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(CNN)   Freaked out about how much Google, Facebook, and Apple know about you? Well, Amazon knows more about you than all of them, and it's better at using that information to take your money. But, hey...FREE SHIPPING   (tech.fortune.cnn.com) divider line 130
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2012-07-30 12:00:07 PM
Booga booga!

The companies you need to worry about are the companies you don't know exist.
 
2012-07-30 12:17:00 PM
Well done Acerno Akamai.
 
2012-07-30 12:20:08 PM
"take my money?" are you sure you don't mean "figure out what i might like and then offer that to me?" do you get upset when pandora serves you up songs you prefer too?
 
2012-07-30 12:31:36 PM
Plus Amazon has a ton of free HD movies/tv shows for Prime users, so they have that going for them which is nice.
 
2012-07-30 12:36:07 PM

Elzar: Plus Amazon has a ton of free HD movies/tv shows for Prime users, so they have that going for them which is nice.


BUT THEY'RE TAKING YOUR TIME, THOSE BASTARDS
 
2012-07-30 12:47:06 PM
They can only take my money if I offer it to them.
 
2012-07-30 12:47:26 PM
Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.
 
2012-07-30 12:49:00 PM
You mean an online company that I shop with keeps a record of what I bought? Wow, I bet they also keep the social security numbers of all their employees!

Come back when you find proof that they are selling that information to other companies.
 
2012-07-30 12:49:21 PM

SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.


or employment.
 
2012-07-30 12:49:45 PM
I disabled all of the history and recommendations functions on my Amazon account. If I don't know enough to shop for it, then I guess I don't really want it, do I? Not that "want" or "need" have any meanings in the brave new world of targeted marketing. But hey, whatever floats your boat--if you like being brainwashed and groomed to buy things you don't need, have at it.
 
2012-07-30 12:51:06 PM
heaven forbid they know i like ramen! and recommend tasty ramen treats
 
2012-07-30 12:51:25 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.

or employment.


I'm pretty sure they have employees at their warehouses, and they are increasing the number of warehouses to shorten shipping time (instead of just staying in tax friendly states).
 
2012-07-30 12:51:33 PM
I buy a large percentage of my consumer goods from amazon and have been doing so for some time. For the life of me I can't recall an instance of them pissing me off so they must be doing something right. If they are doing something that I would prefer they not do, then they have successfully hidden that fact from me.
 
2012-07-30 12:51:43 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.

or employment.


Sign seen in a Borders store just before they all closed:

"Bathrooms not working; try Amazon."
 
2012-07-30 12:52:07 PM
As someone who placed an order for "KOHLER K-T12887-4-BN Fairfax Bath- or Deck-Mount High-Flow Bath Trim with Lever Handles, Valve Not Included, Vibrant Brushed Nickel" less than two hours ago, I am getting a kick.
 
2012-07-30 12:53:16 PM

cryinoutloud: I disabled all of the history and recommendations functions on my Amazon account. If I don't know enough to shop for it, then I guess I don't really want it, do I? Not that "want" or "need" have any meanings in the brave new world of targeted marketing. But hey, whatever floats your boat--if you like being brainwashed and groomed to buy things you don't need, have at it.


Is your self-confidence so pitiful that you think you will be brainwashed by an easily ignorable box on a webpage?
 
2012-07-30 12:53:21 PM
Amazon's success comes wholly from their massive sales tax fraud. Once lawmakers catch up to that game, they'll be gone in a few years, suffocated by their own success. Shipping costs and sales taxes added on top of their marginally fair prices will far outstrip the same offering at a local brick and mortar store. It's been nice, but it's about to get ugly.

From everything that I'm reading, the fed is about to pass a law to retroactively collect all of the sales tax on Amazon's merchandise -- not from Amazon but from the customers. The law will require Amazon to remit its sales records since its inception. So all that wonderful stuff you bought without paying tax is about to bite you in the ass. Get ready to receive a lump tax bill in the tens of thousands of dollar range. And then enjoy the calls from collection once your credit is ruined and you can't even rent an apartment.

Theives and tax cheats deserve what's coming to them.
 
2012-07-30 12:53:35 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: or employment.


Exactly. No one has to develop, make, market, package, house, ship, or deliver they shiat they sell. It's really quite genius.
 
2012-07-30 12:53:44 PM
My Amazon 'might likes' are near preturnatural in how well they know my shiat. I always own like half of it already, but good lord, they may as well be genies.
 
2012-07-30 12:53:46 PM

cryinoutloud: I disabled all of the history and recommendations functions on my Amazon account. If I don't know enough to shop for it, then I guess I don't really want it, do I? Not that "want" or "need" have any meanings in the brave new world of targeted marketing. But hey, whatever floats your boat--if you like being brainwashed and groomed to buy things you don't need, have at it.


Wow. You have a pretty high opinion of yourself, don't you?
 
2012-07-30 12:53:54 PM
Are they selling that information to every shady back alley criminal that offers two dollars? No? Then I don't give a fark. If they use my purchases and browsing history on Amazon to display stuff on Amazon that I might like, I don't care.

OTOH, if Facebook sees that I've donated to the Rightwing Moral Majority Gay Haters of Planet Kobol and also stocked up on vibrating anal probes from ButtPlugs-R-Us, and secretly sells that data combination to Vice Watch International without my explicit consent, I'm going to be upset.

The only thing that worries me about Amazon is that it can give people the impression that everyone is just like them. If you buy several Sarah Palin books, it's going to start showing you nothing but right wing books. Or if you buy a bunch of Michael Pollan books, suddenly the site makes it look like greenie books are very popular though they're really just appearing on the screen because they think that's what you like. Of course people should be smart enough to know better but sadly many don't.
 
2012-07-30 12:54:15 PM
I like the way they recommend things. I bought humidifier and needed to get the filters. Well, when I added the thing to my cart, the right filters showed up in the "people also buy" spot. This saved me time because I didn't have to look for them.
 
2012-07-30 12:54:35 PM

spentmiles: From everything that I'm reading, the fed is about to pass a law to retroactively collect all of the sales tax on Amazon's merchandise


Put down the bath salts
 
2012-07-30 12:54:46 PM
Wake me up when Amazon sells the information to people I really, really don't want having my information, which to my knowledge they haven't yet. At least the flood of comic book trade paperback junk mail hasn't started showing up at all...

cryinoutloud: I disabled all of the history and recommendations functions on my Amazon account. If I don't know enough to shop for it, then I guess I don't really want it, do I? Not that "want" or "need" have any meanings in the brave new world of targeted marketing. But hey, whatever floats your boat--if you like being brainwashed and groomed to buy things you don't need, have at it.


That's everyone's prerogative, but there's so much stuff out there that I couldn't possibly find all of the neat stuff I've found over the years without recommendations, whether from browsing blogs and forum posts or the random churn that Amazon serves up to me. Amazon is actually surprisingly good with some of its "you seem to like surreal nonsense, here's what other hopped up burnouts like."
 
2012-07-30 12:55:28 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.

or employment.


Efficiency is more important than employment. That's the philosophy given when focussing all the local businesses shuttered by wal-mart.

Amazon is more efficient than Walmart
 
2012-07-30 12:55:38 PM

LaraAmber: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.

or employment.

I'm pretty sure they have employees at their warehouses, and they are increasing the number of warehouses to shorten shipping time (instead of just staying in tax friendly states).


In all likelihood they don't have employees in the town you live in. When Target and Walmart are put out of business people will be crying about the good old days when there were actual jobs in their town.
 
2012-07-30 12:56:38 PM

EngineerAU: Are they selling that information to every shady back alley criminal that offers two dollars? No? Then I don't give a fark. If they use my purchases and browsing history on Amazon to display stuff on Amazon that I might like, I don't care.

OTOH, if Facebook sees that I've donated to the Rightwing Moral Majority Gay Haters of Planet Kobol and also stocked up on vibrating anal probes from ButtPlugs-R-Us, and secretly sells that data combination to Vice Watch International without my explicit consent, I'm going to be upset.
.


I want them to use my browsing history to display stuff I might like. That's a service, not a problem.
 
2012-07-30 12:57:01 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Sign seen in a Borders store just before they all closed:

"Bathrooms not working; try Amazon."


Which was fitting since Borders had put so many local independent bookstores out of business. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
 
2012-07-30 12:57:06 PM
FTFA: More: Amazon's profits fall by 96%

Obviously it seems like they're making the best possible use of this info.
 
2012-07-30 12:57:07 PM
I trust Bezos, Amazon.com and AWS. I don't trust the rest of them.
 
2012-07-30 12:57:08 PM

foxyshadis: Wake me up when Amazon sells the information to people I really, really don't want having my information


Wake me when Ramona Flowers handles my package.
 
2012-07-30 12:57:09 PM

thomps: "take my money?" are you sure you don't mean "figure out what i might like and then offer that to me?" do you get upset when pandora serves you up songs you prefer too?


When that actually happens, I'll let you know.
 
2012-07-30 12:57:40 PM
I honestly don't care about what Amazon knows because everything they collect on me is for one reason and one reason only, to sell me more shiat.

Facebook and Google? I have no farking clue what they plan on using the info for.
 
2012-07-30 12:58:14 PM

JohnBigBootay: spentmiles: From everything that I'm reading, the fed is about to pass a law to retroactively collect all of the sales tax on Amazon's merchandise

Put down the bath salts


It would be $0 anyways. There is no Federal tax on book sales.
 
2012-07-30 12:58:17 PM

spentmiles: Amazon's success comes wholly from their massive sales tax fraud. Once lawmakers catch up to that game, they'll be gone in a few years, suffocated by their own success. Shipping costs and sales taxes added on top of their marginally fair prices will far outstrip the same offering at a local brick and mortar store. It's been nice, but it's about to get ugly.

From everything that I'm reading, the fed is about to pass a law to retroactively collect all of the sales tax on Amazon's merchandise -- not from Amazon but from the customers. The law will require Amazon to remit its sales records since its inception. So all that wonderful stuff you bought without paying tax is about to bite you in the ass. Get ready to receive a lump tax bill in the tens of thousands of dollar range. And then enjoy the calls from collection once your credit is ruined and you can't even rent an apartment.

Theives and tax cheats deserve what's coming to them.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-30 12:58:59 PM
Big Brother is us

/we are Big Brother

//drtfa
 
2012-07-30 12:59:35 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: When Target and Walmart are put out of business people will be crying about the good old days


You have mistakenly identified the period in which 'the good old days' originate. Hint: It was before Wal mart and target shuttered all the cool local family businesses with character, actual expertise, and customer service. Target and wal mart are still there - please, go and enjoy them.
 
2012-07-30 01:00:27 PM
I love Amazon. I use my "Wishlist" to keep track of stuff I want to buy down the road and they have great deals on MP3s without as much hassle as Apple/iTunes. Also, I bought 3 albums I wanted for $2.99 each, which I was very pleased about. They also can't be beat for eBooks. I have bought quite a bit from them but none of it lately has been anything that needed shipping.
 
2012-07-30 01:01:20 PM

EngineerAU: Which was fitting since Borders had put so many local independent bookstores out of business. Live by the sword, die by the sword.


Thank you for pointing this out. They can cry me a farking river.
 
2012-07-30 01:01:24 PM
I love Amazon. I love Chick-Fil-A.

Amazon donates to pro gay marriage groups. Chick-Fil-A donates to groups that do not support gay marriage.

I'm gonna order a couple of Blu-ray movies on Amazon and then got to Chick-Fil-A or lunch.
 
2012-07-30 01:01:44 PM
FTA: Already, the company has begun selling items previously sold in bulk that were too cost-prohibitive to ship individually like say, a deck of cards or a jar of cinnamon. Customers may buy them, but only if they have an order totaling $25 or over. But the company could actively recommend these add-on products during check-out when an order crosses that pricing threshold, much like traditional supermarkets have impulse-purchase items like gum and candy bars at the register.

Oh, awesome. So now I'll have to go through a virtual impulse buy maze that retail stores are so fond of. That's awesome, maybe they can have a countdown clock to make sure I stare at the chocolate salty balls for at least 45 seconds before I can move on, in the hopes that I will mentally break down and add mounds of garbage to my order. I CAN'T WAIT!!!
 
2012-07-30 01:01:53 PM

thomps: "take my money?" are you sure you don't mean "figure out what i might like and then offer that to me?" do you get upset when pandora serves you up songs you prefer too?


This. Trying to sell me stuff /= Big Brother.

Call me when when Apple starts patenting our genes.
 
2012-07-30 01:03:13 PM

spentmiles: Amazon's success comes wholly from their massive sales tax fraud. Once lawmakers catch up to that game, they'll be gone in a few years, suffocated by their own success. Shipping costs and sales taxes added on top of their marginally fair prices will far outstrip the same offering at a local brick and mortar store. It's been nice, but it's about to get ugly.


Which is why every metropolitan city in the US is getting an Amazon distribution center. Amazon is creating direct competition now.

If you have to pay taxes, might as well milk it for all it's worth. And now the brick and mortar stores are saying, "Oh, so that's what they mean when they say to be careful what you wish for..."
 
2012-07-30 01:03:56 PM

spentmiles: From everything that I'm reading, the fed is about to pass a law to retroactively collect all of the sales tax on Amazon's merchandise


Are you reading that in a country that has a federal VAT? Because that would make sense. Otherwise, was there a picture of a muscular bald guy farking a rug in sidebar of the website you were reading?
 
2012-07-30 01:04:43 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: LaraAmber: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.

or employment.

I'm pretty sure they have employees at their warehouses, and they are increasing the number of warehouses to shorten shipping time (instead of just staying in tax friendly states).

In all likelihood they don't have employees in the town you live in. When Target and Walmart are put out of business people will be crying about the good old days when there were actual jobs in their town.


Remember when there were jobs other than service industry? Now robots do most of them. Well, it's rapidly coming to the service industry to, and it's not going to stop any more than the wailing and gnashing of teeth kept the rust belt from rusting.
 
2012-07-30 01:05:02 PM
Targeted ads might work on weak-minded fools who are just shopping for the hell of it, but I got to Amazon with specific items in mind and am not there to window shop. But if they want to try to entice me with things I'd probably like, more power to them. Not really sure how that is taking my money.

I've got much bigger issues with Amazon, like what sort of crap they pull to ensure that the crap I suddenly decided I need is so cheap. You think about it enough, you decided maybe you don't need that crap, after all, if that's the price you're paying.

/I'm about 50/50 on moral backbone/I-need-a-Captain-Haddock-figurine
 
2012-07-30 01:05:42 PM
For Christmas I purchased a Kindle for my grandmother and attached it to my account. Ever since, Amazon has had a distorted view of who I am and its recommendations are always comical.
 
2012-07-30 01:06:18 PM
I never buy what they recommend, so it's not helping them out in any way.
 
2012-07-30 01:07:30 PM
If you want to talk impulse buys, go visit your local comic shop.

Walked in to get one wolverine graphic novel, walked out with half of the Sandman collection.
 
2012-07-30 01:07:36 PM

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: LaraAmber: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: SchlingFocker: Amazon is fantastic, and they don't blight our cities with huge stores.

or employment.

I'm pretty sure they have employees at their warehouses, and they are increasing the number of warehouses to shorten shipping time (instead of just staying in tax friendly states).

In all likelihood they don't have employees in the town you live in. When Target and Walmart are put out of business people will be crying about the good old days when there were actual jobs in their town.


People are always going to need toilet paper and toothpaste and not be willing to wait 5-7 days for it to arrive. Those aren't the shops that will be threatened by Amazon.
 
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