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(McClatchy DC)   Just how biased are Fox, MSNBC, and CNN?   (mcclatchydc.com) divider line 125
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2012-07-30 06:01:46 PM
That is some ground-breaking reportage!
 
2012-07-30 06:07:13 PM
I'll usually watch a little of both, just for the absurdity of it all. Which is fun if you don't take them too seriously.

What's interesting is how The Newsroom on HBO has a premise where that show is going to cut through the partisan bullshiat of those two networks, presumably, and the newscast ends up sounding just like MSNBC.
 
2012-07-30 06:27:12 PM
MSNBC has a few hours of biased programming a day. The rest of the day, they generally don't exhibit bias.

Fox News, even during straight news segments, shows a CLEAR bias toward the Republican Party and hyper-religious conservatism, and/or a clear bias against Democrats and "liberal causes" that Democrats don't even support (ie: severe restrictions of gun rights). Even during RED EYE, you can't go five minutes without hearing something like "well doesn't that make Obama a communist?"
 
2012-07-30 06:32:10 PM

unlikely: If two news operations are reporting that 2+2=4 and one is reporting 2+2=16andIFyouDON'TagreeYOU'REaCOMMIE, there is only one that is showing bias.

The biggest problem is that now a number of them are going "On the left, 2 and 2 is 4. On the Right, 2 and 2 is 16. The truth must be somewhere in the middle. 2 and 2 is obviously 10."


If you're an infant or a member of a remote tribe in the Amazon that has not developed the concept of integers, 2 and 2 is obviously 8.
 
2012-07-30 06:35:02 PM
Turn the dial to the left to watch MSNBC and it's more likely you lean left. Turn it to the right to tune in Fox, and it's more likely you lean right.

Somebody needs to upgrade to a television manufactured after 1970s, he's probably getting tired of always adjusting the rabbit ears.
 
2012-07-30 06:51:33 PM
Fox Noise

Faux News

Fixed News

Fake News

Foxhole News

keeping Big Business propaganda alive with the masses of American Sheeple in the 21st Century.
 
2012-07-30 06:53:42 PM
For entertainment (and boobies), watch Foxy News. the lies and bullsh*t will make you laugh.

for News, watch MSNBC and PBS

for even better News, get online and google news.
 
2012-07-30 06:54:53 PM
Fox News is not "news"... it's an opinion station and their opinion is that Republicans and Conservatives should always be cast in a good light and anything anyone else says is "liberal bias"...

Fox News is not just an outlier, they're outright liars and admit as much.

If you have to skew the stories as much as Fox News does to fit their ideology, you don't have an ideology worth having.
 
2012-07-30 06:58:48 PM
Princeton Philosophy Professor Harry G. Frankfort on Bullsh*t. SFW


Link
 
2012-07-30 07:10:08 PM

brianbankerus: AlwaysRightBoy: They're all biased, it just depends how you like your coffee frothed with your particular cream.

But not even remotely to equal degrees. MSNBC has Morning Joe... what's the Fox equivalent? Fox is 24/7 right-wing propaganda. MSNBC is only about 12-14/hrs/day left-wing propaganda.

Not the same.


Blinders...

I come from one of the most democrat families that you can ever imagine.
My sister was head of the party in NH for many, many years in Concord. 20 something years to be exact. I've met Bill, I've met Hillary and Al

My sister also held a fundraiser for the idiot Kerry in her democratic mansion.


/funny how politics work
 
2012-07-30 07:20:00 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: brianbankerus: AlwaysRightBoy: They're all biased, it just depends how you like your coffee frothed with your particular cream.

But not even remotely to equal degrees. MSNBC has Morning Joe... what's the Fox equivalent? Fox is 24/7 right-wing propaganda. MSNBC is only about 12-14/hrs/day left-wing propaganda.

Not the same.

Blinders...

I come from one of the most democrat families that you can ever imagine.
My sister was head of the party in NH for many, many years in Concord. 20 something years to be exact. I've met Bill, I've met Hillary and Al

My sister also held a fundraiser for the idiot Kerry in her democratic mansion.


/funny how politics work


So... you lost me, what?
 
2012-07-30 07:26:10 PM
If you think Fox "News" is anything but right wing propaganda you are a willfully blind idiot.
 
2012-07-30 07:31:11 PM

qorkfiend: What are you basing this ridiculous assertion on?


Probably the same one everyone else bases it on.

Reality.

There are left wing sources like the ones he listed, and there are right wing sources. You and everyone else in here can pretend to live in a magic fantasy land, making your picture particularly appropriate, or you can come to reality. MSNBC is so far in the tank for the DNC that they would scream in horror if the sunlight hit them. CNN may be liberal, but it's not the googly eyed marching orders from from the far left establishment that MSNBC is.

What's really, REALLY, comical is that while going on about bias at Fox... There are people here who believe absolute horse shiat peddlers like Think Progress, Media Matters, or TPM. All of whom make even the likes of Beck and Hannity seem sane by comparison.
 
2012-07-30 07:43:37 PM
From TFA: ".With its cadre of conservative hosts such as Sean Hannity, Fox is often the place where Republican elected officials stop first. That can make it must-watch TV for Republican viewers. The same can be said for Democrats on MSNBC, considering its liberal hosts such as Rachel Maddow."

In other words: People watch Fox to see the Republican elected officials, people watch MSNBC to see unelected pundits.

Anyone else see a false equivalence?
 
2012-07-30 07:51:05 PM
it's funny how just because fox is so derpy that these kids think msnbc is k
 
2012-07-30 08:03:18 PM
Take the big debate this year over the role of the federal spending in the economy. Just 19 percent of Fox viewers think that increasing government spending would help the economy, while 79 percent think increasing the debt in the process would hurt the economy. MSNBC viewers lean the other way, with 55 percent saying more spending would help and 43 percent saying the debt would hurt the economy.

I love this set of numbers. Fox viewers believe one way 4:1 whereas MSNBC viewers believe another way less than 3:2, but both sides are biased and no qualifier as to how biased should be used...
 
2012-07-30 08:04:59 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: /funny how politics work


What?
 
2012-07-30 08:13:40 PM

jules_siegel: AlwaysRightBoy: /funny how politics work

What?


Shirley you weren't born yesterday?
 
2012-07-30 08:46:48 PM
The problem with these channels is that 95% of the programming is just people offering opinion and commentary on the news and 5% is actual news reporting
 
2012-07-30 09:26:33 PM

Drexl's Eye: When was the last time a television remote had a dial?


GBB: DeltaPunch: "Turn the dial to the left to watch MSNBC and it's more likely you lean left. Turn it to the right to tune in Fox, and it's more likely you lean right will suffer some mild brain damage."

Dial?? What "dial"??


BuckTurgidson: Turn the dial to the left to watch MSNBC and it's more likely you lean left. Turn it to the right to tune in Fox, and it's more likely you lean right.

Somebody needs to upgrade to a television manufactured after 1970s, he's probably getting tired of always adjusting the rabbit ears.


Reminds me of a thread on the late, great Dwayne McDuffie's forum. He was (among a great many other things) the head writer on Ben 10: Alien Force and Ben 10: Ultimate Alien. There was a thread asking which version of Ben 10 people preferred, the new teenaged one or the ten-year-old from the original pre-McDuffie series.

Well, being the comics geek I am, I posted that I preferred the truly original "Ben 10," and posted a comics panel of the silver age DC comic Dial "H" for "HERO" (about a boy who finds a mystic dial that, when he dialed that word on it, would randomly transform him into a different superhero each time ― a later revamp had two teenagers, a boy and a girl, each finding dials with only those letters on them, that appeared as an ordinary wristwatch and a necklace pendant watch, respectively, until used).

I bemoaned that if a Dial "H" cartoon series were done now, it would be seen as a rip-off of Ben 10, despite predating it by nearly ½ a century.

Dwayne then put me in my place by pointing out that the real reason a Dial "H" cartoon wouldn't work these days is because few kids would have any idea what a "dial" is (other than perhaps as a brand of bar soap), since neither TVs nor phones have had them for decades now.

(Must make it confusing when they come across old Underdog reruns. "Anh-anh-anh, don't touch that dial!")
 
2012-07-30 10:14:30 PM

brantgoose: In Maine they have a scale model of the solar system.

The Sun is on the campus of the University of Maine in Presque Isle (French for "almost an island", i.e., a peninsula). The partisanship of Fox News is somewhere beyond Pluto (Houlton, ME). I'm guessing it is offshore near Mount Desert Island, and its famous old-timey resort town, Bar Harbor.

http://astroguyz.com/2008/07/24/the-maine-solar-system-model-an-updat e /

For Canadians, the distance is about the same as Woodstock, NB, to Perth Andover, NB, with McCain Land in between (Fredericton in the other direction, might be easier to visualize). Perth Andover is where the winner of the Touch Bellini Contest on Kids in the Hall got to touch Belleni (wearing a hotel room towel). IIRC, the winner was a Hickey. Hickey is a common name in the area. Maybe he was a Hicks.

In the history of the world, about the only events that have ever happened in or near Perth-Andover, New Brunswick, was the Touch Bellini Contest and the Aroostook War. Neither of them were our finest hour as a species. But more people knew about the Touch Bellini Contest.

I'm sorry we lost Aroostook County to the State of ME. All those potato fields could have been ours, and also a much shorter route to Upper Canada, with fewer icy hills.

The weather in Presque Isle, Maine is the same as the weather in McCain Land, except one hour earlier. The McCains have their private executive airport in New Brunswick and their control tower in the USA. The multi-billion dollar food giant and this international airport are Florenceville, NB's claim to fame (not bad for a village of 700 or so).

But I digress.

Suffice to say that Fox News is further out there than the Way Outs on the Inter-Galactic Iditerod Dog Sled Race. CNN and the other corporate news sources don't seem all that much less crazier than batshiat sorbet.


This is exactly why I read Fark.

Cheers.
 
2012-07-30 11:43:02 PM
What about the vast majority of people who watch neither cable or network news?
 
2012-07-31 02:42:04 AM
FTFA Or taxes. MSNBC viewers are more likely to be willing to pay more taxes and to support higher taxes on the rich and Wall Street. Fox viewers are more likely to think the poor should pay more.

This idea would work really well except for the fact that they're poor and have no money. Can't get blood from a stone, dumbasses.
 
2012-07-31 02:45:30 AM

Cletus C.: I'll usually watch a little of both, just for the absurdity of it all. Which is fun if you don't take them too seriously.

What's interesting is how The Newsroom on HBO has a premise where that show is going to cut through the partisan bullshiat of those two networks, presumably, and the newscast ends up sounding just like MSNBC.


In other news, Aaron Sorkin is a flaming liberal.

I"m not saying that either MSNBC or ACN's coverage isn't factual, I'm just saying that Sorkin isn't a disinterested party.
 
2012-07-31 06:59:33 AM
Fox is where offensive washed up right wing politicos go to get paid to spout their hate speech. They seem to be on too much ephedrine.
 
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