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(New Jersey 101.5)   Cops issue safety guidelines for motorists on what to do if you're pulled over by a police imposter... because police imposters are actually quite common   (nj1015.com) divider line 73
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2012-07-30 07:52:56 AM
Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.
 
2012-07-30 08:34:21 AM
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2012-07-30 08:34:46 AM
I hope it is that delightful Mitt Romney that pulls me over. I have questions about car elevators that only he can answer.
 
2012-07-30 10:00:04 AM
I don't pull over until at least one other cop car has joined the pursuit. You can't be too safe.
 
2012-07-30 10:00:59 AM
This is why I just assume any vehicle trying to pull me over is a police imposter and open fire.
 
2012-07-30 10:02:37 AM
Or we could just make it illegal for unmarked vehicles to do pullovers. If the cops want to talk to you that much, it wouldn't kill the guy in the unmarked to have to call for a marked unit.
 
2012-07-30 10:03:17 AM

itsdan: Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.


Yeah but then it wouldn't be as easy to catch people going 6 miles over the limit and would lead to a loss of revenue.
 
2012-07-30 10:03:50 AM

itsdan: Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.


Not to mention the fact that, by that time, you've "led the officer on a chase," so don't expect anything other than a gun in your face with a twitchy, angry guy behind it.
 
2012-07-30 10:03:59 AM
Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.
 
2012-07-30 10:05:36 AM

itsdan: Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.


This!

At night they immediately light you up with the spot light so you can't see the car or the person walking up to you.

Just cracking the window and asking for ID after you've driven a couple miles to an exit is pretty much just saying "Please taser the fark out of me!"
 
2012-07-30 10:05:41 AM
A good rule of thumb is that if you get tased for not respecting the nice police officer's authority instantly it is a real cop. If on the other hand you come to in the hole from Silence of the Lambs then it is 70% likely not a real cop.
 
2012-07-30 10:05:48 AM
My brother bought a well-used white Caprice (cop motor, cop brakes et al.) when he was in high school and inevitably did this. He would park it at the end of our driveway or the edge of a parking lot and people thought he was a real cop and would hit their brakes. When I told people where I lived, they would ask if it was down the road from the cop. I responded, "That's not a cop, that my brother."

Of course, he did try to pull people over too. He's never told me how that worked out for him.

/csb
 
2012-07-30 10:06:01 AM

itsdan: Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.


Heh. We've had a thread or three of the years of cops freaking out on people who've done this, including one who was following the police suggestions at a time a fake cop was raping people.
 
2012-07-30 10:06:41 AM
eKonk: Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.

You masturbate to videos of grannies getting tazed, don't you?

There's been several blue light imposters in the Memphis area in the last 10 years. The most facepalm worthy one was a local ambulance company's supervisor, who was using his Paramedic badge and the red lights on his personal vehicle to pull over women and ask for their phone numbers.

He happened to pull over a cop on her way in to work that night. Hillarity, and a black eye, ensued.
 
2012-07-30 10:07:14 AM
Just pull over. By time you make some lazy, arrogant cop drive an extra 5 miles past the spot he likes to hide in and jagoff, he'll treat you as bad as a criminal would anyway.
 
2012-07-30 10:09:34 AM

cgraves67: My brother bought a well-used white Caprice (cop motor, cop brakes et al.) when he was in high school and inevitably did this. He would park it at the end of our driveway or the edge of a parking lot and people thought he was a real cop and would hit their brakes. When I told people where I lived, they would ask if it was down the road from the cop. I responded, "That's not a cop, that my brother."

Of course, he did try to pull people over too. He's never told me how that worked out for him.

/csb


Shame he wasn't shot doing so. Have very little tolerance for people who pull that shiat.
 
2012-07-30 10:10:59 AM

itsdan: Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.


And if you only crack the window open, you've now given the cop "probable cause" to search your vehicle because he can now claim you did it to hide the smell of pot.

And there's this little gem:

State Police Sgt. Brian Polite says often the officer will be in uniform.

So it doesn't really matter. If the cops and/or impostors want to fark with you, there is nothing you can do about it. Trying to do the right thing will only make matters worse, and when it goes bad you'll get a lecture on top of it.
 
2012-07-30 10:11:05 AM

ha-ha-guy: Or we could just make it illegal for unmarked vehicles to do pullovers. If the cops want to talk to you that much, it wouldn't kill the guy in the unmarked to have to call for a marked unit.


Yup.

If the cops weren't using unmarked units for traffic enforcement this wouldn't even be an issue.
 
2012-07-30 10:11:13 AM
If it is an impostor, pulling over, cracking the window and taking the time to call 911 is all the opening he needs to do whatever nefarious thing he wants to do to you, if he is competent.
 
2012-07-30 10:11:48 AM

eKonk: Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.


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2012-07-30 10:12:25 AM

SlothB77: If it is an impostor, pulling over, cracking the window and taking the time to call 911 is all the opening he needs to do whatever nefarious thing he wants to do to you, if he is competent.


Ironically, that's actually MORE likely if he's an imposter.
 
2012-07-30 10:14:35 AM
Well, since carrying a gun is illegal in NJ unless you are a cop, if you see a gun you know he's a cop since it's illegal that he not be a cop. All crimimnals follow the gun laws, right?

Besides, anyhing the imposter is going to do will be small time compared to the real cops in NJ. Although admittedly the Staties are pretty professional as a rule, the local cops generally make Chicago jealous (I'm lookng right at you Monroe Twsp) when it comes to unrestricted punishing violence on the law abiding, the blue wall, and ignoring the laws they enforce.
 
2012-07-30 10:15:10 AM

Cheron: A good rule of thumb is that if you get tased for not respecting the nice police officer's authority instantly it is a real cop. If on the other hand you come to in the hole from Silence of the Lambs then it is 70% likely not a real cop.


70% seems a bit high, especially for New Jersey given the thread from this weekend with the kidnapped guy.
 
2012-07-30 10:15:11 AM
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2012-07-30 10:18:14 AM
As multiple peoe have already pointed out there is a very simple way to solve this problem by not allowing unmarked cars to pull people over. But this is amerika land of the retard so simple solutions won't work.
 
2012-07-30 10:18:49 AM

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2012-07-30 10:20:31 AM

BronyMedic: eKonk: Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.

You masturbate to videos of grannies getting tazed, don't you?

There's been several blue light imposters in the Memphis area in the last 10 years. The most facepalm worthy one was a local ambulance company's supervisor, who was using his Paramedic badge and the red lights on his personal vehicle to pull over women and ask for their phone numbers.

He happened to pull over a cop on her way in to work that night. Hillarity, and a black eye, ensued.


No point mentioning the bats.
 
2012-07-30 10:21:34 AM

garandman1a: Well, since carrying a gun is illegal in NJ unless you are a cop, if you see a gun you know he's a cop since it's illegal that he not be a cop. All crimimnals follow the gun laws, right?

Besides, anyhing the imposter is going to do will be small time compared to the real cops in NJ. Although admittedly the Staties are pretty professional as a rule, the local cops generally make Chicago jealous (I'm lookng right at you Monroe Twsp) when it comes to unrestricted punishing violence on the law abiding, the blue wall, and ignoring the laws they enforce.



as if being in New Jersey wasn't punishment enough.
 
2012-07-30 10:23:04 AM
Why is this even an issue? Unmarked cars shouldn't be making routine traffic stops. You can buy those flashing red/blue lights to mount in your grill or dashboard on Amazon. If it doesn't have a set of lights on top and police written on the door I wouldn't stop, period.
 
2012-07-30 10:24:37 AM

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2012-07-30 10:24:48 AM

Bob16: As multiple peoe have already pointed out there is a very simple way to solve this problem by not allowing unmarked cars to pull people over. But this is amerika land of the retard so simple solutions won't work.


If slowing traffic down were the actual goal, they would use cars which would be obvious a mile away since most people drive reasonably when they see a cop around. But that cuts into revenue. The ONLY reason to have unmarked cars on the highway is to generate revenue from tickets. Those cars sure as hell aren't being used in stakeouts.
 
2012-07-30 10:25:04 AM

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2012-07-30 10:25:55 AM
The two angriest cops I came across have been Virginia State Troopers, when I handed over my VA DCJS PI license with my driver's license. One was angry because I made him "leave his hiding hole" and he wouldn't get to write a ticket. The other pulled me over for windshield tint on 495, and was angry because he wasn't writing a ticket and had to go another 2 miles to get to an exit to turn around.

The MD state police, on the other hand, asked me if I wanted to follow him across town (Salisbury) when I showed him a MD state police PI license. Granted, the PI license in MD is harder to get than a frickin' concealed carry permit.

But yeah, they get really angry when they realize they won't write a ticket.
 
2012-07-30 10:27:03 AM
I have driven all over the south. The worst cop I ever ran into was a NJ state pig during the 1990s who acted like the fact that I pulled over at a rest stop was very suspicious. The pig was the very stereotype of the kind of pig you never want to deal with. Looked like he was just out of high school. Crew cut. Ex military demeanour. A real asshole.
 
2012-07-30 10:31:37 AM

nickerj1: The two angriest cops I came across have been Virginia State Troopers, when I handed over my VA DCJS PI license with my driver's license. One was angry because I made him "leave his hiding hole" and he wouldn't get to write a ticket. The other pulled me over for windshield tint on 495, and was angry because he wasn't writing a ticket and had to go another 2 miles to get to an exit to turn around.

The MD state police, on the other hand, asked me if I wanted to follow him across town (Salisbury) when I showed him a MD state police PI license. Granted, the PI license in MD is harder to get than a frickin' concealed carry permit.

But yeah, they get really angry when they realize they won't write a ticket.


So you didn't get a ticket for something anyone else would have gotten a ticket for, because of what kind of drivers license you have? So the rules are different?
 
2012-07-30 10:34:30 AM

mr_bunny: I hope it is that delightful Mitt Romney that pulls me over. I have questions about car elevators that only he can answer.


I would ask him about off shore tax havens so I can cheat my country out of as much tax revenue as possible.

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2012-07-30 10:35:53 AM
Those sound like awesome suggestions if you are out to get your ass kicked by the police any time a blue light pops on in your mirror.

A much more sensible solution that would actually benefit the public good would be to remove unmarked cars from normal use. If only marked cars were allowed to perform traffic stops, this would be a non-issue.

We don't have time for sensible solutions, though... we have to make money!
 
2012-07-30 10:36:16 AM

Theaetetus: itsdan: Of course by the time you get to a well lit area, call 9-1-1, only crack the window, etc, you've probably annoyed the cop into doing anything less than the biggest ticket they can write, and possibly disobeyed an officer depending on how far you had to drive to get somewhere safe. How about police just agree not to pull people over in unmarked cars unless it's an emergency.

Not to mention the fact that, by that time, you've "led the officer on a chase," so don't expect anything other than a gun in your face with a twitchy, angry guy behind it.


No, not really. If you slow way down and put your hazards on, then let them slowly follow you while you call 911, describe where you are and that you want to confirm its a real cop pulling you over. 911 will get in touch with the cop behind you to confirm everything, then 911 will tell you its real and to pull over. I've had friends do this and the cops think its cool that your being careful.
 
2012-07-30 10:37:02 AM
Where I live, you don't even have to worry about getting Hijacked and killed by imposters... the Cops themselves, will be more than happy to do it to you...

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cops-hijacked-me-Porsche-drive r -20120514
 
2012-07-30 10:38:18 AM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Bob16: As multiple peoe have already pointed out there is a very simple way to solve this problem by not allowing unmarked cars to pull people over. But this is amerika land of the retard so simple solutions won't work.

If slowing traffic down were the actual goal, they would use cars which would be obvious a mile away since most people drive reasonably when they see a cop around. But that cuts into revenue. The ONLY reason to have unmarked cars on the highway is to generate revenue from tickets. Those cars sure as hell aren't being used in stakeouts.


I read an article in AutoWeek about twenty years ago about Swedish traffic patrol. They drove a garishly paint 911 and wore leather dusters and goggles. The point was that people just need to be reminded of the traffic laws some times.
 
2012-07-30 10:38:40 AM

BronyMedic: eKonk: Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. Your normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop-heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow.

You masturbate to videos of grannies getting tazed, don't you?


Are you so completely without humor that you don't even read books or watch movies?
 
2012-07-30 10:39:43 AM
oops sorry... clickity enabled now...
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2012-07-30 10:40:55 AM
While we are on the subject of the man, I have a question. It seems like no matter the situation, the man always find cause to ask "how much have you had to drink"? I recently hit a deer and when the man arrived he seemed more concerned that I might have been drinking. Never mind the fact I had just left work not 5 minutes earlier. WTF!

/end csb
//seriously do not trust the man
///Orwellian society...
 
2012-07-30 10:42:46 AM
Any cops here? Will I get a nightstick to the back of the head if I drive a little bit longer to get to a populated area or to a side road in the case of heavy traffic? What's the proper way to signal to a cop that you aren't running? I've head of cops opening up their mic to "PULL OVER" when he pulled someone over in an HOV lane and they insisted that he pull over to the LEFT with no shoulder.
 
2012-07-30 10:48:30 AM
If I were really concerned, couldn't I call 911 and ask for a dispatcher who could confirm the police car tag number or something? This shouldn't be that tough.
 
2012-07-30 10:49:12 AM

evilboyevil: Any cops here? Will I get a nightstick to the back of the head if I drive a little bit longer to get to a populated area or to a side road in the case of heavy traffic? What's the proper way to signal to a cop that you aren't running? I've head of cops opening up their mic to "PULL OVER" when he pulled someone over in an HOV lane and they insisted that he pull over to the LEFT with no shoulder.


If you want to signal to the police officer that your driving to a safe spot, you have to put your thumb up, your index finger straight out, and then curl the other three fingers into your palm. Hold this signal as you wave your hand out the window.
 
2012-07-30 10:51:57 AM
Ooo! Has anyone mentioned that Mitt Romney liked to impersonate an officer and pull people over?!?
 
2012-07-30 10:55:05 AM
Houston (HPD) has three three color schemes at the moment. blue/white, white w/white glow in the dark lettering and now the new black/white scheme rolled out last month.
 
2012-07-30 10:58:25 AM
Everyone who has lived in NJ has a cop story. The state cops are inflexible, but polite. The local cops suck in inverse proportion to the size of the city.
 
2012-07-30 11:02:09 AM
fireclown: If I were really concerned, couldn't I call 911 and ask for a dispatcher who could confirm the police car tag number or something? This shouldn't be that tough.

Yes, you "could". Depending on what mood the officer is in, he also "could" book you for evading and resisting, earning you at least a night in jail and an impound fee, even if the charges don't stick. Depending on where you work, you could lose your job over just the accusation. There have been articles posted to the front page about this kind of stuff in the past.

If you've ever watched "Cops", keep two things in mind: first, that these are the cherry-picked incidents showing cops at their best; second, imagine the response if any of those suspects had kept driving and chatting on a cell phone rather than pulling over. Just the adrenaline-soaked chatter coming from the driver's seat on that show should dissuade you from causing any more hassle for the heavily-armed man trying to pull you over than you absolutely have to.
 
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