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(Journal News)   NY to citizens: look, this is a vital $5.2 billion project and we can't just let you haters look into the $9.1 billion we're spending on this vital $16.6 billion project. Why don't you appreciate $24 billion investments?   (lohud.com) divider line 12
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2012-07-30 10:13:09 AM
Nice work Lo Hud, making your newspaper site look like some ranty rightwing blogger page. Clever marketing.
 
2012-07-30 10:19:50 AM

Generation_D: Nice work Lo Hud, making your newspaper site look like some ranty rightwing blogger page. Clever marketing.


Or maybe it's just that NY state government really is that sleazy, and there's a recent history of dodgy cost overruns on which they did an expose.

The Journal-News' editorial page in general is upscale center-left - more or less reflective of Westchester.
 
2012-07-30 10:41:54 AM
Jewish son asks his Jewish father, "Dad, can I have $50?"

His Dad responds, "$40? What do you need $30 for?"
 
2012-07-30 10:46:51 AM
The internet never forgets. So with a little effort, you can get back the old estimates.
 
2012-07-30 12:28:36 PM

Gulper Eel: Or maybe it's just that NY state government really is that sleazy


Dude, Rockland County has some of the most corrupt assholes in local government that I've ever seen. They might be worse than state officials.
 
2012-07-30 12:30:09 PM
If you think empowering state and local government is the answer just come on over to NY and let us prove you wrong. This state is a shiathole to live in.
 
2012-07-30 12:30:28 PM

Generation_D: Nice work Lo Hud, making your newspaper site look like some ranty rightwing blogger page. Clever marketing.


They've been frantically trying to get their paper into the 1990s since about 2005.
 
2012-07-30 12:38:54 PM
"A spokesman for DiNapoli, Brian Butry, said the change was necessary to keep costs down by limiting how much contract data staffers had to enter into the state's new financial system."

Because contract data staffers are the biggest source of cost overruns.
 
2012-07-30 12:40:26 PM
Huh. I expected a reverse-marijuana growing operation.
 
2012-07-30 12:53:24 PM

BarkingUnicorn: "A spokesman for DiNapoli, Brian Butry, said the change was necessary to keep costs down by limiting how much contract data staffers had to enter into the state's new financial system."

Because contract data staffers are the biggest source of cost overruns.


The whole roll out process for the new financial system has been a bit of a cluster fark. It went live in April so new transactions needed to be entered while old transactions migrated in and a myriad of issues corrected. I don't know that this wasn't a sleazy attempt to hide something, but if it didn't have an impact on the keeping the state functioning then it was most likely a very low priority.
 
2012-07-30 01:14:41 PM

BarkingUnicorn: "A spokesman for DiNapoli, Brian Butry, said the change was necessary to keep costs down by limiting how much contract data staffers had to enter into the state's new financial system."

Because contract data staffers are the biggest source of cost overruns.


Wait, wait. Are they saying they're going to keep costs down by limiting the amount of data staffers have to put into the system?
 
2012-07-30 02:14:07 PM
Just make all bids include the cost of insurance against defects and overruns. Company A thinks a $100 million will let them do the project successfully and with sufficient profit, and they sign a contract with Insurance Company B for $15 million as insurance against cost overruns or defects in construction that lead to lawsuits. Company A then puts in a $115 million bid. Insurance company B then keeps an eagle eye on them, because they hate paying for things.

The average bid would go up a bit, but I bet the actual amount paid would go down a bit, because there is someone in the loop who is actually concerned about skyrocketing costs, and will step in before they get out of control.
 
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