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2012-07-30 03:03:14 PM  
In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching
Archery -no
Badminton -no
Basketball -such a sham, but might watch the USA final gold medal game
Beach Volleyball - womens.. YES! ..but not for the game itself, for the bodies.. i admit it
Boxing - nope.. MMA is so much better than boxing, I can't be bothered to watch boxing any longer
Canoe/Kayak - no
Cycling -no
Diving -no
Equestrian - no ..ps: this is a godawful event.
Fencing -no
Field Hockey - maybe.. the women seem cute..probably get bored after 10 minutes
Gymnastics - perhaps
Handball - yes
Judo -maybe
Modern Pentathlon - didn't they replace the real gun with the pistol from Duck Hunt? no
Rowing - no
Sailing - no
Shooting -no
Soccer - no, not sure why either.. just doesnt seem to have the same quality feel/commitment as the bigger country tournies
Swimming - only for a final gold medal event
Synchronized Swimming -no
Table Tennis -no
Taekwondo -no
Tennis -no
Track & Field - maybe
Triathlon -no
Volleyball - only the womens, and only if they wear those tight shorts we all love.. and I'm sitting close
Water Polo - no
Weightlifting -no
Wrestling -no
 
2012-07-30 03:35:01 PM  
It seems every time there is this issue with empty seats, often in the premium sections because those seats cost so much. I remember hearing that premium seats for some of the swimming events were upwards of $300.

If you want to solve some of that problem, sell some of your lower cost seats with an upgrade option. Say a 25% premium, and if the expensive seats don't fill up, you get to move.
 
2012-07-30 03:36:10 PM  
Or, you could read the article, and discover people are just cranky that sponsors and dignitaries were given big blocks of tickets that aren't being used, and the common man is a bit confused why he can't just buy unused seats, what with the whole capitalism thing the first world always goes on about.
 
2012-07-30 03:37:16 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching
Archery -no
... ... ...
Wrestling -no


Wouldn't it have just been easier to say "I don't really like the Olympics" and be done with it? I'd personally love to see pretty much any event live. These athletes have trained most of their lives to be there, they are going to be the very best at what it is they do (even if obscure), so sure, why wouldn't I like to see that?
 
2012-07-30 03:38:36 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching


In other words, you don't like the Olympics or anything remotely outside of your comfort zone. And you're kind of a meathead.
 
2012-07-30 03:42:37 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: I'm a moron

 
2012-07-30 03:44:28 PM  
Here's your problem... and it's not actually a problem - they have to reserve seats for family members/bigwigs. Many family members/bigwigs don't show... especially for preliminary stuff. Thus, the seats are empty.
 
2012-07-30 03:53:30 PM  
Just watched Federer play doubles and there was almost nobody in the stands.
 
2012-07-30 03:54:06 PM  
Mitt Romney went to England and told everyone that the Olympics would fail. Therefore it is the sworn duty of the right-wing media (and the more credible media who all too often picks up their derp and runs with it) to make it look as much as possible that the Olympics are failing, thus vindicating Romney retroactively. c.f. drudgereport.com right now.
 
2012-07-30 03:56:20 PM  

Slives: It seems every time there is this issue with empty seats, often in the premium sections because those seats cost so much. I remember hearing that premium seats for some of the swimming events were upwards of $300.


Some of the seats at track and field were apparently up near 700 pounds (I dunno how to do the L thingy)
 
2012-07-30 03:56:27 PM  
alywa: Wouldn't it have just been easier to say "I don't really like the Olympics" and be done with it?

This. Stupid list is stupid.

I'd personally love to see pretty much any event live. These athletes have trained most of their lives to be there, they are going to be the very best at what it is they do (even if obscure), so sure, why wouldn't I like to see that?

In 1984, I was given a ticket to women's field hockey and I had a great time. I'd love to see dressage, the shooting events, fencing, modern pentathlon, rowing and other things that aren't on 24/7 on effing ESPN.

As for why there's empty seats, the English don't give a damn about women's soccer, they rightly judge it to be massively inferior to the men's game (see also: basketball). As for the men, they just finished the European Championships less than a month ago, why pay for tickets + travel to go to Wales or Newcastle to watch an inferior tournament?
 
2012-07-30 03:58:11 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching


This is my list:
Archery - yup
Badminton - yup
Basketball - nah, I hate BBall in general
Beach Volleyball - yup
Boxing - nah
Canoe/Kayak - yup
Cycling - yup
Diving - yup
Equestrian - mostly, but I just don't understand Dressage, jumping is cool though
Fencing - yup
Field Hockey - yup (I love ice hockey so this is the next best thing in the SO)
Gymnastics - yup
Handball - yup
Judo - nah
Modern Pentathlon - yup
Rowing - yup
Sailing - BIG yup (I used to race on J-boats and last time in Beijing I knew a girl who crewed a boat)
Shooting - yup
Soccer - yup
Swimming - yup
Synchronized Swimming - yup
Table Tennis - yup
Taekwondo - nah
Tennis - yup
Track & Field - yup
Triathlon - yup
Volleyball - yup
Water Polo - yup
Weightlifting - nah
Wrestling - nah


I love almost every sport but basketball and the boxing/martial arts stuff. Regardless there are so many fun events, I absolutely love it.
 
2012-07-30 03:59:01 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Here's your problem... and it's not actually a problem - they have to reserve seats for family members/bigwigs. Many family members/bigwigs don't show... especially for preliminary stuff. Thus, the seats are empty.


Well, the problem is there are people out there who want those seats but can't get tickets because they're reserved for people who don't go.
 
2012-07-30 03:59:07 PM  

dookdookdook: Mitt Romney went to England and told everyone that the Olympics would fail. Therefore it is the sworn duty of the right-wing media (and the more credible media who all too often picks up their derp and runs with it) to make it look as much as possible that the Olympics are failing, thus vindicating Romney retroactively. c.f. drudgereport.com right now.


All Olympics fail. It is the nature of Olympics to fail.
 
2012-07-30 04:04:55 PM  

redpanda2: Well, the problem is there are people out there who want those seats but can't get tickets because they're reserved for people who don't go.


They have to reserve the seats but they can't make them come to the events. I'd like to sit here and say it's easy, just give away the seats for the no-shows. But I suspect it's not that easy.
 
2012-07-30 04:08:13 PM  

Henry Holland: As for why there's empty seats, the English don't give a damn about women's soccer, they rightly judge it to be massively inferior to the men's game (see also: basketball). As for the men, they just finished the European Championships less than a month ago, why pay for tickets + travel to go to Wales or Newcastle to watch an inferior tournament?


Wrong. There are empty seats because they gave all the tickets to corporations who aren't using them.

There is immense demand for tickets for every event (see the secondary market prices) but the tickets are physically unavailable because the corporations are hoarding them.
 
2012-07-30 04:09:36 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: I'm gay ass fark

 
2012-07-30 04:11:41 PM  
My list:
Archery - Yes
Badminton - Maybe
Basketball - Yes
Beach Volleyball - Yes
Boxing - Yes
Canoe/Kayak - Yes
Cycling - Yes
Diving - Yes
Equestrian - I watched it on TV so I would watch it live I guess
Fencing - Yes
Field Hockey - Yes
Gymnastics - Yes
Handball - Yes
Judo - Yes
Modern Pentathlon - Yes
Rowing - Yes
Sailing - Yes
Shooting - maybe
Soccer - Yes
Swimming - Yes
Synchronized Swimming - maybe
Table Tennis - Yes
Taekwondo - Yes
Tennis - Yes
Track & Field - Yes
Triathlon - maybe
Volleyball - Yes
Water Polo - Yes
Weightlifting - Yes
Wrestling - Yes
 
2012-07-30 04:13:26 PM  

Spade:

Some of the seats at track and field were apparently up near 700 pounds



I guess that would be the American section, then. .
 
2012-07-30 04:14:34 PM  
I always get excited for the olympics and then I remember that i don't care about 75% of the events. Apparently a lot of other people feel the same.
 
2012-07-30 04:17:17 PM  
Do they sell tickets in packages? Like if you want to see the finals of an event do you have to buy for all the prelims as well? Because I could see that causing empty seats right now too
 
2012-07-30 04:19:07 PM  
I asked my parents to take me to all sorts of stuff when they were here. I didn't get to go to any track and field things, which stunk.

But, I spent a day and watched 2 baseball games, went to some horse park stuff, and there were passes that let me go to the World Congress Center and watch all sorts of crap.

It was fun to just go and root for random US athletes because, in some of the events, it was just the person and their mom/dad and hardly anybody else there. It was cool to see them happy to have fans.
 
2012-07-30 04:20:45 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: Soccer - no, not sure why either.. just doesnt seem to have the same quality feel/commitment as the bigger country tournies


I'll argue that at the very least, watching the home country play would be fun.

\though I will stick to the fact that, as an American, I might get bored during any downtime whatsoever, as downtime is commercial time in America.
 
2012-07-30 04:21:48 PM  
I've been hooked on canoeing, fencing, archery, and futbol. I've also checked out a bit of the gymnastics, cycling and swimming events. Today, I am watching volleyball and tennis.

Frankly, I cannot imagine turning down the opportunity to see any of these events live. So far these Olympics have been outstanding with lots of surprises.
 
2012-07-30 04:24:34 PM  
I'm on a roll....haven't watch a single second of the Olympics. I think I have a shot at going the duration.
 
2012-07-30 04:24:52 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Dr.Knockboots: In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching

In other words, you don't like the Olympics or anything remotely outside of your comfort zone. And you're kind of a meathead.


No kidding. Sounds like a real mouth-breather. MMA and BOOBS!
 
2012-07-30 04:27:52 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching


No one wants to hear what your shallow ass would watch.
 
2012-07-30 04:29:41 PM  

Elephantman: I'm on a roll....haven't watch a single second of the Olympics. I think I have a shot at going the duration.


Yea, great "roll" you're on there. What do you want- a farkin medal?
 
2012-07-30 04:31:13 PM  
When I tune in to something that has "XXX" in the title, and I don't see tits, I get mad. Just sayin'
 
2012-07-30 04:32:22 PM  

sonnyboy11: I've been hooked on...futbol.


Me too. I think the Bornocs could go all the way this year.
 
2012-07-30 04:36:24 PM  

sonnyboy11: I've been hooked on futbol.


Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
 
2012-07-30 04:37:27 PM  
I can't believe it took so long for someone on FARK to notice this injustice.
 
2012-07-30 04:40:23 PM  
Been watching a good amount of handball, water polo, and field hockey, all very solid sports.
 
2012-07-30 04:47:57 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: [buncha sports


I see your problem, and it can be easily solved by a cursory visit to the nearest Adult Video outlet. It appears sports is not your thing.

What annoys me about Olympic coverage is this is the one moment where some of those lesser sports actually get national exposure, and they eschew some interesting archery or taekwando footage for.... basketball, tennis and soccer. shiat we see year round anyway.

No one pays attention to rowing or weightlifting outside of the Olympics. Give these lesser activities their moment in the sun for pete's sake. In fact, I'd go one further and ban all team sports that already have professional leagues and just keep it as a strictly individual event extravaganza, for those minor amateur contests that aren't big enough to carry world circuits, press and sponsors by themselves (relatively speaking. Yes, I'm aware that air pistol shooting has a world circuit -- hell, a friend of mine went to the World's in Munich a couple months ago -- but none of this is broadcasted nationally).
 
2012-07-30 05:01:58 PM  
I'll watch damn near anything at least once for novelty's sake. Especially so if I'm actually AT the goddamn Olympics.

Being that picky makes absolutely no farking sense. Might as well go to the Musée du Louvre but proclaim "I only want to see paintings using the colors and red and black. Everything else I don't even want to acknowledge".
 
2012-07-30 05:04:25 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: When I tune in to something that has "XXX" in the title, and I don't see tits, I get mad. Just sayin'


You're watching too much swimming and gymnastics and not enough volleyball
 
2012-07-30 05:05:24 PM  

JohnBigBootay: they have to reserve seats for family members/bigwigs. Many family members/bigwigs don't show... especially for preliminary stuff.


It doesn't seem like they're reserved for family members. Hell, just last night NBC showed the family of one of the US swimmers and the view from their seats in one of the last rows in the entire building. It's bigwigs/sponsors who simply aren't showing up. They need a system like Wimbledon where if you aren't showing up, or you leave really early, they can re-sell your ticket for charity at a ticket window at the event.
 
2012-07-30 05:09:43 PM  

bubbaprog: Henry Holland: As for why there's empty seats, the English don't give a damn about women's soccer, they rightly judge it to be massively inferior to the men's game (see also: basketball). As for the men, they just finished the European Championships less than a month ago, why pay for tickets + travel to go to Wales or Newcastle to watch an inferior tournament?

Wrong. There are empty seats because they gave all the tickets to corporations who aren't using them.

There is immense demand for tickets for every event (see the secondary market prices) but the tickets are physically unavailable because the corporations are hoarding them.


Much as I am surprised to find myself defending megacorps, it seems that the companies in question have used their seats and can prove it - its 'Olympic Family' seats that aren't being used - bureaucrats, team officials etc. They have probably gone shopping instead. London is rather good for shopping.
 
2012-07-30 05:25:42 PM  

Ishkur: Dr.Knockboots: [buncha sports

I see your problem, and it can be easily solved by a cursory visit to the nearest Adult Video outlet. It appears sports is not your thing.

What annoys me about Olympic coverage is this is the one moment where some of those lesser sports actually get national exposure, and they eschew some interesting archery or taekwando footage for.... basketball, tennis and soccer. shiat we see year round anyway.

No one pays attention to rowing or weightlifting outside of the Olympics. Give these lesser activities their moment in the sun for pete's sake. In fact, I'd go one further and ban all team sports that already have professional leagues and just keep it as a strictly individual event extravaganza, for those minor amateur contests that aren't big enough to carry world circuits, press and sponsors by themselves (relatively speaking. Yes, I'm aware that air pistol shooting has a world circuit -- hell, a friend of mine went to the World's in Munich a couple months ago -- but none of this is broadcasted nationally).


Air pistol, air guitar...sheesh the will give gold medals for anything nowadays.
 
2012-07-30 05:33:48 PM  

dookdookdook: Mitt Romney went to England and told everyone that the Olympics would fail. Therefore it is the sworn duty of the right-wing media (and the more credible media who all too often picks up their derp and runs with it) to make it look as much as possible that the Olympics are failing, thus vindicating Romney retroactively. c.f. drudgereport.com right now.


*sigh* Mist there be a derposaurus in every thread regarding the Olympics?
 
2012-07-30 05:38:51 PM  
Tried to watch the Olympics, but the amount of commercials, plus the fact that it's all delayed by hours, make it a difficult to care much. I just check the scores and such and see if there's anything I want to watch, and then hope NBC didn't preempt (sp?) it with some witty crap from Costas.
 
2012-07-30 05:48:29 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: In person...let's see hwhich events I'd even be interested in watching


This is my list:

Archery - Medal round only
Badminton - No
Basketball - The US men are too over-hyped and the womens' games are like watching J/V, so No
Beach Volleyball - Women - Absolutely. Men - only US matches
Boxing - I've checked in a couple times and can't get in to it
Canoe/Kayak - Sure
Cycling - No
Diving - Not a sport. No
Equestrian - See Diving
Fencing - Too much crying from the women. No
Field Hockey - Couldn't get in to it
Gymnastics - Yes
Handball - No
Judo - No
Modern Pentathlon - Possibly
Rowing - Medal round only
Sailing - No
Shooting - Might check in once and a while
Soccer - Absolutely
Swimming - Yes
Synchronized Swimming - Also not a sport
Table Tennis - Makes me feel too inadequate, so No
Taekwondo - No
Tennis - Late rounds only
Track & Field - Definitely
Triathlon - No
Volleyball - Not nearly as fun as Beach, so No
Water Polo - Yes
Weightlifting - No
Wrestling - No
 
2012-07-30 05:49:55 PM  

Ishkur: Give these lesser activities their moment in the sun for pete's sake. In fact, I'd go one further and ban all team sports that already have professional leagues and just keep it as a strictly individual event extravaganza


Why should the Olympics only be about obscure sports?
 
2012-07-30 06:04:03 PM  
Was gonna snark about whatever it is that involves prancing around waving long ribbons.

Then "air guitar" trumped me

//mcreadyblue ftw
 
2012-07-30 06:06:50 PM  

Triumph: Just watched Federer play doubles and there was almost nobody in the stands.


It's is completely weird to see Wimbledon with:

A) that ugly-ass purple backdrop instead of the usual green and
B) empty seats. In Centre Court. With Federer playing!!! Bizarro Wimbledon! (wasn't full either for the singles match)
 
2012-07-30 06:17:25 PM  
The empty seats are the ones that have been given to the OC's from the indavidual countries, media and olympic hangers on. The corperate seats and the ticketed seats have been mostly filled.

Now LOCOG as said it will name the countries that are leaving seats empty and are not giving back seats suprise suprise a flood of tickets have been handed back.
 
2012-07-30 06:23:52 PM  

Norfolking Chance: The empty seats are the ones that have been given to the OC's from the indavidual countries, media and olympic hangers on. The corperate seats and the ticketed seats have been mostly filled.

Now LOCOG as said it will name the countries that are leaving seats empty and are not giving back seats suprise suprise a flood of tickets have been handed back.


Simple solution, 10 minutes before start time, give unused seats away for cheap ($5 or pounds etc). Everywhere has scanners now. For the rush seating as people come in make them pay in cash, and print them off a ticket as they come in.

That way all you have to do if you want your seat that you paid for is make sure you show up more than 10 minutes before the even begins. Obviously keep a clear lane for these people to get in so they aren't pushed back and can't get in. Fine details and all that but it would be a good compromise.
 
2012-07-30 06:25:39 PM  

TheJoe03: Why should the Olympics only be about obscure sports?


It shouldn't be necessarily. But I see no problem nixing so much air time for the leviathan sports businesses that already get massive attention and air time like soccer and mens basketball. I want to see kobe farking bryant in the olympics like I want a hole in the head.
 
2012-07-30 06:32:13 PM  

Masterstuff: sonnyboy11: I've been hooked on futbol.

Did you see that ludicrous display last night?


Which one- the Spaniards? Before, during or after? Frankly they deserved to get thumped.
 
2012-07-30 06:33:47 PM  

JohnBigBootay: redpanda2: Well, the problem is there are people out there who want those seats but can't get tickets because they're reserved for people who don't go.

They have to reserve the seats but they can't make them come to the events. I'd like to sit here and say it's easy, just give away the seats for the no-shows. But I suspect it's not that easy.


They do not have to reserve as many as they have. Not even close. They also could require recipients to confirm attendance so the tickets could be sold or given out if they won't be used.
 
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