress in green and red, right?


If Jennifer Love Hewitt or whatever is Batman then it would be more of a sequel than a reboot. Which might be a better idea. Except he won't have any of Batman's toys, money or training.
 
2012-07-30 07:33:48 PM

ib_thinkin: Sure, his name is "Robin," but that doesn't mean he has to dress in green and red, right?


comicsmedia.ign.com

There's always this.
 
2012-07-30 07:34:53 PM

RexTalionis: ib_thinkin: Sure, his name is "Robin," but that doesn't mean he has to dress in green and red, right?

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There's always this.


Any time his name is said, the theater will be filled with resounding "YUM!"s

It'll never work.
 
2012-07-30 07:35:52 PM

Mugato: Shrugging Atlas: The teaser for what it was worth didn't look bad, I'll certainly grant you that.

What with him leaving a trail when he flies like a jet?


I lol'd at that because one of the possible causes of contrails is condensation from engine exhaust...so apparently the new Man of Steel has some flatulence issues.
 
2012-07-30 07:38:08 PM
For all you tool bags arguing about Occupy Wall Street. The script for this movie was finished long before Occupy Wall Street was a thing. Try as I might, I found very little political commentary in this movie (especially compared to The Dark Knight).

Additionally, they never really talk about how ordinary people on Gotham react, mostly we just see Bane's henchmen and escaped criminals.
 
2012-07-30 07:43:09 PM

I am Wee Todd Ed: Why did Batman/Bruce Wayne have to live? He should have died and the whole you-thought-i-exploded-but-i-didn't-and-somehow-end-up-with-catwoman-a nd-alfred-saw-me-alive-at-the-cafe-so-everything-turned-out-okay was kind of dumb.


Batman did die, only Bruce Wayne lived on. He sacrificed Batman to go on and live a normal life, which he couldn't do as long as everyone expected Batman to return.
I thought it was better ending than either the cliches of either the hero sacrificing himself to save everyone, or the hero somehow escaping from an inescapable scenario. The only real question is when did he eject from the craft - my guess is near where he blew up that building to get the Bat out over the river with the bomb.

The one big plot hole in the movie - how did Bruce Wayne get from Uzbekistan back into the locked down Gotham City in less than a day, considering he no longer had any money.
 
2012-07-30 07:44:12 PM

Wellon Dowd: serial_crusher: ok, I totally didn't realize that was Scarecrow judging people.

The movie needed more Scarecrow, mainly because I love Cillian Murphy in the strongest, non-gay way possible..


I'm with you in the completely heterosexual love of Cillian Murphy, but his presence really didn't add anything to the last two films.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film (so much so that I didn't even see the obvious twist until it happened) but there were definitely issues with it.
 
2012-07-30 07:49:31 PM

Snapper Carr: I'm with you in the completely heterosexual love of Cillian Murphy, but his presence really didn't add anything to the last two films


I wonder if The Joker would have been the judge if, you know. It would have been funny, an anarchist as a judge.
 
2012-07-30 07:51:11 PM

Snapper Carr: I'm with you in the completely heterosexual love of Cillian Murphy, but his presence really didn't add anything to the last two films.


I thought it was a nice tribute to the comics, where Batman would have to defeat the same villains over and over and over again.
 
2012-07-30 07:51:23 PM

Mugato: Snapper Carr: I'm with you in the completely heterosexual love of Cillian Murphy, but his presence really didn't add anything to the last two films

I wonder if The Joker would have been the judge if, you know. It would have been funny, an anarchist as a judge.


My theory is that it's a thing with symbolism - Fear (Scarecrow) and Hatred (Bane) are figuratively ruling over Gotham.
 
2012-07-30 08:15:30 PM

rocky_howard: ODDwhun: Mugato: Teufelaffe: Cute. As for #10 "paralyzed subjects return to 'Peak fighting condition' within days", I guess they missed the part where it was ~5 months from the time Bruce Wayne was tossed into the pit to the time he escaped, which is enough time for a herniated disc to heal.

Yeah but they forgot about his leg that's been bad for 8 years.

I have had a herniated disc, but have never had a "vertebrae sticking out of my skin". I did notice it was 5 months, but still 5 months to go from cripple to better than you were before. Add to that the fact that he wasn't working out and training the whole time he was gone. It is ridiculous and probably the single dumbest thing in any Nolan movie. Face it, Nolan phoned it in.

Did you even watch the movie? He trained so hard inside the pit that he even got a Rocky montage.
Everybody knows you get supreme fighting skills after you do a Rocky montage.


This literally made me LOL at my desk. +1 to you sir.

RexTalionis: Mugato: Snapper Carr: I'm with you in the completely heterosexual love of Cillian Murphy, but his presence really didn't add anything to the last two films

I wonder if The Joker would have been the judge if, you know. It would have been funny, an anarchist as a judge.

My theory is that it's a thing with symbolism - Fear (Scarecrow) and Hatred (Bane) are figuratively ruling over Gotham.


I would agree. It has been long said that the movies represent 3 main themes: Fear (scarecrow), Chaos (Joker), Pain (Bane).
There is no chaos, in TKDR, Bane is a general organizing 'troops' and equipment to take over the city.

I liked the subtle nod to Killer Croc by Jim Gordon when he mentions the crazy stories of 'alligators killing people in the sewers'.
 
2012-07-30 08:17:59 PM
RexTalionis: Shrugging Atlas: I have no problem with Snyder personally.

I do. Snyder cannot be trusted to do things on his own - he must have someone else (i.e. adult supervision) literally storyboarding his movies for him (Watchmen, The 300) or it will be crap (Sucker Punch).


I liked Suckerpunch.

It's not often a director releases a movie where the protagonist is violently raped over and over again, while 90% of the audience is clueless to it.

And further, went in because they wanted to watch hot chicks in skimpy wears killing robot samurai.
 
2012-07-30 08:19:44 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: The only real question is when did he eject from the craft - my guess is near where he blew up that building to get the Bat out over the river with the bomb.

The one big plot hole in the movie - how did Bruce Wayne get from Uzbekistan back into the locked down Gotham City in less than a day, considering he no longer had any money.


Imagine that, next year, at the end of Man of Steel, we see a post credits scene with Superman (let's say dealing with Kryptonite) and somehow he gets saved from it by a shadowy figure we couldn't see. Then the camera shifts from Superman to this figure and it's revealed to be Batman, who then says, "We're even".
 
2012-07-30 08:20:41 PM

TyrantII: And further, went in because they wanted to watch hot chicks in skimpy wears killing robot samurai.


Wait, why didn't I go see Sucker Punch?
 
2012-07-30 08:23:06 PM

TyrantII: And further, went in because they wanted to watch hot chicks in skimpy wears killing robot Nazi samurai.


FTFY!!
 
2012-07-30 08:27:20 PM
I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.
 
2012-07-30 08:29:51 PM

RexTalionis: John Blake - beat cop rises up from poverty as an orphaned at-risk kid to fight as a revolutionary with the Batman, and eventually rises to become the Batman's successor.


How is he realistically going to be batman's successor. He can't just don the Batman thing as he is dead and has a statue and everything. Also He wouldn't fit it to that gear being quite a bit smaller then batman. So how does an out of work orphan get the funds to retro fit this stuff to not be batman stuff. He doesn't, this whole scenario just doesn't work.
 
2012-07-30 08:31:28 PM

Strolpol: I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.


I think he wanted Bane to find him as soon as possible so he could beat the location of the bomb out of him. Didn't work out that way but I think that was the plan.
 
2012-07-30 08:33:47 PM

Strolpol: I think my biggest pet peeve with the movie was the fact that, despite the dire situation in Gotham with a time-bomb nuke and people dying in the streets, Batman still takes the time to dowse a bridge with accelerant in the shape of a bat for his commissioner buddy to light up.

Way to blow your element of surprise, dude.


The word you're looking for is "theatricality."

Or perhaps the phrase, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?"
 
2012-07-30 08:41:39 PM

dmars: RexTalionis: John Blake - beat cop rises up from poverty as an orphaned at-risk kid to fight as a revolutionary with the Batman, and eventually rises to become the Batman's successor.

How is he realistically going to be batman's successor. He can't just don the Batman thing as he is dead and has a statue and everything. Also He wouldn't fit it to that gear being quite a bit smaller then batman. So how does an out of work orphan get the funds to retro fit this stuff to not be batman stuff. He doesn't, this whole scenario just doesn't work.


Only thing that might work is they kill off Alfred and have him will what was left of Bruce's money.
 
2012-07-30 08:54:04 PM

dmars: RexTalionis: John Blake - beat cop rises up from poverty as an orphaned at-risk kid to fight as a revolutionary with the Batman, and eventually rises to become the Batman's successor.

How is he realistically going to be batman's successor. He can't just don the Batman thing as he is dead and has a statue and everything. Also He wouldn't fit it to that gear being quite a bit smaller then batman. So how does an out of work orphan get the funds to retro fit this stuff to not be batman stuff. He doesn't, this whole scenario just doesn't work.


1.- Bruce reconstructed the Bat-signal, it's pretty clear Blake is going to be Batman.
2.- He also drove home the point that anyone with the right training and tools, but more importantly, with the right mindset, could be Batman.
3.- Bruce left a fortune to Blake.
4.- Lucius is going to keep providing him with tech.
 
2012-07-30 08:58:26 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: The one big plot hole in the movie - how did Bruce Wayne get from Uzbekistan back into the locked down Gotham City in less than a day, considering he no longer had any money.


It wasn't less than a day. When he got out, it was about twenty days before the bomb was supposed to go off.

And as for having no money? Please refer to 'Batman Begins'. He's done it before, he can do it again.
 
2012-07-30 08:59:24 PM

rocky_howard: 3.- Bruce left a fortune to Blake.


Bruce left a duffel bag to Blake with gps coordinates to the bat cave.
 
2012-07-30 09:00:03 PM

rocky_howard: 3.- Bruce left a fortune to Blake.


What fortune? He was so dead-broke that they turned off his electricity pretty much the day he went bankrupt (which admittedly was kinda silly - not how that sort of thing works)
 
2012-07-30 09:08:38 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: The one big plot hole in the movie - how did Bruce Wayne get from Uzbekistan back into the locked down Gotham City in less than a day, considering he no longer had any money.


The man spent like 7 years away from his money and privilege with no one knowing who he was. I thin he might know a trick or two.
 
2012-07-30 09:12:12 PM

Six_By_Nine: rocky_howard: 3.- Bruce left a fortune to Blake.

What fortune? He was so dead-broke that they turned off his electricity pretty much the day he went bankrupt (which admittedly was kinda silly - not how that sort of thing works)


Huh? It was under my impression during the epilogue that he got his money back. After all, Wall Street can turn back a transaction if it's proven to be fraudulent.

He turned the Wayne Manor into a foster house for orphans and designated funds from Wayne Enterprises to fund it (remember that such things had stopped due to Wayne Enterprises not being profiting much after the nuclear generator fiasco).

And more importantly: How do you think he was paying for his sight-seeing trip around the world that took him to that Italian café where Alfred found him?
 
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