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(New York Daily News)   40 years later, new photos show US flags still on lunar sound stage   (nydailynews.com) divider line 63
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2012-07-30 10:13:22 AM  
th194.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-30 10:36:19 AM  
Those blotches prove nothing, they look virtually indistinguishable from the other splotches. Am I supposed to take some needle-dicked scientist's word for what they are?
 
2012-07-30 10:50:32 AM  
I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.
 
2012-07-30 11:11:52 AM  

EvilEgg: Those blotches prove nothing, they look virtually indistinguishable from the other splotches. Am I supposed to take some needle-dicked scientist's word for what they are?


They should have provided a short animated GIF, since it's the sundial effect that demonstrates the flags are actually still there.
 
2012-07-30 11:11:57 AM  
Until the Chinese go and tear it down.
 
2012-07-30 11:12:13 AM  
 
2012-07-30 11:12:59 AM  
If we had actually gone to the moon, Johnny Cash would have had a line about it in Ragged Old Flag.

Therefore, we did not go to the moon.
 
2012-07-30 11:13:17 AM  

Mr Guy: EvilEgg: Those blotches prove nothing, they look virtually indistinguishable from the other splotches. Am I supposed to take some needle-dicked scientist's word for what they are?

They should have provided a short animated GIF, since it's the sundial effect that demonstrates the flags are actually still there.


I thought the bombs bursting in air did that.
 
2012-07-30 11:14:18 AM  
I've never understood the moon landing deniers. During the moon landing, the astronauts were sending back a continuous stream of radio signals. Signals that everyone everywhere could pick up. A Russian astronomer in Leningrad and another in Moscow could easily calculate where the signals were coming from and could exactly map the entire trip based solely on those signals.

If the US never went to the moon landing, why didn't the Soviets call bullshiat at the time?
 
2012-07-30 11:15:23 AM  

Giltric: If we had actually gone to the moon, Johnny Cash would have had a line about it in Ragged Old Flag.

Therefore, we did not go to the moon.


If we faked it, we would have faked a Mars landing by now.
 
2012-07-30 11:17:19 AM  
Dear NASA,

You're only helping the deniers when you release grainy stuff like this. Please just stop trying, and ignore them.

Kthnxbye
 
2012-07-30 11:17:59 AM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


Behold the power of cheese.
 
2012-07-30 11:18:18 AM  

meanmutton: I've never understood the moon landing deniers. During the moon landing, the astronauts were sending back a continuous stream of radio signals. Signals that everyone everywhere could pick up. A Russian astronomer in Leningrad and another in Moscow could easily calculate where the signals were coming from and could exactly map the entire trip based solely on those signals.

If the US never went to the moon landing, why didn't the Soviets call bullshiat at the time?


Because they were silenced by the Triumvirate, you rube! WAKE UP!
 
2012-07-30 11:21:06 AM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


..... so?
 
2012-07-30 11:23:31 AM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Dear NASA,

You're only helping the deniers when you release grainy stuff like this. Please just stop trying, and ignore them.

Kthnxbye


NASA doesn't release these photos for the deniers.
 
2012-07-30 11:24:22 AM  
Suck it, Francis Scott Key! The assault on Fort McHenry has NOTHING on the universe's assault on the lunar surface.

// USA!! USA!!
 
2012-07-30 11:27:34 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.

..... so?


He wants everyone to know that he has a girlfriend. You don't know her, she's a model in Canada.
 
2012-07-30 11:28:13 AM  
img534.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-30 11:28:28 AM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


There's nothing on the Moon that's really worth visiting. If there was, we would have stayed. The only place that there's water ice is at the bottom of craters where you can't use solar power to access it, lunar dust gets in everything and fouls up all of your machinery, and the temperature swings are brutal.

There's no reason to land on the moon again. Mars at least has the novelty factor.
 
2012-07-30 11:32:50 AM  

Bleyo: meanmutton: I've never understood the moon landing deniers. During the moon landing, the astronauts were sending back a continuous stream of radio signals. Signals that everyone everywhere could pick up. A Russian astronomer in Leningrad and another in Moscow could easily calculate where the signals were coming from and could exactly map the entire trip based solely on those signals.

If the US never went to the moon landing, why didn't the Soviets call bullshiat at the time?

Because they were silenced by the Triumvirate, you rube! WAKE UP!


And so were hams that were monitoring them, like Dick Knadle K2RIW?
 
2012-07-30 11:33:07 AM  
img534.imageshack.us
The shadow is facing THE WRONG DIRECTION!!1!!
 
2012-07-30 11:37:37 AM  

Jubeebee: unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.

There's nothing on the Moon that's really worth visiting. If there was, we would have stayed. The only place that there's water ice is at the bottom of craters where you can't use solar power to access it, lunar dust gets in everything and fouls up all of your machinery, and the temperature swings are brutal.

There's no reason to land on the moon again. Mars at least has the novelty factor.


We'd go back to the moon because it provides a handy place to build things without the trouble of trying to escape Earth's gravity well. We could also do crazy things like take the water ice someplace other than the bottom of a crater to do things with it.
 
2012-07-30 11:42:26 AM  
For something that never happened, it was very impressive at the launch site. Apollo 17 lit up the night sky to blue. I have never heard a speaker system at a concert that had that level of bass.

/still know how they did that on a sound stage
 
2012-07-30 11:44:18 AM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


So we have her to thank for all of this?
 
2012-07-30 11:47:53 AM  

EvilEgg: I thought the bombs bursting in air did that.


I LOL'd.
 
2012-07-30 11:48:20 AM  

qorkfiend: Jubeebee: unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.

There's nothing on the Moon that's really worth visiting. If there was, we would have stayed. The only place that there's water ice is at the bottom of craters where you can't use solar power to access it, lunar dust gets in everything and fouls up all of your machinery, and the temperature swings are brutal.

There's no reason to land on the moon again. Mars at least has the novelty factor.

We'd go back to the moon because it provides a handy place to build things without the trouble of trying to escape Earth's gravity well. We could also do crazy things like take the water ice someplace other than the bottom of a crater to do things with it.


Except that you'd have to get everything TO the moon to do the mining, refining, and manufacturing. Plus, we'd have to find all the sources of oxygen and whatever we're trying to build -- where are we going to find that?
 
2012-07-30 11:48:52 AM  

Mr Guy: They should have provided a short animated GIF, since it's the sundial effect that demonstrates the flags are actually still there.


How about 720p YouTube?
 
2012-07-30 11:51:02 AM  

Nem Wan: Mr Guy: They should have provided a short animated GIF, since it's the sundial effect that demonstrates the flags are actually still there.

How about 720p YouTube?


And here are the zoomed-in animated GIFs
 
2012-07-30 11:51:30 AM  

Shrugging Atlas: So we have her to thank for all of this?


Exactly.
 
2012-07-30 12:05:37 PM  

WTF Indeed: [th194.photobucket.com image 160x160]




Did some work for Sibrel several years ago and yeah... he's a bit off. Or maybe a lot.

Supposedly the Lunar Rover was so well made you could take a battery pack up their today and it should run.
 
2012-07-30 12:14:06 PM  

meanmutton: qorkfiend: Jubeebee: unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.

There's nothing on the Moon that's really worth visiting. If there was, we would have stayed. The only place that there's water ice is at the bottom of craters where you can't use solar power to access it, lunar dust gets in everything and fouls up all of your machinery, and the temperature swings are brutal.

There's no reason to land on the moon again. Mars at least has the novelty factor.

We'd go back to the moon because it provides a handy place to build things without the trouble of trying to escape Earth's gravity well. We could also do crazy things like take the water ice someplace other than the bottom of a crater to do things with it.

Except that you'd have to get everything TO the moon to do the mining, refining, and manufacturing. Plus, we'd have to find all the sources of oxygen and whatever we're trying to build -- where are we going to find that?


In addition, the lunar surface is a terrible place to build anything. Lunar dust is just tons of microscopic, razor sharp particles that'll foul up everything you do. You'd be better off assembling things in earth orbit; save the deceleration fuel, work in a clean environment, and have all the solar power you need.

The moon sucks. It's an energy hole. There isn't anything you can do on the moon that you can't do faster, cheaper, and easier someplace else.
 
2012-07-30 12:14:24 PM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


Is she hot?
 
2012-07-30 12:18:53 PM  
Jubeebee:
In addition, the lunar surface is a terrible place to build anything. Lunar dust is just tons of microscopic, razor sharp particles

Like cut your hands if you shoved them in bucket full of the stuff sharp? Or like when sand gets magnified sharp?
 
2012-07-30 12:20:03 PM  
I was also born in November of 1968.

However, MY girlfriend was born in October of 1975.

Which makes me a whole lot better than that other guy.
 
2012-07-30 12:21:10 PM  

Jubeebee: There's no reason to land on the moon again.


There are a few radio astronomers who would disagree with you. The far side provides a uniquely shielded location away from the RF noise on this planet.

As Heinlein once pointed out, there's a military advantage for any country that wants to drop big rocks down into the Earth's gravity well.

Helium-3 mining is another possible reason, although it's only relevant once we've figured out fusion power.

"Because it's there" is still the best reason to go.
 
2012-07-30 12:24:41 PM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


Damn, what do you two find to talk about after sex?
 
2012-07-30 12:32:53 PM  

robohobo: Jubeebee:
In addition, the lunar surface is a terrible place to build anything. Lunar dust is just tons of microscopic, razor sharp particles

Like cut your hands if you shoved them in bucket full of the stuff sharp? Or like when sand gets magnified sharp?


Somewhere between. More like if you take a bucket of rocks, hit each one with a hammer only once, and then fill a bucket with that. That kind of sharp. Sand, here, is rounded and smoothed by wind and water action, so it's really not that sharp.
 
2012-07-30 12:46:42 PM  
i486.photobucket.com
Flag

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Flag

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Flag

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Lots of flags. (And craters)
 
2012-07-30 12:48:58 PM  

EvilEgg: Mr Guy: EvilEgg: Those blotches prove nothing, they look virtually indistinguishable from the other splotches. Am I supposed to take some needle-dicked scientist's word for what they are?

They should have provided a short animated GIF, since it's the sundial effect that demonstrates the flags are actually still there.

I thought the bombs bursting in air did that.


Slow clap.
 
2012-07-30 01:12:16 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Still in use today. But if that's not enough proof:
imgs.xkcd.com

It could be worse. This thread could be on YouTube.
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-07-30 01:17:29 PM  
www.motifake.com
 
2012-07-30 01:28:28 PM  
Should a stagehand put that flag back up?
 
2012-07-30 01:36:20 PM  

Mr Guy: EvilEgg: Those blotches prove nothing, they look virtually indistinguishable from the other splotches. Am I supposed to take some needle-dicked scientist's word for what they are?

They should have provided a short animated GIF, since it's the sundial effect that demonstrates the flags are actually still there.


I thought I had read the ascent exhaust knocked the (or one of) the flag(s) down? If so was it re erected via a later missions or as later missions were in disparate locations did later missions each plant their own U.S. flag?
 
2012-07-30 01:45:11 PM  

Saturn5: [upload.wikimedia.org image 593x599]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment

Still in use today. But if that's not enough proof:
[imgs.xkcd.com image 538x313]

It could be worse. This thread could be on YouTube.
[imgs.xkcd.com image 450x860]



Ah, the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment. NASA has been collecting data off that for decades. I guess they pay scientists to collect that data just to keep up the charade?

/Am I doing this right?
//fark the deniers, I thought this article was cool
 
2012-07-30 01:51:37 PM  
img577.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-30 02:05:28 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com

"It's that flag from MTV!"
 
2012-07-30 03:05:39 PM  

calbert: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 479x357]

"It's that flag from MTV!"


After decades in direct sunlight the flags are probably white, though since the shadows suggest they are physically intact, the stars and stripes are still there in the sewing pattern (they are machine-sewn flags, not screen-printed).
 
2012-07-30 03:26:57 PM  
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/Flags? Vut flags?
 
2012-07-30 03:36:33 PM  

unlikely: I was born in November 1968, just before the Apollo 8 left to do the first manned orbit of the moon. Every time a human has visited the moon has been within my lifetime.

My girlfriend was born in April, 1973, a couple of months after the Apollo 17 returned. We have not had a human visit the moon in her lifetime.


But Im sure there have been plenty of manned missions to heranus
 
2012-07-30 03:41:07 PM  
About 4 years ago I met Charlie Duke from Apollo 16, got to chat with him. I have a signed lithograph from him that I need to get framed. I wanna go to the moon!
 
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