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(Patheos)   "Memo to GOP: Patriotism Isn't Tied to One's Religious Beliefs" says some commie loving atheist traitor   (patheos.com) divider line 47
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2012-07-30 09:55:53 AM  
That's some fine high school civics blogging there, Lou
 
2012-07-30 10:01:56 AM  
Bachmann is lacking the basics, so I see no problem.
 
2012-07-30 10:45:26 AM  
One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?
 
2012-07-30 10:46:02 AM  
"Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...
 
2012-07-30 11:04:15 AM  

DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...


signatories of the letter
 
2012-07-30 11:36:40 AM  

EvilEgg: DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...

signatories of the letter


I was confused by this too. It's ambiguous, but luckily there's a handy online dictionary:

signer [ˈsaɪnə]
n
1. a person who signs something
2. a person who uses sign language to communicate with deaf people

I think in this case they are referring to the first definition and not the second, but I'm not sure.
 
2012-07-30 11:41:36 AM  

EvilEgg: DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...

signatories of the letter


I thought signatories was more formal, like diplomats signing an international treaty or something. Signee is just anyone who signs a document.

/meh
 
2012-07-30 11:47:21 AM  

Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?


actually, i believe it's "party before country."
 
2012-07-30 12:29:27 PM  
DarthWeaver95 2012-07-30 10:45:26 AM


One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?

Isn't that the New World Order credo the GOP/fundies have been hysterically screaming and pissing about for the last 20 or 30 years?
 
2012-07-30 12:56:29 PM  
Jingoism is pretty much always tied to religious beliefs, though.
 
2012-07-30 12:58:29 PM  
True story: Jesus is never mentioned in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.
 
2012-07-30 12:59:09 PM  
Or the portion of the Bible the Right "reads."
 
2012-07-30 01:00:16 PM  

Lord_Baull: True story: Jesus is never mentioned in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.


And I bet Jesus never said anything about them either.
 
2012-07-30 01:03:05 PM  

FlashHarry: Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?

actually, i believe it's "party before country."



Wrong, both of you. It's "We're not the black guy."
 
2012-07-30 01:03:21 PM  

Slives: Lord_Baull: True story: Jesus is never mentioned in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.

And I bet Jesus never said anything about them either.


What I don't get is why no one is paying Caesar his cut.
 
2012-07-30 01:04:00 PM  
Oh, y'all are just saying that because you don't understand that Jesus Washington died for our sins at the battle of Waterloo when he beat chocolate Custard to be the first German who Pearl Harbor dived.
 
2012-07-30 01:04:31 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Slives: Lord_Baull: True story: Jesus is never mentioned in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.

And I bet Jesus never said anything about them either.

What I don't get is why no one is paying Caesar his cut.



I'm pretty sure Republican Jesus never touched on the topic.
 
2012-07-30 01:05:03 PM  
Yeah, well Barry Goldwater was an atheist, and look how many Electoral Votes that got him. What say you now, libs?
 
2012-07-30 01:05:12 PM  

Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith.

Eine Welt, ein Gott, ein Glaube. isn't that the GOP credo?

/FTFY
 
2012-07-30 01:05:46 PM  

EngineerAU: Oh, y'all are just saying that because you don't understand that Jesus Washington died for our sins at the battle of Waterloo when he beat chocolate Custard to be the first German who Pearl Harbor dived.



Germans?
 
2012-07-30 01:07:08 PM  

Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?


Either that or "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children." Of course, they mean essentially the same thing.
 
2012-07-30 01:11:06 PM  

EvilEgg: DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...

signatories of the letter


As a general rule "ees" get and "ers" or "ors" give. Examples: payees and payers, mortgagees and mortgagors, grantees and grantors. A signee would be receiving a sign and a signer would giving the sign (or signing).
 
2012-07-30 01:13:55 PM  

cubic_spleen: Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?

Either that or "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children." Of course, they mean essentially the same thing.


For the ladies, kinder, kuche and kirche
 
2012-07-30 01:16:13 PM  
Were they "Wrapped in a Flag and carrying a Bible"?
 
2012-07-30 01:20:07 PM  
Duh! Everyone knows your levels of patriotic are based on descent, the wackiness of your signage, and most of all the incredible levels of flag clothes you wear. So If I was at an event and had a sign that said 'Please, GOP, give us some positive direction and hope', while wearing shorts and sneakers, then obviously I am a not a true patriot. If I was wrapped in flags like a star-spangled burrito and my sign said "N0bama Von DesignatedHilter Lovs the AL Basball' then I would be a very patriotic person.
 
2012-07-30 01:21:30 PM  

DeltaPunch: EvilEgg: DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...

signatories of the letter

I thought signatories was more formal, like diplomats signing an international treaty or something. Signee is just anyone who signs a document.

/meh


Actually, a signer is someone who signs something. A signee would be someone who has received a signature.

So either you're talking about someone who has had their cast signed by a signer, or someone who has received a benefit from someone else signing a contract.
 
2012-07-30 01:24:02 PM  
No, but your right to do business in Chicago and Boston are, apparently.
 
2012-07-30 01:25:57 PM  

Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?


You forgot One Percent.
 
2012-07-30 01:33:23 PM  
I'm a Christian who refuses to vote GOP until they change their blood spilling, money worshipping ways.
/not holding my breath either.
 
2012-07-30 01:39:17 PM  

iawai: DeltaPunch: EvilEgg: DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...

signatories of the letter

I thought signatories was more formal, like diplomats signing an international treaty or something. Signee is just anyone who signs a document.

/meh

Actually, a signer is someone who signs something. A signee would be someone who has received a signature.

So either you're talking about someone who has had their cast signed by a signer, or someone who has received a benefit from someone else signing a contract.


I don't think that's completely correct. For all definitions I can find, signee is essentially synonymous with signer. (I wasn't aware of this when I originally corrected TFA.)
 
2012-07-30 01:39:49 PM  
Uh, right. That's like saying the quality of the fruit isn't somehow tied to the tree's roots.
 
2012-07-30 01:43:56 PM  

Kurmudgeon: I'm a Christian who refuses to vote GOP until they change their blood spilling, money worshipping ways.


Ah, you must be one of those so-called "liberal Christians". You may think you are a Christian, but you're in for a nasty surprise come Judgement Day.

At least, that's what the real Christians tell me.
 
2012-07-30 01:46:35 PM  

rudemix: Duh! Everyone knows your levels of patriotic are based on descent, the wackiness of your signage, and most of all the incredible levels of flag clothes you wear. So If I was at an event and had a sign that said 'Please, GOP, give us some positive direction and hope', while wearing shorts and sneakers, then obviously I am a not a true patriot. If I was wrapped in flags like a star-spangled burrito and my sign said "N0bama Von DesignatedHilter Lovs the AL Basball' then I would be a very patriotic person.


How dare you impugn our national dish...
 
2012-07-30 01:50:16 PM  
Oh yeah? Then how come when I GIS "jesus flag waving" I can find this?

www.christiansoldierscross.com

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-30 01:50:45 PM  

Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?


We all came from the One, and to the One we shall all return.

/That it?
 
2012-07-30 01:52:40 PM  

DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...


It's not like it'd be that hard to translate this letter into ASL. Point to Bachmann, make a jerking off motion, give her a President Skroob, and then just flip her off.
 
2012-07-30 01:55:24 PM  
Yes and I'm sure that, if plied with enough brandy and secluded far away from prying eyes and hidden microphones, you could get a Karl Rove or Dick Cheney to admit that all religion is horsesh*t, all the John Philip Sousa-braying patriotic crap is just a show, and America really is better off as a place where any idiot can spout his pointless opinions with no repercussions but his own hubris.

But then they'd have to admit it's wrong to use those exact tactics to rook millions of rubes everyday into voting against their own, personal economic interests. And the Roves and Cheneys of the world can't have that. They can't also admit the entire world isn't just as cynical as they are.

So you get what we see everyday. The NarrativeTM. Bold in its arrogance. Pure in its cynicism. Almost beautiful in its total ugliness.
 
2012-07-30 02:05:35 PM  

Garet Garrett: No, but your right to do business in Chicago and Boston are, apparently.


Several major Communist organizations have decried the alderman in Chicago and Boston's mayor for saying they would refuse to give Chick-fil-a licenses to open new stores, including Mother Jones and the ACLU. And if you want to just take a look at the Fark community, I seem to remember a very long thread within the last week where the lions' share of liberals here said they were going too far. We're far more principled than conservatives who are biatching about destroying the First Amendment with these actions but who, less than a year ago, were violently protesting Park51 and other Muslim mosques and openly suggested that cities should refuse to give them permits to build and/or occupy their facilities.
 
2012-07-30 02:16:10 PM  

Lord_Baull: True story: Jesus is never mentioned in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.


It sure is, right before the part about gays not being allowed to marry, and before the part about abortion being a sin, and not too far from the part about socialized medicine being prohibited.

/I know, but just going along with the joke.
 
2012-07-30 02:19:39 PM  
Kind of like how morals and ethics aren't, either.
 
2012-07-30 02:21:39 PM  

Benni K Rok: Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?

We all came from the One, and to the One we shall all return.

/That it?


Sinclair, Delenn, Sheridan forever!
 
2012-07-30 02:31:28 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Benni K Rok: Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?

We all came from the One, and to the One we shall all return.

/That it?

Sinclair, Delenn, Sheridan forever!


Funny, considering the Republican motto now seems to be "Will you follow me into fire, will you follow me into darkness, will you follow me into death?"
 
2012-07-30 03:05:17 PM  

DuncanMhor: For the ladies, kinder, kuche and kirche


Because:

thebentangle.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-30 05:09:45 PM  

Weaver95: One world, One God, One Faith. isn't that the GOP credo?


We do what we're told
We do what we're told
We do what we're told
Told to do

We do what we're told
We do what we're told
We do what we're told
Told to do

One doubt
One voice
One war
One truth
One dream
 
2012-07-30 05:10:26 PM  

DeltaPunch: "Signers of the letter include..."

So they found people to communicate the letter in sign language? I wonder if they're related to the signees of the letter...


-er_______someone who does something

-ee_______someone who has something done to them
 
2012-07-30 05:32:38 PM  

iawai: Actually, a signer is someone who signs something. A signee would be someone who has received a signature.


msrbley: As a general rule "ees" get and "ers" or "ors" give. Examples: payees and payers, mortgagees and mortgagors, grantees and grantors. A signee would be receiving a sign and a signer would giving the sign (or signing).


jigger: -er_______someone who does something

-ee_______someone who has something done to them



You guys keep insisting on this -- and I'm completely aware of the rule -- but I'm just saying it's not applicable in this case (never mind that the actual "signee" would be the document itself). Allow me to provide evidence:

TFD
sign·ee n.
One who has signed a document, such as a contract or petition.

http://Dictionary.com/
sign·ee [sahy-nee, sahy-nee] noun
a person who signs a document, register, etc.; signer; signatory:
a signee of the declaration of independence.

Oxford Dictionary:
signee /sʌɪˈniː/ noun
a person who has signed a contract or other official document.

OK?
 
2012-07-31 12:50:11 AM  
patriotism is tied to paying your taxes in order to help the country that helped you make it.

taking all your profits and hiding them overseas is not patriotic.
it's looting America and pissing on it as you leave.

nominating a person like that to run for the GOP
is nauseating.
 
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